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Ubuntu 19.04 Disco Dingo Beta Now Available With Linux Kernel 5.0 and GNOME 3.32 (betanews.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Today, Canonical's Ubuntu reaches a major milestone. You see, Ubuntu 19.04, which is named "Disco Dingo," has achieved Beta status. And yes, you can download it immediately. Fans of GNOME will be glad to know that version 3.32 is included in the standard Ubuntu Desktop release. Also cool? This is the first version of Ubuntu to use Linux kernel 5.

73 comments

  1. Disco Dingo...? by Real+Data+Collection · · Score: 2

    No, thanks. I'm waiting for Disco Duck. Better soundtrack.

    1. Re:Disco Dingo...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Drooling Dingus. But then, the President might sue for Copyright infrigement...

    2. Re:Disco Dingo...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do the Hustle.

    3. Re:Disco Dingo...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, thanks. I'm waiting for Disco Duck. Better soundtrack.

      But ... but .. the disco dingo ate my booty ... and I liked it!

    4. Re:Disco Dingo...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Canonical might have made some really dumb choices with Ubuntu, but naming is not one of them. Go try searching "debian stretch" or "debian jessie". Those words are too common to be useful as code names for releases if you search "ubuntu dingo", you are unlikely to find many, if any, irrelevant results. If you add "disco" in there, it only reinforces it. They pick really odd adjectives and animal names on purpose. To make it easier to get good search results.

    5. Re:Disco Dingo...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or you could search for, you know... 19.04...

    6. Re: Disco Dingo...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give it a try. Search engines don't understand decimals.

    7. Re:Disco Dingo...? by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Not DiscoRilla?

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    8. Re: Disco Dingo...? by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 1

      Did you mean "Short engines dance under December"...?

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    9. Re:Disco Dingo...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, thanks. I'm waiting for Disco Duck. Better soundtrack.

      26 releases ago we had Dapper Drake. Close enough?

  2. so what by iggymanz · · Score: 2

    just a number for most here

    for common user the filesystem fixes for ext4 and xfs might be of interest... haven't had a problem with them myself and I admin 400 servers

    1. Re:so what by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It means that code that is unmistakably in Microsoft Github is almost in a stable ubuntu release. The last version happened after the purchase but most programs would have still been working through debian testing first. We're now a full 2 releases into Microsoft digesting Ubuntu, with little outcry.

    2. Re:so what by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      I am much more concerned about the massive amount of bad design that is systemd being digested

  3. Gnome 3.32 by Alain+Williams · · Score: 0

    Shame, I'll wait until the Mate flavour comes out -- that is usable, something that I don't find Gnome 3 is.

    1. Re: Gnome 3.32 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody gives a shit about your weirdo autistic preferences.

    2. Re:Gnome 3.32 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll simply wait for the next Ubuntu LTS. The non-LTS releases break the desktop so much it's not even worth downloading. Only used for docker images that need bleeding edge packages.

    3. Re:Gnome 3.32 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I know this is slashdot, but if you RTFA, download links for MATE (and some others) are actually there, at the bottom.
      I find GNOME 3 unusable too, switched to Mint a long time ago, but will probably have a look at this.

    4. Re: Gnome 3.32 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nobody cares about your shitty GNOME UI.

    5. Re:Gnome 3.32 by johnsie · · Score: 2

      Nobody reads the article you insensitive clod. You must be new here. Obligatory xkcd https://xkcd.com/2127/

    6. Re:Gnome 3.32 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good thinking, mate.

    7. Re:Gnome 3.32 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can hardly imagine how awful Gnome has gotten by now. They really do
      put a lot of effort into making it difficult to use. Let me guess, there's one
      big button with a question mark and it uses pattern recognition to figure
      out the characters you draw (without leaving any trace) on the button to
      search for the applications to run.

  4. Could never get used to Gnome 3 by TheDarkener · · Score: 2

    I really wanted to like it back when it came out, such an ambitious move from Gnome 2. In screenshots it looked so pretty, like I wanted to eat it with a piece of cake. I was very excited about the prospect of having Linux + Gnome on a tablet or phone with their new touch controls and interface. But I was disappointed when loading the first liveCD and found it "clunky" on my desktop. Still is. And I'm sorry but I can't stand the GTK3 style. I use Fluxbox as my WM and those stiff, wide, unfriendly window decorations just make me want to run in the other direction.

    I'm sure it will be a much better experience on the Librem Phone. That's the form factor it was made for.

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  5. Too late, switching to windows. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'msick and tired of lin-sux. And so are a LOT of my fellow developers and sysadmins. With the advent of Microsoft's AMAZING Linux subsystem there is simply no need to put up with the shitty experience of using lin-sux on a laptop. Now you can use all the linux software you want without suffering. I just hope this starts to spell the end of linux servers, too, so we can go back to software that just works rather than needing 24x7 hand holding.

