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Boeing Unveils 737 Max Software Fixes (cnbc.com)

hcs_$reboot shares a report from CNBC: Boeing previewed its software fix, cockpit alerts and additional pilot training for its 737 Max planes on Wednesday, saying the changes improve the safety of the aircraft which has been involved in two deadly crashes since October. By the end of this week, Boeing plans to send the software updates and plan for enhanced pilot training to the FAA for certification approval. After the FAA approves the fix, Boeing said it will send the software update to customers. Among the notable changes to the MAX flight controls:
  • The plane's Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System, or MCAS, automated flight control system, will now receive data from both "angle of attack" sensors, instead of just one.
  • If those disagree by more than 5.5 degrees, the MCAS system will be disabled and will not push the nose of the plane lower.
  • Boeing will be adding an indicator to the flight control display so pilots are aware of when the angle of attack sensors disagree.
  • There will also be enhanced training required for all 737 pilots so they are more fully aware of how the MCAS system works and how to disable it if they encounter an issue.

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  1. enhanced training by zlives · · Score: 2, Interesting

    so.. a youtube link?

    also these are workarounds, why not fix the actual problem of sensor reading incorrectly?

  2. Re:Sensors are physical objects by zlives · · Score: 4, Interesting

    which again goes to question the logic behind an automated system based on sensors that could be faulty forcing correction while on manual flight control... but i am sure i don't understand as I am not an industry insider.

  3. Re:Sensors are physical objects by PPH · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It might not be the physical sensor. Data from both the LION and Ethiopian flights shows an offset between the two AoA sensors of 22 degrees. Neither appear to be stuck, as they both track airplane movements. But with this offset. Same physical fault causing the exact same offset? Doubtful.

    One theory is that the 22 degree figure is pretty close to the value of one bit in the ARINC 429 word for AoA (22.5 degrees). So, software might be flipping a bit. This might be a tough bug to run down.

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  4. Re:Sensors are physical objects by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    The system is intended to change the behaviour of the aircraft to more resemble the 737 NG. It makes sense that it does so under manual control, as that is the main point of it.

  5. Re:Sensors are physical objects by Firethorn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was keeping my response simple, but for "flight critical" sensors the general idea is to have at least 3 and use a voting system. For sensors that are 99.X% reliable, the odds that two will be out such that they are throwing the same erroneous value(or at least within error margins) is quite low. Though there are differences between 'simple' sensors that report back a simple voltage or resistance where determining a fault can be difficult, and complex ones like radar, GPS, that are more likely to tell the system they have a problem. The vanes here are simple sensors.

    Though with the MCAS it was supposed to assist, not be critical, thus 1 vane being enough. Pilots were supposed to be able to override with just more stick application. That assessment is being challenged, and the 2 vane + alarm thing is Boeing hoping to avoid having to avoid installing another sensor for proper 3 sensor + voting reliability, as the extra sensor will be expensive.

    3 good sensors: all good
    2 good sensors: all good(less redundancy)
    2 good sensors, 1 whack - get fixed after landing
    1 good, 1 whack - system unreliable, turn off. Consider landing early.
    1 good - 2 whack(different values) - system unreliable, turn off, consider landing early
    1 good - 2 whack(same values) - hope you notice before crash/fire. Turn off system. Seriously consider landing early. Last good sensor may or may not be usable(does it have an output you can use?). Consider firing maintainers as it is likely at least one was whack when you took off.
    0 good - 2 whack(same values) - same as previous, really. Without minor hope of good sensor being useable.
    3 whack - same as previous. Consider firing maintenance department out of a cannon.

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  6. Re:Sensors are physical objects by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It might not be the physical sensor. Data from both the LION and Ethiopian flights shows an offset between the two AoA sensors of 22 degrees. Neither appear to be stuck, as they both track airplane movements. But with this offset. Same physical fault causing the exact same offset? Doubtful.

    One theory is that the 22 degree figure is pretty close to the value of one bit in the ARINC 429 word for AoA (22.5 degrees). So, software might be flipping a bit. This might be a tough bug to run down.

    It seems unlikely that software would suddenly start flipping a bit repeatedly. That usually implies faulty hardware. The real question is how two pieces of hardware could experience the exact same fault on exactly the same bit.

    My money is on thermal expansion of a BGA fastened with lead-free solder.

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  7. Re:Sensors are physical objects by PPH · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The LION plane had an AoA system problem on a previous flight. The sensor was replaced. It appears that didn't fix it.

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  8. Re:Why wasn't it done in the first place!? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why wasn't this done in the first place!? It is an industry standard to use redundancy for life critical applications. They have redundancy already, why didn't they use it?

    Also: Applying the patch creates TWO single points of failure for the system. If EITHER of the angle of attack sensors fails, goes off-calibration by more than 5 1/2 degrees, or angle of attack at the two sensors differs by more than that small amount, the MCAS will shut down.

    The MCAS is there to bring the nose down if the aircraft is about to stall, which it is prone to do because of the relocation of the engines (relative to the previous model) forward and up, along with the reshaping of their nacelles. With the MCAS shut down the aircraft is back to having a risk of a sudden stall, which can ALSO cause it to have an "uncontrolled flight into ground" if it's too low for the pilots to recover (which is pretty darned high).

    As with aircraft carrier naval groups, continents also ALWAYS have the right-of-way over airliners.

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  9. Re:Why wasn't it done in the first place!? by sjames · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, it's more confusing, and that's the problem.

    If the pilot manually re-trims, MCAS is overridden for 5 seconds, then it adjusts the trim again. It's not hard to see how the pilot might mis-identify the ongoing problem as a recurrent momentary problem.