Microsoft's Collaboration On Google's Chromium Brings a New Feature To Chrome (mspoweruser.com)

Remember when Microsoft announced they'd be switching to Google's open source Chromium browser for developing their own Edge browser? At the time Google announced "We look forward to working with Microsoft and the web standards community to advance the open web, support user choice, and deliver great browsing experiences."

Now MSPoweruser reports Microsoft has indeed started collaborating on Chromium -- making suggestions like caret browsing and a native high-contrast mode -- and at least one of Microsoft's suggestions is already coming to Chrome. it looks like there is one feature that Chromium approved which will be making its way to Chrome soon. According to a new bug (via Techdows) filing on Chromium, Google is working on bringing text suggestions for hardware keyboard to Chrome soon. The feature will allow users to get suggestions as they type which is currently available on Windows 10 and on Microsoft Edge.

Google has just started working on the feature and has set the priority to 2 which suggests that the feature should be available sooner than later.

Comments

Firefox, it is

[DogDude]

It's Firefox for me, then. The last remaining browser that doesn't track and spy on me...?

Re: Firefox, it is

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh, so THIS is when u think Chrome starts tracking you?

Re: Firefox, it is

[DogDude]

No, dipshit AC. I knew Chrome was tracking. I didn't know Edge was Chrome until recently.

Re:Firefox, it is

[yodleboy]

You might as well get off the internet then. Even if your browser isn't tracking you, everyone else is.

Re: Firefox, it is

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh but viciously mocking is SO much fun!

Re: Firefox, it is

[Anonymous Coward]

Edge isn't Chrome, yet. That's still in what is being passed off as beta.

Re: Firefox, it is

[Anonymous Coward]

To get fired on yo day off!!!

Re:Firefox, it is

[Anonymous Coward]

Firefox has had multiple instances of spyware being packaged in with the browser.

Vivaldi is my browser of choice. There is no other browser that is as feature rich.

Re:Firefox, it is

[x_t0ken_407]

I REALLY need Vivaldi to come with their mobile browser (or an easy way for me to sync things with any browser that's available on iOS). For now, Firefox is top-notch when it comes to sync, and Chrome/Chromium isn't bad at it either. It's very nice, must-have for me.

Original Opera Presto fan, and Vivaldi Snapshot user since 2015, but just can't use it as my primary browser until I get the above :/

Re:Firefox, it is

[Anonymous Coward]

Brave browser is worth mentioning, it is a Chromium clone that is serious at having a mobile version. I think it most looks like MS Edge i.e. the design is a flat gray rectangle. Well you asked about Sync but I don't know about it. They say "Brave Sync, currently in beta, can be enabled to encrypt and synchronize your preferred settings and bookmarks. However, Brave does not have the keys to decrypt your data."

Re:Firefox, it is

[e432776]

I hear you. Somehow Microsoft and Google working together on a browser does not inspire confidence for me. Wonder if they have entered into a "data sharing" agreement (scary thought!)

Re:Firefox, it is

[x_t0ken_407]

I'd heard of Brave before (in face, I have it installed on my phone) however, I didn't know they made a desktop counterpart. Checking it out now, thanks!

This is, of course, only until Vivaldi finally produces their mobile counterpart. I LOVE the customization ability of it, brings me back to my Opera (Presto) days.

Re: Firefox, it is

[Anonymous Coward]

And I am the dipshit LOL

Re:Firefox, it is

[Anonymous Coward]

Not for long
Firefox is dedicating itself to copying chromium

Soon they will block adblocking plugins right behind Chromium

Slashdot requires you to wait between each successful posting of a comment to allow everyone a fair chance at posting a comment.

It's been 7 minutes since you last successfully posted a comment

Riiiiiight

Re:Firefox, it is

[Anonymous Coward]

One thing I heard about Vivaldi is you can put URL bar on bottom. I'd love this. But my ideal browser would have TOR built-in, too.

Almost the entirety of my computer grudges are due to RAM, though. If a stick of 16GB RAM were to cost $50 I'd be finally done complaining about this or that.

Re:Firefox, it is

[Anonymous Coward]

It's Firefox for me, then. The last remaining browser that doesn't track and spy on me...?

There's craploads of them (Brave for example), most are Chromium-based just like Chrome and Edge but it's all open source just like Firefox.

Re:Firefox, it is

[Anonymous Coward]

Sync? It's a web browser, what exactly do you need to "sync" and why can't you simply place it in a WebDAV directory?

