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As Costs Skyrocket, More US Cities Stop Recycling (nytimes.com)

Recycling, for decades an almost reflexive effort by American households and businesses to reduce waste and help the environment, is collapsing in many parts of the country [Editor's note: the link may be paywalled; syndicated source]. From a report: Philadelphia is now burning about half of its 1.5 million residents' recycling material in an incinerator that converts waste to energy. In Memphis, the international airport still has recycling bins around the terminals, but every collected can, bottle and newspaper is sent to a landfill. And last month, officials in the central Florida city of Deltona faced the reality that, despite their best efforts to recycle, their curbside program was not working and suspended it. Those are just three of the hundreds of towns and cities across the country that have canceled recycling programs, limited the types of material they accepted or agreed to huge price increases.

"We are in a crisis moment in the recycling movement right now," said Fiona Ma, the treasurer of California, where recycling costs have increased in some cities. Prompting this nationwide reckoning is China, which until January 2018 had been a big buyer of recyclable material collected in the United States. That stopped when Chinese officials determined that too much trash was mixed in with recyclable materials like cardboard and certain plastics. After that, Thailand and India started to accept more imported scrap, but even they are imposing new restrictions. The turmoil in the global scrap markets began affecting American communities last year, and the problems have only deepened.

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  1. The good thing is, recycling is getting more real by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In a way this shift is good news, because it was all to easy before to throw a ton of crap into the recycling bin and pretend a problem was handled.

    We are just now getting to a realistic point where we can truly decide what it makes sense to recycle, and what is really trash. Then we can make better choices about what things are made of, or what packaging they have. Like maybe paper products are not so bad, as we see with the rise of things like paper straws... remember how plastic used to be preferred over paper, and there was a big shift to move to plastic bags?

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  2. Re: Recycling is a dead end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, it's a very profitable industry. The problem in the US is that people want the benefits without putting in the work.

    No one takes the time to look at the number of the plastic before throwing it into the but. No one wants to read the instructions from the rate management company. Most people don't even realize you cannot throw contaminated materials into the recycling bin.

    What makes recycling expensive in the US is the amount of effort required to clean up the material being recycled. It's a manual process, and very expensive.

    What's killing recycling in the US is laziness!

  3. the 1970s meet the new reality by Virtucon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Recycling is good, it's good conservation and makes good economic sense. What went wrong is single stream and not investing in the technology. We need to recycle where we can and stop just burning it or burying it, it's not that hard.

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    1. Re:the 1970s meet the new reality by smoot123 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Recycling...makes good economic sense.

      According to TFA, apparently not. Did you even read the headline?

    2. Re:the 1970s meet the new reality by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What went wrong was the gigantic push by environmentalists in the 1980's claiming that paper bags were bad, followed by the complaints that reprocessing(cleaning) glass bottles of all stripes were bad - because phosphate based cleaners were the primary source being used. But then saying how "environmentally friendly" it was to use plastics because the materials were already there, and it took less energy to make plastic bottles, packaging and so-on. And how phosphate based cleaners wouldn't end up in the lakes and rivers. 30 years later we're back at square one because what was quite environmentally friendly had bad optics at the time, and companies simply rolled over rather than deal with the environmentalist backlash of the period.

      Sit back, enjoy the shitshow. Hell there's millions of acres of trees in the US and Canada damaged by pine beetles, that are perfect to be processed into well all kinds of materials...but those environmental regulations of the same period hamper clearcutting dead forests, even if the company is willing to stagger non-monculture trees(something that helped cause this problem in the first place).

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  4. No such thing as a free lunch by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's the old story where the first world takes advantage of the third world while claiming to be doing the right thing.

    We were, for all practical intents and purposes, taking advantage of China and sending them what amounted to be mostly garbage. At the time, their companies could pay people a pittance to sort through it - and, If it wasn't recyclable, they ended up tossing it into their own garbage dumps. Eventually as China has developed, they got to the point where they didn't want everyone else's trash.

    Now, the real dilemma is that while many people may want to recycle in theory, they don't want to pay the true cost of recycling. There is significant processing to be done if we want it to actually work, but we seem to think it should be no more expensive than just tossing stuff into the landfill - but turns out there's no such thing as a free lunch.

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    1. Re:No such thing as a free lunch by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 3, Insightful

      while many people may want to recycle in theory, they don't want to pay the true cost of recycling.

      The easiest way to identify real recycling (as opposed to bullshit) is when the net "true cost" is negative.

      People are willing to literally pay me for my aluminum cans. Or I can be a "nice guy" and give them to my city, and they can take the cans to the people who pay them.

      But if no one is willing to pay for your trash, then there's a good chance that it's probably really trash (not effectively recyclable).

      There is significant processing to be done if we want it to actually work, but we seem to think it should be no more expensive than just tossing stuff into the landfill

      If the processing costs more than tossing it into the landfill, it doesn't "actually work." You should toss it into a landfill, because the processing is just another form of energy waste or pollution which didn't save anyone money compared to using raw materials.

