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New "YEPP" MP3 player from Samsung
Joe Torre writes
"The 4th commercial MP3 player I'm aware of was shown at
CES. All the features of the Rio (except being available
now!). Plus it has a magnesium metal case, and a fancy model
with FM radio/Mic record. The encoder station apparently
has analog stereo into an MP3 DSP encoder, into the YEPP
player's memory, via the base station. Making the desktop
optional."
Whats the point of that other than making it as flamable as possible? Perhaps they mean a Magnesium Oxide coating to prevent corrosion? But I do have to say it would be interesting to hear on the news about how people suddenly burst into flames while listening to music while jogging. Being as big as they are people might also get blinded too!
So if these things have magnesium casing, if you held a blowtorch to it until it ignited, wouldn't the thing totally burn to ashes?
so that you don't have to wait before it burns
The Rio from Diamond Multimedia is already available now. It costs 199.99 from Electronics Boutique. I saw the demo of that and it is cool as heck. Two disadvantages is: 1. Only last 6 hours and 2. only enough memory to store 30 mins of high quality sound but, it supposedly can store one hour of near CD quality music. MP3s are good stuff. The more support for this the better.
I think mp4 is a audio format based on AAC and VQF.
Mag help disapate heat. Some dec and tapole laptops were made of it. That way YOU didn't catch on fire when you had it in your laptop. The magnesium in laptops is not the same as the mag in firestarters. They are treated differently.
Isn't MP4 an updated multimedia standard with shape and overlay extensions (among others) ?
Maybe it has audio too....
Mg by itself is very reactive. That's why it combines to make itself more stable. By your guy's stupid logic you'd think that salt will explode (Na) when it touches water then you'll be poisoned by chlorine. Get a grip and think first. Your made of crap that is super reactive by itself but the point is it has reacted to become less reactive and stable. The amount of ignorance I see here is astounding. Any real geek knows their chemistry 10 at least.
OH MY GAWD YOUR RIGHT!!! MY MAGNESIUM RIMS ON MY CAR ARE SUDDENLY GOING TO BURST INTO FLAMES!!! OH MY GAWD!
dipshit.
You are wrong. You are thinking of MPEG-4 and
MPEG-7. mp4 isn't mpeg-4. Be careful with
terminology.
mp4 = AAC + VFQ.
in my opinion, memory cards are worthless. why spend the money when you can burn 650M onto a $2 cd? when faced with a memory card, you're better off just using a discman. that's why i didn't like the rio.
you're a big weenie. if all the materials in this world were reactive, then the whole world would be on fire right now. carbon would be burning left and right, hence, all life forms. sodium would be blowing up right now. the ocean would be blowing up because we all know sodium blows up in water
salt shakers would be in huge flames that could not be put out with out kerosene. that was just a dumb statement
although chemistry catalogs are always fun to play with.
Two words: analog recording.
The single AA battery is pretty trick. I find half-eaten AA's around the house like I find socks w/ holes. This baby runs on fumes unlike motorized toys. But I can't praise this thing without mentioning the assenine pause function -- it only waits 30 secs and then resets to the beginning of the track!!! WTF!
I really realy want a MP3 player reading from CD-R's. I hoped Naiam would give us the possibility to buy one in 1998, but it seems they are sleeping over there. I mailed them yet, no answer....
The reason you have to shave/file bits off the magnesium is because of basic kinetic theory of matter - the larger the surface area of the reactant, the easier it is for it to react.
Hannes F
"Even as a young lad, joe never did like windows"
Boing!
The "reference software" (slow, user-hostile code to demonstrate how the standard is supposed to work) is all-but-complete and is scheduled to be finished in March. Non-MPEG organizations are already building tools for user-friendly use of the standard.
The whole MPEG-4 Audio standard (not including Video or Systems) is about 1200 pages long. It is formally ISO 14496-3:1999 and is divided into 6 Subparts:
Here is the hype from the beginning of Subpart 1:
ISO/IEC 14496-3 (MPEG-4 Audio) is a new kind of audio standard that integrates many different types of audio coding: natural sound with synthetic sound, low bitrate delivery with high-quality delivery, speech with music, complex soundtracks with simple ones, and traditional content with interactive and virtual-reality content. By standardizing individually sophisticated coding tools as well as a novel, flexible framework for audio synchronization, mixing, and downloaded post-production, the developers of the MPEG-4 Audio standard have created new technology for a new, interactive world of digital audio.
MPEG-4, unlike previous audio standards created by ISO/IEC and other groups, does not target a single application such as real-time telephony or high- quality audio compression. Rather, MPEG-4 Audio is a standard that applies to every application requiring the use of advanced sound compression, synthesis, manipulation, or playback. The subparts that follow specify the state-of-the- art coding tools in several domains; however, MPEG-4 Audio is more than just the sum of its parts. As the tools described here are integrated with the rest of the MPEG-4 standard, exciting new possibilities for object-based audio coding, interactive presentation, dynamic soundtracks, and other sorts of new media, are enabled.
Go here for more information on MPEG-4 Audio.
Best regards,
-- Eric Scheirer
Editor, ISO 14496-3 (MPEG-4 Audio)
Good one!!!:-)
Hmm. Puts those little locking diaries to shame, doesn't it? Some sweaty younger sibling tries to mess with your stuff and fst!
Mind the Gap
I had cheistry last year (High school.) And the reason Magnesium is flammable is that it is unstable. I'm sure that this is some sort of alloy in which case it kicks ass. Many sports car parts are magnesium, so are alot bicycle frames.