Re:Firefox, it is

[sydbarrett74]

Found this on the Vivaldi blog. Sync was in beta as of November of 2017. Don't know if it's an official feature yet... https://vivaldi.com/blog/snapshots/help-test-sync/

Re:Firefox, it is

[Anonymous Coward]

Vivaldi has had functional syncing for a while, but what I think GP was referring to is the fact that there isn't currently a mobile version of Vivaldi.

Personally, I am OK with that. The Vivaldi team is small, made up of former Opera devs (the real Opera, pre-Chromium) so they don't have the resources to spread out. I'm just happy that there is finally a good web browser to truly take the place of Opera. On Android I use a "tiny" (actually uses Android System WebView) browser simply called Private Browser. It's speedy and has all of the functionality I could ever need for a mobile browser.

Seriously, if you haven't tried Vivaldi or haven't tried it recently, you really ought to. Just dig around in all of the options and things that it can do that other browsers can't. It's pretty damn impressive now.

They also added

[Anonymous Coward]

native support for First Post mode, m'ladies

Re: They also added

[Anonymous Coward]

Seems like it's still in beta

Re: They also added

[Anonymous Coward]

Nah, *he* is just a beta.

* For varying definitions of "he".

Re: They also added

[Anonymous Coward]

zuckerfucker, did you just assume xir's gender???

Clickbait

[Anonymous Coward]

First of all, this is a clickbait title
Second of all, fuck Google, and also Microsoft
Third if all, this is a clickbait title

M$ advertisement, and come click on the ads on the page of this "story"

What comes next?

[Anonymous Coward]

Embrace

Microsoft announced they'd be switching to Google's open source Chromium browser

Extend

at least one of Microsoft's suggestions is already coming to Chrome

.....

Re: What comes next?

[Anonymous Coward]

Envelop!

While extinguish would normally be the term, this is presumably to isolate all other browsers. It seems MS, despite its coffers, is wholly inept at adequate browser software development. Baffling, but here we are.

No, this is to create a 2 class browser field. Chrome and Edge, and then everyone else. The latter of which will be 'persecuted', for lack of a better term, due to the following features, becoming unsupported by the mainstream:
- media streaming: dropped due to partnership deals
- corporate implementation: due to security and functionality limitations

Once Opera, Firefox, Vivaldi, etc... start getting kicked out of general use beyond individual users, out of business and corporate environments, it will be difficult to maintain the browsers on par with where MS and Google decide to take the browser space. Because unfortunately, they will take the lead if they haven't already.

Re: What comes next?

[cyber-vandal]

I think Apple might have something to say about that.

Re: What comes next?

[DontBeAMoran]

The day they stopped making Safari for Windows is the day they gave up their power to do anything about it.

Re: What comes next?

[cyber-vandal]

They haven't stopped making Safari for iOS.

Re: What comes next?

[DontBeAMoran]

https://www.w3counter.com/glob...
Chrome 62.5%
Safari 13.8%
IE+Edge 7.0%
Firefox 6.3%
Opera 3.0%

But if all IE/Edge users switched to this new "Microsoft Chrome" browser, the new stats would be:
Chrome 69.5%
Safari 13.8%
Firefox 6.3%
Opera 3.0%

And if you look at the monthly trends, Safari is just barely keeping its relative numbers while Chrome keeps going up, eating both Microsoft's and Mozilla's shares. But since Microsoft is basically becoming Chrome, the IE/Edge marketshare becomes irrelevant and simply pushes Chrome even higher.

I, for one, welcome our new Googlesoft overlords. ... sent from my Mac.

Re: What comes next?

[markdavis]

>"The day they stopped making Safari for Windows is the day they gave up their power to do anything about it."

Nor is it available for Linux or Android. And it is not open source, either. So anyone pointing to Safari as a "choice" has to put a lot of qualifications in front of that example.

There are really only two "all major platform" browsers- Google Chrome and Firefox. And there are really only two "all major platform" and open source browsers- Google Chromium and Firefox. If Firefox is pushed into obscurity by Google (which is already happening), ALL users will lose... and badly, but many just don't quite realize it yet.

When your choice is one choice, there is no choice.

Re: What comes next?

[cyber-vandal]

So web devs are just going to ignore iPhone / iPad users? I think that's pretty unlikely.

Re: What comes next?

[Anonymous Coward]

Gnome Web might be the more Safari-related browser out there, running on Webkit and not Blink. This will run on GNU/Linux phones and tablets. I wonder if a tiny amount of Gnome 3 users run it, most distros probably default to Firefox (sometimes Firefox ESR) or even Chromium even if they default to Gnome 3 or a clone.

