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Comcast Unveils $5-a-Month Streaming Service Xfinity Flex (cnet.com)

Comcast announced a $5-a-month streaming video service Thursday called Xfinity Flex, an offering that aggregates on-demand video from your subscriptions like Netflix Amazon Prime Video and HBO, as well as offering free ad-supported shows to watch and options to rent and buy programming. From a report: It essentially replicates some of the features of a cable service but delivers over the internet rather than... well, cable. But it won't have live channels or DVR, and it won't let you watch a live-TV streaming service like YouTube TV or Sling TV, keeping Flex squarely in the realm of on-demand viewing that's less threatening to Comcast's traditional -- and lucrative -- cable TV packages. Instead, Flex will have built-in ways to upgrade to live TV from Comcast. Xfinity Flex comes with a 4K and HDR-ready wireless set-top box with an X1 voice remote, Engadget adds. It's scheduled to launch March 26th, and will be available to customers who have Comcast internet.

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  1. It's not "$5 a month". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Quoting from the story: "Xfinity Flex will run $5 a month on top of a Comcast customer's cost for internet service."

    1. Re: It's not "$5 a month". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Subscriptions required for Netflix, Prime Video, HBO®, EPIX. HBO® and related channels and service marks are the property of Home Box Office, Inc. 4K Ultra HD availability subject to your separate subscription plans, Internet service, device capabilities, and content availability.

      Restrictions apply. Not available in all areas. Requires subscription to residential Internet service with 25 Mbps or above with compatible xFi Gateway. Offer not valid for Xfinity Prepaid customers. Pricing subject to change. Taxes, fees and other applicable charges extra, and subject to change Limited to two devices. On Demand and streaming content selections subject to charge indicated at time of purchase. Separate subscriptions required for certain streaming services. Viewing uses your Internet service and will count against any Comcast data plan.

    2. Re: It's not "$5 a month". by grif_91 · · Score: 1

      I swear to God man, it really seems like you copy-pasted this right off of the website.

    3. Re: It's not "$5 a month". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm guessing they have to do that right now because the public is still pretty sensitive about net neutrality and internet content packages. Making a $5-10/mo internet package which restricts you to a few favored video streaming sites, and then throw in a couple popular social media sites, and you'd have exactly what everyone has been warning about. That would give much more momentum to restoring NN laws. No, instead they'll lie for now and bide their time.

  2. $5 to "Aggregate" my other 3rd party services? LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hahaha Uhm no. $5 to "aggregate" my streaming services? LOL. I "aggregated" them by putting all those apps into the same folder on my iPad. There, saved $5/mo. Wow, Idiots.

  3. Yeah fuck that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Fuck Comcast.

    1. Re:Yeah fuck that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ladies and gentlemen, we have found the only person who has a Comcast fetish!

    2. Re:Yeah fuck that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ewww, no.

    3. Re:Yeah fuck that by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Informative

      Fuck Comcast.

      That's an extra $10/month.

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  4. They should pay me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Basically this is letting them snoop everything you watch and sell that to advertisers etc. Why would I pay them for that??

  5. Probably not just $5. by mattb47 · · Score: 2

    I'd bet they charge $8/month for that streaming box, and that you can only rent it, not buy it.

    Still -- maybe? I have Comcast for internet only. It might work for me.

    1. Re: Probably not just $5. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah. I would try before I buy but they only choose the most impossible times of the year to do promos. I'll wait

    2. Re:Probably not just $5. by pslytely+psycho · · Score: 1

      My hope is they touch off a price war among the streaming services. There are way too many already, and it seems a new one every week.*

      *Likely an exaggeration, but the field needs to be culled a bit, and their content redistributed to the survivors. Although, unfortunately the sole survivor is likely to be Disney.

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    3. Re:Probably not just $5. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still -- maybe? I have Comcast for internet only. It might work for me.

      Why would you, or anyone, pay $5, or more, per month for a box that gives you access to apps for Netflix, Prime Video, HBO Now, etc.? They are basically asking you to rent a Roku from them.

    4. Re:Probably not just $5. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is actually along the lines of what consumers have been asking for and what comcast's future vision looks like.

