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Former NSA Spies Hacked BBC Host, Al Jazeera Chairman for UAE (reuters.com)

A UAE cyber espionage contractor staffed with several former U.S. intelligence agents hacked journalists or news executives at Al Jazeera, the BBC, Al Arabi and others throughout June 2017, Reuters reported Monday. From the report: The American operatives worked for Project Raven, a secret Emirati intelligence program that spied on dissidents, militants and political opponents of the UAE monarchy. A Reuters investigation in January revealed Project Raven's existence and inner workings, including the fact that it surveilled a British activist and several unnamed U.S. journalists. The Raven operatives -- who included at least nine former employees of the U.S. National Security Agency and the U.S. military -- found themselves thrust into the thick of a high-stakes dispute among America's Gulf allies. The Americans' role in the UAE-Qatar imbroglio highlights how former U.S. intelligence officials have become key players in the cyber wars of other nations, with little oversight from Washington.

The crisis erupted in the spring of 2017, when the UAE and allies -- including Saudi Arabia and Egypt -- accused Qatar of sowing unrest in the Middle East through its support of media outlets and political groups. The UAE camp demanded Qatar take a series of actions, including shuttering the Qatar-funded Al Jazeera satellite television network, withdrawing funding from other media outlets Doha supports, and cracking down on the Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamic movement some Arab governments regard as a threat.

50 comments

  1. iNSAne by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The NSA teaches them how to spy on their own people and then they ply this trade around all the world's slavestates. How is this a surprise?

    1. Re:iNSAne by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this a surprise?

      Radioactivity isn't supposed to be contagious!

    2. Re:iNSAne by rtb61 · · Score: 0

      Unless they are over fifty, most 'FORMER' spies are not in reality 'FORMER' but simply off balance sheet spies with two paymasters. Seriously if they were any good how many would be allowed to work for foreign governments, without their government deciding that was an excessive risk and terminating them 'er' their employability. It is interesting how 'FORMER' spies still push their own countries policies, especially the really dirty off balance sheet ones. There is only one reason to hire a former spy, to interrogate them, using enhanced interrogation techniques, otherwise they are simply never ever to be trusted. Straight of the bat, they are betraying their former employer by using their training against them, seriously why trust them with anything.

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  2. Newsflash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    People loose their ethics if offered enough money Film at 11

    1. Re:Newsflash by DCFusor · · Score: 1

      They tighten them back up for even more money, though.

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      Why guess when you can know? Measure!
    2. Re:Newsflash by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      And they'll continue to be called out for it. It may be a weak response, but it's all we've got.

    3. Re:Newsflash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whats this ethics thing and where can you buy it? Seems like an excellent bussiness idea, there are many potential customers.

  3. Digital Mercenaries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Acting as a mercenary is illegal in some countries. It's time to make it so for the US as well and include the digital domain and the Internet in the list in cursive for the coolness factor.

    1. Re:Digital Mercenaries by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      We're already one of the world's largest arms dealers. What makes you think we'd want to cut ourselves out of the digital market as well?

    2. Re:Digital Mercenaries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're already one of the world's largest arms dealers. What makes you think we'd want to cut ourselves out of the digital market as well?

      But they aren't doing it on behalf of your government. They are individuals who are traitors and liars that will do freelance work for the worst people possible - if they get some good cash.

    3. Re:Digital Mercenaries by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Who take all their NSA tax payers skills with them and sell out to random nations.

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      Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
    4. Re:Digital Mercenaries by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure we're the LARGEST arms dealer.

      According to the BBC

      The US's arms exports are 58% higher than those of Russia, the world's second-largest exporter. And while US arms exports grew by 25% in 2013-17 compared with 2008-12, Russia's exports fell by 7.1% over the same period.

      It is Middle East states that have been among the US's biggest customers - Saudi Arabia tops the list - with the region as a whole accounting for almost half of US arms exports during 2013-17.

      Why exactly are we arming Saudi Arabia to fight a war in Yemen? Trump says the US cannot survive without arms sales to Saudi Arabia so we must accept all their violations of human rights and war crimes. And yet most Americans can't even find Yemen on a map. I fancy myself to be up on the news, but I can't imagine why the poorest Arab country is of any consequence to us. Is it because Abu Rasasa owns Trump?

      And we wonder why we're constantly at war with the Middle East. Maybe it's because we keep selling them weapons! But wait. That's the intent. "War's good business" and "The business of America is business". Grace Slick said the former. Calvin Coolidge said the latter.

      Steven won't give his arm
      To no gold star mother's farm;
      War's good business so give your son
      But I'd rather have my country die for me

    5. Re:Digital Mercenaries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But they aren't doing it on behalf of your government

      So what? Why do you think government is better than individuals?