This will probably have a laughable 0.5% share or less but who knows.
Safari is no choice, except on mobile. There it's Chrome or Safari but you're making that choice whether you know it or not when buying an Android vs an Apple phone, likewise with tablets.
Source? a random comment on /. said that mobile websites are only tested on Chrome and iOS Safari.

Re:What comes next?

[Anonymous Coward]

Embrace

Microsoft announced they'd be switching to Google's open source Chromium browser

Extend

at least one of Microsoft's suggestions is already coming to Chrome

.....

You seem to be confused. If you were going for "Extinguish" then you would need the "Extend" part to be some Microsoft-platform-only extension, which of course it can't be because then Chromium wouldn't run on all platforms and since Microsoft doesn't dominate personal computing anymore that would never fly. So what they would end up doing is creating an incompatible fork, and if they extinguish that then do you think anybody would care?

Re: What comes next?

[Anonymous Coward]

While extinguish would normally be the term, this is presumably to isolate all other browsers. It seems MS, despite its coffers, is wholly inept at adequate browser software development.

It's simply that it's wasted effort to just develop a standards-compliant browser, they started doing it with Edge but what's the point? It only has to do what any other standards-compliant browser has to do so it's just duplicated work.

No, this is to create a 2 class browser field. Chrome and Edge, and then everyone else. The latter of which will be 'persecuted', for lack of a better term, due to the following features, becoming unsupported by the mainstream

If that was the goal then it could have been done at any time but the fact is Edge just joins the field of Chrome, Opera, Vivaldi, Brave, Blisk, etc as yet another Chromium-based browser.

Once Opera, Firefox, Vivaldi, etc... start getting kicked out of general use beyond individual users, out of business and corporate environments, it will be difficult to maintain the browsers on par with where MS and Google decide to take the browser space.

Opera and Vivaldi are chromium-based just like Edge (will be) and Chrome are so how does Microsoft's switch to using Chromium as the underpinning for Edge make any difference?

User choice ... *ba-dum, TISSS!*

[Anonymous Coward]

Iâ(TM)m sure there was a *ba-dum tiss* sound coming from somewhere, right after he said that.

Translation...

[b0s0z0ku]

Everything you type will be (at least by default) sent to Microshaft or Scroogle so that their clown servers can generate "suggestions." Fuck that idea.

Re: Translation...

[Anonymous Coward]

Once I actually see a working feature I'll say where was it a year ago? Permanent silence

Caret Browsing Definition From the Article

[Anonymous Coward]

FTA: For those who don’t know, Caret navigation basically means using a text cursor to move around a page. With Caret browsing, users will be able to add a cursor to any webpage and use keyboard shortcuts like Shift+Arrow Keys to select text without using the mouse. The feature is already available in Edge and can be activated using F7 key on the keyboard.

Re: Caret Browsing Definition From the Article

[Anonymous Coward]

Sounds like NT all over again

Re:Caret Browsing Definition From the Article

[Anonymous Coward]

I didn't even know about this feature. Apparently, Firefox has it too. Same shortcut F7 to enable it.

Re:Caret Browsing Definition From the Article

[Anonymous Coward]

I never quite used it on purpose but I think almost every graphical browser I ever used had it. Netscape 4.x, IE5, Mozilla, Firefox. It's a 90s feature.

Firefox and Brave browsers

[SirAstral]

I use them both interchangeably depending on my needs.

Firefox with NoScript is my default, searching browser.
I use Brave for a few other things when I get tired of dealing with the alphabet script soup I deal with on some websites and it had a built in AD block, tracker block, anti-phish, anti fingerprinting, and HTTPS anywhere stuff.

Google Chrome is spyware and its not even a secret.

Re:Firefox and Brave browsers

[Anonymous Coward]

On Chrome scriptsafe used to be the equivalent of Firefox NoScript, but it hasn't been maintained since 2017. The alternative is to use uMatrix which is maintained by the uBlock Origin developer. I prefer uBlock Origin + uMatrix over both personally regardless of browser. For my dad I set only uBlock Origin up for him for the adblocking. Having a script blocker is too confusing for him to deal with.

Re:Firefox and Brave browsers

[Luckyo]

NoScript for Firefox was castrated after XUL was dropped from Firefox. Current version is close to Chromium version when it comes to features, as limitations of the add-on models are almost identical. It is nothing like the XUL version of Firefox NoScript.

Which is why in spite of the purported "official support" of Firefox team for NoScript's developer's effort to transition from XUL to Webextensions and long and well funded effort, he had to admit failure in the end.

You did better? Prove it... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject + 100's up UPMODS of my posts on hosts + DOZENS of registered /.ers using/praising my work https://games.slashdot.org/com... do you in the rest of the way!

