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As Costs Skyrocket, More US Cities Stop Recycling (nytimes.com)

Recycling, for decades an almost reflexive effort by American households and businesses to reduce waste and help the environment, is collapsing in many parts of the country [Editor's note: the link may be paywalled; syndicated source]. From a report: Philadelphia is now burning about half of its 1.5 million residents' recycling material in an incinerator that converts waste to energy. In Memphis, the international airport still has recycling bins around the terminals, but every collected can, bottle and newspaper is sent to a landfill. And last month, officials in the central Florida city of Deltona faced the reality that, despite their best efforts to recycle, their curbside program was not working and suspended it. Those are just three of the hundreds of towns and cities across the country that have canceled recycling programs, limited the types of material they accepted or agreed to huge price increases.

"We are in a crisis moment in the recycling movement right now," said Fiona Ma, the treasurer of California, where recycling costs have increased in some cities. Prompting this nationwide reckoning is China, which until January 2018 had been a big buyer of recyclable material collected in the United States. That stopped when Chinese officials determined that too much trash was mixed in with recyclable materials like cardboard and certain plastics. After that, Thailand and India started to accept more imported scrap, but even they are imposing new restrictions. The turmoil in the global scrap markets began affecting American communities last year, and the problems have only deepened.

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  1. Gave up. by Major_Disorder · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was an avid recycler, until the day I watched the garbage man (He was, so not sexist.) throw my carefully sorted recyclables into the truck right next to all the trash. Then push the compact button.

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    1. Re:Gave up. by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is Slashdot. The proper title is "Sanitation Engineer." :-)

  2. The good thing is, recycling is getting more real by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In a way this shift is good news, because it was all to easy before to throw a ton of crap into the recycling bin and pretend a problem was handled.

    We are just now getting to a realistic point where we can truly decide what it makes sense to recycle, and what is really trash. Then we can make better choices about what things are made of, or what packaging they have. Like maybe paper products are not so bad, as we see with the rise of things like paper straws... remember how plastic used to be preferred over paper, and there was a big shift to move to plastic bags?

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  3. Re: Recycling is a dead end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, it's a very profitable industry. The problem in the US is that people want the benefits without putting in the work.

    No one takes the time to look at the number of the plastic before throwing it into the but. No one wants to read the instructions from the rate management company. Most people don't even realize you cannot throw contaminated materials into the recycling bin.

    What makes recycling expensive in the US is the amount of effort required to clean up the material being recycled. It's a manual process, and very expensive.

    What's killing recycling in the US is laziness!

  4. The obvious solution here... by twebb72 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just get Mexico to pay for it

    1. Re:The obvious solution here... by Major_Disorder · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just get Mexico to pay for it

      Maybe someone could build a wall out of all the recycled crap, and get Mexico to pay for that.

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  5. Recycling mostly a scam by judoguy · · Score: 5, Informative
    Some years ago my wife was at a seminar and sat next to the guy in charge of recycling for a good sized city. Hi explained to her that except for aluminum, the rest was a net loss after all the pollution from the trucks, energy expenditure, etc. was accounted for. It was a feel good measure forced by the city so they had something "environmental" to point to.

    Recycling paper in particular takes so much water and chemicals that it makes no sense. All you're saving is trash pines, etc., that might be better just buried thereby sequestering some of the carbon.

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  6. Make everything compostable by mschuyler · · Score: 4, Funny

    then throw it in the landfill and let it, you know, compost. In my community they decided they would impose mandatory recycling using these huge bins twice as big as a garbage can. Paying the extra cost is required. So every week a separate fleet of garbage-truck sized diesel powered vehicles traverses every neighborhood, making a lot of noise and creating a lot of pollution, so we can all recycle. And you dare not put a used pizza box in with the rest of the cardboard because pizza boxes, by definition (even if they are pristine and unstained) do not count as recycleable. At the end of the run a huge machine somehow separates all this recycled stuff into appropriate piles for distribution to--somewhere. No one knows where it goes. But damn you feel good about saving the planet.

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  7. the 1970s meet the new reality by Virtucon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Recycling is good, it's good conservation and makes good economic sense. What went wrong is single stream and not investing in the technology. We need to recycle where we can and stop just burning it or burying it, it's not that hard.

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    1. Re:the 1970s meet the new reality by smoot123 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Recycling...makes good economic sense.

      According to TFA, apparently not. Did you even read the headline?

    2. Re:the 1970s meet the new reality by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What went wrong was the gigantic push by environmentalists in the 1980's claiming that paper bags were bad, followed by the complaints that reprocessing(cleaning) glass bottles of all stripes were bad - because phosphate based cleaners were the primary source being used. But then saying how "environmentally friendly" it was to use plastics because the materials were already there, and it took less energy to make plastic bottles, packaging and so-on. And how phosphate based cleaners wouldn't end up in the lakes and rivers. 30 years later we're back at square one because what was quite environmentally friendly had bad optics at the time, and companies simply rolled over rather than deal with the environmentalist backlash of the period.

      Sit back, enjoy the shitshow. Hell there's millions of acres of trees in the US and Canada damaged by pine beetles, that are perfect to be processed into well all kinds of materials...but those environmental regulations of the same period hamper clearcutting dead forests, even if the company is willing to stagger non-monculture trees(something that helped cause this problem in the first place).

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  8. No such thing as a free lunch by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's the old story where the first world takes advantage of the third world while claiming to be doing the right thing.

    We were, for all practical intents and purposes, taking advantage of China and sending them what amounted to be mostly garbage. At the time, their companies could pay people a pittance to sort through it - and, If it wasn't recyclable, they ended up tossing it into their own garbage dumps. Eventually as China has developed, they got to the point where they didn't want everyone else's trash.