  4. Act of war, if the USA wasn't ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the biggest bully on the school yard, and UAE wasn't their very own IS-law-based "best friend" in the region.

    I hope the UAE, Pakistan, Erdogan, etc develop warp technology and travel to another rotten planet, together with their puppet master USA, so they can bash each other back to the stone age.

    Oh, wait! They're already there!

    Can they please move to a different planet anyway? How about Venus? Or Saggitarius A * a?

  5. Alright, *AC*. Show us your porn folder! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or your real name and address.

    And political affiliations, sexual interests, religious or other beliefs, bank account access data, all user names and passwords, all posts you ever made privately, and everything you ever said.

    And purely statistically, I will find about 5000 people on this planet, who have the means, the will, and the reason to bloody murder you for it.

    At least one of them will be your own government, given that if there is an action, then there is a law making it a crime. (Unless you're clerical or corporate nobility.)

  6. Agents or agentless by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    It's actually fairly common for Americans to sell out and work for other nation states. It's one of our primary risk factors, HUMINT wise.

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    1. Re:Agents or agentless by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      *cough*Google Employees*cough*

    2. Re:Agents or agentless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It shows the type of untrustworthy people that are doing this for either the government or corporations(like google).
      They have no morals and really do not care about their own country or its citizens.
      They are liars.

  7. Re:It is Allah's will by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Modded down by gay, white-boy christian faggot.

  8. Hacked Amazon by sdinfoserv · · Score: 1

    So when Bezo's claimed that he was hacked by Saudi Arabia,
    https://arstechnica.com/tech-p...
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/31...
    it was really US NSA operatives that hacked him.. got it....
    not sure if it's all that smart to screw with the worlds richest man.

    1. Re:Hacked Amazon by zlives · · Score: 1

      saudi's are not technically == UAE
      but who knows for sure which is in charge.

      maybe the world richest man can then decide to do something so that things like that don;t happen by investing in a secure communication device.

    2. Re:Hacked Amazon by sdinfoserv · · Score: 1

      I understand that - it's the connection to "other nation states" using NSA actors / contractors... which basically implies the NSA is a US state sponsored hacking club for higher.

    3. Re:Hacked Amazon by zlives · · Score: 1

      assuming most NSA employees with the right skills would have security clearances, and their job and travel is probably tracked... who knows who is really in charge.

    4. Re:Hacked Amazon by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Did everybody really miss the first word, "Former" as in don't work for the NSA. Fired/quit I mean is the outrage all that much of the rage that we just pretend the word doesn't exist? Singapore would not approve.

    5. Re:Hacked Amazon by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      Maybe the UAE and Saudi Arabia are technically different countries, but lately I see them as big and little brother who march in lockstep.

      Full disclosure: I watch Al Jazeera all the time. It's only because I'm lazy that my TV is on PBS right now. Al Jazeera is biased, especially when it comes to news about Qatar, but I'm not convinced they're worse than Saudi Arabia or the UAE.

      Is Bezos really richer than the Saudi royal family? Even if he is on paper, can he put his hands on more cash?

  9. Re:It is Allah's will by gtall · · Score: 1

    Just for the record, the whole "Allah's will" bit is a bit overblown. First off, Allah is so other as to not actually have a will. And Allah isn't really a He, not even an it. To put a finer theological point on it, Allah doesn't really have a name which would mean an "it". You'd have to go into Early Christian and Jewish theology to get at the notion. It is more akin to Buddhism without the divine being internal. The way I understand the situation is that Allah is more akin to the fabric of space and time, but not as real, being outside of space and time.

    Sound mysterious? It is. Sound like bullshit? I tend to think it is. Most Muslims get it all wrong, so do Christians and Jews. But then the notions are more philosophical than real and most people have no tolerance to argue at that level. They'd prefer a G-d who comes a'smiting this and a'smoting that....or if you are a Prosperity Christian, G-d wants you to be rich so give to your favorite Preacher... a lot...yes it is paradoxical, G-d's one weird dude in modern Christianity. Or if you are an Evangelical, Trump is the new Christ and you can feel secure in hating them foreigners...especially the border hoppers.

  10. Former U.S. intelligence agents by PPH · · Score: 1

    Also known as NOC.

    "As always, should you or any of your IM Force be caught or killed, the secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions. This tape will self-destruct in five seconds."

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    Have gnu, will travel.
  11. Re:It is Allah's will by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man, you really put everything into perspective. I'll just the let dead homosexuals know this and everything will be fine. Thanks for the insight.