* Since I KNOW, for a fact, you haven't done better JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" you UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous do-NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" full of 1 the 7 deadly sins in ENVY (you wish you were ME, lol) - the sin of CAIN...

(Toss on roughly ~200,000++ users of my program worldwide, multiplatform (Windows/Linux, soon for MacOS)? You lose, loser...)

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APK Hosts File Engine 2.0++ 64-bit for Linux h t t p : / / a p k . i t - m a t e . c o . u k / A P K H o s t s F i l e E n g i n e F o r L i n u x . z i p (remove spaces between chars & download)

APK Hosts File Engine 10++ SR-1 32/64-bit for Windows https://hosts-file.net/?s=Down... (DL link @ bottom)

Soon for MacOS too (I just got a NEW Mac-Mini to port it there)... apk

Re:You did better? Prove it... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Your repetitious ramblings still don't explain why you need 14k lines of Pascal to write out a simple plain text file.

What did you do, hard-code each host like a total amateur who doesn't know how to handle data?

I guess this is where you'll have to repeat yourself, maybe spam it a bunch of times, accuse me of being one of your imagined AC enemies, blah blah blah. You always did have difficulty with simple direct questions. That's a sign of a diseased mind you know.

You're an insignificant little man trying to deal with his meaningless, empty, love-less patheitc life by pretending like your one mediocre accomplishment is something grand. The harder you try to convince Slashdot that you did something great and that you're really very intelligent and always right, the more desperate you become. It's very easy to see.

Extend

[fibonacci8]

This is traditionally referred to as the "Extend" phase of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

Re: Extend

[Anonymous Coward]

I can't tell you how many times I have told my ISP no to downloading chrome and no to downloading edge. ISP keeps sending emails and the answer is still no. I suppose if the ISP wants to keep wasting money pushing the garbage it's not my problem.

Re:Extend

[Anonymous Coward]

Maybe for "old Microsoft" that could make things.

This is new Microsoft that trips over itself in failure after failure.

They don't have the talent to maintain a browser, not even the low bar that is Edge, so they have to fork someone else's work because they can't keep up with the other browsers.

Re:Extend

[Gregg M]

This is traditionally referred to as the "Extend" phase of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

Yea.. but this time they're competing with someone who is as fast and as nimble as they are.

Google will say

"Hey! Thanks for the suggestion" it'll be in the next update for chrome.

Re: Extend

[cyber-vandal]

Let's party like it's 1999.

Re: Extend

[cyber-vandal]

So an excellent match for Google then

Re:Extend

[Halster]

This is traditionally referred to as the "Extend" phase of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

Thanks Grandpa. The 90's called.... they want their "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" post back.

Re:Extend

[Anonymous Coward]

The 1890's telegraphed, but unfortunately nobody received it since the telegraph lines have been removed.

Re:Extend

[exomondo]

This is traditionally referred to as the "Extend" phase of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

Well no, it isn't. That would require it to be a feature tying it specifically to some Microsoft product or platform. The "Extend" that you refer to is creating proprietary, non-portable extensions that don't work on other vendors' platforms.

WhatsApp cari

[Anonymous Coward]

Mensajes

Edge

[JustAnotherOldGuy]

Edge, also known as "the little browser that couldn't".

It wouldn't load half the pages I tried, including Slashdot.

It would load partway, hang, and then say it "encountered a problem" and would have to restart. Did that solve the problem? OF COURSE NOT.

Fucking IE6 was better at loading pages than Edge.

Re:Edge

[Anonymous Coward]

I saw a guy using it for his tiny small business.
Literally "this is where you go to the Internet right?"
Well, it didn't look bad.
I liked that the guy was using a desktop! with an actual keyboard and mouse and the furniture and room was nice.

It was probably using at least Windows 1803 so maybe you're basing your deserved hatred on 2015/2016 Edge.

I knew I didn't want to turn this into a hour long speech about installing Ubuntu LTS or Debian Buster with Firefox Quantum and what do you prefer XFCE or KDE etc.
Friend told him "he can get you the ad blocker!" so I did look for ublock origin and surprisingly it was available there! (now I wonder if I have to check whether it was a fake..)
Edge puts up warnings about how you have to sign up for an account! In now classical windows manners you have to figure out you can click on variations of "cancel", "dismiss", "nope", "not for this time". This spared them a slashdot story (or perhaps more relevant tech sites) saying "Edge requires to sign up for a Microsoft account to install extensions".

When Edge gets auto-updated to Edge Chromium I might move him or people like him to a different browser.

Firefox is getting so far behind..

[newbie_fantod]

...I mean it still hasn't got a decent key-logger.

FFS

[Anonymous Coward]

Can we please, for the love of towcheez, get a fucking browser that isn't explictily sponsored and designed to serve the needs of major corporations.

I don't want autosuggest. I don't want your online bookmark and password syncing service. I don't want Flash. I don't want feedback, logging, tracking, sponsored news, and cum smeared across my face.

Right now, you're supposed to take it and like it. This situation is untenable.

Re:FFS

[Anonymous Coward]

Long answer? NO!
Why would anyone miss mining your personal info and shove ads in your face?

You threatened to commit a hate crime

[Anonymous Coward]

Shame on you for threatening to commit a hate crime at http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=13676400&cid=58359434.

Open web? User choice?

[markdavis]

>"We look forward to working with Microsoft and the web standards community to advance the open web, support user choice, and deliver great browsing experiences."

Really? Standards? User choice? My translation this marketing speak is this:

"We look forward to getting Microsoft to use our browser so we can better force whatever we want as web standards to advance our control over the web, reduce user choice, and deliver a great browser-supplier experience"

If you want something actually based on open standards, is actually open source, is actually about user choice, is actually driven by the community (and performs well and runs on all platforms, too); well, at least there is still one choice left. Firefox.

Re:Open web? User choice?

[Anonymous Coward]

"We must have a diversity quota for this!"

We need LESS not MORE!

[Anonymous Coward]

The problem isn't lack of features, its bloat, bugs and security issues. Why does so much software turn into bags of pus with time?

ActiveX for Chrome?

[bussdriver]

ActiveX for Chrome?
Microsoft OFFICE integration?
Clippy?

I don't do that & post is gone... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't do that & post is gone: SO I assume, naturally, that YOU just IMPERSONATED me again, like always - YOU lose, loser.

APK

P.S.=> Crackpot trying to "frame me", lol - unbelievable... apk

Re: I don't do that & post is gone... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Actually you did post that. The editors just finally bothered to delete that comment. Unfortunately, they didn't also delete the remainder of your spam comments in that story. It takes a truly hateful person to despise an entire race of people. You are a truly hateful person because you despise Jews and have wished the horrors of the Holocaust on people. It's one thing to dislike certain individuals, but it takes a truly twisted and vile person to hate an entire race of people, as you do with Jews. I only hope you don't take all that hatred with you to the grave, because you're one sick individual.

Big "TALK" no action from you, lol... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: I literally wrote up the equivalent of roughly 10-14 *NIX "script kiddie" tools command FULLY errtrapped + my own custom errhandler(s) - have you? LOL, Oh HELL no!

Beautiful EASY TO USE & UNDERSTAND GUI - not CHUMP level charactermode/tty term EASY bs... OR did YOU surf to /. using Lynx? No, you did not. You're not CAPABLE of that level of excellence. I am & have been since 1990.

* THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT & AVOIDING WHAT I ASKED YOU TO SHOW (that YOU have done BETTER than I, yourself) https://slashdot.org/comments....

APK

P.S.=> JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" who STALKS me behind your "ANTIFA MASK" (of failures like YOU) using UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts? You're pitiful & WISH you were me (but you never will be & you not only KNOW it, you prove it, constantly - guilty of ENVY that 1 of 7 deadly sins on your part)... apk

Re: Big "TALK" no action from you, lol... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Steven Black's host file software is better than yours. Because it's written in Python, it can easily run across.many platforms including Windows, Linux, *BSD (yours doesn't run on OpenBSD), macOS, Android, iOS, and anything else capable of running a Python interpreter. Because it doesn't rely on a GUI that *nix users neither need nor want, it's easy to run it as a cron job to periodically update hosts. Your program needs to be run manually, which wastes users' time, while Steven Black's can be run automatically with crontab. It isn't necessary for every user to write their own hosts file software when, in fact, Steven Black's work is more than adequate. In fact, users would be foolish to waste their time reinventing that wheel when Steven Black's work is a perfectly good solution to this problem. You make up bogus reasons to disparage his work, such as whining that it's written in Python. In fact, you're jealous that his work runs on macOS and yours doesn't.

Re:Big "TALK" no action from you, lol... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

You still haven't explained why your hosts file tool requires 14,000 lines of Pascal to write out a text file (I'm glad the Lazarus project has been good to you).

You also haven't answered (yes or no) to whether you just hard-coded host entries into your program, since that would at least partly explain the enormous amount of code.

Like I said before, you really do have difficulty with simple direct questions. I will assume you sidestep these simple questions because you are afraid to tell the truth. By the way, I am not jealous of the mentally ill such as you. I might pity them, but there is no jealousy. I'm not insecure like you are, so I feel no need to brag to a bunch of strangers about how great my own work is.

LMAO - tty term BS

[Anonymous Coward]

Python does all the work (not him, & write both languages + 11 more) unlike MY writing it in a FASTER string language Pascal (which rivals C in speed & IS SAFER vs. buffer overflows & so is C++ which Python is written in (unless you do it right, which C++ COPIED from Pascal via std string use))/

His also still isn't GUI easy to use (did you surf here in Lynx? NO you did not - you used a GUI browser)!

Does he filter vs. invalid TLD/gTLD? Not last time I looked. I do.

Is his GUI?? NO.

TTY term/charactermode/DOS Windows BS is CRUDE & primitive, period. CHUMP WORK to write even when you do a tougher language like C/C++/Pascal vs. GUI interface contruction in event-driven OOP (or procedural) code.

* GUI is the future & IF *NIX want to gain the "year of Linux on the desktop"? They'd better WAKE UP!

THEN AGAIN, they have: What is KDE? What his GNOME?? What is LXDE??? What is xfce???? etc. - et al...

APK

P.S.=> I have an "automatic run" in the Windows version but I didn't put it into the Linux one (yet, I may though) - I'd just register a hi-res (or not) multimedia timer w/ the OS & boom - done in *NIX too... apk

Re:LMAO - tty term BS

[Anonymous Coward]

Python does all the work (not him, & write both languages + 11 more) unlike MY writing it in a FASTER string language Pascal (which rivals C in speed & IS SAFER vs. buffer overflows & so is C++ which Python is written in (unless you do it right, which C++ COPIED from Pascal via std string use))/

His also still isn't GUI easy to use (did you surf here in Lynx? NO you did not - you used a GUI browser)!

Does he filter vs. invalid TLD/gTLD? Not last time I looked. I do.

Is his GUI?? NO.

TTY term/charactermode/DOS Windows BS is CRUDE & primitive, period. CHUMP WORK to write even when you do a tougher language like C/C++/Pascal vs. GUI interface contruction in event-driven OOP (or procedural) code.

* GUI is the future & IF *NIX want to gain the "year of Linux on the desktop"? They'd better WAKE UP!

THEN AGAIN, they have: What is KDE? What his GNOME?? What is LXDE??? What is xfce???? etc. - et al...

APK

P.S.=> I have an "automatic run" in the Windows version but I didn't put it into the Linux one (yet, I may though) - I'd just register a hi-res (or not) multimedia timer w/ the OS & boom - done in *NIX too... apk

All of that psychotic ego rambling and you *still* have not answered why you need 14k lines of Pascal to output a simple text file. Care to try again? Or will you finally admit defeat? Note that anything other than providing a simple answer for why you need 14k lines to perform such a simple function is defeat in public whether or not you admit it.

Re:LMAO - tty term BS

[Anonymous Coward]

All of that psychotic ego rambling and you *still* have not answered why you need 14k lines of Pascal to output a simple text file. Care to try again? Or will you finally admit defeat? Note that anything other than providing a simple answer for why you need 14k lines to perform such a simple function is defeat in public whether or not you admit it.

No he will "RUN FORREST RUN" back to his friends at Malwarebytes.

WTF? Yes I did (I wrote it myself)... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Learn to READ fool (I actually wrote the equivalent of 10-14 tty term *NIX programs MYSELF fully errtrapped) https://slashdot.org/comments....

WTF do you mean "you just hard-coded host entries into your program"?

My program draws hostnames from remote sources (& ones you spend most time @ you TUNE YOURSELF in SITES.TXT for more speed vs. REMOTE DNS & security vs. its shortcomings in DNS kaminsky flaw REDIRECT poisoning OR being down) OR from hostfiles you MERGE yourself!

* You're just being a "ne'er-do-well" PEST - & have YOU done better than I, writing the code BY HAND YOURSELF?

APK

P.S.=> No, you have not & OF COURSE NOT - I already asked you that & "YOU RAN, Forrest" vs. https://slashdot.org/comments.... ... apk

Prove it was ME & JEWS != race... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Prove it & I don't KNOW what you're talking about! Post's GONE so you impersonated me again trying to frame me. RACE?

* SEE SUBJECT: JEWS ARE NOT A "RACE" STUPID - they are a religious cult/faith... & I don't hate them - I pity their stupidity which their exile from 10 nations I know of proves. THIS IS CONSISTENT w/ them.

