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Facebook To Overhaul Ad Targeting To Prevent Discrimination (apnews.com)

Facebook will overhaul its ad-targeting systems to prevent discrimination in housing, credit and employment ads as part of a legal settlement. From a report: For the social network, that's one major legal problem down, several to go, including government investigations in the U.S. and Europe over its data and privacy practices. The changes to Facebook's advertising methods -- which generate most of the company's enormous profits -- are unprecedented. The social network says it will no longer allow housing, employment or credit ads that target people by age, gender or zip code. Facebook will also limit other targeting options so these ads don't exclude people on the basis of race, ethnicity and other legally protected categories in the U.S., including national origin and sexual orientation.

The social media company is also paying about $5 million to cover plaintiffs' legal fees and other costs. Facebook and the plaintiffs -- a group including the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Fair Housing Alliance and others -- called the settlement "historic." It took 18 months to hammer out. The company still faces an administrative complaint filed by U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development in August over the housing ads issue.
A critic writes, "Funny how Facebook spent years quietly defending these ad targeting systems, got sued, settled, and now Sandberg calls them 'discriminatory' and cheers the 'historic' settlement."

51 comments

  1. In other words . . . by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 3, Informative

    . . . settling became the cheapest path going forward, so that's what they did. As usual though, forced contrition never means they are sorry about what they did, nor does it mean they'll change their behavior. They'll still gladly sell their own mothers' info to the highest bidder -- that is literally what they exist to do.

  2. Sexual orientation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is that a protected class??

    1. Re:Sexual orientation? by AuMatar · · Score: 2

      In many states, yes.

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  3. Re: Blocking Facebook works better... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  4. Excuse me sir, did you just assume my zipcode? by Dirk+Becher · · Score: 1

    *nt*

    1. Re:Excuse me sir, did you just assume my zipcode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HAH

    2. Re:Excuse me sir, did you just assume my zipcode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I identify as a resident of 90210.

  5. So nothing effective then by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    A real solution would include affinity groups, education, groups that one belongs to or does not belong to.

    I was born in the South. I know how this works.

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    1. Re:So nothing effective then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      social justice has been reduced to what groups you belong to, not about focus on individual worth or accomplishment. it is for people who are truly worthless.

    2. Re:So nothing effective then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is spot on. The individual no longer matters. The only thing that matters is the group as a whole, easier to discriminate that way.

    3. Re:So nothing effective then by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      Best solution would just be to stop all the targeting crap and reduce it to some extremely broad geographic areas. Area is the only really necessary selector.

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    4. Re:So nothing effective then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Best solution would just be to stop all the targeting crap and reduce it to some extremely broad geographic areas. Area is the only really necessary selector.

      There's no reason to have ads on the internet. Eliminate ads and that issue is solved.

    5. Re:So nothing effective then by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Would an extremely sensitive snowflake care to explain why this is trolling?

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
  6. Can users elect to *not* see irrelevant data? by mark-t · · Score: 1

    If a person doesn't want to see employment opportunities outside of a certain radius where they already happen to live, do they have the freedom to restrict that, for example?

    1. Re:Can users elect to *not* see irrelevant data? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, same with housing. You see, it is discriminatory to advertise jobs and housing to people who are most likely to be interested in that location.

    2. Re:Can users elect to *not* see irrelevant data? by mark-t · · Score: 1

      Is it discriminatory if the advertiser isn't choosing it, but the would-be viewer is?

      Or is it now even prohibited to discriminate against yourself?

    3. Re:Can users elect to *not* see irrelevant data? by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Or is it now even prohibited to discriminate against yourself?

      Normal rules apply - if you're a protected class it will be wrong regardless of how much sense it makes and if you're a white male then you should be discriminated against as you personally are responsible or benefited from all evil ever.

  7. What About Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook has been discriminating against me for haveing an ad blocker! I see no ads probably because I'm black.

    1. Re: What About Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple will buy all its own ad space! Hahahahaha. Or will it? Seriously, why do the ads seem to go out en masse? Is there a ridiculous volume discount when you pander to multiple special interest groups?

  8. To avoid discrimination? by laxr5rs · · Score: 1

    How about they target their ads so they actually matter to the people they are targeting? I'd even look at the ads if they did that. A few times I have purchased things that very much seemed targeted to my specific interests. Most of the time the ads seem to come from some alternate universe pointed at someone who is not me.

