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A Suite of Digital Cryptography Tools, Released Today, Has Been Mathematically Proven To Be Completely Secure and Free of Bugs (quantamagazine.org)

By making programming more mathematical, a community of computer scientists is hoping to eliminate the coding bugs that can open doors to hackers, spill digital secrets and generally plague modern society. From a report: Now a set of computer scientists has taken a major step toward this goal with the release today of EverCrypt, a set of digital cryptography tools. The researchers were able to prove -- in the sense that you can prove the Pythagorean theorem -- that their approach to online security is completely invulnerable to the main types of hacking attacks that have felled other programs in the past. "When we say proof, we mean we prove that our code can't suffer these kinds of attacks," said Karthik Bhargavan, a computer scientist at Inria in Paris who worked on EverCrypt.

EverCrypt was not written the way most code is written. Ordinarily, a team of programmers creates software that they hope will satisfy certain objectives. Once they finish, they test the code. If it accomplishes the objectives without showing any unwanted behavior, the programmers conclude that the software does what it's supposed to do. Yet coding errors often manifest only in extreme "corner cases" -- a perfect storm of unlikely events that reveals a critical vulnerability. Many of the most damaging hacking attacks in recent years have exploited just such corner cases.

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  1. Completely secure and free of bugs. by olsmeister · · Score: 5, Funny

    Until it's installed on a computer that uses an Intel (tm) processor, that is....

    1. Re:Completely secure and free of bugs. by Red_Forman · · Score: 4, Informative

      I am guessing you never used earlier Windows versions.

    2. Re: Completely secure and free of bugs. by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      They claim to have no memory bugs. It was written in F* and compiled to C.

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    3. Re:Completely secure and free of bugs. by tepples · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I can imagine a mathematical formalism where every instantiation of a secret key must result in calling a destructor that securely zeroes the key.

    4. Re: Completely secure and free of bugs. by tysonedwards · · Score: 2

      Itâ(TM)s more that an operating system installed on billions of devices with billions of daily users experiencing pain points of the same bugs and vulnerabilities for decades should not have an unexposed attack surface left and all around be sufficiently hardened.

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    5. Re:Completely secure and free of bugs. by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 3, Informative

      Incredible...I could actually hear the eyes of everyone who suffered through Windows ME rolling at that.

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    6. Re:Completely secure and free of bugs. by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2

      That's what the "integrity" part of encryption does: if you can only interact with a program via an encrypted stream, authenticated by public key, and the encryption code to decrypt and verify authenticity and integrity of the message is faultless, then you know that only those authenticated to the system can attack all other parts of the system. Your attack surface and threat actor set is minimized.

  2. Really, proven free of bugs? by JoeyRox · · Score: 3, Funny
  3. But how do you prove the proof by XXongo · · Score: 2

    Interesting, but how do you prove the proof?

    1. Re:But how do you prove the proof by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Generally, you fall back to some very axioms that everyone agrees on. That's the way math works.

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    2. Re:But how do you prove the proof by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Informative

      If it comes from a theorem prover, and includes a trace of the proof, then it can be checked with a proof checker. Proof checkers are generally much simpler than theorem provers, because they only need to mechanically check that the proof trace is consistent, whereas a theorem prover has to *find* that trace. Worst case is that you check the steps yourself.

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    3. Re: But how do you prove the proof by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      It's still how math works. You can't prove everything true based on axioms (as Godel showed), but in practice we just don't prove those things. We prove what we can.

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    4. Re:But how do you prove the proof by omnichad · · Score: 2

      You just aggressively claim it's true and that it proves itself. Otherwise known as a toutology.

      Yes, I know that was a bad joke.

  4. Re:Sidechannel attacks don't exist mathematically by alvinrod · · Score: 2, Informative

    But that's a security issue in the hardware itself. Would you claim that their program is insecure if you had a hardware system that allowed any program full access to the memory of any other program? Of course not, you'd point out that nothing could be considered secure when running on such a system so the question itself is flawed.

  5. Yes, the code is right, only the code. Not "secure by raymorris · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's true. One can prove that a particular function is correct, that their code is correct. In this case, library code.

    Proving the CPU hardware and microcode is a separate step. Proving the code that USES their library is yet another thing.

    All of these can be done. It's just expensive, so you use the simplest thing that will get the job done - prove a little MCU used as a cryto co-processor, not a complex Intel CPU.

  6. The interesting bit... by ath1901 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's the interesting bit about what they actually did:

    The platform needed the capacity of a traditional software language like C++ and the logical syntax and structure of proof-assistant programs like Isabelle and Coq, which mathematicians have been using for years. No such all-in-one platform existed when the researchers started work on EverCrypt, so they developed one — a programming language called F*. It put the math and the software on equal footing.

