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Bill expresses view on Linux competition: Ha-ha
Linux Today has a translated
transcription of a
Danish Radio Interview with Bill Gates. How many of you
think that Bill's "Oh - I - you know - my job is to fear everything."
shows he caught himself before saying "No"? In the meantime
Jean-Louis Gassee is dismissing Microsoft's new bedtime story
that BeOS integrates the Browser into the OS. Here's a little
more
detail from Patrick Hajek.
Finally, in
related news,
Bill had the opportunity to visit a German School which accepted
a local company's offer to
install Linux its PCs for the occasion
Good job /.ing zdnet.de.. The story comes up as "document contains no data"
what is it, 20 seconds after it's posted already?
Linux is nice, and cool, and powerful...
But it's the demand for NT Admins that puttin' food on my table, and a new porsche boxster in my garage in another 24 months or so...
somewhat informative, and somewhat humorous as well... (especially since there's a lot of translation research going on where i work)
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just about every time a link is bad in a slashdot article, it's because there's a space in the middle of it. what's up?
I think he meant that they *ought* to make more money, since they have to work so hard to keep things running.
I mean, the /. readers are multi-cultural and multi-lingual, but I'd bet that none of us speaks every language in the world. Just a note ("the article is in Swahili") would be nice.
Hell, if it were up to me (it isn't) we'd all be using a common inter-language (I vote for Esperanto) for most net stuff, and use our national languages for what they're best at, instead of forcing English on everybody like what's happening now.
I used to think of Bill Gates as a pretty good hacker who went wrong long a go because he loves money too much.
But now I wonder: the guy has said he plans to give away all his money by the time he's 50 or something (he's already given away the most by anyone, at least $5 billion: http://www.msnbc.com/news/238819.asp).
So is that a cool hack or what? Achieve near-total world domination by giving people what they think they want, then give it all away.
I think it's possible to hate a lot of what Microsoft stands for while still respecting a guy who happens to enjoy hacking business as much as hacking computers. Seeing him in the interview, I find he has a nice, geeky quality, if a little boring, more appealing certainly than Scott McNealy or Larry Ellison, who are just technically clueless, long-toothed business guys as far as I can tell.
Yes, I'm a coward.
k a i
In BE's reply regarding its browser integration, they mentioned that MS had bought quite a few copies of their OS.
So expect to see some features from BEOS ripped off and copied into Windows sometime in the future.
Well, at least in the Washington, DC area, NT admins are a dime a dozen. That's the main reason the government is using NT, because NT admins are more plentiful than politicians.
From what I understand, BG never was much of a geek. He ripped techno he wanted, never doing a hell of a lot himself. He's a consummate business person, but so's Madonna.
I think the mythology around Billy-boy is perpetuated by his Gateness.
Hahhaha. Sorry this is the first time I've ever heard of someone who didn't have 6 seconds to waste to load a page and see it was in a foreign language.
Hmm I think if he really cared about other people, he'd lower some prices here and there, and get rid of the Microsoft tax. He seems to be a business geek, OK, so he takes a lot of enjoyment out of the business world. But I mean he is playing with peoples' lives to some extent. Not that saving a few thousand consumers like $150 each will solve all the world's problems, but it doesn't look like he cares a whole lot for the commoners.
Gates? Ignorant? Not on your life. That sounds like the kind of point an MS apologist would use--not that you are one of them. Just breathe deeply, think, and realize that Gates will say anything to further his domination. The guy is a real whiz--too bad he has bad intentions. :(
if linux is "unix as defined 20 years ago," then microsoft has quite some catching up to do...
i can't believe gates actually said that. is he trying to admit that his technology is actually inferior to something that was defined 20 years ago? in that case, we need to strikeout "innovation" (as if that ever happens at microsoft) and replace that with "catch-up"
"it's a long way to the top, if you wanna rock and roll..." -ACDC
long ways to go still microsoft... to catch up with a 20 year old technology!!! hahaha
Latin is much more well-known than esperanto,
more widely spoken and taught, and forms a goodly
half of the base of the most commonly spoken language on the planet - English.
Why would you ever consider BillG a 'hacker', let alone a 'pretty good' one? What have you seen that would lead you to believe that he's anymore technically oriented than his equivalents at Sun and Oracle? The guy is a salesman and a marketer. One hell of a salesman, but that's it.
Marketing geek? Is there such a thing?
Gay. I heard it from a friend of mine who saw an obscure interview with him in Denmark in the late 80's.
Crashy Crashy Blue Blue (screen) :P
apologies to Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
If it's true, that's probably an annoying factoid for gay people.
Mr. Gates' ends may be great (somehow I doubt it though), but considering how low-down his means are, it is not worth it--by a longshot.
Me too, but it doesn't mean it must be done by the kernel. What is the point in having speech recognition (or even a GUI) in the kernel?
Steeling from the rich and giving to the poor is fine and all that, but the original Robin just slit purses, not throats.
Ah, hell, why do I bother?
Oh well,
direct democracy isn't something new, nor the idea to use computers or electronical devices for
voting. And don't forget direct democracy has it's limitations. Check for example Switzerland -
or think about the protection of minorities in
a direct democracy. Well, and there is a country
which has abolished nation-wide "public votes"
because of _very_ bad experiences.
Sorry, I'm not working on this topic and therefore
can't give you links - but each good "department of politics" of an university should have material.
Basically, my point is that as Bill Gates has
already invented the GUI and the Internet,
we shouldn't make him inventor of direct
democracy.
cheers
stefan
No shit. I mean, we already had to claim Liberace..
.and George Michael..
Now, really... let's be honest here. Liberace is only an embarassment because he was so badly closeted for so long.
I loved Boy George's line about him.
Remember from civics class that the United States is NOT a democracy. If it were, every minority less than 50% would have been long ERADICATED from the scene. There would be no choice but to follow the majority.
No matter how bad our Constitutional Republic seems at times, it is better than a pure democracy.
SystemV was just a feeble response from the suits (AT&T) to try to catch up to what the geeks at Berkeley was up to. More or less like Microsoft vs Linux. SysV is where it all went downhill. That and the monstrosity that is Posix. Ugh!
Long live the VAX and 4.2BSD!
that is funny
You're not retarded, are you?
- A.P.
--
"One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad
"Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
Anyone else find it somewhat ironic that Be's requirements for a sysadmin are:
Minimum Requirements: 3-5 years experience.
Windows 95/98/NT 4, MS Office/Outlook 97/98, