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Unreal for Linux?
linuxgames.com has a story
involving the upcoming Linux server port of Unreal, as
well as a possible client(!) port to Linux as well. You can also read the
original post over at Epic MegaGames.
Epic is now looking at more 3D APIs besides Glide, and hopes to use OpenGL
for any Unreal ports.
Too bad Unreal's network code sucks so much ass; oh well, least now I can play something else on a linux lan.
...and they will come. Who do I send my $50 to?
I hope they finally use OpenGL for something on linux.
great to see game comming to linux,this will surely help me to make convert !!
Canadian AC
Use NT, at least its supported by an Organization, not a bunch of hackers.
Troll bait. Go surf M$N.
So when you call MS tech support, you speak directly with the engineers who write the code?
Didn't think so. At least there's a chance that the "Hackers" who support you in Linux know the thing inside and out
are you getting paid by M$???
Maybe if you read the article he tried to use NT and was unable to because of driver issues.
NT sucks
Linux Rulz
I'm a doctor.
I wanna have more gamies gamy gamy gimme more gamies!!
gamy schmamy , yeah come on give it to me
lemme kick some 3d ass. baby I know you want it
too so give it to me. damn. DAMN!! what's taking so long.
i want it. i want it now. i need to kill.
score -9 is a sure score
What do you mean "supported"?
When I say "supported" I mean there is a human being you can contact and get help from. This human generally has used a computer before and can maybe even give me source code to fix my problem.
forgive me, oh wondrous /.'ers.
i keep hearing nvidia released specs for their TNT chip to Xfree, but there don't seem to be any details on any of the usual sites.
did they release the 2D spec only, or both the 2D and 3D spec?
You have a small penis.
It's too late for Unreal to be ported to Linux. I've had my fill of that game, bring me Quake3!
NT blows goats
What crock, who cares...
I mean , if they did this in july, yeah,but now?
Its old hat, crap!
the epic guys may be good, but they are so damn slow!!!! why not GPL the damn shit...
slackers
i use nt at work; just had a screen freeze
Very funny... really. I love irreverent [sic] posts like this... meept was/is awesome. What's wrong with a little humor? keep it coming I say
I KNEW there was a reason I gave up on this stupid forum, and the responses to this newspiece are a prime example of why.
Gee, a couple days ago everyone was jumping up and down for the source release of dinosaurs like Heretic and Descent. Epic makes an announcement that they may make an Unreal client and all the enlightened Slushdot community has to say is "Unreal sucks! ID rulez! Too little too late!" (yeah, too late? Heretic isn't exactly NEW folks).
Slashdot is nothing but a group of wannabe mouse jockeys making uninformed commentary about anything they can. This is a big contrast from the informed chatter that used to be here.
So what's it gonna be? I guess ID and their derivatives are the only ones 'allowed' by the elite here to release a Linux port, eh? All else need not apply. It doesn't matter that Epic made a fine game (albeit with bugs, but even the darlings at Valve released Half-life with crappy network code too). It doesn't matter that we can say "Hey, another game for linux that we don't have to play under Wine!", oh no. The typical peanut gallery whining is all we have here. Christ I might as well make a reference to KDE/Gnome/whatever and just start the flame wars anew, eh?
I hope to god that the clueful will steer clear of this place. I know I will.
Oh and if anyone from Epic or any other game company is reading this forum, don't take the opinions here as any kind of indicator of what Linux users want. Unreal or any other game would be very, very welcome in the Linux world.
I am tired of "burst in and kill everything" FPS games (although I do like Shogo). I want THIEF:The Dark Project ported! I love this game! Yeah, i know it's 3d engine is no competitor to Unreal, Half-Life or even Shogo, but DAMN, the setting, atmosphere, and gameplay more than make up for the graphics. I haven't had this much fun with a FPS game since I first ever tried Doom. I want a Linux game where I can hide in the shadows, sneak up behind a peasant or castle guard and nail him from behind with an arrow, and then hide the body!
Respectfully,
Kevin Christie
kwchri@maila.wm.edu
Although it is great to see companies porting games to unix-type OSes, I have to say I'm a little miffed that Epic took SO long in releasing Unreal, when they did release it, it wasn't finished, they never, to my knowledge, delivered the downloadable demo they promised - and now, they've started work on Unreal2, without finishing the first one. IMO, Epic needs to clean up its act a bit before people are going to take their games seriously. I'm not going to buy something I can't even look at first.
-lx
i agree with some users obove that, it would be
:)
VERY nice if Unreal is ported to Linux , but
i think they should think about this earlier.
We dont want to be treated as second choice,
we want to play the COOL-NEW-GAMES too.
i just dont play any old games , even if
unreal is not that old
(that why i always buy a new computer
Question: what should i do with Unreal, when
everyone is playing Unreal ][ ??
I might have to actually buy this game.
I've normally been a Quake II-only kind of 3D shooter, but I'd love to give Unreal a shot
under Linux.
I can't wait for Quake III under Linux. Those
curved surfaces look gorgeous.