    1. Re:Too late, switching to windows. by TheDarkener · · Score: 1

      Hahahahahahahahaha

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    2. Re:Too late, switching to windows. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish it would be even funny as a joke.

    3. Re:Too late, switching to windows. by syn3rg · · Score: 1

      +1; I can't tell if satire or not...

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    4. Re:Too late, switching to windows. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1; I can't tell if satire or not...

      If it isn't, the joke's on him.

  6. Re:Does it still use systemd? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Does anyone still even use Ubuntu? Manjaro and MX Linux are so much better.

  7. Re:Does it still use systemd? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yep, systemd, pulseaudio and Gnome 3 are the key building blocks of it. No wonder why this will not be the year of Linux desktop either.

  8. Re:Does it still use systemd? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The year of Linux on the desktop will never arrive simply because the age of the desktop computer is coming to a close. Most people don't want computers and can now do everything they ever needed them for on their phones and tablets. The only people who will still use desktop computers will be the nerds, like the world was before the masses starting using them.

  9. My distro is the best by SurenEnfiajyan · · Score: 0, Troll

    It's so funny, in almost every Linux related discussion these is at lest one who says that his distro is the best. And some wonder why Linux is so fragmented and can't conquer the desktop.

    1. Re: My distro is the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      7 is better than 10

    2. Re: My distro is the best by SurenEnfiajyan · · Score: 1

      The difference is that the vast majority of people will agree that W7 is better than W10 in almost every regard, but in Linux world there is no clear consensus.

    3. Re:My distro is the best by Orrin+Bloquy · · Score: 0

      It can't conquer the desktop because it has minimal commercial software support and OSS alternatives are at best mediocre. I say this as someone who administers a RHEL server, who built a mythbox and who used to use Ubuntu and other distros regularly. Fragmentation is the least of desktop Linux's problems.

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    4. Re:My distro is the best by SurenEnfiajyan · · Score: 1

      Yes, it's also true. Fragmentation is just one of the problems.

    5. Re:My distro is the best by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      I always thought because Linux is a Server OS and these distributions just kinda put a Desktop GUI on top of a Server OS. Linux in terms of UI has always had the problem for the group of people between Grandma and Experts. The people who want to use a computer for more then just basic browsing and word processing, but doesn't need to be editing configuration files, and messing with odd settings trying to get software to work correctly. For Debian/Ubuntu systems if it isn't in Apt then you better get ready for a good few hour block trying to get the app to work (ok the .DEB files arn't that bad) and then to find that that software isn't what you were looking for to then spend a while trying to cleanly uninstall it.

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    6. Re: My distro is the best by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 1

      You are wrong. Everyone knows Gentoo is superior.

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    7. Re: My distro is the best by SurenEnfiajyan · · Score: 1

      I hope this is a joke.

    8. Re: My distro is the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then like you the vast majority of people then are idiots. Seriously, your silly OS holy wars leave the naïve people who follow your advice to conclude that W7 is better "in almost every regard" and barring EVERYTHING ELSE that is in Windows 10, they are far far less secure.

    9. Re:My distro is the best by kurkosdr · · Score: 1

      As Android has shown, "fragmentation" isn't a blocker to success as long as each distro runs the same apps. Desktop Linux distros don't do that, instead apps have to be packaged per distro, per release. And that's the problem.

    10. Re:My distro is the best by kurkosdr · · Score: 1

      How about "non-commercial" support? Can I download the latest VLC on Ubuntu Trusty Tahr without having to recompile? I mean, can download VLC on an old Android 5.0.2 phone just fine, so it's not a "fragmentation" thing. Desktop Linux and the whole"repos" deal is just weird.

    11. Re: My distro is the best by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      OSS alternatives are at best mediocre

      Nice try, silly shill. I say this as a twenty-year MCSE.

      Thanks for playing; better luck next time.

    12. Re: My distro is the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is -- Funtoo is where the real cool cats go.

    13. Re:My distro is the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's such a funny article. If you'd never used Linux and you read it, you'd probably think Linux is basically unusable on the desktop. In fact, Linux is remarkably usable if you approach it on its own terms, and don't expect it to be just like Windows only free.

      A lot of problems come from people not choosing the right equipment to begin with; folks try to install Linux on some $300 piece of substandard hardware and gripe when things don't work. Do some research, get yourself a laptop known to work with Linux and surprise! a lot of those problems go away.

      But, but ... "What if the user decides to switch from Windows to Linux when he/she already has some hardware? When people purchase a Windows PC do they research anything? No, they rightly assume everything will work out of the box right from the get-go."

