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The New York Times CEO Warns Publishers Ahead of Apple News Launch (reuters.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Apple is expected to launch an ambitious new entertainment and paid digital news service on Monday, as the iPhone maker pushes back against streaming video leader Netflix. But it likely will not feature the New York Times. Mark Thompson, chief executive of the biggest U.S. newspaper by subscribers, warned that relying on third-party distribution can be dangerous for publishers who risk losing control over their own product. "We tend to be quite leery about the idea of almost habituating people to find our journalism somewhere else," he told Reuters in an interview on Thursday. "We're also generically worried about our journalism being scrambled in a kind of Magimix (blender) with everyone else's journalism."

55 comments

  1. This is news now? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Next up: Littly Timmy threw is sand shovel at little Stewie! Following: 3 days of drama, starting with the news at 11!
    (Just please ignore all the things that actually matter!)

  2. He's right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aggregators lower quality and take clicks away from the news source = takes money away from the news effort. NYT is one of the last places with enough to pay for quality reporting and sees no benefit in diluting themselves.

    1. Re:He's right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >NYT is one of the last places with enough to pay for quality reporting and sees no benefit in diluting themselves.
      Oh (You).

    2. Re:He's right. by mea_culpa · · Score: 0

      NYT is one of the last places with enough to pay for quality reporting and sees no benefit in diluting themselves.

      NYT along with every "mainstream" news source died long ago.
      It's all clickbait and nothingburgers now.

    3. Re:He's right. by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but I read in another thread that, within a class of stuff, people only want to deal with one or two suppliers at most. So that means each person can only read up to two websites for their news, or else they'll suffer from website fatigue.

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  3. Don't worry Mark... by dstyle5 · · Score: 2

    Apple would never screw you over, no waaaaaaay. They are the paragon of playing nice, no back stabbing, stealing other companies IP, etc. Greeeeeeeeeeeeeat company!

    Apple: "Thanks Mark, we'll give you 0.000000000001 cents everytime reads one of your articles on our news feed! You are welcome dear content creating friend!"

  4. Where else can I get my Fake News on iPhone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will they still source buzzfeed and CNN?

    I need to hear about my hero Jussie! And my daily Drumpffff rage!

  5. "Quality Reporting" by SuperKendall · · Score: 1, Troll

    NYT is one of the last places with enough to pay for quality reporting

    Maybe they should try putting that in the paper instead of what they publish now...

    I just assumed the NYT was excluded with lots of other questionable "news" sources. It's called "Apple News", not "Apple Democratic Party with Bylines".

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  6. habituating people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "habituating people to find our journalism somewhere else..." Yes, that's me. I purposely avoid clicking on any NYT link, and I detest their love of click-bait headlines.

  7. Re: no loss for most of US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought democrats were the ones chopping off their nuts and Frankensteining a front hole.

  8. owned by the Rothschild by Chissblue · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Reuters and the Associated Press are owned by the Rothschild ... The House of Rothschild bought Reuters news service in the 1800's. Within the last 20 years, Reuters bought the Associated Press. Now the Elite own the two largest wire services in the world, where most newspapers get their news.

    1. Re:owned by the Rothschild by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a Jew.

    2. Re:owned by the Rothschild by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (((#MeToo)))

      But you Sir are an asshole.

    3. Re:owned by the Rothschild by Can'tNot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Associated Press is a nonprofit business cooperative. It can't be owned by any one company or person.

      I don't believe that Reuters is owned by anyone in the Rothschild family, but it is at least a private organization which could, potentially, be owned by someone. Maybe there's a Rothschild somewhere who owns some stock or something.

      Your claims are dumb.

  9. Re:no loss for most of US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    get a new job ivan you have failed and are transparent

    try doing something good for a change
     
    like assassinating vladimir putin

  10. Re:no loss for most of US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nymag is a joke lol, you nazi Republican faggots are pathetic nutless incels being swept into the fire.

    The true colors of the attack rainbow spoken like a true democrat.

  11. Re:"Quality Reporting" - wrong newspaper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just assumed the NYT was excluded with lots of other questionable "news" sources. It's called "Apple News", not "Apple Democratic Party with Bylines".

