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Canada Warming Twice as Fast as the Rest of the World, Report Says (bbc.com)

Canada is warming on average at a rate twice as fast as the rest of the world, a new scientific report indicates. From a report: The federal government climate report also warns that changes are already evident in many parts of the country and are projected to intensify. Canada's Arctic has seen the deepest impact and will continue to warm at more than double the global rate. The report suggests that many of the effects already seen are probably irreversible. Canada's annual average temperature has increased by an estimated 1.7C (3F) since 1948, when nationwide temperatures were first recorded. The largest temperature increases have been seen in the North, the Prairies, and in northern British Columbia. Annual average temperature in northern Canada increased by approximately 2.3C.

108 comments

  1. Good for Canada? by jpaine619 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Maybe they can move out of the igloos and into normal houses. ;)

    1. Re:Good for Canada? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well you went from 0 to hoser in no time. eh.

    2. Re:Good for Canada? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Learn to code.

    3. Re:Good for Canada? by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      Yeah. It is a work day. It's great when your job involves the internet... Can fuck around all day on Slashdot if I want, and since I'm the boss....

  2. Re:In before Kendall's boring lies and FUD by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

    You do realize you have a mental condition, right? Seriously.. Normal people don't act like you. Seriously.. You need to seek treatment..

  3. Buy Now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here in the Bay Area, we have real estate agents who specialize solely in the folks who want to cash out of their million+ homes and relocate to Montana, North Dakota, and rural plains Canada to reap to "benefits" of global warming.

    Buy now, before it's too late.

  4. Duplicate post? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 4, Informative

    This same story is 12 stories down.

    1. Re:Duplicate post? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      M'Smash still thinks this is Reddit and that he can karma-whore with reposts.

    2. Re:Duplicate post? by Daralantan · · Score: 3, Funny

      Canada warming posts happening twice as much as most other /. topics!

    3. Re:Duplicate post? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      lol

    4. Re:Duplicate post? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      Canada has to do it twice: once in English with extra u's and once in French with extra accents.

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    5. Re:Duplicate post? by slickwillie · · Score: 1

      Canada is actually warming 4 times faster but they had to release the story in two parts so as not to cause a panic.

      Stampeding Canooks are worse than stampeding mooses.

    6. Re:Duplicate post? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "This same story is 12 stories down."

      Yeah, it's stories all the way down.

  5. and /. posts the same article twice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    must be the heat strike

  6. Well, of course it is! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Canada is a hotbed of virtue signalling.

    It's a dirty business producing blue hair dye at industrial scales.

    1. Re:Well, of course it is! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best part is that complaining about virtue signaling is itself virtue signaling.

    2. Re:Well, of course it is! by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      It's not just virtue signaling, we're doing something about it. Trudeau has instituted carbon tax. No one likes it but it will make burning fossil fuels just slightly more expensive than it was before thus discouraging use. We're hoping the other nations that are actually creating most of the pollution follow suit.

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    3. Re:Well, of course it is! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you're an idiot.

      First of all, NO OTHER NATION will "follow suit". Canada is a joke on the world stage and nobody cares what we do.

      Next, even if all the human beings in Canada instantly disappeared, there would be NO change to the rate of climate change in the world: We could kill all of ourselves or beggar the entire nation with counterproductive carbon taxes and it would not make the slightest difference.

      What is needed is leadership to understand that climate change IS COMING and we can't stop it: We need to STOP p*ssing around with stupid carbon taxes and virtue signalling and start investing in actions that will help to mitigate the risk going forwards.

      We need to:
      1. Provide help to communities that are going to be most affected in the far north as permafrost melts, to either move to safer ground or build better foundations for their homes, and deal with the changes to the flora and fauna that are coming.
      2. Provide help to fishers on both coasts to deal with changes in fish stocks caused by ocean warming. Determine if it makes sense to build coral farms off our coasts.
      3. Provide assistance to communities in central and western Canada to improve building codes to resist tornadoes and build community shelters to protect citizens when a tornado hits.
      4. Provide assistance to coastal communities to plan to move to higher ground as ocean levels rise.
      5. We have the most fresh water of any nation in the world: We need to plan to take better care of that and clean up the pollution and damage that has been done (Like Grassy Narrows): Water will be a vital possession in the future and we need to start to plan to protect and care for it now.

      None of this will be done by the feeble-minded and greedy Liberals. It's time to get rid of Sonny Bubbles and put the Conservatives back in power.

