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Social Media Bosses Could Be Liable For Harmful Content, Leaked UK Plan Reveals (theguardian.com)
The United Kingdom is working on legislation that would hold social media executives liable for harmful content distributed on their platforms. The leaked white paper comes less than 24 hours after Australia passed sweeping legislation that threatens huge fines for social media companies and jail for their executives if they fail to rapidly remove "abhorrent violent material" from their platforms. From the report: Under plans expected to be published on Monday, the government will legislate for a new statutory duty of care, to be policed by an independent regulator and likely to be funded through a levy on media companies. The regulator -- likely initially to be Ofcom, but in the longer term a new body -- will have the power to impose substantial fines against companies that breach their duty of care and to hold individual executives personally liable.
The scope of the recommendations is broad. As well as social media platforms such as Facebook and search engines such as Google they take in online messaging services and file hosting sites. Other proposals in the online harm white paper include:
- Government powers to direct the regulator on specific issues such as terrorist activity or child sexual exploitation.
- Annual "transparency reports" from social media companies, disclosing the prevalence of harmful content on their platforms and what they are doing to combat it.
- Co-operation with police and other enforcement agencies on illegal harms, such as incitement of violence and the sale of illegal weapons. "Companies will be asked to comply with a code of practice, setting out what steps they are taking to ensure that they meet the duty of care -- including by designing products and platforms to make them safer, and pointing users who have suffered harm towards support," the report says. "The code of practice is also likely to include the steps companies will be expected to take to combat disinformation, including by using fact-checking services, particularly during election periods, and improving the transparency of political advertising. Regulated firms will be expected to comply with the code of practice -- or explain what other steps they are taking to meet the duty of care. However, many questions are left to the regulator to determine."
The scope of the recommendations is broad. As well as social media platforms such as Facebook and search engines such as Google they take in online messaging services and file hosting sites. Other proposals in the online harm white paper include:
- Government powers to direct the regulator on specific issues such as terrorist activity or child sexual exploitation.
- Annual "transparency reports" from social media companies, disclosing the prevalence of harmful content on their platforms and what they are doing to combat it.
- Co-operation with police and other enforcement agencies on illegal harms, such as incitement of violence and the sale of illegal weapons. "Companies will be asked to comply with a code of practice, setting out what steps they are taking to ensure that they meet the duty of care -- including by designing products and platforms to make them safer, and pointing users who have suffered harm towards support," the report says. "The code of practice is also likely to include the steps companies will be expected to take to combat disinformation, including by using fact-checking services, particularly during election periods, and improving the transparency of political advertising. Regulated firms will be expected to comply with the code of practice -- or explain what other steps they are taking to meet the duty of care. However, many questions are left to the regulator to determine."
a new statutory duty of care, to be policed by an independent regulator and likely to be funded through a levy on media companies
Unfortunately the modern educational system couldn't completely strip you of your humanity and free thought, so it's come to this now.
Really, it's for your own good though. That's why we insist you pay for it.
Don't you get it? They're working their way up.
Don't you get it? They're working their way up.
Go and amend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... - it's got a long tradition.
Social Media is simply not a part of my existence, unless you broadly include Slashdot... though I suspect that might qualify as antisocial media.
But. Asking the social media sites to duplicate the work the police are already doing on the internet interdicting terrorism, child exploitation, violence, and illegal weapons trafficking is absurd. The internet, and in particular social media, is the greatest thing to happen to law enforcement in a generation... the idiots catch themselves.
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Freedom after speech.
The freedom of the press.
To publish and comment.
Is a movie review about an actors skills abhorrent material? The political nature of the low quality SJW script?
Is abhorrent for Catalonia to be mentioned in a way Spain finds not legal?
Would Argentina like to correct the history of the Falkland Islands?
Germany like to filter all history, art and political news about Germany? No commenting on the results illegal immigration into Germany?
Do French political leaders not like funny cartoons? No funny political memes about France?
Would a faith find blasphemy to be abhorrent material?
A cult would see their protected teachings online line for free as abhorrent?
Undercover filming/photography of US farms is an abhorrent act in some US states? UK to remove that US news too?
Talking about DRM removal?
Talking about junk and weak crypto math passed for consumer use by the intelligence services?
Comments on UK whistleblower material?
The role of the SAS, MI5/6 in Ireland and the UK?