By the way - I never wished the "holocaust" on ANYONE, nor did I take part in it!

IN FACT, Nazi's & their henchman in Ukrainians WASTED entire tracts of MY family fool! Draining babies for blood literally for transfusions for their soldiery.

JEWS should ADMIRE us Polish - why??

If NOT for us Poles, you'd ALL be saying "allah ahkbar" as we drove them out when all other europeans RAN!

(Except our ally Lithunia - Poles ALSO were the MOST TOLERANT of JEWS (who later told poles "the land is yours, the buildings & streets are ours" BIG MISTAKE THAT & it's what gets them BLOWN OUT of @ least 10 nations I know of thru time with their thievery)).

APK

P.S.=> You are TOO STUPID to live (YOU must be a JEW, lol)... apk

Re:Prove it was ME & JEWS != race... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

IN FACT, Nazi's & their henchman in Ukrainians WASTED entire tracts of MY family fool! Draining babies for blood literally for transfusions for their soldiery.

Had they wasted your immediate ancestors Slashdot would be a much nicer place.

Re:Prove it was ME & JEWS != race... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Jews cry about Nazi's killing 6 million jews supposedly but way more Russians, Polish and Americans died and not combined. From each. Like 5 times more each. You don't see us all crying about it like you bitches do.

More encrypted ads

[AHuxley]

That can get past more of the user installed ad blocking products.
Two ad brands working together to push more ads onto users.
More tracking.

Re:More encrypted ads

[Anonymous Coward]

But we're talking about Chromium, a free, open source browser that run across a variety of different platforms and hardware architectures. Microsoft finally comes to the party with developing and contributing to free, open source software so is it any wonder the do-nothings of the tech world are scrambling to find something whine about and some way to frame this as a bad thing?

New features

[Anonymous Coward]

at least one of Microsoft's suggestions is already coming to Chrome.

I was going to guess telemetry. Then I figured Google had already taken care of that.

Use your software freedom with Firefox

[jbn-o]

As I've said multiple times before, Firefox's saving grace is that it is free software—software we're free to run, inspect, share, and modify. If you don't trust Firefox you can make it trustworthy by examining what it does, changing it to meet your needs, and share improved copies to help your community. These freedoms are a clear difference from proprietary (user-subjugating) software such as Microsoft's browsers, Google Chrome, Apple Safari, and Opera. These freedoms are why Firefox is the basis of so many other browsers such as Tor Browser (making it easier to web browse on Tor) and LibreFox (which aims to "enforc[e] privacy and security of Firefox without forking the project").

Edge on W10

[Anonymous Coward]

Another place where this probably will lead is that Blink engine will become the next element of Windows 10 that can't be separated from the system as it will be included with Edge, hence permanent foothold will be granted for any Chromium browser, possibly giving performance benefits over other non-Chromium browsers.

Re:Edge on W10

[Anonymous Coward]

I doubt this is much a factor. The biggest one is websites made for Chrome/ium : using too many recent web features, too heavy a GUI or scripts, 3D rendering etc.

If you're to install several ones : Chrome, new Edge, Brave, Vivaldi etc. I'm pretty sure they all come with their own code (binaries), this is NOT mshtml.dll.
Expect more Electron framework apps (desktop apps that are also bundled with their Chromium afaik). If you expect to use W10 and things like this for times to come and your computers use DDR4 you should probably upgrade them to 32GB when the prices collapse this year. So you won't be left out when the price triples or quadruples back because they're introducing DDR5 or having a fire or colluding

Yes, I did - LEARN TO READ (1st line alone)

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, I did - LEARN TO READ (1st line alone) https://slashdot.org/comments.... since I wrote the equivalent of what'd take 10-14 *NIX tty terminal commands to do EXCEPT I also did it in a GUI program (much more complex than tty term programs are BY FAR since it's event driven AND fully error trapped).

* You're a FOOL...

Black's PYTHON work (that takes away doing it yourself) is SLOWER code (C++ has lost to Pascal in string AND MATH processing by more than DOUBLE before) AND RUNTIME DRIVEN (slower by default due to it).

Black's work doesn't check for valid TLD/gTLD.

Black's work doesn't do hardcoded favorites (speeds you up by resolving FASTER than remote DNS minus DNS requestlog tracking, dns down OR dns poisoning)

Black's work is NOT gui & is blatantly INFERIOR, period.