    You're thinking of the Washington Post which is becoming Fox News for the right. The NYT is as factual and accurate as one can find. "Fake news" is pretty bipartisan these days with plenty on both sides of the fence. Whatever your taste, you can find somebody who will tell you what you want to hear. I have a neighbor who really believes that Breitbart is the only accurate news source.

    Another real problem is news is being replaced with entertainment swill like TMZ per the last half hour of Fox Noon "News."

  12. Re: no loss for most of US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought democrats were the ones chopping off their nuts and Frankensteining a front hole.
     
    If they had any integrity they would. If gun bans stop murders then them cutting off their dicks and balls would stop rapes.

  13. Re:wrong newspaper - wrong label by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You're thinking of the Washington Post which is becoming Fox News for the right. "

    "right"? Er, make that "left" (partisan political labels are so hard to keep straight as they both act so much alike)

  14. "We at NYTimes prefer an older business model..." by Nova+Express · · Score: 1
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  15. 'Memba when? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1, Interesting

    'Memba when Glenn Thrush of Politico was exposed seeking Podesta's approval of articles about Clinton. Even Thrush wrote "please don't tell anyone" and "I'm such a hack". The consequences for Thrush? He was hired by the New York Times after the election.

    'Memba when a New York Times reporter called Melania a hooker and they wouldn't even release the name of the reporter that said it, let alone fire her.

    'Memba when The New York Times used eliminationist rhetoric as the lead sentence of an article on the op-ed page in December 2009: "A message to progressives: By all means, hang Senator Joe Lieberman in effigy." Burning an effigy, like burning an American flag, is constitutionally protected symbolic speech. It is also about as eliminationist as speech can get, short of a true threat or incitement.

    'Memba when New York Times advocated for authoritarian China-style government?

    'Memba when NYT journalist Ali Watkins blamed Trump lawyers for leaks, while she was fucking a Senate committee staffer twice her age who was leaking her classified info? Her punishment? The journalist was reassigned and given a "mentor" instead of being fired for breaking one of the most basic rules of journalism.

    'Memba when the New York Times praised a coup in Venezuela? And stated in print, falsely, "With yesterday's resignation of President Hugo ChÃvez, Venezuelan democracy is no longer threatened by a would-be dictator. Mr. ChÃvez, a ruinous demagogue, stepped down after the military intervened and handed power to a respected business leader, Pedro Carmona."

    'Memba when the New York Times finally admitted in print to being a liberal newspaper?

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    1. Re:'Memba when? by PCM2 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Every New York Times article you cite is an op-ed. If you're not mentally savvy enough to differentiate between opinion/editorial and journalism, you're probably better off putting down the newspaper and drooling to Fox News.

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    2. Re:'Memba when? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What you said is literally not true. You are fake news.

      By providing a platform, the Times is implicitly endorsing each of these articles. If what was said was objectionable, the Times would naturally no-platform the offender.

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    3. Re:'Memba when? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I very much disagree on this.

      I give Fox News the benefit of the doubt by ignoring talking heads and opinion articles, and only reading what appears to be journalism (reporting on events).

      I find the Christian Science Monitor to have wonderful reporting even if, every day, they publish one article focused on the Christian faith. Despite that I strongly disagree which what is published in that article, the rest of the articles are quite good. Ergo, one form of opinion article published by an organization does not mean that all articles are tainted.

      Bottom line? Keep your eyes open on every article you read, regardless if you like the source or not.

  16. Facing irrelevancy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The NYT shouts get off my lawn.

    Paywalls be a falling.

    1. Re:Facing irrelevancy by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      Uh, yeah. Does Trump sleep on the left side of your bed or the right?
      https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0...

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  17. Blockchain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blockchain is the answer, to your problems, keep on hashing, then you can solve them. If you feel that you can take no more, and you stock is heading for the NYSE door, got to keep on hashing and bashing. Luring. Keep on fooling. Flying on a corporate jet. It's the best that you can get. Blockchain! Cha, cha, chaa.

  18. New York Times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lying, totalitarian shit rag. Those fuckers know how to goose step.

  19. Too late to worry about being indistinguishable by magzteel · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "We're also generically worried about our journalism being scrambled in a kind of Magimix (blender) with everyone else's journalism."

