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Apple Finally Updates the iMac With Significantly More Powerful CPU and GPU Options (arstechnica.com)
Today, Apple will finally begin taking orders for newly refreshed 21- and 27-inch iMacs. The new versions don't change the basic design or add major new features, but they offer substantially faster configuration options for the CPU and GPU. From a report: The 21.5-inch iMac now has a 6-core, eighth-generation Intel CPU option -- up from a maximum of four cores before. The 27-inch now has six cores as the standard configuration, with an optional upgrade to a 3.6GHz, 9th-gen, 8-core Intel Core i9 CPU that Apple claims will double performance over the previous 27-inch iMac. The base 27-inch model has a 3GHz 6-core Intel Core i5 CPU, with intermediate configurations at 3.1GHz and 3.7GHz (both Core i5). The big news is arguably that both sizes now offer high-end, workstation-class Vega-graphics options for the first time. Apple added a similar upgrade option to the 15-inch MacBook Pro late last year. In this case, the 21.6-inch iMac has an option for the 20-compute-unit version of Vega with 4GB of HBM2 video memory. That's the same as the top-end 15-inch MacBook Pro option.
The 27-inch iMac can now be configured with the Radeon Pro Vega 48 with 8GB of HBM2. For reference, the much pricier iMac Pro has Vega 56 and Vega 64 options. Apple claims the Vega 48 will net a 50-percent performance improvement over the Radeon Pro 580, the previous top configuration. Speaking of the previous top configuration, the non-Vega GPU options are the same as what was available yesterday. The only difference is that they now have an "X" affixed to the numbers in their names, per AMD branding conventions -- i.e., Radeon Pro 580X instead of 580. RAM options are the same in terms of volume (up to 32GB for the 21.5-inch and 64GB for the 27-inch), but the DDR4 RAM is slightly faster now, at 2666MHz.
The 27-inch iMac can now be configured with the Radeon Pro Vega 48 with 8GB of HBM2. For reference, the much pricier iMac Pro has Vega 56 and Vega 64 options. Apple claims the Vega 48 will net a 50-percent performance improvement over the Radeon Pro 580, the previous top configuration. Speaking of the previous top configuration, the non-Vega GPU options are the same as what was available yesterday. The only difference is that they now have an "X" affixed to the numbers in their names, per AMD branding conventions -- i.e., Radeon Pro 580X instead of 580. RAM options are the same in terms of volume (up to 32GB for the 21.5-inch and 64GB for the 27-inch), but the DDR4 RAM is slightly faster now, at 2666MHz.
SATA is a good sign for the next mac pro.
As they don't seem to be moving forced T2 or higher locked pci-e storage.
Much to the detriment of Apple's pro customers.
If Apple's T2 chip still disallows Linux from using the onboard SSD, that is a deal breaker.
It doesn't. Calm it on down.
Beware of the Leopard.
for a decent 256 GB from newegg without bulk pricing I expect an SSD. I at least expect a 7200 RPM hard disk. A 5400 RPM drive will hamstring the entire computer, OSX or not. It'll lead to a poor user experience.
This tells me Apple is confident enough in their brand to sell substandard merchandise for a premium.
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5400rpm's no doubt not only soldered in place... but there's evidence that it's booby-trapped with explosives that'll take your fingers off, and there are rumors of a hidden glass capsule with "gay pheromones" in it that, when broken, will cause you to become part of Tim Cook's" zombie" (after a fashion) army.
with AMD? One of the things I've read consistently is AMD does better in productivity apps that use the GPU. As near as anyone can tell the Radeon VII is just their high end professional GPU repackaged for gaming (which explains the stupidly large 16 GB of expensive ram).
As for stability, AMD really has got their act together, and the GPU power draw is just fine at idle. Nvidia wins out there once the GPU is under load, but if I'm loading my GPU I'm probably plugged in.
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You need to recheck because you can turn off the protections that disallow using Linux, even on the older iMac Pro (which has the T2).
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What's the price difference between a 240Gb SSD and whatever it is Apple's shoving in this thing? For reference, the street price of a 240Gb SSD is about $30. Is 240Gb too small for an entry level computer? Well, street price for half a terabyte is $70.
Looking at prices, I think we've reached the point where "enough storage" is available in both SSD and spinning disk form for the same minimum amount of money. The price per GB is higher with SSD, but the floor is much, much, lower, which means the cross-over point where SSD and magnetic is now at a level where you're talking usable amounts of storage. For that reason, there's no reason to exclude SSD from an entry level system unless you're trying to punish the customer for buying cheap hardware.
At this stage magnetic discs are what cheapskates like me use to build a 1Tb i5 system for $400, not what a premium computer company should be using in its $1,000 personal computers. The only other legitimate use of them is for building external storage systems you'd make back-ups to, be they USB or NASes.
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In a way, I find a 5400 RPM HDD almost insulting. I can see something like that in a sub-$300 laptop, but for a computer that costs four digits minimum, that is inexcusable. The only good thing is that maybe the HDD can be replaced by a SATA SSD, allowing for some expansion.
As secondary storage, maybe it would be usable. It would be interesting to put in two 3.5" drives and have them run RAID 1 just for Time Machine backups, ensuring that the SSD is well backed up. Bonus points if there is OS protection, so ransomware can't have a field day with the TM drives.
The Mac mini is the budget computer and all models come with an SSD drive.
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Can't see if you can upgrade the RAM on this model.
Based on experience, I would max out the CPU and GPU in the configuration, go for a 512GB or 1TB SSD, ditch FusionDrive.
If the RAM is upgradeable then save on that and expand that later.
I am running a late 2013 iMac and I can still use it for video editing, even a bit of 4K. I have added an external RAID0 for editing (2x4tb 7200rpm, partitioned with the fastest part of spindle for editing) and a 1tb SSD for smaller projects.
I wanted to go all SSD but I having trouble finding an external enclosure that supports TRIM which I "need" as editing videos don't seem to play well with traditional SSD usage. Since I only have the original Thunderbolt specs, the choices are limited.
But as I had said before, FCPX is really the only thing that keeps me on the Mac(ok, I like the OS too) so perhaps I should have a go at a Hackintosh again, or learn DaVinci Resolve already. I guess I will stay on my old iMac until it gives up the ghost and makes the decision then. :)
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I'm pretty sure that Apple uses only NVMe type drives. Even among the SATA SSDs, Kingston is cheap junk. An accurate price comparison is maybe $50 for a quality baseline, but the read/write speeds are way lower than you would get in NVMe, so that's not even a fair comparison.
Still, $200 should get you close to 1TB of high performance NVMe in any brand (ok, so the 970 EVO is over $200).
A SSD doesn't only improve boot time.
The casual iMac user would be much better off with a slower CPU but a SSD.