      Yes, that's because the hardware is sold with Windows already installed on it. Try switching from Windows to Mac OS on that same hardware and see how far you get. Or try installing Windows on your super expensive Macbook Pro. We don't expect those things will work, but users "rightly" expect installing Linux will magically work "out of the box" on every piece of crap hardware ever made? In other words, they expect a free operating system will be more user friendly than commercial operating systems produced by a couple of the wealthiest corporations on the planet. That's an interesting expectation. Personally, I "rightly" expect a free pony, so where is it?

      Of course, this does mean we get no closer to the "year of the Linux desktop", because the article is right in this: users want convenience, and Linux is inconvenient in a variety of obvious ways, as opposed to Windows 10 and Mac OS that are inconvenient in ways that are not initially as obvious. It's also much more rewarding to use once you get past the initial learning curve, but yeah ... most folks won't get past that curve.

      However, I think the "year of the Linux desktop" is a massive red herring anyhow. Why should it matter to me how many other folks use my favourite OS?

    14. Re:My distro is the best by SurenEnfiajyan · · Score: 1

      That's such a funny article.

      A funnier comment from a Linux zealot.

      If you'd never used Linux and you read it, you'd probably think Linux is basically unusable on the desktop.

      Don't worry, I've used it for 2-3 years, so I know what I am talking about.

      A lot of problems come from people not choosing the right equipment to begin with; folks try to install Linux on some $300 piece of substandard hardware and gripe when things don't work. Do some research, get yourself a laptop known to work with Linux and surprise! a lot of those problems go away.

      What about other numerous non hardware related bugs and usability issues, will they go away too? BTW most of the bugs I experienced were not hardware related.

    15. Re:My distro is the best by SurenEnfiajyan · · Score: 1

      Different Android forks are mostly compatible with each other. Linux is pulled in so different directions, Android fragmentation is nothing compared to the mess happening in Linux world. Apart from compatibility issues, Linux fragmentation is a waste of, even without that, limited resources. And fragmentation isn't the only issue, there is lack of polish and many usability issues.

    16. Re: My distro is the best by SurenEnfiajyan · · Score: 1

      FOSS projects which try to mimic/replace commercial non free counterparts are often failures, since they're only ideology driven. Software development isn't always fun, especially debugging, regression testing, human interface guidelines, etc. So the vast majority of developers need financial motivation for their hard work otherwise they'll only scratch their itches. Of course, there is money for support but this won't cover all the expenses when it's only guaranteed to sell only the first copy of the hard work since some freeloader will soon distribute it for free. Also with support model there is little motivation to polish the product since no bugs means no profit. Now it shouldn't be surprising why so many untested things like systemd are often released. See, GIMP is not only not an alternative to PS, it's even hard to recommend to average users. LibreOffice is a semi decent alternative to MS Office and it's used only by people who just don't want to pay money and can't pirate MS Office. And why is Munich ditching open source? Because for serious things it isn't free, actually the support costs are much higher.

    17. Re:My distro is the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes you can, with snap. I'm not sure whether flatpak is supported in Trusty, but it definitely is supported in Bionic (18.04).

    18. Re: My distro is the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Saying "they're only ideology driven" is idiotic. Some probably driven by ideology, but many think that open source is the best way to develop software in technical sense.

      Why limit your statement on commercial. Things like browser are essential, and Microsoft is crushed in that arena.

      Have you tried Blender, Krita, Inkscape?

      What are the commercial successful counterparts for projects like ffmpeg, emulators (PPSSPP, MAME, etc)?

    19. Re:My distro is the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why flatpak, appimage, snap, etc were introduced. Have you tried one of them?

    20. Re: My distro is the best by astrofurter · · Score: 1

      Maybe a lot of people prefer the possibility of getting snooped by hackers, over the certainty of getting snooped by Big Brother.

    21. Re: My distro is the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft shills be shillin' for Microsoft.

    22. Re: My distro is the best by SurenEnfiajyan · · Score: 1

      Saying "they're only ideology driven" is idiotic. Some probably driven by ideology, but many think that open source is the best way to develop software in technical sense.

      I'm talking about the vast majority of FOSS software which exist just because the commercial counterpart isn't completely free (in freedom sense).

      Things like browser are essential, and Microsoft is crushed in that arena.

      Because of Google's dominance more and more sites are optimized for Chrome, but Firefox which is considered more free than Chrome/Chromium loses its user base. Just being commercial does't completely protect the software from being a failure, failures are just far less common in commercial world.

      Have you tried Blender, Krita, Inkscape?

      I didn't say there are no exceptions. Blender is indeed the closest and FYI it wasn't initially open source. But even then many people have reported that it still lacks some essential features from its commercial counterparts and has lower performance. Blender is usually used by individual people and small companies which have limited money. Large organisations prefer to buy licenses since stability is very critical for them.