    The NY Times gave up journalism in favor of click-bait a long time ago. It's understandable, they were bleeding subscribers before they did it. But they are now indistinguishable from every other click-bait site.

  20. Re: no loss for most of US by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 0

    Rape Prevention: The only way to stop a bad guy with balls and a dick is a good guy with balls and dick. Just like guns. See.

  21. cue alt right and old right Times bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The right is so far gone that there are no longer facts, everything is go team and spin. There are corners of the liberals that do this: anti-vax yuck, and tiny swaths of the left like truthers and Assad-suckers, but the entire right wing is now a tantrum based cult. Y'all have made "owning the Libs" a religion.

    The Times isn't bad. Far better than MSNBC which is at least not cloud-coo-coo like the opinion / political propaganda as entertainment on Fox.

    But that's not gonna work around here. Incel libertarian engineers don't want to hear it and y'all are the Gish Galloping cavalry of the alternative-facts front line. We just have to wait for you to die off. Given that, by definition, you don't get laid I guess we've got 10 years until the high end of the Fox demographic drops and then slashdot can host the rest of you when pornhub is down but there won't be enough to screw things up. Then the liberals can go back to screwing things up but at least reality based screwing up.

    1. Re:cue alt right and old right Times bashing by magzteel · · Score: 1

      The Times isn't bad. Far better than MSNBC

      "Better than MSNBC" is a very low bar.

      I gave up on the times years ago. They have lost all objectivity.
      No need to believe me, believe the ex executive editor. They have lost their way in search of profits.

  22. You're the one spreading hate here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Also, protip: Jews can be assholes too. E.g. Israels leaders are much closer to the Nazis than to their ancestors who were victims of the Nazis. Most old Jews can't condemn Israel's leadership for exactly that reason.

    You sound pro-Israel-leadeship, and hence *contra* old victim Jews.

    An Rothschilds are horrible assholes, no matter how you turn it. And no matter if they are Jews or not.

  23. Unconscious bias, amplified by hate and being so w by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a moderate. Voted for Obama in primary and both generals.

    Watched the Kavanaugh circus, scared.

    I've lost faith that the press. The press who used to be able to bury their subconscious biases, and whose biz models supported them actually reporting. My sense is that the *people *, who're overwhelmingly left, are angry. Angry they were wrong re HRC. Angry at the other 50 % of citizens who voted Trump. Angry that their decently paying careers have been reduced to them writing vapid click bait headlines.

    I'm worried, as a functioning democracy needs an informed populace.

    Maybe the intellectual dark web dweebs can stop pontificating and offer constructive policy proposals?

  24. cut by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The New York Times is the most heavily censored newspaper in America.

  25. Re:Unconscious bias, amplified by hate and being s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every single one of your claims is an outright lie and fabrication You are a Russian paid troll out to stir up outrage as distraction for Vladimir Putin's crimes against humanity and to delay his assassination and/or war crimes trial.

  26. Re:Unconscious bias, amplified by hate and being s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a lot of "homeless" liberals now. We used to think there was at least a little fact hidden in the "spin cycle", but now I see next to none.

    In the pursuit of public interest, they've ironically lost what they sought in the first place.

    As for the news commentators on YouTube or BitChute, most of them are trying to put their heads together and figure out what to do. Not sure any of us could do any better as no one hired them, either.

    Tim Pool is trying his hand at a news channel with less bias: Subverse. Haven't checked it out yet, but if it's anything like his solo reporting, it's probably as factual and accurate as he and his team can make it. At least Tim's open with his biases and doesn't pretend they don't exist.

  27. Do you hear that sound, Mr. Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... that is the sound of anti-competitiveness. That is the sound of your death.

    Goodbye, Mr. Thompson.

  28. NYT = Buzzfeed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NYT laid off many of its old-school seasoned staff, and replaced them with just out of school activist "journalists" with next to no experience, and frequently no background in what they are writing about. However, they do tend to be female, and when possible, coloric. Their headlines are now mainly just clickbait, and the "news" articles in most cases are advocacy pieces. This is not your father's NYT. ...Unfortunately.