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Huawei's Equipment Poses 'Significant' Security Risks, UK Says (cnbc.com)

The U.K. government warned on Thursday Huawei's telecommunications equipment raises "significant" security issues, posing a possible setback to the Chinese tech firm as it looks to build out 5G networks. From a report: In 46-page report evaluating Huawei's security risks, British officials stopped short of calling for a ban of Huawei's 5G telecommunications equipment. But the assessment cited "underlying defects" in the company's software engineering and cybersecurity processes, citing "significantly increased risk to U.K. operators." The findings give weight to warnings from U.S. officials who have argued Huawei's networking equipment could be used for espionage by the Chinese government. Huawei has repeatedly said it does not pose any risk and insists it would not share customer data with Beijing. In a statement Thursday, Huawei said it takes the U.K. government's findings "very seriously."

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  1. Le sigh.... by Syphonius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And it continues. Even if Huawei earnestly means that they won't collaborate with Beijing, when your engineering security is so lax then it seems reasonable to expect that Beijing will find ways to make use of it (just like any other large government would).

    It's just another example of corporate balances not finding a decent center for security versus productivity and profit. We all still have a long way to go.

    1. Re:Le sigh.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      https://www.networkworld.com/article/2223272/60-minutes-torpedoes-huawei-in-less-than-15-minutes.html = there's no believing this company.

    2. Re:Le sigh.... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is just the UK government towing the US line, because in a few weeks it may be rather desperate for a trade deal. No harm in getting the ass-kissing started early.

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    3. Re:Le sigh.... by TigerPlish · · Score: 2

      towing the US line

      TOEING the line. As in y'all stand nice and neat toes on the white line so you're all the same.

      "Towing the line makes no sense", and neither does making any business investments in Britain for the next half-decade.

      Brexiters ruined that country, businesses hate FUD more than anything else. All Brexit has done is poison England for business.

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    4. Re:Le sigh.... by TigerPlish · · Score: 2

      Toe the line's always been about conformity / uniformity. I learned it in the military, and before that in school. "Line up, toes on the line"

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Dunno what word to use to express your sentiment. Pushing the limit?

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  2. Another explanation by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And it continues. Even if Huawei earnestly means that they won't collaborate with Beijing, when your engineering security is so lax then it seems reasonable to expect that Beijing will find ways to make use of it (just like any other large government would).

    It's just another example of corporate balances not finding a decent center for security versus productivity and profit. We all still have a long way to go.

    With all this calling out of Huwei, it sounds suspiciously like the US security agencies found a specific back-door planted in the products, want to alert everyone to the issue, but also don't want to make the vulnerability public so they can use it for themselves.

    1. Re:Another explanation by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Nah, it sounds like Huawei holds most of the patents on 5G infrastructure and is years ahead of everyone else getting hardware to market. So now all the US companies that make similar equipment are losing contracts to Huawei, so the government decided to help them out by raising some "security concerns".

      It's the least they could do after the NSA was caught red handed systematically backdooring Cisco hardware.

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    2. Re:Another explanation by BringsApples · · Score: 3, Insightful

      China has a dictator government, so everything in China is owned by it's government, at least from the government's perspective. Everything tech, from China, should be evaluated.

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    3. Re:Another explanation by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      There are two European companies already selling competing hardware.

      You've already been informed of that in other threads, can you please dial down the stupid at least 2 notches?

  3. I'm curious by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How does it compare to the competition? It's not like there's been too much of a stellar privacy and security conscious record in the whole industry...

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  4. Buy US gear by anonieuweling · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Buy US gear because then the US can use them backdoors in there.
    Chinese gear has no US-compatible backdoors.

    1. Re:Buy US gear by kenai_alpenglow · · Score: 2

      What is a "compatible backdoor"? I'm sure the US, if they know about it, can exploit it. I'm also sure that China has backdoors in it. Why would we expect a communist dictatorship know for industrial espionage NOT to put them in?

    2. Re:Buy US gear by satsuke · · Score: 3, Informative

      Which US gear are you referring to?

      Nokia is Nokia-Alcatel-Lucent, not sure which is dominant, other than Nokia is Norway, Alcatel was French
      Ericsson is Sweden
      Samsung is Korean

      That's most of your LTE infrastructure vendors, and all are not US based.

  5. My Solution by AlanObject · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If I were driving Hauwei at this point I would open-source all the software running on my devices. Their competitive edge is in slave-labor manufacturing and insane levels of customer financing, not technical innovation.

    Of course they would still have to address the possibility of silicon or FPGA based backdoors but that might be worked out in a similar way.

  6. US lap dog barks on command by bradley13 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Remember when the UK supported the US fantasy of WMD in Iraq?

    The US says "jump". The UK government asks "how high?"

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  7. Jup, it does. Just like all other. by gweihir · · Score: 2

    Anybody thinking they can buy non-compromised telco equipment is kidding themselves. That is why anybody with a clue insists on end-to-end encryption and is aware that it is obvious who talks to whom to the usual creeps (NSA, GCHQ, etc...)

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  8. What US Companies? by Koreantoast · · Score: 4, Informative

    One flaw with your analysis: there are almost no US companies that make similar equipment. At most, you have a Cisco or something that produces a small subsegment of the Huawei portfolio. Even the Pentagon, when talking about 5G, essentially says that the only alternatives are European suppliers like Ericsson or Nokia.

  9. Here's the thing - FUD. by MindPrison · · Score: 2

    We don't have any proof of it, but we can assume that ALL governments have some kind of "deals" with any major hardware maker, and if they don't want to play ball with who we call our "friends" today, then they're the evil ones, as always.

    Huawei is only being targeted because they're so big, and it's a Chinese manufacturer, and a real threat to Apple and other major players elsewhere. It's a dirty game, but they're playing it against them because the "why not" factor, it's a dirty political game, nothing new - but consider the following, in case it was true:

    Almost every component known to man, is being produced in China these days, complete chips - take the ever so popular ESP8266, ESP 32 and many other all-in-one chips that provide complete communication solutions, these chips are found inside millions of devices ALL over the world, and could very easily sport a back-door or two to sniff on the networks they serve (I'm in NO WAY accusing them of this), but if you were to point out someone just because they're an apparent product that everyone knows, you'd target the most obvious one that is known and popular with the population.

    Nothing of this means that ANYONE have implemented backdoor technology that's widely available to any government, we KNOW of the ME inside the INTEL processors, and yet they're basically everywhere, also in China - so why don't we hear a public uproar against that then? Because we're the good guys? Says who?

    You can pretty much assume that any mass produced hardware can be abused in one way or another, whether that was intended or not, that's an entirely different debate. I'm just getting SO sick and tired of these political FUD games that should be SO apparent to ANYONE thinking about it for just more than a few minutes. Stop buying into the FUD, buy what you want - and be smart about your personal safety instead.

    If you truly want to know - get god at it, learn to code, learn to reverse engineer, get knowledge instead of walking into a cloud of populist hearsay, fake news and whatnot.

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