    4. Re:Well, of course it is! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Must be all the hot air.

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  7. I found out why by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

    Twice the number of this story have been posted, so twice the warming

    1. Re:I found out why by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      Cut greenhouse gas emissions by eliminating duplicate posts!

  8. Isn't it obvious? by Real+Data+Collection · · Score: 1

    All those hot French-Canadian women in Quebec!

    1. Re:Isn't it obvious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cold shoulder and icy stares they're giving you more than balances that out.

      What's left is actual climate change.

    2. Re:Isn't it obvious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've always found them to be quite friendly.

  9. Mmmmmm..... by WankerWeasel · · Score: 1

    Warm maple syrup.

  10. Re:INB4 Justin Trudeau by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And 99% of the science in the world, and 100% of the science that isn't funded by big oil...

  11. Take the red pill by nwaack · · Score: 1

    The Matrix just re-loaded.

  12. No it isn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    * Canada is not warming at all.
    * If it is warming, it's not rising faster than the rest of the world.
    * It if it rising faster than the rest of the world, it's not human-created
    * If it is human created, it's not a significant change anyway.
    * profit!

    1. Re:No it isn't by FFOMelchior · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You forgot...
      * If it is human created, it's too late to stop it now anyway.
      * If it's not too late to stop it, why should we be the ones to stop our pollution when country X is polluting too!

    2. Re: No it isn't by illiac_1962 · · Score: 1

      Nonetheless, this is shaping up to help my retirement plans. I love forests, just not cold ones.

    3. Re:No it isn't by tdailey · · Score: 1

      when country X is polluting too!

      You're not wrong. Frankly, as a Canadian, I'm sick of being told I should feel guilty about our Alberta having one of the most well-run oil industries in the world while Saudi Arabia shits on human rights and Venezuela's citizens live in universal suffrage.

  13. Carbon Tax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL the day the carbon tax comes into effect the government propaganda network pumps out this bullshit story. Meanwhile we are sitting on the largest frost build up we have had in years. Don't know who still believes these chumps but you guys are pretty gullible.

    1. Re:Carbon Tax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL the day the carbon tax comes into effect the government propaganda network pumps out this bullshit story. Meanwhile we are sitting on the largest frost build up we have had in years. Don't know who still believes these chumps but you guys are pretty gullible.

      Yup, we all have these little propaganda devices called cell phones that we stare at all day repeating the same lies 24/7 until its considered fact.

  14. Nova Scotian here, Bull Shit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's the same old cold stuff .. Yes we had an exceptionally nice summer in 2018, but also a very, extra cold winter 2018-2019(thus far). I hate Canada, mostly because of the weather, then socialism(our healthcare SUCKS! fools, don't follow) and now replacement of my people(fastest rate of ethnic change in the world).

    1. Re:Nova Scotian here, Bull Shit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "my people" ? What are those, the anglo colonisers? Maybe you should go back to where you came from...

    2. Re: Nova Scotian here, Bull Shit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only Nova Scotia health care. I dont hate it here in Ontario.

    3. Re: Nova Scotian here, Bull Shit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is ironic that the successors to the dinosaurs have no contingency plan beyond a bug out bag.

    4. Re:Nova Scotian here, Bull Shit... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Well, it can be done right, take a look at Europe. Of course, everyone has to pay, too, it's not just that everyone should be going to get cheap pills.

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  15. Canada needs to warm up by gachunt · · Score: 1

    For all those Hollywood celebrities living in warm California that vowed to move to Canada after Trump won the election.

    We want them to keep their word. It would be ironic if they were full of hot air....

    1. Re:Canada needs to warm up by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      You realize when they move home they'll be old and claim CPP and OAS and will be a drain on the economy, eh?

      (caveat: me too)

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    2. Re:Canada needs to warm up by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      They didn't want our celebrities, built a wall, and made Hollywood pay for it.

    3. Re:Canada needs to warm up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A truly funny comment. Thanks for that.

  16. Is it Tim Hortons? by kimgkimg · · Score: 1

    They have more Tim Hortons than anywhere else in the world, so maybe that's the cause?

    1. Re:Is it Tim Hortons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They also have way more coastline than any other country. That's more likely to have an impact than the number of Timmy's.

  17. Odd, they say the same about Sweden. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We are 1C warmer than before than everybody else too!
    How can there be more than one who is warming more than everybody else?

    1. Re: Odd, they say the same about Sweden. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We are 1C warmer than before than everybody else too!
      How can there be more than one who is warming more than everybody else?

      (1,2,3,4,5) has an average value of 3. All but one value is not 3. The largest number is nearly double the average. The smallest is a third of the average.

