Build 1511 was *intended* by Microsoft to be a refresh, not an update.
We were warned of this by our Microsoft reps over a month ago. I gave them shit because I told them "what happened to Windows 10 being the last version of Windows you'll ever install?", they said Build 1511 would be.
As someone who did IT work in South Korea this year for couple of weeks, I never felt so defeated trying to upgrade 15 computers from XP to Windows 7. We basically had to give everyone admin rights just for them to do their job. Bank sites that had 11 (!) ActiveX plugins with 3-factor security (password, token, plus USB key with a cert) just for them to log in - and they routinely "update" their controls, which of course, require Admin rights.
The branch manager didn't understand at first why we were having so much difficulty. I had to explain to him that if we adhered by our security standards, we'd have to close the branch because there wasn't a single operation they did which would otherwise be allowed.
Re:That's one heck of a "long goodbye"
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Goodbye, VGA
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Almost all new corporate laptops now have display port (Lenovo, HP, Dell). All AMD-based corporate desktops now have DisplayPort as the "2nd monitor" on the onboard motherboard. (e.g. HP Compaq 6005)
However - it is ironic that "display panel" makers are "anxious", because if you look at most display makers' LCD offerings - maybe 1-2 models out of 15 or so will actually have a DisplayPort port - and you'll be paying a hefty premium for that. We have to buy adapters with every computer we buy for users who want dual monitor, because we're not going to pay an extra $150-$200 to get a monitor which has native DisplayPort.
You want a bargain basement monitor? They probably won't even have DVI. Many still are VGA-only to save on costs.
64-bit execution that works. XP-x64 has poor application compatibility compared with Vista-x64 and Win7-x64.
I call FUD. XP x64 is just 2003 x64, its the same kernel. 2003 x64 is rock solid, and so is XP x64.
Maybe you had a few things that didn't work, but it doesn't mean everyone did. It simply went by the wayside right away because Vista came out shortly after.
But in terms of speed and stability, nothing beats XP x64, in my opinion. I'd really challenge anyone to come up with a significant list of applications that work on Vista x64 that don't work on XP x64.
Although, looking back, there were pieces that were really sad, such as pillars on the wall in the middle of a huge cubicle farm that made me think of parking garages.
Longhorn (Windows Server 2008) has quite a few features that are actually useful to the business enterprise, unlike Vista.
* Citrix-like features in the core OS (seamless windows) * Server Core, which strips the GUI * Many Virtualization enhancements (including being able to run on Core) * More secure Domain Controllers for high-risk sites. * Network Access Protection, similar to Cisco's NAC.
Check it out. We'll be using Windows Server 2008 long before we roll out Vista in any fashion.
The Cisco VPN client for Vista (beta), if it is installed, will cause this blue screen condition to occur while resuming from sleep.
I have about 6 machines as well that have or had been running Vista as well, and only the ones with the Cisco client ever had problems resuming from sleep.
I keep VM versions of earlier MS operating systems and OSs at different patch levels (eg XP/XP S1/XP SP2) for testing purposes when I release software. I'm glad to see the Microsoft does not want small developers to test for compatibility on home versions of Vista.
While it hasn't been updated to reflect Vista, an MSDN subscription allows you to use all Microsoft Operating Systems for testing purposes -- including home editions.
For $700, you can use every Microsoft Operating system for testing for a year. May not be a bargain, but who would actually want to purchase Windows 98, ME, 2000, XP, 2003 etc just to test web pages?
It won't be right for everyone, but the option is there - you're not being painted into a corner.
First, they gutted out the Monad shell and WinFS, two features that would have possibly made me wait for Vista and get a PC instead of switching to a Mac.
Monad became Windows PowerShell, and is currently at RC2. I wouldn't be surprised if it releases right around the Vista launch date, even if it doesn't come with it. It definitely will be a free download though.
We'll be interested in hearing more about your opinion when you graduate and get a job in enterprise-level IT.
Nice try, but I've been here in the corporate sector for years. The company I work for happens to use Windows as a platform. Ironically, it will be some time before we use Vista though, since our fleet isn't up to spec and it doesn't really buy us anything at this time.
Longhorn, however, will go in fairly quickly in some areas, due to the "free" Citrix-like improvements (read about that feature here
I dont have time to be a full beta tester, so getting paid to beta test won't be an option for me. I do have some hardware that I can test stuff on (whether it be vista or the latest linux distro) because that stuff is fun to me, and I always like to learn about new technology.
If you haven't used it yourself, don't say that the release candidate is beta quality - try it yourself and post your observations.