    “We unified these things into a single coherent framework so that the distinction between writing programs and doing proofs is really reduced,” said Bhargavan. “You can write software as if you were a software developer, but at same time you can write a proof as if you were a theoretician.”

    1. Re:The interesting bit... by Anubis+IV · · Score: 3, Funny

      F* (pronounced "F star") was the grade my university would give to students who failed a course, but not just for any failure. The F* grade was reserved for those who cheated on an exam, plagiarized papers, or were otherwise caught engaging in unethical behavior. It was a scarlet letter that went on their official transcript, forever branding them as someone you couldn't trust (or as someone who wasn't competent enough to NOT get caught, depending on your outlook).

      As a result, it's kinda hard for me to shake the feeling that there's something untrustworthy about this software.

  7. Re:Sidechannel attacks don't exist mathematically by Red_Forman · · Score: 2

    If a CPU tells you that 1+1=3, does this mean the math is faulty or the CPU failed?

  8. Re:Naive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    From the article:

    Yet while EverCrypt is provably immune to many types of attacks, it does not herald an era of perfectly secure software. Protzenko noted there will always be attacks that no one has thought of before. EverCrypt can’t be proven secure against those, if only for the simple reason that no one knows what they will be.

  9. KreMLin by dcollins117 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Couldn't help but notice the code is built with a compiler named "KreMLin". Isn't that interesting.

  10. First, we posit a spherical cow... by karlandtanya · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's possible to be mathematically perfect...in fact, mathematically is pretty much the only way to be "completely" or "perfectly" anything.

    The basic problem with mathematical proofs is that math is an abstraction (the model), and the perfect-and-complete nature of the proof can *only* ever apply to the abstraction. The degree of fidelity to which the model reproduces your particular real situation is another story. Mathematically proving your solution is perfect not meaningful by itself.

    It's a huge red flag the the vendor in this ad is directing our attention to a meaningless mathematical proof of perfection in their product. This strongly suggests to me that there is no valid reason to trust their design.

    Even if we stipulate a "perfect" set of cryptographic algorithms implemented in a mathematically "perfect" set of code, the solution is meaningless without proper implementation and user procedures.

    For example: I've got a great VPN (it uses OpenVPN), but when it fails, all my traffic is suddenly exposed. So I adjust my firewall rules so the only traffic allowed besides that needed to establish the vpn link must go through through tun0. Or use wireguard instead. Until next week when I'm in a factory and I need to talk to some PLCs or I/O modules to configure them, then I turn off the firewall or use the "factory" instead of the "office" setting. Now I have to remember to turn it on again or I won't be protected. etc. etc. etc.

    There are no "magic bullets", and somebody claiming to have one has just saved you the trouble of evaluating them any further.

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    1. Re:First, we posit a spherical cow... by gweihir · · Score: 2

      The basic problem with mathematical proofs is that math is an abstraction (the model), and the perfect-and-complete nature of the proof can *only* ever apply to the abstraction.

      And that is exactly it. Anybody claiming to have shown any real world properties are mathematically proven is either incompetent or a liar or both.

      The degree of fidelity to which the model reproduces your particular real situation is another story. Mathematically proving your solution is perfect not meaningful by itself.

      It's a huge red flag the the vendor in this ad is directing our attention to a meaningless mathematical proof of perfection in their product. This strongly suggests to me that there is no valid reason to trust their design.

      In fact there is strong reason to _not_ trust them. They are lying by misdirection about the security. They may lie about other things as well.

      Even if we stipulate a "perfect" set of cryptographic algorithms implemented in a mathematically "perfect" set of code, the solution is meaningless without proper implementation and user procedures.

      For example: I've got a great VPN (it uses OpenVPN), but when it fails, all my traffic is suddenly exposed. So I adjust my firewall rules so the only traffic allowed besides that needed to establish the vpn link must go through through tun0. Or use wireguard instead. Until next week when I'm in a factory and I need to talk to some PLCs or I/O modules to configure them, then I turn off the firewall or use the "factory" instead of the "office" setting. Now I have to remember to turn it on again or I won't be protected. etc. etc. etc.

      There are no "magic bullets", and somebody claiming to have one has just saved you the trouble of evaluating them any further.

      Indeed. Run screaming or start laughing. But do _not_ buy the snake-oil they are selling.