      Let's try another set
      (1,2,4,5) also has an average of three. Even though not a single item is a three. How can it be three everywhere if it isn't actually three anywhere?

      The title is

      Canada Warming Twice as Fast as the Rest of the World, Report Says

      If the rest of the world is rising at an average of 1*/decade or whatever, some parts are likely lower, which means some parts are higher. Canada is in the higher group. So is Sweden, and every other north polar region. Guess what, the middle and equatorial places are the laggards.

      Or, to out it another way. It's math. Git gud.

    2. Re: Odd, they say the same about Sweden. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Canada Warming Twice as Fast as the Rest of the World, Report Says" - Grammar, Git gud.

  18. Re:INB4 Justin Trudeau by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not 99%. There's a lot of disagreement among scientists about how the data is presented, and what it means. Dissenting voices are often shouted down or silenced through defunding, threats, blackballing and in some cases murder. Just because it's not funded by big oil doesn't automatically make it accurate or legitimate. There is a huge monetary and political motivation to push this dire narrative based on fear.

  19. Terrifying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is terrifying, and we need to take action now. If youâ(TM)re not a bot or a shill and youâ(TM)re reading this, please consider seriously what steps you can take in your life to help mitigate climate change. Also please ensure that meaningful action on climate change is a prerequisite to getting your vote in the upcoming election.

  20. Posting a story a second time... by neo-mkrey · · Score: 1

    Doesn't make more or less true.

  21. fuzzy math... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By this time tomorrow they will be 164Degrees -- Florida

  22. Duh ? by McCaskill · · Score: 1

    Where do they get their numbers from? I live in Canada and we had the coldest months ever. It is still in the 20s at the moment...

    1. Re:Duh ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If its in the 20s in Canada, thats awfully warm for this time of year. If you meant Fahrenheit, stipulate that. Metric is the default in Canada Eh. Oh, and weather != climate.

    2. Re:Duh ? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      That's like a summer day. I love how trolls forget that Canada has been metric for longer than they've been alive.

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    3. Re:Duh ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you tell people something often enough then the majority will believe it is a fact, even if it is a fabrication.

    4. Re:Duh ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      February was colder than normal, but November, December and January were all warmer. Winter as us Canadians have traditionally defined it lasted only one month this year.

    5. Re:Duh ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is funny how climate == weather over time , eh?

  23. Nope. That would make the term meaningless. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With your definition, "virtue signalling" is just a synonym for "conveying virtues in any way". Well, it's meaningless to have that definition.

    The term "virtue signalling" has a very particular meaning: It means "conveying virtues in a way that doesn't require you to make a sacrifice for the sake of promoting the virtue in question, or that relies on other people to make a sacrifice." For example, promoting the idea that the 3rd world should be imported into Canada because it's important to help people in need is virtue signalling, because the people who say and promote this idea are relying on poorer people to pay for this importation, and to live alongside 3rd world when it arrives.

    1. Re:Nope. That would make the term meaningless. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find virtue signaling revolting because its so counter productive. Making a sacrifice is stupid.

      Prior to Christianity, pagans would regularly make human sacrifices to try to "appease the gods," which is absolutely abhorrent. The story of Abraham tells us that God doesn't want human sacrifices. Abraham substituted sacrificing his son and instead sacrificed a ram, which is still really stupid, but at least it was a step in the right direction.

  24. Basic physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hot air rises. And there's a real blowhard underneath Canada.

  25. every summer will you ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    surely the Winter months reverse the effects of the Summer ones. be thankful you ve that for free, hen Central Air Conditiining is global it is the majority that complains of the thermostat the most.

  26. And THIS Is Why TRUMP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Canada is a deep freeze most of the year. Suicide is rampant. Depression an everyday happening. Canada says, "THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT! We own you!"

  27. Not a problem by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    It's not like Canada's vast arboreal forests will burn, it's frozen methane locked soils will release massive GHG emissions, and ...

    oh

    wait

    You're saying they have 85 percent of the world's fresh water supplies?

    Ooops.

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    1. Re:Not a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not like Canada's vast arboreal forests will burn, it's frozen methane locked soils will release massive GHG emissions, and ...