  9. More ads to pay for? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    More ads will have to be sent out by an ad company as its now less able to focus ads.

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    1. Re: More ads to pay for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People regurgitating jingles and/or singing to themselves is what is the evil ads cause.

  10. Re: Blocking Facebook works better... GaYpk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do not want computer AIDS, GAYpk wins again :(

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    1. Re: Still IMPERSONATING me JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    2. Re: Still IMPERSONATING me JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    3. Re: Still IMPERSONATING me JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  12. So what aren't they telling us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zuckerberg/FB has managed to use a lilbit of truth to hide a bigger lie.
      I see no reason to anticipate that this one turns out different.
                            Eventually.

  13. fuck face book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they just closed my account because they want id - I have been called by my nick name for over 40 years,

  14. Why not allow it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    At least in the US it's illegal to target housing by race/ethnicity, gender or a bunch of other protected classes.

    So, why not just serve the ads and relay the same directly to the law enforcement agency responsible for enforcing it? You'd have a nice package -- offender, evidence, victim (it's facebook, so you even know the name of the victim who witnessed the ad) neatly shrink wrapped to issue your fine.

    Party bought 10,000 impressions -- served to 10,000 people... fine them a hundred bucks a victim and move on with life.

  15. Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #FuckZuck

  16. Sounds dangerous by quenda · · Score: 1

    Non-discriminatory lending & housing ads?

    Isn't that reminiscent of how the 2007/8 global financial crisis was caused?

  17. Brain dead decision by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The whole point of targeted advertising is so that only people who are interested as a buyer and interesting to the seller get to see the ad. This is called efficiency, the hallmark of capitalism. Calling this "discrimination" is stupid on a degree reminiscent of a stone.

  18. Zip code discrimination? by misnohmer · · Score: 2

    I am not a fan of Facebook, however, what is wrong with zipcode targeting? If I have a product to which some zipcodes are more receptive to, why would I want to pay for advertising in zipcodes where people cannot afford it, are not interested, or simply cannot even legally buy the product. Say for example I am selling financing for Tesla vehicles, why would you force people in states where you cannot legally buy a Tesla to view my ads (e.g. in Michigan)? Also, if my yield for Tesla vehicle financing is greatest for 30-55 year olds, why would I want o pay for teenagers or 20'somethings to view my ads? Best example, what if I have a mortgage company which only gives mortgages for NYC properties, why do I have to now pay for advertising in other zipcodes hoping to catch the tiny percentage of people who are moving to NYC?

    1. Re:Zip code discrimination? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ads for a Tesla would not be covered by the settlement because it is not a house, credit, or job. The problems with these three categories are that they are proxies for historic discrimination classes, even if not 100% accurate. Worse, the result of these advertisements effectively create a feedback loop that reinforces inequality. Why are you only advertising a job to young, straight, white men? Why are you only advertising a job to young, Latina women?

    2. Re:Zip code discrimination? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because we need actors for a porn shoot and that's what the script calls for!

  19. Sleazy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook will only do the absolute minimum required by courts. Even then, sometimes Facebook does less than the absolute minimum required. Facebook allegedly handed over personal data for millions of its users to Cambridge Analytica, an act which may be in violation of earlier consent decrees Facebook agreed to with the US government.

    I think Facebook executives need to face major jail time. But I'm doubtful that will ever happen.

  20. ah by ruddk · · Score: 1

    So that is why I am getting all those ads for straightening hair.

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    FaceBook + Instagram = FBI

    ^----I didn't invent this statement, but I make sure I bring it up in all conversations about social media. Others should do the same.

  22. Re: Blocking Facebook works better... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  24. people don't want this change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Putting Taco Bell ads in front of the rich and caviar ads in front of people like me wastes everyone's time and resources and drags them through stuff they don't want.

  25. How would targeting work then? by Scroatzilla · · Score: 1

    Targeting entails selecting focus based on a set of criteria. That is discrimination. So, how can you target without discriminating?

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    1. Re:I like Linux so it's a waiting game... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  29. Re: Blocking Facebook works better... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How did you download something from a link that never worked at all in the first place?