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Google, Facebook, Microsoft, and Amazon Are Quietly Buying Undersea Cables (venturebeat.com)

The internet is commonly described as a cloud, writes the consumer policy expert and editor at BroadbandNow, but "In reality, it's a series of wet, fragile tubes, and Google is about to own an alarming number of them."

An anonymous reader quotes VentureBeat: Google makes billions from its cloud platform. Now it's using those billions to buy up the internet itself -- or at least the submarine cables that make up the internet backbone. In February, the company announced its intention to move forward with the development of the Curie cable, a new undersea line stretching from California to Chile. It will be the first private intercontinental cable ever built by a major non-telecom company. And if you step back and just look at intracontinental cables, Google has fully financed a number of those already; it was one of the first companies to build a fully private submarine line.

Google isn't alone. Historically, cables have been owned by groups of private companies -- mostly telecom providers -- but 2016 saw the start of a massive submarine cable boom, and this time, the buyers are content providers. Corporations like Facebook, Microsoft, and Amazon all seem to share Google's aspirations for bottom-of-the-ocean dominance... We're reaching the next stage of internet maturity; one where only large, incumbent players can truly win in media....

I've been watching this trend develop, being in the broadband space myself, and the recent movements are certainly concerning. Big tech's ownership of the internet backbone will have far-reaching, yet familiar, implications. It's the same old consumer tradeoff; more convenience for less control -- and less privacy... As we look to the future, we need to start asking ourselves what the internet is really going to look like whenever the content services that already command so much of our attention are in control of the internet backbone as well.

"Consumers will soon need to decide exactly how much faith they want to place in these companies to build out the internet of tomorrow."

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  1. consumers by religionofpeas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Consumers will soon need to decide exactly how much faith they want to place in these companies to build out the internet of tomorrow.

    What if a consumer doesn't have faith ? What options are there to stop this ?

    1. Re:consumers by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 2

      Ummm... just use a different company who also runs their own cable?

      First, this is Google laying one cable. Big deal. Second, there are lots of companies who lay cables, mostly telecoms, because that's the business they're in.

      The summary makes it sound like once someone lays a cable, everyone is forced to use it. Back in reality, one more company producing a service (underwater data transport) increases the available options, it doesn't decrease them.

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  2. Wait... what? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The slant of the headline and the lede paragraph imply that Google (and others) are “buying up” the existing undersea cabling... but what they are actually doing is laying their own new cable.

    And this particular new cable brings the number of undersea cables owned by Google, Facebook, Microsoft, and Amazon to a grand total of...

    (Drumroll please)

    One.

    There are plenty of real reasons to hate on these companies. We don’t need to find made-up reasons for doing so.

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    1. Re:Wait... what? by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, that's what I was going to say. They're building new submarine cables? Great. I don't trust anyone to own cables, that's why I use encryption.

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    2. Re:Wait... what? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      Perhaps the author considers the current large owners of undersea cables to be more benign... you know, US companies like AT&T and Verizon, or India’s Tata Group.

      Corporate ownership of undersea communications cables is nothing new. Heck, the first undersea telegraph cables back in the 1800s were paid for by British industrialists.

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  3. Have the government step in to build it by rsilvergun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the amount of money it takes to do these projects means you're options are big companies or the government. I'd personally rather see the government doing it. Telecom is too valuable to leave in the hands of private companies that may not (ok, let's be honest, probably not) have the best interests of consumers at heart.

    This does require a voting public to be engaged. I think that's doable but we need to get more emphasis on economic issues like this and less on social & wedge issues.

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    1. Re:Have the government step in to build it by Can'tNot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This isn't exactly a revolutionary idea, a government is supposed to be the instrument of the will of the people. The fact that a question like that could even be asked, of whether vital infrastructure would be better administrated in the hands of individuals rather than entrusted to the government's safe keeping, is an example of how far we've strayed from the democratic ideal.

  4. So Senator Ted Stevens Was Right by Crashmarik · · Score: 2

    It is nothing but a bunch of tubes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  5. Buy? Bad. Lay? Good. by kenwd0elq · · Score: 2

    If Google were buying up existing cables, I would be worried. But Google laying NEW submarine cables can only be for the good, because there aren't enough.

    And some redundancy in cables is DEFINITELY a good thing.

  6. Re:Ah! Now this is something we should regulate by PPH · · Score: 2

    The last thing we need is more regulation.

    Nice little business you've got there. I don't suppose you'd mind us collecting a fee to make sure it doesn't burn down.

    Shame there isn't a rule against that sort of behavior, right?

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  7. Shills shill shill shills by the shill shore by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Consumers will soon need to decide exactly how much faith they want to place in these companies to build out the internet of tomorrow.

    As if people have faith in Comcast, AT&T, and Verizon.

    Like the removal of Net Neutrality, privatizing internet infrastructure has only reduced prices for consumers.

    Reduced what in the what now?

    This is an "article" written by an astroturfing lobbyist. His ideology sells the belief that deregulation solves all problems, yet because he is beholden to his telecom masters, he must also sell the belief that having more competition is also bad.

  8. Re:Interesting by religionofpeas · · Score: 2

    it's a treasure trove for any Company who partakes in the " Big Data " business model of knowing anything and everything about everyone.

    Don't know about US, but EU regulations are not going to allow 3rd party data snooping.

  9. And? by ledow · · Score: 2

    It's not really a threat to privacy or security if you have an ounce of either, though, is it?

    You're encrypting your traffic, right?

    Then one of the primary facets of all modern encryption is that an adversary can read EVERY SINGLE PACKET you send and still be none the wiser as to what you were doing.

    If you're properly routing your traffic, encrypting your DNS, etc. etc. then it doesn't matter if Putin himself is delivering the packets.

    There may be net-neutrality issues, but there shouldn't be any security issues whatsoever. You should be able to publish your encrypted sessions on the ten o'clock news or in a newspaper... it literally makes no difference to whether or not your data was secure or not.

  10. In the United States it is by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    we pretty well get pounded in the skull with the idea that government is bad from grade school on. One of the big states (Texas) has it's school boards controlled by right wing extremists and because it's such a large market they've been able to control the contents of schoolbooks for decades. Anti-government sentiment is all over our media too. The main narrative you see over here is "Gov't can't do anything right, they just make things worse". It's mostly pushed on us by big corps that don't want to pay taxes, but it works.

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    1. Re: In the United States it is by Can'tNot · · Score: 3, Informative

      The parent is referring to the Texas Board of Education, which is not composed of teachers, has notable influence over the content of textbooks in not just Texas but other states as well, and is well known for such antics as promoting intelligent design, abstinence-only education, and removing any mention of Hillary Clinton. Literally writing her out of history.

    2. Re: In the United States it is by Hodr · · Score: 2

      You're information is half a decade out of date. Did you perhaps get it from a Texas textbook?

      Two things have significantly dimished the state's influence on textbooks. The first (smaller) influence is that they voted in 2013 or 2014 to allow individual school districts to choose and purchase their own books. The second, is that they banned common-core, so the 45 states that went with common-core will not be using the books made for the Texas marketplace by default.

  11. They build new cables to handle their own traffic by jhecht · · Score: 2

    Big data builds -- or partners in -- new cables to mirror their cloud computing centers around the world. More than half the traffic carried by transoceanic submarine cables is between big data centers, not to people using the Net.