      They want to be a vertically oriented content provider/creator/delivery the whole shebang. Then they want to give you the option of deciding what's right for you. They're doing this a bit at a time but the idea is that you say "keanu" into your remote and an EPG guide shows what keanu movies are on xfinity, netflix, hbo, etc. Also it will integrate with a whole suite of services and stuff.
      Or not go ahead and use a roku and save yourself the 5 bucks. You have enough choices that comcast knows it's better to let you make them lest you drop them totally.

      Obviously this is all a lot of change so they're doing a little at a time to see what works and doesn't.

  6. I spend a little more to get the DVDs/Blurays by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That way if the backups go on the hard drive I loaded my shows and movies on goes I can easily re-rip them from the originals in the closet all packed away nice and safe. Carry on though if you like paying for advertisements. :)

    1. Re: I spend a little more to get the DVDs/Blurays by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A little more? What do you watch? Like, 1 movie a week? You're not the target audience. You might as well have said 'i don't even own a TV'

    2. Re: I spend a little more to get the DVDs/Blurays by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe not but he's got these movies and shows "on demand" and : lawyers or men in black won't knock on his door and delete or take anything away.

  7. Bundle? by jythie · · Score: 1

    I wonder how they convince Amazon, Netflix, and HBO to allow them to stream their content rather than having customers go to their individual apps/sites/boxes/whatever.

    Still, I could see services like this having a place. One of the things that can be frustrating and limiting about these various streaming services is the content customers want is often spread out among multiple services and we have really gotten used to the idea of going to one source for each type of product.

    1. Re: Bundle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It will probably work like Apple TV or something. I'm guessing.

    2. Re:Bundle? by Local+ID10T · · Score: 1

      I wonder how they convince Amazon, Netflix, and HBO to allow them to stream their content rather than having customers go to their individual apps/sites/boxes/whatever.

      This part isn't new. They already have most of the various streaming apps available under the "apps" menu on the xfinity cable tv box. They also integrate most subscribed services (Amazon, Netflix, HBO, Showtime, etc) into the "on demand" (filter : "Free to Me") heading as a single alphabetical listing of shows/movies to watch. If the movie is available from more than one source, it will give you the choice of which source you want to watch from.

      It works surprisingly well as an integrated source.

      In my area, the TV + Internet bundle is $20/mo less than the Internet only service (for the same bandwidth) and they waive the cap -which is a big deal for us. They will have to change their pricing structure (again) to make this device/service appealing.

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  8. What value does it really have though by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I have Comcast for internet only. It might work for me.

    The idea of a streaming service aggregator is a little mystifying to me, since I just run separate streaming apps and that works really well.

    Maybe if the aggregator UI was better than the stream apps UI? I can't see that being true for Netflix though (maybe for Prime which has a terrible UI).

    For searching, I can already search for content across multiple streaming apps on an AppleTV so it doesn't help any there...

    Maybe the Comcast specific aggregator would offer some kind of quality boost or improved level of performance?

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  9. I actually like the idea by sunking2 · · Score: 2

    I wouldn't pay an extra $5 for it though. I thought this was initially what the xbox one guide was supposed to be but it never seemed to happen. Would love it if this was enough to push them to finally implement it.

  10. Roku by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I already have a streaming service aggregator, it's called a Roku, and it costs 0.00/Mo.

    Also, with my Pi-Hole, I don't get ads.

    Roku cost me 99.99, but it's the premium version, has a voice remote, ethernet [since wireless sucks] , and USB, so it plays my media.

    I of course, have another content aggregator, ala raspberry pi, or XU4, or other cheap ARM board, that costs less than the rental price.

  11. No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All of their customers do.
    They are the ones getting fucked by Comca$t.

  12. Also known as Chromecast or Roku by Doogie+Howser · · Score: 2

    Basically, Comcast will rent you a Roku box? Brilliant...

    1. Re:Also known as Chromecast or Roku by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Basically, Comcast will rent you a Roku box? Brilliant...

      It *is* brilliant. Because some people *will* fall for it.

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  13. Re:World's dumbest incel consumer Kendall kill urs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Naaa, it would be a lot more fun killing you. I prefer shot gun, 12 gauge, non bird shot. Shot to the gut should do it. Nice and slow. Maybe just start by taking out one of your legs first, watch you wither and squirm in agony for a short period. Then do a gut shot to finish you off. Naaa, I would rather just watch you die slow.