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    2. Re: First, we posit a spherical cow... by c6gunner · · Score: 2

      For example: I've got a great VPN (it uses OpenVPN), but when it fails, all my traffic is suddenly exposed. So I adjust my firewall rules so the only traffic allowed besides that needed to establish the vpn link must go through through tun0. Or use wireguard instead. Until next week when I'm in a factory and I need to talk to some PLCs or I/O modules to configure them, then I turn off the firewall or use the "factory" instead of the "office" setting. Now I have to remember to turn it on again or I won't be protected. etc. etc. etc.

      You could just configure your firewall to exclude private subnets from the rule in the first place. Or if that's too insecure for your needs, add exclusions on a per-IP basis only when you need them (you can even give them an automatic timeout using ipset, so you don't have to remember to remove them). Or have a completely separate interface (USB Ethernet or wireless) which is exempted from the firewall rules, and use that when you don't want to route through your VPN.

      I agree, though, that the "just turn it off for now" mentality tends to cause a lot of security issues. That's exactly why you should plan ahead and implement one of the solutions I've listed above, instead.

    3. Re:First, we posit a spherical cow... by jbengt · · Score: 2

      Anybody claiming to have shown any real world properties are mathematically proven is either incompetent or a liar or both.

      Not that it automatically makes them competent or truth-tellers or both, but they haven't done that in TFA. They claim they have mathematically proved that their code is secure against known attacks. Code is math so it is subject to mathematical proof. TFA didn;t include the proof, and I'm not sure that I could follow it, anyway, but a lot of posts here are assuming they claimed perfect security if you run their code, when they specifically and explicitly stated otherwise.

      Indeed. Run screaming or start laughing. But do _not_ buy the snake-oil they are selling.

      Or, spend some time reading RTFA before getting hysterical.

  11. Re:Yes, the code is right, only the code. Not "sec by skids · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Proving the code that USES their library is yet another thing.

    That's the rub. There will be some wrapper written to make parameter exchange automatic, or facilitate finding a VPN gateway, or whatnot, and it'll undo all the hard work in a few lines of hastily coded VB.

    There's a hard and fast requisit for establishing a MITM-proof crypto channel: you have to exchange some keying material safely... whether that's through a CA system or a preshared key or whatever, it simply must be done... and the users will choose the software which skips that step because someone assured them it is taken care of automagically, and well heck, that's much easier.

  12. Re:Yes, the code is right, only the code. Not "sec by lgw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It' impossible to prove that your crypto library is invulnerable to side-channel attacks. It is possible, however, to prove it's not vulnerable to common side-channel attacks. That's not nothing.

    Their marketing hyperbole is so over the top, however, that I wouldn't trust them with anything.

    A big problem in general in software crypto is that it's impossible to prove that the random/entropy source provided by the processor is good. There's no software work-around to that - oh, you can try to use I/O timings and so on, but those can be manipulated. Even if the code that generates the mask that is used in the fab is proven correct, we know the NSA is capable of tampering with the mask between code and fab.

    After the Snowden revelations were understood, paranoid crytpo guys reached the point of "I can't only trust a hardware entropy source that I build myself from components I bought myself in person from a random store." That's not exactly productizable, but it's a fair assessment of the threat of the NSA.

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  13. Re:Bullshit by CyberSlugGump · · Score: 3, Funny

    Reminds me of the famous Donald Knuth quotation: Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it.

  14. Formal verification finally coming of age? by bradley13 · · Score: 2

    Formal verification has huge potential, and can (theoretically, at least), be applied to any software that doesn't have side effects (which mainly means: everything is an input or output parameter - no GUIs, no external input/output, etc..). It's really cool to have something significant that has been formally verified.

    That said, formal verification still only takes you so far. There is no way for them to have proven immunity to side channels, or immunity to processor vulnerabilities, or even immunity to brute-force attacks. So this is an important battle, but it doesn't automatically win the war.

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  15. Re:Bullshit by Nkwe · · Score: 2

    While you probably can't prove that the compiler will do what you think it will do, and you probably can't prove that the CPU will execute the compiled code the way you think it will, could you prove that your source code does not have a specific set of common developer introduced programming errors? A quick scan of the article seemed to indicate that this was the actual claim. While not earth shattering, it does seem useful.

  16. Re:Bullshit by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    Of course there is. Code is executed in a logical way. Saying their code is mathematically free of bugs is both valid and provable. Now whether the compiled result, the platform or hardware allows an exploit to run on the final binary is a completely different argument.

  17. Re:Proof that it works as intended ... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 2

    I don't see why the NSA would care. They can already get your passwords anyway. My guess is that, if they wanted to, they would just look at every key I type into my computer and save all that data. Which includes my passwords. They could do it by changing my hardware, or putting cameras in my house, or various known remote attacks. Or failing that they could use a wrench to get the passwords out of me.