      Strange concept you have here about Canada having "arboreal forests". FYI the BOREAL FOREST stretches around the Northern Hemisphere and is not just largest living carbon sink on the planet it is also a very important moderator of climate because of the nature of the colour green and the patches of white that reflect solar radiation back into space. Currently there has been a huge die off of two needle pine that started in British Columbia and is a harbinger of things to come as the climate changes. We really do not know the full consequences of losing huge swathes of pine trees, but we can guess that the land will not hold rain water and snow cover as efficiently. There are already tremendous changes to the Fraser River system in as much as during the early Salmon runs the water is too warm and is causing large reductions of fish that reach the spawning grounds.

      The ignorance of Americans and to a large extent Canadians that dwell in metropolitan areas and spout off about climate change and have never stepped foot in the Boreal Forest never ceases to amaze me. Even the trolls here on ./ are by and large completely ignorant of what is really going on in the North. THE NORTH INCLUDES MUCH MORE THAN JUST CANADA!!!

  28. i think Slashdot is an improvemet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we need go back to the foundations of Slashdot. the 90's. Cell phone trch i a knockoff ofthe same passive-cooled theme.

    a heatsink on everything. if it needs a fan then it deserves to burn.

  29. Same Story? by raftpeople · · Score: 1

    Is it really the same story? or is it a unique instance of this story?

  30. Re:INB4 Justin Trudeau by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are so right. I find it very troubling that politicians and special interest groups are pushing to get what that want using fake science and fear. Most people have not even read the reports and take it as the holy gospel.

    It looks like homework done by a high school student. Where is the actual research. What are the methods used in their assumptions and forecast modelling. They present low emissions and high emissions scenarios and indicate that in 100 years if you follow the high emissions model temperatures will rise by 15 degrees.

    What nonsense.

    Without any real substantive data, procedures, observations to support your conclusions how can they even claim it is scientific.

    Not to mention the timing. Lets release a paper stating the Apocalypse is here on the same day we impose carbon taxes.

    At least Trudeau will be gone soon.

  31. Re:INB4 Justin Trudeau by barakn · · Score: 1

    More paranoid babbling from the lunatic fringe.

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  32. excellent by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

    Day of the rake soon

  33. Re:INB4 Justin Trudeau by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    100% of the science that isn't funded by big oil...

    Posting anonymously to avoid undoing previous moderations. I wonder: does the posting AC realizes that this is just a twist on the 'appeal to authority' logical fallacy?

  34. Re:INB4 Justin Trudeau by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More paranoid babbling from the lunatic fringe.

    Yep. You'd think they'd get tired of beating this alarmist drum.

  35. I trust this study by raymorris · · Score: 1

    According to this study, Canada is warming much faster than the US.
    Canada has much much liberaliam than the US.
    Thesis: Liberalism causes climate change.

  36. Good for them, more habitable areas, then by ffkom · · Score: 1

    Looks like large areas of land will turn from freezing to much more friendly temperatures, then. And more space for agriculture, too.

    1. Re:Good for them, more habitable areas, then by neurocutie · · Score: 1

      "Looks like large areas of land will turn from freezing to much more friendly temperatures, then. And more space for agriculture, too."

      I'm sure the Russians will appreciate these features of the land as they invade from the now indefensible northern border...

    2. Re:Good for them, more habitable areas, then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The main reason why no one lives in northern Canada is not the temperature, but rather the fact that there is no soil. You can't grow crops on the Canadian shield nor in muskeg.

    3. Re:Good for them, more habitable areas, then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The main reason why no one lives in northern Canada is not the temperature, but rather the fact that there is no soil. You can't grow crops on the Canadian shield nor in muskeg.

      Hey! don't spoil the fools logic with the facts, the ignorance of the statement that as the north warms it will produce farm land is a common myth that is spread by idiots who know squat about ecology and the north. It warms their hearts to think that by chipping their pickup and spewing a butt tonne of carbon out the tail pipe they are creating more farm land in Canada!

  37. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trudeau-hot air reference....

  38. I keep telling my wife.... by filesiteguy · · Score: 1

    ...we need to buy some beach property in British Colombia and setup a summer resort. Can't wait for the tourists to stop heading to Hawaii and Tahiti.

    1. Re:I keep telling my wife.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just don't buy too close to the ocean, or it might be underwater.

      Also waterfront in BC already costs more than Hawaii...

    2. Re:I keep telling my wife.... by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Buy property in Calgary too, just in case the big one hits.

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  39. Re: INB4 Justin Trudeau by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Odd that you dismiss science paid for by Petroleum Companies because itâ(TM)s biased but you donâ(TM)t dismiss science paid for by Governments for the same reason. Odd
    Also, a global phenomenon that would be caused by a heat capture in the upper atmosphere haveing only localized surface effect with no global upper atmosphere increase at all. Odd

  40. Abraham sacrificed his son's penis. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To please the Creator of the entire Universe, Abraham cut a chunk of flesh from his son's sexual organ. Creep.