  14. I prefer the old classic by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 2

    'torrenting...still free

    (/h or /s, you decide)

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    1. Re: I prefer the old classic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Torrenting? Are you living in the naughties? I stream for free. You should look into it. And maybe upgrade your wax cylinders whilst you're at it.

    2. Re:I prefer the old classic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'torrenting...still free

      (/h or /s, you decide)

      Maybe Xfinity Flex can add that to their aggregation as well. :)

    3. Re: I prefer the old classic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did until a huge aggregator website for my nation shut down (they got arrested though I think the site operated abroad and it jumped top-level domains)

      There was *everything*. I liked 480p but there were autistic Blu Ray rips for idiots who want to spend 30GB of bandwidth and drive.
      Works with shit Internet too.

  15. Re:$5 to "Aggregate" my other 3rd party services? by lactose99 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Roku does this for free anyway (well, free monthly, once you get one of their inexpensive streaming boxes)

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  16. World's dumbest incel child Kendall kill yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    God you're so fucking dumb just kill yourself. Your incel-eunuch faggot fantasies are so fucking gay lol. You will never have a job, you will never matter. Kill yourself. Fast, slow, nobody cares faggot. Kill yourself. You don't matter.

    You will never matter. Colorado doesn't need you. The incel community lol doesn't even need you. Nobody needs you. Kill yourself.

  17. So this is why.... by 3seas · · Score: 1

    They recently jumped up my internet connection costs %5 without telling me anything,,, but no set-top box.

  18. You are all missing the point here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Itâ(TM)s $5/mo so that they wonâ(TM)t slow down your streams you get from these other content providers. Thatâ(TM)s the end game. Thanks FCC for making this an option for them.

    1. Re:You are all missing the point here... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Good point, and a REALLY good reason not to have internet from Comcast.

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    2. Re:You are all missing the point here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because there are so many options and there is no way anyone else would want all that money.

  19. Anti-trust? by FilmedInNoir · · Score: 1

    That sounds like an anti-trust lawsuit waiting to happen because I see them crippling access to say Netflix unless you pay the $5 to them.
    Anti-net neutrality laws opened the door for that sort of abuse so it might not even be anti-trust.

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    1. Re:Anti-trust? by chris+summers · · Score: 0

      Who cares? Netflix sucks anyway unless you like badly-dubbed anime and movies.

    2. Re: Anti-trust? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obama took care of all those anti-trust problems. Unless you can connect Comcast to Putin or Trump there's nothing to fix.

  20. Your'e talking about comcast by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

    Their software is the worst flash based crap anyone has ever seen.

    It's surprising anti virus software doesn't try and remove it.

  21. In beta for a long time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This described software has been in beta for a long time, and free, on Roku. It sounds like it is transitioning to live.

    The beta software has worked a billion times better than their crappy set-top boxes, to the point that the only reason I keep the set-top box is because it's required to have the set-top box to use the beta app. And there have been warnings that users will be charged per device it is activated it is on when the app goes from beta to live, as if it were an additional TV, not one STB and a Roku plugged into the same TV.

    Getting screwed again by Comcast, par for the course.

  22. $5/mo to RENT a streaming box + remote by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    $5/mo to RENT a streaming box + remote how long before it's $7-$10/mo and if you don't return the box you will be billed $250.

    1. Re:$5/mo to RENT a streaming box + remote by qubezz · · Score: 1

      They upped the rental of a $30 cable modem to $13 a month.

  23. Better to run a VPN server by timholman · · Score: 2

    Back when I had service from Comcast (before switching to AT&T Fiber and DirecTV Now), customers were allowed to stream channels to a mobile device within your home network, but not outside of it.

    I quickly solved that problem by installing a VPN server on my home network and using that to watch TV while on the road. No doubt many others did the same. This $5 / month fee is effectively a surcharge by Comcast for the computer illiterate.

    1. Re:Better to run a VPN server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Comcast isn't targeting guys who build media servers with this thing.
      If you want they will sell you a DRM capable tv tuner card. Little known secret.