So much people/mil/gov/lawyers/faiths/cults/NGO's/think tanks/NATO would find abhorrent material.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
At least a little.
-- Weird Al Yankovic in "Word Crimes"
Reminds me of the bad old days of AOL when they tried to regulate sex stuff, so breast cancer survivors had to rename themselves as hooter cancer survivors so they wouldn't get auto-flagged for inappropriate content...
It's not "social media companies", it's a very small cartel of incumbents who see this as a beautiful way to prevent any competition.
Only criminals eat food that requires a knife.
Buffoons... your own government is hell bent on censorship and steady de-evolution into a police state.
Getting out of the EU isn't going to spare a single one of you from your fate.
Facebook can afford the team go implement their Censorship Rules, and Google already has a team to work with China's. /. can't afford similar.
After spending trillions from our coffers and millions of lives to fight tyranny in the 20th century, we have become our own worst enemy. We don't support our best institutions, we betray our heritage, we don't have children and expect migrants to do our dirty work for us.
End of an era. You will miss it when it's gone. The future belongs to those who show up for it. The power struggles of the next century will be awful and may surpass the 20th century in death toll.
Captcha: phosgene. How appropriate.
Muslims rape young girls and get away with it in the UK.
Now for sure you're gonna get shut down. That's hate speech even though its true.
I hate censorship. I also hate social media which has done nothing but push censorship. I say let them burn. Push people to the dark web, beyond the grasp of either Google or Uncle Sam/Sister May.
Leave some pork at a mosque, go to prison.
Rape a child, get charges dropped if you're muslim.
Such a great empire.
Canada recently threatened google with punitive legilastion over bad press of the Tredau government. They literally called it "hatespeech" and made threats that google should remove these bad "press" items from searches. We are now in 1984 ladies and gentleman.. prepare for urine samples to be collected in the morning.
When Tony Blair finally became PM he did two things first. 1) killed the house cat. 2) Invited Thatcher to be his first visitor at no.10 (and NO, she was not his predecessor- that was the ex-circus performer that replaced Thatcher as head of the Conservative party.)
The voters had thought they had empowered the exact opposite of the Tories- but Blair proudly demonstrated to the nation that as bad as the authoratarian Conservatives had been, he would be a million times worse.
Blair tore the power structure of Britain to shreds, and placed his loyalists into every aspect of power- way beyond party politics. But Blairites would rise to power and take control of the THREE major political parties, Conservatives, Liberals and labour of course. In power, Blair began the Orwellian remodelling of Britain.
Today Blair operates at a planetry level, where his loyalists have taken power in most major nations (which is why you had so much Trump hate when Blair's appointed horror, Clinton, failed to win- the Democrat and Republican parties are 100% controlled by Blairites). In the UK his proxies head essentially everything. There is a lasting public hatred of Blair in the UK, so Blair only has to put his name in public to the OPPOSITE of what he desires there (like Blair saying he is against 'brexit'), so anti-Blair sentiment gets the sheeple behind what he wants in the first place.
Social control is a key plank in the demonic Blair's greater plan. Blair's 'Academy' schools indoctrinate millions of UK kids. Censorship and total surveillance are Blair's go-to methods.
Social media giants were always part of the Blair plan. Hook the vast majority of users in centralised services and then bring down governmental regulation of said services. Today anything outside of the giants are backwaters with handfulls of users. Even Dissenter shows insanely tiny numbers of forum users on its busiest forums compared to even obscure forums on Reddit.
Today there is no need for Blair's people to worry about 'alternative' Internet sites when so few people use them. The giants have vacuumed the majority of online Humanity into easily controlled and regulated arenas. But Blair's team had to wait for the true giants to arise and addict the numbers they have done. And this needed the ole 'bait and switch'- a nursery slope 'wild west' to entice the sheeple before the Orwellian regulation hit.
Better again were the fools who wanted to speak to wide audiences, but used the infrastrucure of the giants rather that building their own. Now these people are 'deplatformed' for 'wrongthink', and if they all too late try to form their own platforms, almost no-one follows them.
Sites like Slashdot inform the sheeple that they MUST trust the mass media outlets that all spread Tony Blair's lies about WMD in Iraq. Because after all it is only 'logical' to trust sources scientifically proven to be the world's most co-ordinated liars.
Freedom of speech- dead.