    Protecting yourself from state level actors is too damn difficult for an individual to do.

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  18. Re:Yes, the code is right, only the code. Not "sec by ljw1004 · · Score: 2

    Their marketing hyperbole is so over the top, however, that I wouldn't trust them with anything.

    Really? What is the "marketing hyperbole" you're talking about? The only hypebole I've seen in this case comes from journalists.

  19. Re:Yes, the code is right, only the code. Not "sec by Joce640k · · Score: 2

    That's true. One can prove that a particular function is correct, that their code is correct. In this case, library code.

    Crypto library code is very linear, no conditionals, just a sequence of math operations. I don't think it's hard to prove correctness.

    This is just marketing wank.

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  20. Re:With Goedel's incompleteness theorem. by k2r · · Score: 3, Informative

    [ ] you understood G”oels incompleteness theorem

  21. Re:Yes, the code is right, only the code. Not "sec by raymorris · · Score: 2

    Not disagreeing, just clarifying.

    Yes you can prove that it is unaffected by known, enumerated side-channel attacks in the processor / chipset.

    You can't prove it would be unaffected by unknown CPU side-channel.

    ALSO you can prove that there are no side channels in the code itself - you can enumerate the state parameters which affect the functioning of the code, both internal and external state parameters.

    The distinction becomes important when you start proving more than one component of the system. If you prove the library code - including against aide channels in the code, and you prove any kernel - including kernel side channels, and you prove the microcode - including microcode side channels, and you prove the hardware - including hardware side-channels, then you've proved the system to be free of side channels, and the application code, then you've proved the system.

    In proving the system, you prove that the output state is identical *per the specification*. If you specify "identical state" as high and low CMOS output, you'll have no side channels re high vs low - but you could still have a high at 3.28 volts vs a high at 3.29 volts.

  22. Looking at project on Github by mrlinux11 · · Score: 2

    I found this issue on github and it appears they are not as good as claimed, this is a security 101 mistake. "Currently the generated C functions don't check for the proper length of the input arrays. Indeed the user can read it from the original F* code, but when they make a mistake the code still executes and reports success (like in #53 ). Would be possible to add bound checks on inputs and return an error code (like 1 in case of aead_encrypt "

  23. Re:Sidechannel attacks don't exist mathematically by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes.

  24. Obligatory XKCD: by captaindomon · · Score: 2
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  25. So when it IS cracked by petes_PoV · · Score: 2
    ... that will cast doubt on every other cryptographic proof.

    If you were going to wave a rag in front of the hacker "bull" then claiming some code was proven secure is just the way to do it.

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    1. Re:So when it IS cracked by swillden · · Score: 2

      ... that will cast doubt on every other cryptographic proof.

      If you were going to wave a rag in front of the hacker "bull" then claiming some code was proven secure is just the way to do it.

      Sure, and when some clever hacker shows that there are right triangles whose legs can be squared and summed to something other than the square of the hypotenuse, it will cast doubt on every other mathematical proof.

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  26. Re: Yes, the code is right, only the code. Not "se by lgw · · Score: 2

    Consider the case where the guy is working for the NSA out of college, and then, as an NSA employee, applies to Intel or whoever in hopes of getting into position to make such a change. He has a bright future within the NSA, and a second income for a while.

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  27. Re: Naive by jazzoslav · · Score: 2

    The mathematical proof must be translated into code. You're either dumb or naive if you think that can be done flawlessly.

  28. Re:I'd like to learn something by rockmuelle · · Score: 2

    TFA actually does a good job of discussing it in layman's terms. It's surprisingly devoid of hype and hyperbole.

    As a starting point that's not TFA, Formal Verification is the sub-field of CS that this is based on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    -Chris

  29. memset_s by tepples · · Score: 2

    C++ compiler: object is never read from after being zeroed, thus by the abstract machine specification the last write does not lead to any observable behaviour and can be skipped.

    It isn't skipped if the program uses the memset_s defined in C11 to modulate the compiler's inference that the zeroing "does not lead to any observable behaviour".

    Java JIT: No reads between zeroing and freeing/next writes, skip zero writes. This is an important optimization since by specification all objects are zero initialized, leading to large amounts of overhead if the writes cannot be skipped.

    Even if the char[] holding the secret's UTF-16 encoding is cleared by by Arrays.fill method? Oracle itself uses this in its example for Swing JPasswordField .

    Any modern OS: let me copy that buffer to the swap file.

    A modern OS denies reading swap by nonadministrators within the OS and encrypts swap to protect it from reading outside the OS.

    Any SSD: you want to override this? Lets do some wear levelling and overwrite that other location instead.

    It's as if you think disk encryption is impossible.