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Satellite Airliner Tracking Over Oceans Goes Global (bbc.com)

dryriver shares a report from the BBC: Tracking airplanes anywhere in the world just got a lot easier. The U.S. firm Aireon says its new satellite surveillance network is now fully live and being trialled over the North Atlantic. The system employs a constellation of 66 (Iridium) spacecraft, which monitor the situational messages pumped out by aircraft transponders. These report a plane's position, altitude, direction and speed every eight seconds. The two big navigation management companies that marshal plane movements across the North Atlantic -- UK Nats and Nav Canada -- intend to use Aireon to transform their operations. The more detailed information they now have about the behavior of airplanes means more efficient routing can be introduced. This ought to reduce costs for airlines. Passengers should also experience fewer delays. Aireon has receivers riding piggyback on all 66 spacecraft of the Iridium sat-phone service provider. These sensors make it possible now to track planes even out over the ocean, beyond the visibility of radar -- and ocean waters cover 70% of the globe. The rapid-fire nature of the messaging also means aircraft visibility is virtually continuous. Existing data links only report ocean-crossing aircraft positions every 14 minutes. '

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  1. ships have almost real-time tracking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    It seems ships have had a decent tracking system in place for a while now. See https://www.marinetraffic.com/ .. many update every 2 minutes.
    With planes I could track almost real-time a relative's long-haul flight. So something already exists for aircraft too. The change here must therefore be that the ping is wired-in mandatory and not subject to a pilot flipping the switch to off.

    1. Re:ships have almost real-time tracking by r2kordmaa · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Any radio must have an hard off switch. What do you do when radio malfunctions and starts smoking or broadcasting gobbledygook all over the spectrum? That happens a lot more often than pilot maliciously turning transponder off and wanting to fly all sneaky like. By the way, if a pilot decides to suicide by crashing an airplane, then knowing where the plane is doesn't really help you, you still can't do squat about it.

      What this system provides is global coverage of ADS-B receivers, that's all.

  2. With the usual exemptions... by thesjaakspoiler · · Score: 2

    >US and European regulators have mandated all aircraft carry this equipment as of next year. Surely with the exception of all military planes, a bunch of CIA-owned planes and a bunch of private planes owned by the dark state puppet masters.

  3. Re:Excellent. VERY much needed. by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 3, Informative

    In principle, once you have the continuous communication anywhere in the world, you can program the transponders to start churning out black-box type telemetry whenever a dangerous anomalous condition is detected in the plane (e.g. stall, upset, fire.) So it is a somewhat separate issue, rather than a completely separate issue.

    Such emergency uploads aren't going to eliminate the need for black boxes: the bandwidth won't be available to transmit everything, and sometimes the vital clue is something that happened 30 minutes before the crash. (And sometimes the interval between detecting 'something is wrong' and total destruction is a few seconds.)

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  4. Re:That was quick by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2

    They’ve had it in some form for over a decade but it was an option and not standard. It’s how they knew where Air France 447 crashed in the Atlantic Ocean.

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  5. Really? by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

    The satellites rely on planes transponders. The MH370 had its transponder disabled, and that network wouldn't have helped.

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  6. Re:That was quick by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 2

    Everyone likes options.

    If I'm on a plane over the ocean and the transponder starts arcing and smoking I sure as hell want the cockpit to have the "option" to pull a breaker and kill electric power to it.

    The flight crew should have control over every system on an aircraft I'm on, full stop.

    It's no different from the fact that the cockpit can switch off all the engines if they deem it necessary.