Freedom of assembly- dead
Freedom of conscience- dead (in the UK, kids from 'muslim' families are taught at school they must remain 'muslims' because only racist extremists believe in freedom of conscience)
These freedoms have been very rare in Human History, so for Blair to wipe them out once again is actually true to how this planet usually operates. Which is why Blair gets so little resistance, and certainly none from outlets like Slashdot.
If you think it is bad now, think about how awful it will be in a few decades time when things like Blair's plan to BAN private car ownership are implemented. When Blair's total surveillance society has been brainwashed into every sheeple from birth.
The power of the computer allows a thing that was before only theoretical, no matter how desirable to earlier demons in our History. All Blair had to ensure was that ordinary people lost their say about the oppressive use of this tech- exactly as envisaged in Orwell's 1984. Today's young Brits 'think' only in ways their Academy schools have commanded them
Can't have it all ways. Either free speech or make hate illegal and ascii-harm illegal. You can't do it. You will lose trying. It would be like making air illegal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-_s8c_URQU
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Nazi? Not hardly yo Stalinst cunt. Actually that free-speaking Brit could follow the colonies advice ... a put a bullet in the head of a dozen gaffot MPs ... and their Trotsky-slut pimps. Perhaps a few thousand bullets would be needed ...
...how much harm a politician would suffer from the truth.
Are videos from the planes hitting the WTC towers on 9/11 considered "terrorist activity" ?
Because the social media sites took to censoring conservatives and other non-pc posts, rather than relying on community moderation, they demonstrated that the company itself could police user content. Now they will be held responsible for it. Had they instead relied on users themselves to police the community, they wouldn't be in the position they are now.
You misspelled "Catholic."
IMHO, Internet desperately needs "keep it clean" rules, unless we think it is ok to raise mentally screwed-up future generations!!!
Internet companies/websites need to be hold responsible for their social responsibility for common good of general public, whether they like it, or not!!!
& any laws for it, does not need to be fully comprehensive @ first!!!
More complicated issues/parts can be handled by future extension laws!!!
No, but there was certainly a time when the idea of *criminally prosecuting* someone for making a joke video of himself teaching his GF's dog to do a Nazi salute would have been laughable. And there was most certainly a time when no police officer worth his uniform would have even *considered* just turning his back on evidence of a large group of men raping underage girls out of fear of being called a racist if he were to act on that horrible evidence.
The UK has never enjoyed the robust free speech protections of the U.S., it's true. But there was at least a time when they weren't FUCKING BATSHIT INSANE.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
If you can't refute it, ban it. Communists are all the same.
how it would be better to have somebody other than the USA in charge of the net?
A few yeasrs back when the Obama team relinquished some control there were arguments including here on Slashdot about how good it would be to have somebody else other then the USA in control. My point back then was that I was not happy with the politicians in the USA (across party lines and for varying reasons) but that the USA atleast had certain traditions and a written Constitution with certain guarantees that bad it the best option.
The UK has no "1st Amendment" and has far less of a government hands-off tradition relative to communications.
You might like what the UK is talking about here as long as it goes against people you do not like, but what happens when they start using the policy against YOU?
Think about it.
One has to wonder, if such regulations were in place in the 90â(TM)s, would to world-wide-web ever have been born?
I joined the Free State Migration Project and then moved to NH explicitly because of shit like this. The majority of you are mad! There is no hope anywhere and without like-minded people moving to one region there is no hope for real change. I want to live in a world that is not ruled by control freaks.
It's not hard for people born 30 years ago to see how terrible things have gotten, but it's even worse for those who have been around longer. I long for a time when drivers licenses didn't exist, kids just had to be home before dark, and mandatory big brother tracking programs (ie license plates, social security numbers, and passports) didn't exist. Until fairly recently my state didn't even have a state police. Today we live in a world where it's acceptable to steal money from the young to cover the old or to cover the desires of one group or another. Social security was a bad idea to begin with. It's ensured that the people didn't learn there lesson. Instead of saving for retirement like responsible adults we became entitled wards of the state. Those who don't like it and refuse get kidnapped by the biggest gang in town. That is assuming one has the mental capacity and will to get around the system.
Let no tragedy go to waste.
Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
The social media platforms like Twitter and Facebook say that they are platforms, and therefore they should not be held liable for awful things that people say on their platforms. They aren't curated information streams like a newspaper, where nothing is published without editorial oversight.