  41. yeah right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    only fucking idiots believe the planet is warming. it is coolong.

  42. Climate Models Predict faster Warming up North by tinkerton · · Score: 1

    The weather models predict that in the north the temperature will rise much faster than world averages, while at the equator it will be slower. So the warming up of Canada is entirely predictable.

  43. Blame Canada... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See title and act accordingly.

  44. It also happens elsewhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For example, free speechers use the Voltair quote but they don't merely not fight to protect the right to protest for, say Occupy Wall Street, they actively HATE the people for doing it. It's virtue signalling since they can "stick up" for free speech AND look "smart" without having to do any of the actual, well, fighting for others' rights.

  45. Because Trump, Shrub et al are enviros? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The government paid ones are paid whatever their research results in, but petroleum workers will be sacked or their research quashed (you DO know that Exxon had researchers confirming AGW in the 90s, right, but quashed it so it was only found out after a court case got the judge to demand the info be released). If you "think" that the government scientists will lie to enable government to "take away muh freedums!", then
    a) they can do that REAL easy through countless methods. E.g. claim there's a massive caravan of criminals coming from south america
    b) most government officials want bribes from the corporations, so want to avoid any attempt to harm their bottom line by lying about AGW if it were a lie. See the Deepwater Horizon debacle with a senator apologising to the BP chairman for having to answer questions for his part in the catastrophe.

  46. You realise that isn't what it is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it were a fallacy it would have to be the poisoning the well fallacy, not appeal to authority one. Moreover, the claim that it IS a fallacy would be the fallacists fallacy. Appealing to authority is not fallacious, otherwise you'd be a dumbass for going to the doctors for your broken fingers or a car mechanic for the noises your car makes.

  47. Sacrifices after christianity too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the secular laws against slaughter, even if god tells you to, that stopped christians YOU know from doing it. Go to where the Christians aren't shackled by secular law, like some African countries. They sacrifice there too.

  48. glace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's been too cold to snow in Canada for many millennia. That's all changing now with the melting of the arctic ice and the availability of open water to provide snow like in the last ice age.

  49. Economy by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    The sad part is, America and China are too addicted to "strong economies" to do anything about this in any meaningful way.

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  50. By "secular laws" you mean "white culture" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what you mean, and you're not wrong.

  51. Looks like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Six weeks of poor skiing.

  52. "suffrage" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That word doesn't mean what you appear to think it means - there *is* universal suffrage in Venezuela, but that's not a bad thing.

  53. Déjà vu by maxbuzz · · Score: 0

    Man made climate change causes increase feelings of Déjà vu

  54. Re:In before Kendall's boring lies and FUD by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Who gives a fuck? Quite frankly, what's that have to do with this story? Or anything, for that matter.

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  55. Re:In before Kendall's boring lies and FUD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The character of Kendall is a symptom of the disease that has been killing Slashdot since it was sold off the first time. The influx of rabid mobs, large sections of which are trolls for special interests including aggressive state propaganda agencies. Kendall has positioned himself as a useful idiot or worse. His utter fabrications and nearly uniform misconception of everything in the world imply that he is either deluded to the point of required institutionalization or is a paid provocateur destroying and distracting for hire.

  56. Fastest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...fastest rate of ethnic change in the world."

    Really? You sure about that? I'll bet that the native tribes of Canada would disagree, from roughly 500-100 years ago.

    Anyhow you are free to leave. In fact I invite you to do so.

  57. Don't confuse climate with weather! by Cowardly+Lurker · · Score: 1

    weather: the state of the atmosphere with respect to heat or cold, wetness or dryness, calm or storm, clearness or cloudiness
    climate: the average course or condition of the weather at a place usually over a period of years as exhibited by temperature, wind velocity, and precipitation

    In simple terms, it is average (climate) vs point-in-time (weather) conditions.

    So climate change means there is a difference in the average weather conditions of a given place and time period versus a different time period, same place.
    Comparing the climate of differing places is not climate change. I suppose it should probably be called place change. Again, in simple terms, climate change involves the climate of the same area, different times.

    However, the time periods must not be too short or too long. After all, a short period is by definition not climate. On the other hand, if the period is too long then you have nothing to compare. You cannot find a difference if the time period extends back to the formation of the Earth. Therefore, to find climate change you must select from time periods that show a difference. Make sure you do it scientifically! Facts matter! Context... not so much.