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    2. Re:No such thing as a free lunch by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If the plastic can only be recycled at a financial loss, that suggests to me that you had even more downsides caused by recycling it, than you eliminated. It might be additional pollution caused by the recycling process, or higher energy requirements (which also may come with additional pollution) or something else I haven't thought of. What, exactly, caused the recycling to be more expensive than using raw materials? That will tell you what price you paid that you measured as being worse than the consequences of tossing it into a landfill.

      (A toxic piece of plastic sitting around for a thousand years might sound bad, but it's not as bad as two toxic pieces of plastic sitting around for two thousand years.)

      The only way this doesn't add up, would be if you're subsidizing something. If you're undercharging for the landfill (e.g. you consider the plastic sitting there to be very bad (i.e. high cost) but then you also let people dump there for "free" or nearly so, much less than what you consider to be the cost) then subsidizing the pollution can appear to make the recycling not pay. If that's what's going on, well, don't do that.

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  5. Re: Recycling is a dead end by slinches · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the cost of cleaning and separating recyclables at the waste processing facility is too high to make it worthwhile, then the same is true of pre-sorted and washed recyclables. It just pushes that cost to the individual waste stream sources, which is great for recycling companies, but not so great for anyone else.

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  6. Re: Recycling is a dead end by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, it's a very profitable industry.

    Recycling is indeed profitable, but not for all materials. Here is a complete exhaustive list of the materials that can be recycled economically:

    1. Aluminum

    No one takes the time to look at the number of the plastic before throwing it into the but.

    They do not, and they are not going to in the future either. If we are going to make recycling work, it can not be based on people being anonymously altruistic, and attentive to details of cleaning and sorting their trash. It is NOT going to happen.

    The answer is automation. We need intelligent trash-sorting robots.

  7. Re: Recycling is a dead end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Projecting much?

    My recycler flat out sent a letter their recycling program was going up because China wasnâ(TM)t buying it/paying as much.

    Sorting isnâ(TM)t a challenge. Itâ(TM)s just not as profitable so now itâ(TM)s being tossed.

  8. Re:I only recycle to get my money back by fred6666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the state ever gets rid of these ridiculous deposit prices, you can pretty much kiss recycling goodbye.

    And you just explained why they put this fee structure to begin with.

  9. Re:Recycling mostly a scam by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, a less cynical statement (and one I've heard from folks in similar positions) is that what specific materials are economical to recycle varies over time, and it's not practical to ask the general population to continually change what they do (or do not) put in the recycle bin. It makes more sense to have all recyclable materials collected into a separate stream, even if some percentage of them end up in the landfill.

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  10. The end of disposable plastic by DogDude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At some point, the human race is going to have to quit making disposable plastic. We are literally poisoning ourselves with our own waste. I don't think that most people take kindly to being told that they're going to have to adjust their quality of life (or at least convenience) downwards, but that's what it's going to take in order for the human race to survive on Earth in the not too distant future.

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  11. Too rich to recycle or too inefficient? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have always wondered what the affluence to efficiency ratio is for a country. Has the USA become so rich it can't do basic things like recycle anymore?
    The USA has lots of resources in its country, let it use them as fast as it can and burn as brightly as it can. In the future the world will be a much more scares place and then it can buy everything it needs.

    I don't recycle for just me. I recycle for my great-grandchildren, and yours.

  12. Re:Gave up. by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... until the day I watched the garbage man (He was, so not sexist.)

    OH man..what I'm sad about is, that you felt that you actually had to apologize for using the common time honored term "garbage man".

    Wow...we're hitting new lows on PC-ness, aren't we.

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  13. Re:I only recycle to get my money back by DogDude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Processes that don't make money are "failures"? Like the military?

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  14. Re:Part of a trade negotiation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That ignores a fundamental problem in the US. The EPA has been stonewalling heavy industry since Obama started the war on coal. Permits are almost impossible to achieve, particularly emissions permits. It would make a shit ton of sense to separate with a pair of magnets (steel and aluminum), float out the plastic and paper, and burn those for energy, landfill the heavies. That would be a huge first step. There are techniques to automatically sort plastics, but they're expensive and probably not profitable.

    However, that doesn't achieve the green objective of punishing the westerners, isn't possible due to the obstructionist regulators, and makes way too much sense for the Republicans to fund it, so it's DOA.

  15. Re: Recycling is a dead end by bhcompy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or just force companies to stop using plastic as a disposable product. Glass and paper are not a problem

  16. Re: Recycling is a dead end by slinches · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not exactly. You assume that "cleaning up" ends up as a net benefit, which isn't necessarily true. If it costs more to clean up recycling than the end product is worth, then you're ultimately spending more in other limited resources (energy, water, labor, etc.) to recycle it than you are saving. It can end up being a net negative, both economically and ecologically. Instead, we would be better off working to reduce the total amount of waste by making one-time use packaging more efficient and switching to durable reusable packaging where possible.

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  17. Re: Recycling is a dead end by Lije+Baley · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What ever happened to water conservation anyway? Am I still supposed to suffer with low flow bathroom fixtures while rinsing all my recyclables?

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  18. Re: Recycling is a dead end by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Say...whaaaat??!! Let me understand this correctly. Are you saying that smelting ORE is CHEAPER than melting down scrap aluminum? There must be some economic dynamics here that has nothing to do with energy savings.

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