Posted by nOMAAM:
while they're at it port unreal to the Amiga too
Keez
Posted by nOMAAM:
gimme some talk about Amiga !!!
We should be quite firm here, it will, I'm sure make a difference when games are planned. If it is known the community generally frowns on serving games for which there is no client, we will see more clients.
As Linux becomes more mainstream and games become more and more networked, there will be a real incentive to use Linux as the server of choice. This of course because LINUX ROCKS (as well as a few other highly technical and abstruse bits of High Grade code which produce "Ass Kicking" performance).
"Pray arm me further by your reply" Winston Churchill
It's funny that the chief point that Windows users raise for -- and can substantiate -- for MS superiority is that Windows has more games. Like that really matters to most people; I couldn't care less about playing Unreal or Quake or SiN or Half-Life or Heretic or Descent on a mission-critical server. At this point, you might as well take the money you save buying/running linux instead of Windows (especially now that we have legal precedence for abolishing the MS tax) and go get yourself an N64 and a very large screen TV.
Thief's 3d engine is not comparable to even GLQuake... But fun, nonetheless... :)
"Be nice, veer left, and never stop thinking" Iain Banks - Walking On Glass
'nuff said!
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
Work should begin in ernest on them. With Quake III, BFRIS, and now possibly Unreal, we're going to need solid support from cards other than Voodoo based ones. I happen to have the SiS register info if someone's game (I'm not going to be able to have an AGP motherboard for at least 2-4 months at this point and the SiS is only on motherboards and AGP cards...)
Right now, I'm going with the hardware I've got, such as it is- the Millenium II (Yes, I know that it's been discontinued, but there's a LOT of them out there...).
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
...it's the whole shooting match. But I think they're constrained to just the 2D aspects- you'll have to ask XFree86 for the real skinny on the info they have in hand.
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
I remember looking at Unreal in like 1991. It was a pretty good demo, and my hat's off to Future Crew, but porting a dos 'eurodemo' to Linux seems absurd. Besides, the whole idea is to show off the hardware; hard to do that when insulated from the hardware by the kernel!
Sheesh.
Mesa doesn't really support hardware acceleration for OpenGL in a window under X. Yet. Yes, I know about the crufty Voodoo hack.
It may be too late for you to be interested in Unreal as a game, but the Unreal engine has been licensed for use in many games that are due out this year and next. Hammering out Linux support for Unreal now may convince these developers licensing the Unreal engine to include it in their games.
Thank you, that made me smile :-) Hurhurhur...
Why are there only FPS games being ported to Linux. Everyone, get your asses to alphacentauri.com and demand a Linux port.
You don't exist. Go away. --SysVinit Halt
I just wanted to say thank you to Epic for acknowledging the Linux community, and spending time on a port that will make alot of people very happy. My peers on /. have overlooked this, in their eagerness to start flame wars, denounce the quality of your games, etc, etc. I think that these things don't matter, I think what's important is that you are going to give us the port we've asked for for so long. I can only hope that in the future you'll repeat this with other games, and perhaps one day your fellow developers will follow the lead of Epic and id. Despite how it may appear from the other comments, your games are very welcome in the Linux community, and you will have my money as long as this becomes a trend. Once again, thank you!
Do you mean Mesa, or has Mesa been OpenGL certified?
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I love playing net Unreal on my Winblows box. I'll happily shell out another $50 to play it on Linux. -AND- I'm excited about Q3A. I'll buy that too. IMHO, Epic has been very customer-focused. Admittedly, the initial release was pretty bad for net play, but they've released patch after patch and even new maps at zero cost to us.
You are you correct here.
Its seems pretty obvious to me, if you arn't interested in this game, SHUT THE FUCK UP -- some people ARE interested in it and whining bitches who want game X ported are gonna ruin it for the rest of us.
"Computers will never truly be free until the last windows user is strangled with the entrails of the last mac user."
This is should be fun
Umm... We aren't talking about the FC demo 'ere, We're talking about "Unreal" by "Epic MegaGames".
Go look at www.unreal.com to get a decent idea of what we're talking about.
The reason everyone is so happy about the heretic/hexen releases is because those games were fun. Unreal just plain sucked...
Boring single player... fux3d deathmatch/networking...
And don't even get me started on Halflife.. (yay! run around spraying sprites all over walls watching sprite explosions going off over sprites, sprites.. crap!)
and it's spelt id all lowercase and until someone makes a game that compares to id quality then maybe they'll be held with reverence...
but until then, its crap.
Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now.
The game sucks. I mean, really.. lets look at it.. It's got good graphics, but because it's soo inefficient you need a P450/Voodoo2 SLI to play with out having any second doubts on the capability of your system and the lameness of the game. I wouldn't waste my time writing an email to Epic on how llama the game is just cause it'd deface the name llama. And despite what the sellouts at PC Gamer say, there aren't any current Quake killers. id is the only company yet to make a Quake killer.
Off Topic.. it amuses me that Valve and whoever bothered with SiN could take such a great game and make it @$$.
Blessed be he who reads this post, Cursed be he who tells my boss.