While I'm sure I'll get some fairly smart-ass responses to this post, most of you trashing Vista probably haven't even touched it. Sure, some of the comments are funny, but most of its mindless trolling. Its more of contest for a "+1 Funny" than anything else.
For those of you who have tried it (at least since RC1, everything before that was junk), and don't like it, then its not for you. Stick with whatever you have and move along. Your decision to not purchase Microsoft software will send a message.
For those of you haven't, give RC2 a try, its free - at least for about 8-9 months or whatever. You can then judge all its flaws and gasp, maybe even give feedback to Microsoft so that maybe they can do something about it. Just make sure you are constructive rather than "get rid of DRM" which probably won't accomplish much of anything.
I have an MCE machine that I use as a gaming machine downstairs in my basement, and did not want to keep the PC in the living room. I don't use the TV tuners (I have an HD DirectTivo) so all the MCE box does is stream music and movies to my TV. I had my movies encoded to the Nero Digital format here which worked well. I could even get those files to play in MCE (although seeking did not work at all, much less chapter seeks) so I generally used the Nero player.
I was hoping I could do something, at least, with these files, on the XBOX 360. Well, needless to say, they aren't supported (it doesn't work) and pretty much the only thing I could get to work that I had was an WMV file. Heck, even a DVD, ripped to the hard drive, which worked in MCE, does NOT work on the XBOX360. Gave a message like "sorry, you can't do this over a remote desktop connection". Looks like its using the RDP protocol to stream sound and video.
Well, after some figiting, I got a movie encoded to WMV and it worked fine, once I mucked with the aspect ratio. Too bad the encoder is slow as heck, Nero's was much faster. Saw some interlacing problems with the final copy as well, but thats probably just pebkac.
Being in Fargo, he's only 5 1/2 hours from Rochester, MN, where the Mayo Clinic is. I'm not sure if its warranted, but I've known a few people who have gone there under similar circumstances when all else has failed.
I manage over 4000+ desktops that exclusively run IE. And believe me, we have our share of stupid users.
Don't give them administrative priveleges.
We've never had one case of spyware except when a user had admin rights to their workstation. The only cases I've seen were users that somehow convinced the helpdesk that they "needed" admin rights for something, or, ironically enough, a developer, who all have access to their desktops.
I'd venture to say that most non-tech savvy computers have some sort of spyware/adware installed. Why do these people get it?
1) They accidently click on something they didn't mean to, because of a popup. It goes downhill from there, since many spyware programs act like virii and have some friends join the fray.
2) Users that hit porn sites. These are the black hole of spyware, and while I've told them "stop looking at the porn and you wont get this crap", and they say they don't, yet I see their Internet Explorer history and its just filled with porn urls.
While my parents are largely #1, I've switched them to firefox and its gone down dramatically. I still catch them using IE for things like OWA and a few other IE-sites (and they will re-use the browser window to do other things).
I simply got tired of deal with them calling me about "CoolWebSearch" and tons of other junk that pisses me off.
I use Internet Explorer *and* firefox to browse the web, and I never get *any* spyware - I just know what to look out for. I'd say at least 80% of the people out there don't.
It also helps if you surf the web as a non-priveldged account - those are, for the most part, invulnerable to spyware. Just as none of you would use any web browser on linux as root -
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Re:Throbbing "N" in the movies
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Actually the "Throbbing N" was in version.9 and below. With 1.0, they went to the regular N with a globe type logo.
.9 was a slick browser at the time; Mosaic was still at the top though with 2.3 if I remember.
You are only emphasizing my point. Notice how RH hasn't had the commercial success until 6.0, where they decided to go with a "friendly" Enlightenment/KDE UI.
Do you think the average user can handle different Window Managers every time a revision of the OS comes out? Most of the casual users (who there aren't many of yet) will be annoyed that they have to relearn their setup, and possibly edit configs to their hearts content. The other users, who are bored with 95/98/NT, will love the fact that they can learn something new.
It's the casual users that will never dive into linux, just because 95/98 "works" for them, and the user interface is somewhat consistent.
Good ridance to them? The software designers might be tired of hand-holding users, but it's something they need to do in order for their product to succeed commercially. If you are the type to simply compile something, tar.gz it and not even write a man page, your software probably won't reach commercial success.
Half of the problem with open source software is that there is no set standard for dumb users to follow. If you have to many options with an idea, everyone figures out their own way of doing it, and the ones who do not have the patience to devise one (dumb users) will give up and go back to Windows/Mac.