However, they have been indulging in quite a bit of curation. And it hasn't been even-handed. If they like you, you can literally get away with inciting violence; if they don't like you, they will strike you down or shadow-ban you for any reason or no reason.
There are numerous cases of conservatives being suspended or banned from social media over relatively mild stuff (for example, telling a journalist to "Learn to code") while liberals can make jokes about the President being assassinated, wish for conservative people's children to be raped, etc. The post "#MAGAkids go screaming, hats first, into the woodchipper" did not result in any punishment from Twitter. This tweet was accompanied with a cartoon picture of a man feeding a body into a woodchipper and bloody snow. By "#MAGAkids" he meant some high school students who were in the news at the time.
https://www.rt.com/usa/449368-disney-producer-threatens-maga-kids/
Keith Olbermann wrote on Twitter these words: "we should do our best to make sure the rest of his life is a living hell." Who was the target of his wrath? A man who had a permit to hunt turkeys who shot a turkey. Olbermann has a million followers and some of them went on to harass the hunter. Twitter did not punish Olbermann in any way. (Faced by a backlash of bad publicity, Olbermann made a follow-up tweet saying that his words were not intended as an actual threat.)
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/03/27/keith-olbermann-urges-followers-make-hunters-life-living-hell-killing-rare-turkey/
I found an article that claims that a statistical analysis shows that this isn't just a few anecdotes, it's a trend.
https://quillette.com/2019/02/12/it-isnt-your-imagination-twitter-treats-conservatives-more-harshly-than-liberals/
I tried to use Facebook Messenger to send a link to a satirical essay. It would not allow me to send it, and it gave a totally nonsense reason. I just tried it again just now and the same thing happened; here's the error:
I was "going too fast"? After not using Messenger for over 24 hours, I attempted to send a single URL, so that message is clearly nonsense. Obviously I was merely guilty of wrongthink. The essay makes the point that the USA is spending so much money that it's not possible to "soak the rich" to pay for it all, using a sort of reducto ad absurdium. Clearly someone who works for Facebook doesn't like this essay or doesn't like "Iowahawk". If you want to read this forbidden essay, here you go:
Iowahawk: Feed Your Family on 10 Billion a Day
Then there is the current controversy over Twitter apparently shadowbanning the movie Unplanned. So far Twitter has adamantly maintained that everything that looked like shadowbanning was just buggy code, but this seems really egregious. The Unplanned Twitter account at one point had more followers than Planned Parenthood, and then suddenly it had zero followers. Peopl
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If you want to see how insane things are in the UK, here's an interview with South Yorkshire's Police & Crime Commissioner. South Yorkshire Police are encouraging people to report "non-crime hate incidents," which is basically people being offended on Twitter. Say something out of line here and you'll have the police all over you. It should be noted that South Yorkshire is where Rotherham is where the Muslim rape gangs were operating, but the police are far more concerned with protecting the feelings of those rapists than investigating actual crimes.
The interview is 15 minutes long, but if you listen to a few minutes at this point you'll get the idea:
https://youtu.be/wZXGI7R1-gA?t=329
Wow. Never seen such a level of Blair derangement syndrome.
I suggest a holiday. There's a place called reality, it's pretty nice at this time of year.
You misspelled "Religious."
I have little sympathy. If you are a tech company who thinks the UK and Australia is full of little people who don't matter then maybe this sort of response is to be expected.
No, I'm pretty sure that "Catholic" is correct.
Even the Pope himself admitted that there is a sexual child abuse problem in their ranks by calling it "evil". At least this is the most recent and biggest scandal for such a large religious organization.
Of course Christianity isn't alone here. There's plenty of sexual child abuse in various other countries, that are culturally rooted in Islam, where child brides are legal.
Down with nanny states. The people making these laws deserve a streamed crucifixion.
You are fined one credit for breaching the verbal morality code.
And now 500 credits for the live streaming morality codes, such as illegal fox hunts or doing burnouts. but shoot em up games are just fine.
Rich in culture, have we not had witch burnings. public beheadings, public hangings. public whippings and public executions in American prisons. Cock fighting , dog fighting, bare knuckle fighting.
All these stupid greedy companies have to do is claw back everything to the U.S. Then the politically correct commies in the EU and elsewhere in the world can be told to go to a very warm place.