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US Requests 12-Year Prison Sentence For Prenda 'Copyright Troll' Lawyer (torrentfreak.com)

"The U.S. is recommending a 12.5 year prison sentence for Paul Hansmeier, one of the lead attorneys of the controversial law firm Prenda," reports TorrentFreak: Last summer, Hansmeier admitted that he is guilty of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and wire fraud, as well as conspiracy to commit money laundering. With the final decision coming up, the Government and the defendant have now issued their sentencing recommendations. According to the Government, it is clear that Hansmeier was the driving force behind the entire scheme.... "Paul Hansmeier selected the pornographic movies for his brother to upload based upon how attractive they would be to BitTorrent users, thus deliberately encouraging the piracy Hansmeier pretended to hate," the Government writes...

With the IP-addresses that were obtained through this honeypot scheme, Prenda requested subpoenas to obtain the names and addresses of Internet subscribers. These people were then threatened into settling for figures up to $3,000. Whether they were guilty or not appeared to be irrelevant. "Hansmeier was generally content to take this step without investigating whether the subscriber was, in fact, the infringer. Hansmeier thus inflicted plenty of pain on persons who did not, in fact, download his pornographic bait," the Government writes.

In total, Prenda Law generated roughly $3,000,000 from the fraudulent copyright lawsuits they filed at courts throughout the United States. While it is by no means illegal to go after file-sharers, the Prenda attorneys crossed a line by repeatedly lying to or misleading the courts. Hansmeier also filmed and produced many videos himself, leading the court to believe that these were from a third-party company... Also, the court was led to believe that pirates caused financial damage, even though the videos were never commercially distributed.

Arguing for a sentence of 150 months, the government writes that Hansmeier "was greedy, arrogant, devious, mendacious, and consistently positioned other people to be damaged by his conduct, even as he enjoyed the proceeds of the scheme he orchestrated." Hansmeier's attorney counters that his client should spend no more than 87 months in prison, with an additional three years of supervision -- and that there should be no fine, since restitution will be paid to those damaged by his scheme.

"Either way," writes TorrentFreak, "it is clear that the Prenda attorney will likely spend several years in prison."

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  1. Wait! What? by PPH · · Score: 2

    There's a business model involving downloading porn?

    Are they hiring?

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  2. "and that there should be no fine" by Sebby · · Score: 1

    and that there should be no fine, since restitution will be paid to those damaged by his scheme

    Restitution? How exactly?

    Either the victims had to pay that $3000, or defend themselves; either carries extra stress (and potential embarrassment/peripheral pain) beyond the costs that was purposely inflicted by this asshole. They should definitively fine the maximum possible.

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    1. Re:"and that there should be no fine" by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Prenda Law targeted people that hadn't illegally downloaded porn. Perhaps you could consider being sympathetic towards those people?

  3. Karma by malkavian · · Score: 2

    Well, looks like one troll will be introduced to a new kind of "peer to peer sharing".

    But the fines should be made sufficient to cover the outlay that the targets had to pay Prenda, plus the "pain and suffering"/lost work days etc. that have been due to this.

    I'm just finding all this quite sad; seems like ethics is treated as just another obstacle to circumvent to make a profit/gain more personal power these days. Politics, business and even on the personal level.

    1. Re:Karma by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't that be peer to rear sharing?

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    2. Re:Karma by Megol · · Score: 1

      *sight* What's with the sadistic delight in the potential suffering of others?

      And "these days"? Read some history, today is much better in general. Of course one individual can get in contact with millions easily due to the internet so there's that.

    3. Re:Karma by Orrin+Bloquy · · Score: 1

      He's going from being Prenda to Brenda.

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  4. Re: or just stop stealing porn by Sebby · · Score: 1
    You obviously didn't RTFA (or even the summary above):

    With the IP-addresses that were obtained through this honeypot scheme, Prenda requested subpoenas to obtain the names and addresses of Internet subscribers. These people were then threatened into settling for figures up to $3,000. Whether they were guilty or not appeared to be irrelevant. "Hansmeier was generally content to take this step without investigating whether the subscriber was, in fact, the infringer. Hansmeier thus inflicted plenty of pain on persons who did not, in fact, download his pornographic bait," the Government writes

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  5. Produced content himself by Sebby · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hansmeier also filmed and produced many videos himself

    The icing on the cake would be if it turned out one of the talents was underage.

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  6. He should have gotten Smollett's lawyer by tomhath · · Score: 1

    Hansmeier's attorney counters that his client should spend no more than 87 months in prison

    Not a very good negotiator; he should be asking for a dismissal of all charges - just because.

    1. Re:He should have gotten Smollett's lawyer by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      He already pleaded guilty. I think the lawyer is just doing what he can at this point.

  7. Could we stop calling scammers/extortionis trolls? by Dirk+Becher · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Thank you.

  8. Re: or just stop stealing porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    With the repeated AC postings containing the same lame, tired argument, it's clear you're one of the idiots of this law firm trying to justify your illegal actions.