Does Windows 98 prompt if you want to use Litestep instead of Explorer? No. And Microsoft fell on their face when they offered Active Crashtop, which offered a 1-click versus a 2-click interface. People were horrified with that dramatic change in UI. Imagine the next release of RedHat going to a completely different user interface. Power users don't care, because most of them do an expert/custom install anyways.
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Get 5G Mi-Fi unlimited and cable will be in for a wild ride. Competition would be good.
Build 1511 was *intended* by Microsoft to be a refresh, not an update.
We were warned of this by our Microsoft reps over a month ago. I gave them shit because I told them "what happened to Windows 10 being the last version of Windows you'll ever install?", they said Build 1511 would be.
I'll believe it when I (don't) see it.
As someone who did IT work in South Korea this year for couple of weeks, I never felt so defeated trying to upgrade 15 computers from XP to Windows 7. We basically had to give everyone admin rights just for them to do their job. Bank sites that had 11 (!) ActiveX plugins with 3-factor security (password, token, plus USB key with a cert) just for them to log in - and they routinely "update" their controls, which of course, require Admin rights.
The branch manager didn't understand at first why we were having so much difficulty. I had to explain to him that if we adhered by our security standards, we'd have to close the branch because there wasn't a single operation they did which would otherwise be allowed.
Almost all new corporate laptops now have display port (Lenovo, HP, Dell). All AMD-based corporate desktops now have DisplayPort as the "2nd monitor" on the onboard motherboard. (e.g. HP Compaq 6005)
However - it is ironic that "display panel" makers are "anxious", because if you look at most display makers' LCD offerings - maybe 1-2 models out of 15 or so will actually have a DisplayPort port - and you'll be paying a hefty premium for that. We have to buy adapters with every computer we buy for users who want dual monitor, because we're not going to pay an extra $150-$200 to get a monitor which has native DisplayPort.
You want a bargain basement monitor? They probably won't even have DVI. Many still are VGA-only to save on costs.
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64-bit execution that works. XP-x64 has poor application compatibility compared with Vista-x64 and Win7-x64.
I call FUD. XP x64 is just 2003 x64, its the same kernel. 2003 x64 is rock solid, and so is XP x64.
Maybe you had a few things that didn't work, but it doesn't mean everyone did. It simply went by the wayside right away because Vista came out shortly after.
But in terms of speed and stability, nothing beats XP x64, in my opinion. I'd really challenge anyone to come up with a significant list of applications that work on Vista x64 that don't work on XP x64.
Conan O'Brien's visit to Intel HQ last year was absolutely hilarious.
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070506/conan-intel-video/
Although, looking back, there were pieces that were really sad, such as pillars on the wall in the middle of a huge cubicle farm that made me think of parking garages.
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Longhorn (Windows Server 2008) has quite a few features that are actually useful to the business enterprise, unlike Vista.
* Citrix-like features in the core OS (seamless windows)
* Server Core, which strips the GUI
* Many Virtualization enhancements (including being able to run on Core)
* More secure Domain Controllers for high-risk sites.
* Network Access Protection, similar to Cisco's NAC.
Check it out. We'll be using Windows Server 2008 long before we roll out Vista in any fashion.
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What will be after that, Gary Gnu?
"No G'news Is Good G'news!"
The Cisco VPN client for Vista (beta), if it is installed, will cause this blue screen condition to occur while resuming from sleep.
I have about 6 machines as well that have or had been running Vista as well, and only the ones with the Cisco client ever had problems resuming from sleep.
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MSDN Subscriptions
While it hasn't been updated to reflect Vista, an MSDN subscription allows you to use all Microsoft Operating Systems for testing purposes -- including home editions.
MSDN OS Subscription link
For $700, you can use every Microsoft Operating system for testing for a year. May not be a bargain, but who would actually want to purchase Windows 98, ME, 2000, XP, 2003 etc just to test web pages?
It won't be right for everyone, but the option is there - you're not being painted into a corner.
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Windows PowerShell
Monad became Windows PowerShell, and is currently at RC2. I wouldn't be surprised if it releases right around the Vista launch date, even if it doesn't come with it. It definitely will be a free download though.
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Nice try, but I've been here in the corporate sector for years. The company I work for happens to use Windows as a platform. Ironically, it will be some time before we use Vista though, since our fleet isn't up to spec and it doesn't really buy us anything at this time.
Longhorn, however, will go in fairly quickly in some areas, due to the "free" Citrix-like improvements (read about that feature here
I dont have time to be a full beta tester, so getting paid to beta test won't be an option for me. I do have some hardware that I can test stuff on (whether it be vista or the latest linux distro) because that stuff is fun to me, and I always like to learn about new technology.