You have to get unstable Magnesium such as a magensium ribbon and then hold up a blow torch or some sort of butane lighter to it. It burns green I beleive and you have to hold it in the flame for a while. When it does burn however if you look at it direclty and are close it will scar your corena or retnea or somthing.
magnesium case...
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Every year during my review, I just pray the words "slashdot.org" aren't mentioned.
Yes. If it were made of plastic and you held a blowtorch to it, it would also burn. Big deal.
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Campers are sold magnesium shards in which they scrape off shavings in order to light campfires
Hmm, I wonder why they shave it first. Magnesium blocks won't light, it has to be a shaving, ribbon or powder to light. Magnesium in a large chunk is perfectly safe. Get one of those camper sticks and put it to a blowtorch, it won't light. It's mainly of value because it's lightweight, and soft enough to machine fairly easily.
This
Nice and flamable.
Perfect for when you are carrying around illegal
music in your Yepp. Just take out a match, and
poof! No evidence.
I bet compact, high quality players like this will soon be in demand. I just wish these would include a built in lithium battery charger. Up to 6 hours on a battery seems like a hassle. I'd rather recycle the electrons than dispose of hazmat chemicals in the dumpster.
Needless to say I want one. One for my car, too!
If you heat a block of magnesium to a nice color of a critical temperature, you will get a strong reaction. Also, fresh aluminum shavings are very explosive. Most metals that form a thin oxide layer in presence of oxegen can be a hazard when shaved.
Shave some aluminum down in a bench grinder some time. It can be a deadly hazard.
I thought the whole reason the lawsuit against the RIO failed was that it was based on laws governing recording devices. And the RIO was clearly not a recording device.
:-)
This one, however.... Well, we'll see. I'm sure the lawyers love it. They probably get samples.
The lawsuit was attempting to stop the RIO based on laws which specifically prohibited that type of digital recording... sorry, I don't remember the details... but the reason the suit was thrown out was that the RIO was clearly not a recording device. I guess they decided that they'd have a pretty hard time going after everyone with an MP3 encoder on their hard drive, but they were willing to try to take down Diamond.
No. At work, we had a Win 98 box with WinGate that had two NIC's and 2 modems. There were many times when all were connected and they each had their own IP address. That would be 4 IP addresses if you aren't keeping score at home.
I'm no MS whore but a mis-statement of fact is a mis-statement of fact.
Free Mac Mini. Yes, I'm
Anyone know if I can use Linux to load MP3's on one of these players? That's what I'd like to see--a MP3 player that supports loading via standard protocols (TCP-IP over a serial connection would work well).
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It is my understanding that the value of magnesium (for starting fires) is that it burns very hot. However, it is difficult to light. That is why you have to scrape it into small filings.
+LO
Uhm... Magnesium isn't exactly EASY to light. If it were then I'm sure there'd be a problem with thousands of poor soul's wheelchairs suddenly bursting into flames every day.
Probably not (load MP3s from Linux). There is a guy who has done it for the MPman (from the command line). I just bought a Rio and will be snarfing from that project to make the Rio Linux-friendly. If anyone else is interested in helping, please email me. :)
_Deirdre
It would be a shame if you dropped it and its cheapo plastic case shattered. Many laptops are now coming with magnesium cases also.
http://www.samsungelectronics.com/news/cgi-bin/sec news.cgi?app=print&key=221&
:)
Try this one.. seems to be informative... and in English
MP3 recorders/players are variable bitrate, unlike Minidisc, which insists upon using their proprietary codec and stereo or mono at a set bitrate. Just look on the back of a Rio box, it says you can fit 9+ hours on 32 megs at 16Khz, which is pretty good for voice. So, I'm assuming you can put at least 10+ hours on the YEPP at the same bitrate, seeing that it has 40 MB.
:)
And, when you're finished, just transfer all of the data back to your computer, and clear the memory. Simple.
Ooops... I meant 16kbps. :)
Since the Rio has a firmware revision that you can check by pushing a few buttons, I'm assuming that it's a relatively general-purpose DSP they're using, and all it would require is a firmware update. But they could have also soldered the firmware chip into the unit, and decided against a flash-rom. So who knows?
The teledock.de link seems dead. Here's some more data. Anyone speak Korean?
YEPP home page (English, incl. pix):
http://yepp.co.kr
Samsung's music site, including playback s/w and what appears to be music securing and payment technology (SecuMAX/EMTS):
http://www.m4you.com
There's also a 1.6M MP3 player available that appears to support (quote):
- WAV (Windows 95/98 Support)
- MPEG I Layer 2, 3 (mp2, mp3)
- Secured MPEG I Layer 3 (sm3)
- Secured MPEG II AAC (sm4)
... and skins. The Xmas skin is adorable.
The third beta is available here:
http://www.m4you.com/musicdrive/pds/md10b3.exe
Enjoy,
chris@emergentsystems.net
If this new truely does have a record feature this will be an amazing new tool! Gone are the days of multi-tape college lectures, business speaches, dictation tapes, and concert bootlegs. Now if the quality is there....
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Most people don't know this, but Discmans scratch cds. I'm not sure when, or how, I think its when it skips, but the Discman makes small circular scratches. I haven't had any problem with the scratches causes skips [yet], but I did have a problem with trying to sell my old cds to a used cd store. That's when I learned about this.
Another reason why the RIO (or any portable mp3 player) is superior to a portable cd player is because cds do skip, and a RIO doesn't.
Everything I know I learned by eating the brains of smart people.
I wonder if you'll be able to upgrade these things when mp4's are the biggest thing...