  9. Re:Could we stop calling scammers/extortionis trol by Spamalope · · Score: 1

    Are you the leader of the troll anti-defamation league?

  10. Hansmeier should get LIFE!!! by I75BJC · · Score: 1

    After all Hansmeier is tarnishing the reputations of the attorneys and lawyers that are good and honest people -- All 2% of Them!

    Disclaimer: I come from an extended family of Lawyers. (Sadly)

  11. Repayment by meglon · · Score: 1

    Should have to repay ever single person he ever sued or got money from, with those debts not being able to be discharged with a bankruptcy, and an amount automatically taken out of ever paycheck he ever gets (leaving him with minimum wage)until everyone is paid back....along with all his possessions sold (other than personal items).

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    1. Re:Repayment by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Absolutely a good start, but a reasonable restitution to his victims would seem to be called for as well. Maybe 50-100% of what he extorted.

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    2. Re:Repayment by meglon · · Score: 1

      Should have to repay ever single person he ever sued or got money from

      That's where i was going with that... not every person he ever sued, as some may be legitimate... but all of his victims from this fraud/extortion. It should be 100%, and we might throw in some extra for the pain and suffering and collateral losses because of it.

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  12. Re: or just stop stealing porn by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

    Maybe you guys can compromise and use the Australian solution: Prenda Law should be required to send refund checks, but they can rename themselves (and the associated bank account from which the checks are issued) to "The Anal Sex and Fetish Perversion Company".

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  13. He's also tried to extory people with ADA lawsuits by Whatsisname · · Score: 4, Informative

    This guys debauchery isn't limited to internet piracy.

    He also had a penchant for suing restaurants and businesses for supposed ADA compliance violations, of course offering to settle for a few grand instead of going to trial.

    https://minnlawyer.com/2018/08...

  14. Insufficient punishment by fred911 · · Score: 1

    Merely incarcerating this guy isn't sufficient. Incarceration and castration seems more equitable.

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    1. Re: Insufficient punishment by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      I was thinking a baseball bat to the knees... filmed and uploaded for all to share, of course.

    2. Re:Insufficient punishment by Megol · · Score: 1

      Maybe you should see a professional about your sick castration fetish?

    3. Re:Insufficient punishment by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      He's nothing but a low-down, double-dealing, backstabbing, larcenous perverted worm! Hanging's too good for him. Burning's too good for him! He should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!

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  15. Re:ahhh good news for a change by HornWumpus · · Score: 1, Informative

    Copyright office...patents?

    Moron.

    Hollywood owns the D party outright.

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  16. Re: or just stop stealing porn by Megol · · Score: 2

    "Paul Hansmeier selected the pornographic movies for his brother to upload ..."
    So the the person that ordered the upload was the copyright owner, the upload was intentional. If someone stands in the street with a stack of books they wrote themselves and gives one to everyone that asks there is no crime. If the author instead instructed someone else to distribute books in the same manner there would still not be any crime.

    Of course the people downloading the crap wouldn't be aware of that.

  17. Re: or just stop stealing porn by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    I have no sympathy for IP theft of any sort

    Thanks but no one recalls asking. ;)

  18. Re:12 yrs seem like a light sentence by Megol · · Score: 1

    I would be surprised if there were actually many accused that were innocent. Do you think the religious married man with four children will readily admit that he downloaded "boy backblasters II - night of exploding dicks"? Sure there will be mistakes like when it's the wife that secretly likes to watch grown men wrestle and while it may legally be a problem in proving a certain person did it statistically those cases aren't relevant.

  19. Re:ahhh good news for a change by Megol · · Score: 1

    I just got a headache :(

  20. Does that mean by DrXym · · Score: 1

    These porno films are implicitly free to download?

  21. Re: or just stop stealing porn by DethLok · · Score: 1

    Checks? In Australia it would be "cheque" and ... pretty much no-one uses them anymore, money is transferred directly between bank accounts.

    Faster, safer, cheaper.

    And no-one except the recipient would see "The Anal Sex and Fetish Perversion Company" on their bank statement.

  22. Deterrence? It's like soap, isn't it? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    there should be no fine, since restitution will be paid to those damaged by his scheme

    Right. Because it's a universally accepted legal principle that a wrongdoer who gets caught should, in the absolute worst case, break even. Go
      back to square one, if you like.

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  23. Re:Deterrence? It's like soap, isn't it? by Required+Snark · · Score: 1
    Almost right:

    "Because it's a universally accepted legal principle that a corrupt business owner who gets caught should, in the absolute worst case, break even."

    The revision is the way it actually works. Just ask a Wall Street banker.

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  24. Re:ahhh good news for a change by Stud+McPeckChest · · Score: 1

    So granting patents for "[ whatever ] on a computer" became a revenue stream.

    In Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman (I do believe the chapter "I Want My Dollar!"), Feynman talks about being contacted by someone trying to get him to come up with everything that could possibly be nuclear-powered and patent it. These parasites have been around a lot longer than you are giving them credit for.

    Given the previous information you can find the chapter online easily but I encourage you to read the book -- it is quite good.