If you haven't used it yourself, don't say that the release candidate is beta quality - try it yourself and post your observations.
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While I'm sure I'll get some fairly smart-ass responses to this post, most of you trashing Vista probably haven't even touched it. Sure, some of the comments are funny, but most of its mindless trolling. Its more of contest for a "+1 Funny" than anything else.
For those of you who have tried it (at least since RC1, everything before that was junk), and don't like it, then its not for you. Stick with whatever you have and move along. Your decision to not purchase Microsoft software will send a message.
For those of you haven't, give RC2 a try, its free - at least for about 8-9 months or whatever. You can then judge all its flaws and gasp, maybe even give feedback to Microsoft so that maybe they can do something about it. Just make sure you are constructive rather than "get rid of DRM" which probably won't accomplish much of anything.
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They are probably using a synchronous caching device to "speed" up your service. Thats just a guess though :)
I have an MCE machine that I use as a gaming machine downstairs in my basement, and did not want to keep the PC in the living room. I don't use the TV tuners (I have an HD DirectTivo) so all the MCE box does is stream music and movies to my TV. I had my movies encoded to the Nero Digital format here which worked well. I could even get those files to play in MCE (although seeking did not work at all, much less chapter seeks) so I generally used the Nero player.
I was hoping I could do something, at least, with these files, on the XBOX 360. Well, needless to say, they aren't supported (it doesn't work) and pretty much the only thing I could get to work that I had was an WMV file. Heck, even a DVD, ripped to the hard drive, which worked in MCE, does NOT work on the XBOX360. Gave a message like "sorry, you can't do this over a remote desktop connection". Looks like its using the RDP protocol to stream sound and video.
Well, after some figiting, I got a movie encoded to WMV and it worked fine, once I mucked with the aspect ratio. Too bad the encoder is slow as heck, Nero's was much faster. Saw some interlacing problems with the final copy as well, but thats probably just pebkac.
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Being in Fargo, he's only 5 1/2 hours from Rochester, MN, where the Mayo Clinic is. I'm not sure if its warranted, but I've known a few people who have gone there under similar circumstances when all else has failed.
I manage over 4000+ desktops that exclusively run IE. And believe me, we have our share of stupid users.
Don't give them administrative priveleges.
We've never had one case of spyware except when a user had admin rights to their workstation. The only cases I've seen were users that somehow convinced the helpdesk that they "needed" admin rights for something, or, ironically enough, a developer, who all have access to their desktops.
agressiv
I'd venture to say that most non-tech savvy computers have some sort of spyware/adware installed. Why do these people get it?
1) They accidently click on something they didn't mean to, because of a popup. It goes downhill from there, since many spyware programs act like virii and have some friends join the fray.
2) Users that hit porn sites. These are the black hole of spyware, and while I've told them "stop looking at the porn and you wont get this crap", and they say they don't, yet I see their Internet Explorer history and its just filled with porn urls.
While my parents are largely #1, I've switched them to firefox and its gone down dramatically. I still catch them using IE for things like OWA and a few other IE-sites (and they will re-use the browser window to do other things).
I simply got tired of deal with them calling me about "CoolWebSearch" and tons of other junk that pisses me off.
I use Internet Explorer *and* firefox to browse the web, and I never get *any* spyware - I just know what to look out for. I'd say at least 80% of the people out there don't.
It also helps if you surf the web as a non-priveldged account - those are, for the most part, invulnerable to spyware. Just as none of you would use any web browser on linux as root -
agressiv
Do you think the average user can handle different Window Managers every time a revision of the OS comes out? Most of the casual users (who there aren't many of yet) will be annoyed that they have to relearn their setup, and possibly edit configs to their hearts content. The other users, who are bored with 95/98/NT, will love the fact that they can learn something new.
It's the casual users that will never dive into linux, just because 95/98 "works" for them, and the user interface is somewhat consistent.
The dumb users are usually the first to admit that they are dumb. Why do you think books such as "XYZ for dummies" sells so well?
Good ridance to them? The software designers might be tired of hand-holding users, but it's something they need to do in order for their product to succeed commercially. If you are the type to simply compile something, tar.gz it and not even write a man page, your software probably won't reach commercial success.
Does Windows 98 prompt if you want to use Litestep instead of Explorer? No. And Microsoft fell on their face when they offered Active Crashtop, which offered a 1-click versus a 2-click interface. People were horrified with that dramatic change in UI. Imagine the next release of RedHat going to a completely different user interface. Power users don't care, because most of them do an expert/custom install anyways.