  10. Re:Does it still use systemd? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank goodness, we can stop building software to cater to the lowest common denominator. Wait...how does that explain Gnome 3?

  11. Re:Does it still use systemd? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They might be "better", but Ubuntu will always be the most well known and supported. Manjaro and MX are built on Arch and Debian respectively.

  12. Re:Does it still use systemd? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Spotted the guy who has never worked in an office...

  13. Re:Does it still use systemd? by SurenEnfiajyan · · Score: 1

    The year of Linux on the desktop will never arrive simply because the age of the desktop computer is coming to a close. Most people don't want computers and can now do everything they ever needed them for on their phones and tablets.

    Not quite. Smartphones/tablets are only good for content consumption, they can't fully replace PCs/Laptops at least if they lack laptop capabilities (for example tablet keyboard, mouse). PC/Laptop sales are falling because fewer people upgrade their computers. GNU/Linux on the desktop will unlikely arrive because it's not good enough for average people and has serious issues with quality, usability and backward compatibility. For people who just want to browse, watch videos or do simple document editing there is Chrome OS.

  14. Re:Does it still use systemd? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh contrario ... Ubuntu uses 99% easy for the casual appliance lusr. If experienced he/she just says fuckthisbyteboicrap to any excess shell twiddling, kranks up copy-past from a helpsite and prances on his way. Sure it hasn't improved usability since REDHAT-6, but nothing more is required for a lusrland appliance! You don't need to take Linux as serious as Windows, cause it's free-as-beer.

  15. Your wait is over! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article says Mate is out now:

    This beta release includes images from not only the Ubuntu Desktop, Server, and Cloud products, but also the Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, UbuntuKylin, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Studio, and Xubuntu flavours," says The Ubuntu Team.

  16. Go ahead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Put Windows 10 on your laptop. I dare you.

    Then dock and undock a couple of times.

    You'll wipe that Microsoft shit off your SSD so fast it will put out a measurable gravity wave...

  17. Re:Does it still use systemd? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Normies get out REEEEEEEE

  18. Re:Does it still use systemd? by FictionPimp · · Score: 1

    I do. I like the simplicity of it. I do the minimal desktop install and I'm happy as a clam. I don't want to work on my notebook, I want to get work done on my notebook. Linux distro should be as simple as possible. I respect and enjoy other distros, but for a notebook I haven't found anything easier to just use.

  19. Re:Does it still use systemd? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the Debian-Ubuntu chain, Mint remains the best, well-rounded distro. Manjaro is really great, MX is good. I actually use all three at this point. Further down the distro list from that, you start to experience gaps, holes, anomalies, etc. I test a dozen distros a month.
    A small point - ExTix was the _first_ distro to release with kernel 5.0 a couple of weeks ago. This is a wierd Swedish respin distro and they used the pre-beta of Disco Dingo as their base. And before you ask, yes, it sucked like a black hole.

  20. Re:Does it still use systemd? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh yes, a Linux/Unix init system is trivial. Hey, a good programmer can knock one out before lunch, right? (So the prima donna devs like to brag.)
        So you don't like systemd - few people do. But it is a move-on from sysV init which has been around for decades. Anyone remember SCO in the early 90's - sysV was an unwelcome innovation that broke the way things always worked.
        Now we all hate on systemd. Fine, YOU first go write something better, promote it, problem solved. If it is good it should quickly displace systemd. Otherwise, sit down and enjoy the ride.

  21. Disco? by laxr5rs · · Score: 1

    No OS with "Disco" in it's name will ever be install on any computer equipment I am associated with.

    1. Re: Disco? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Homophobe detected!

  22. Re:Does it still use systemd? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are totally clueless. Manjaro and MX Linux are both immensely more popular distros than Ubuntu.

  23. Re: Does it still use systemd? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ms dos is even better

  24. Re:Does it still use systemd? by brickhouse98 · · Score: 1

    Imagine being so pathetic that people still whine about this. Yes it has its issues but it IS the future (until something new comes along) so just deal with already. Or just use Devuan and shut the hell up already.

  25. Reply to another discussion by Roodvlees · · Score: 1

    This discussion has been archived:
    https://slashdot.org/comments....

    So here's my comment I wrote before finding out the discussion had been archived:
    Forgot this point after writing my previous reply.
    The situation with banks is due to government regulations.

    Less and less people care about freedom of speech and favor enforcing religious values.
    The modern religion is feminism, transforming into intersectionality.

    At the it's core, government action shields people from the consequences of their actions.
    Making the higher quality people pay the price for the lower quality people.
    Quality as in the extent to which a person is productive, responsible and/or rational.
    This allows religion to develop and get stronger.
    In a free society their costs wouldn't be paid by others.
    So I think religion also only exists because of government.

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