      As for restrictions on viewing. Especially dumb ones you can easily circumvent. Lots of that is dictated by lawyers when they license the content. So it's not like they're going to make some insane network aware hackbox to probe for evidence of tunneling. The lawyers say make sure you can't stream back out of an egress point or something and cover everything in a layer of DRM that still doesn't defeat a camera pointed at the screen. So that goes in the spec and it trickles down to some engineer who rolls his eyes and fulfills the legal obligations.

      I've demo'd some PoC anti-DRM schemes to the DRM folks in the industry and even their next gen DRM takes less effort to undo than to implement. You should have seen these guys one tool used machine learning algos but you should have seen this guy's face when I slaughtered their next gen stuff with... well algorithms that have been well known in media for decades. You just can't beat the camera and the harder you try the worse you'll make the problem.

      It's gradually sinking into the industry that the best DRM is laziness. If we work on the customer experience then people won't pirate. Yeah that's what slashdot has said since 1999 but crypto and DRM is extremely hard to explain to people so they think maybe if they can just find the right secret sauce it will work.

  24. nursing homes are a gold mine for cable lockin by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    nursing homes are a gold mine for cable locking and they can use this to lock out others in them.

  25. Re:$5 to "Aggregate" my other 3rd party services? by FritzTheCat1030 · · Score: 1

    Hahaha Uhm no. $5 to "aggregate" my streaming services? LOL. I "aggregated" them by putting all those apps into the same folder on my iPad. There, saved $5/mo. Wow, Idiots.

    Yeah, but if you don't pay it they'll throttle your streaming services so they are unusable. Maybe not at first...but soon.

  26. Free? by surfdaddy · · Score: 1

    So they have included "free ad-supported shows" for $5/month? Hmmmm.....

  27. $5 a month for the privilege of a Roku-type device by SB5407 · · Score: 1

    A never ending $5 a month for the privilege of leasing the equivalent of a Roku or Apple TV. This, when Rokus are $30-$40 to own. LOL, nope.

  28. Yay! Streaming services for my streaming services! by nwaack · · Score: 1

    Wow, just wow.

  29. It's a trap! by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    As usual, Comcast wants you to rent something you could buy cheap. For a low, low introductory price which will inevitably increase as time goes on. In a year you will have spent enough to buy the hardware at least twice.

    The hardware is intentionally feature-limited to avoid competing with Comcast legacy services.

    As a bonus, you get to call Comcast technical support if there's a problem.

    And, if at some later time you come to your senses, you'll discover just how difficult it is to return the hardware and stop Comcast from charging your credit card.

    Seriously, just another example of the cable industry trying to apply an obsolete business model to current times. Cable is dead. Streaming is not like cable, unless we (the consumers) let it be. Let's not do that, ok?

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  30. Re:$5 a month for the privilege of a Roku-type dev by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    A feature limited (from TFA) Roku or Apple TV.

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  31. Don't need the set-top box by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't need their set-top box, just publish the APIs and developers can all work it into their media players. If it requires their box, then it's still "just cable."

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    1. Re:Don't need the set-top box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually much of this stuff doesn't require a box they sell or open source a lot of the APIs that drive this stuff.
      Also comcast will rent you a tv tuner for your media player setup..complete with DRM keys.

      They want to be completely vertical from the production funding all the way to your eyeballs and they know that they can't force consumers to use the whole stack so they might as well make it easier to pick and choose.

  32. Former Comcast engineer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All streaming sites and services are pieced together from a small number of contracted providers. Comcast is one of the most popular vendors of these services and runs their own ad services called "freewheel" and it's extremely popular.

    You might be relieved to hear that compared to some other names, Comcast is surprisingly good about not collecting a bunch of invasive information. It's more about building profiles around video content and advertisements than profiling the viewers. Put yourself in Comcast's shoes and imagine which sort of metrics are going to provide the most value compared to how hard they are to collect and crunch. Would you rather know that guys who watch the swimsuit bikini special seem to watch the whole beer ad or knowing that craig, steve, and joe specifically all like content with bikinis?

    If you read slashdot you pretty much know every dirty deed comcast has ever done. They're rather up front and unapologetic most of the time. When they bullshit it's always totally transparent. Not much need for imagination.