  12. Re:It is Allah's will by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dead homosexuals, you mean log cabin Republicans? They're just sleeping during this neo-nazi phase their incel boyfriend is going through.

  13. Re: It is Allah's will by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man that's some polished turd you have there. Like maybe no one wants to argue with you because.... man you just come up with conclusions with no evidence or references..... sort of like Trump basically.

    To be fair..." I'm right if I keep insisting" tactic will wear most people out so unless they have some leverage over you ..... just by insisting all the way you will never "lose". Which is exactly what Trump does and very few really have the patience or tolerance to talk to brick walls for extended periods of time.

  14. What was the --actual-- offense of Al Jazeera TV? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Showing things from the perspective of the oppressed in places such as Palestine, no doubt.

  15. Re:It is Allah's will by BoogieChile · · Score: 1

    > Sound like bullshit? I tend to think it is.

    And yet you still can't bring yourself to put the 'o' in 'god'. Unless you're being ironic, of course.

  16. It wuz haxx0rz! Dey b haxx0rin, wif de hax! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    msmash really has a nose for finding the most informative *cough cough* news *cough cough cough* articles *cough cough cough cough* all around.

  17. There's no such thing as a "former" spy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My aunt worked in the "business". You have been told secrets.
    As long as those secrets are in you, you continue to be in. So you're never really out. You just are left alone for *most* of the time.
    You are still watched, to avoid leaks.
    You still get the special forces extracting you in case you are kidnapped or something.

    So yeah, "former" doesn't mean as much as you think it does.

    1. Re:There's no such thing as a "former" spy. by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Sure it does when the people in this thread are salivating like the guys are hacking from langley for Singapore. I see no reason a NSA hacker should have access to secrets outside of exploits and wotnot which, have you seen the vault leaks? Everybody knows about them now so...

  18. Only half the story. In reality ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... yeah, we won't admit you're a spy.... BUT we will also have the special forces extract you.

    Because it's our secrets on the line too!

    You are even expected to call the special number if you are in danger ... while you still can.

  19. Oxymoron or not read the bible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you nut really read the bible, or how do you think being Christian is compatible with being gay?
    Or wearing clothes of two diifferend threads for that matter. ^^

  20. It's a fear to money conversion pump. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is just the pumping.

    Its purpose is to make people afraid and hate each other, so weapons can be sold for money.

    Didn't you know? If you're against breeding terrorists, you're against Americans, American economy, a truly free market, and job creation. ;)

  21. Former? by Gonoff · · Score: 1

    at least nine former employees of the U.S. National Security Agency

    "former members" of criminal groups are still criminals. It does not matter if they are Mafia, MAFIAA, US spooks or whatever. Whether they wear suits (Al Capones ones did) or jeans and T-shirts, they are criminals of varying legality.

    Most gangs are not happy let you really leave. Whether it is a street gang, or the CIA, you are regarded as still being bound by their rules. Some groups promise violence if you try and leave, others just refuse to recognise that if you leave, you are no longer part of them and bound by their special culture. Leavers may be threatened with violence, death, kidnapping and confinement but they don't let you leave.

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    I'll see your Constitution and raise you a Queen.
    1. Re:Former? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can it Euro-Cuck

    2. Re:Former? by Ryanrule · · Score: 1

      and the kgb. seems you forgot them, too much potato vodka?

    3. Re:Former? by Ryanrule · · Score: 1

      or the pla eh?

    4. Re:Former? by Gonoff · · Score: 1

      I mentioned the other gangs as examples. Pick your preferred bunch of sociopaths or psychopaths. To mention them all would need a very long list.

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  22. Re:It is Allah's will by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

    We should start spelling Allah as "-ll-h". Except then nobody would know what the hell we were talking about.

  23. Re:What was the --actual-- offense of Al Jazeera T by Ryanrule · · Score: 1

    reporting on the saudi war vs yemen.

  24. Al Jazeera's Crime - Being Funded by Qatar by Koreantoast · · Score: 1

    Actually, Al Jazeera's "sin" was simply being funded by Qatar, a state that Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Bahrain, and others are trying to strangle for doing business with regional nemesis Iran.

  25. Irony by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

    A UAE cyber espionage contractor staffed with several former U.S. intelligence agents hacked journalists or news executives at Al Jazeera, the BBC, Al Arabi and others throughout June 2017, Reuters reported Monday.

    What an irony. After the fall of the Soviet Union, we had this fear (not that irrational mind you) of unemployed former USSR agents selling their (insert Liam Neeson's voice) "very particular set of skills", nukes and shit to whatever rogue state, terror groups or criminal syndicates.

    We even made movies out of that shit.

    And yet, 2019 comes and says "hi, here you are."