APK

P.S.=> LOL - you're the APRIL FOOL (since it's 4/1/2019) of TROLLS... apk

Re:Yes, I did - LEARN TO READ (1st line alone)

[Anonymous Coward]

I'd love to use Black's work any day because it wasn't written by a psychotic spamming PEST like you. Also, I can inspect the source and verify it does only what it claims to do. With your closed-source program I have only your word and spammers have ZERO credibility. Any third party that supports a known spammer like you also has ZERO credibility so I don't give a shit who said it's "fine, well written" etc. There is no substitute for confirming something yourself, especially considering it requires superuser privileges to write to /etc/hosts.

By your own admission your program is unnecessarily complex (it writes a fucking text file) which is another reason not to use it. With your selective reading you FAIL once again to address the issue of being able to automate it via crontab, another reason not to use your shitty program.

Do you know how this works with nearly every other freeware and open source programmers? They write/maintain their software, offer it to whoever wants it, and are content with that. I don't see them spamming Slashdot over and over again trying to work their creations into EVERY discussion because they're not DESPERATE for attention like you are. You're so obviously insecure because you clearly have something to prove. Never a good sign, In fact it suggests a ne'er-do-well as you like to say it.

Do you have a small penis or something? It would explain a lot. Or maybe Daddy didn't love you enough? Whatever it is, seek professional help.

I never RUN: I run you over, lol... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

I never RUN like you hiding behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous stalking me loser & you LOSE https://slashdot.org/comments....

* You're TRULY a fool - the APRIL FOOL of /.!

APK

P.S.=> Since it's 4/1/2019, that truly fits & you FIT the bill on that perfectly, lol... apk

Re:I never RUN: I run you over, lol... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

you still fail to answer the question and just "RUN FORREST RUN" while hiding behind an ANONYMOUS COWARD. Better to be the fool one day a year than like you, the fool EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR. can you answer the question? NO YOU CAN'T. Off you go Forrest...RUN RUN RUN!

Re:I never RUN: I run you over, lol... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

You are illiterate. He answered correctly. Writing 14 nix commands error trapped in a gui would be that many code lines with filters. You are a fool. You were asked to show you did better. You cannot and have not.

Use primitive tty term "inferiorware" if you wish

[Anonymous Coward]

Use primitive tty term "inferiorware" if you wish: DOZENS of our registered /. peers like/use MY work https://games.slashdot.org/com... instead.

* I never said my ware is unnecessarily complex: It does a FAR MORE THOROUGH JOB vs. Blacks on MANY grounds (hardcoded favs that speed you up & secure you vs. DNS down or redirect poisoned (big problem since 2009 that I know of & largely uncorrected by MOST ISP DNS server admins) + valid TLD/gTLD checking & being easy to use GUI)

Clue/FACT: a GUI is more complex to construct, by FAR (being eventdriven alone), vs. simple tty term programs - yes, even in harder more powerful languages (C/C++/Pascal/Assembly) alone - let alone vs. Python "scriptkiddie" scripts (that do MOST of the work for you & are written in C++ which has LOST to Pascal in speed tests, especially in MATH & STRINGS work (by double++)).

APK

P.S.=> (as to the rest of your utter bs, SPEAKING FOR CODERS ARE YOU? Don't talk until YOU PROVE YOU ARE ONE YOURSELF & have done BETTER work than I (which you ran from lol https://slashdot.org/comments.... & PROJECTING you're a "tiny pencil man" (lmao) too? Please - hahahaha)... apk

Re:Use primitive tty term "inferiorware" if you wi

[Anonymous Coward]

Always so defensive, it's amusing to me. The truth is you really have no idea who I am or what I have done, yet you always assume you are so superior. Trying so desperately to establish that. As if it were verified fact. Assumption piled upon assumption. Every assumption designed to make you look good, of course. This is a textbook pattern.

Truth is, the work I do is satisfying to me, those who benefit from it appreciate it, those who don't care aren't going to be bothered/spammed/pestered by me. Isn't that so simple? I have no need to try to impress you. Engaging in a useless contest with you would represent sinking down to your level of trying to win approval. I don't need that the way you do.

There are few things more satisfying than a wife who loves you, children you're proud of, and people who appreciate your work because they want to, not because you kept hopping from proxy to proxy to evade posting limits and spam the shit out of them over and over again. I doubt you can help yourself. You must continue trying to insert your work into every possible conversation like the desperate lonely little man you truly are. You bragged earlier about upmods? Compare that to your posts sitting at -1 then get back to me.

I asked what you've allegedly done

[Anonymous Coward]

I asked what you've allegedly done & to PROVE you have (you RAN, "forrest") https://slashdot.org/comments....

* I know all I have about YOU after that, lol...

(So does anyone else reading)

APK

P.S.=> You can't prove anything you say so therefore one must assume you are a liar... apk