    Now, the real dilemma is that while many people may want to recycle in theory, they don't want to pay the true cost of recycling. There is significant processing to be done if we want it to actually work, but we seem to think it should be no more expensive than just tossing stuff into the landfill - but turns out there's no such thing as a free lunch.

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  9. Re: Recycling is a dead end by slinches · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the cost of cleaning and separating recyclables at the waste processing facility is too high to make it worthwhile, then the same is true of pre-sorted and washed recyclables. It just pushes that cost to the individual waste stream sources, which is great for recycling companies, but not so great for anyone else.

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  10. Re: Recycling is a dead end by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, it's a very profitable industry.

    Recycling is indeed profitable, but not for all materials. Here is a complete exhaustive list of the materials that can be recycled economically:

    1. Aluminum

    No one takes the time to look at the number of the plastic before throwing it into the but.

    They do not, and they are not going to in the future either. If we are going to make recycling work, it can not be based on people being anonymously altruistic, and attentive to details of cleaning and sorting their trash. It is NOT going to happen.

    The answer is automation. We need intelligent trash-sorting robots.

  11. The end of disposable plastic by DogDude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At some point, the human race is going to have to quit making disposable plastic. We are literally poisoning ourselves with our own waste. I don't think that most people take kindly to being told that they're going to have to adjust their quality of life (or at least convenience) downwards, but that's what it's going to take in order for the human race to survive on Earth in the not too distant future.

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  12. Re: Recycling is a dead end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wrong.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/aluminum-makers-ditch-can-business-11552834801?mod=hp_major_pos13

    Very few aluminum products want recycled materials in the first place. And the costs are no longer there to bother with now.

  13. Include it in the price! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now, the real dilemma is that while many people may want to recycle in theory, they don't want to pay the true cost of recycling. There is significant processing to be done if we want it to actually work, but we seem to think it should be no more expensive than just tossing stuff into the landfill

    If you don't want to pay to recycle then the solution is simple: include the cost of recycling something in the price. Simply put, the originator of the product should be charged the amount it costs to recycle their product.

    As much as self-proclaimed Libertarians may hate this, this is actually a Libertarian solution because you are only paying for the damage you have done. Likewise, hardcore capitalists will complain this is government interference but we've seen how things go when the government doesn't regulate the environment. Furthermore, this is a market friendly opportunity as it will create recycling jobs as well as incentives to make low pollution and easily recyclable products.

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  14. Re:I only recycle to get my money back by DogDude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Processes that don't make money are "failures"? Like the military?

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  15. What Sweden does... by MindPrison · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...may not be to everyone's liking, and for my part - it's a PAIN to do what we do, and it costs tons of money too so it's a real problem, but here's what we do:

    In most of Sweden, sorting your trash at home is MANDATORY. If you don't, you can get a fine billed to you for the extra work the recycling plant took sorting it for you, and it's usually am 80$ fine for each offense.

    We have roughly 12 bins (2 major bins with 4 sections each), Metal, Plastics, Colored glass, Uncolored glass, Small cartoons, newspapers/ads, Food, batteries, lightbulbs, deposits, combustible and collectables (the collectables you'll have to call for, and they pick up like once a month or something).

    It's crazy expensive too, I pay roughly 400$ a year for this "service" where I have to sort everything myself, yet - the recycling companies / garbies if you like... are fighting over the resources because to them, they're really valuable.

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  16. Re: Recycling is a dead end by bhcompy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or just force companies to stop using plastic as a disposable product. Glass and paper are not a problem

  17. Re: Recycling is a dead end by slinches · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not exactly. You assume that "cleaning up" ends up as a net benefit, which isn't necessarily true. If it costs more to clean up recycling than the end product is worth, then you're ultimately spending more in other limited resources (energy, water, labor, etc.) to recycle it than you are saving. It can end up being a net negative, both economically and ecologically. Instead, we would be better off working to reduce the total amount of waste by making one-time use packaging more efficient and switching to durable reusable packaging where possible.

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  18. Recycling needs abundant cheap energy... by KonoWatakushi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The true path to sustainability involves using more energy and less natural resources. Unfortunately, there is a common yet misguided ideal that we should minimize energy use through conservation and efficiency, and that expensive energy is good because it decreases demand. This kills recycling, desalination, synthetic carbon-neutral fuels/fertilizer, and other sustainability efforts. Worse yet, the preferred "natural" energy sources that are supposedly "free", require vast resource-intensive infrastructure to harness, store, and distribute. The massive environmental harm is tacitly accepted as necessary for saving the world, and if these efforts are scaled up, the results will be devastating.

    It is rather remarkable how many have been blinded by dogma and propaganda, and can't even acknowledge the most basic tenet of minimizing resource use and impact on the natural world. Instead, the (fossil-funded) "green" lobby insist that we pave the world with renewables and continue their subsidies indefinitely, all without any plan or even a fund to manage their final disposition. The reality is that renewables only transform fossil energy and natural resources into a new waste stream. How can wind turbines, solar panels, and batteries ever be sustainable if we can't afford to recycle them?

    Environmental impact is ultimately a function of energy density. Fission (and fusion) generate enormous amounts of energy from a tiny quantity of material, are produces even less waste, all of which is contained and self-funded by per-kWh fees. Advanced technologies are even more effective, and produce invaluable isotopes for medical and space applications. With rational policy, not only will it be the cleanest energy source, but also the cheapest. Then, economics alone will drive rapid decarbonization. Nuclear is already the safest by any objective measure, and even the very small risks can be virtually eliminated.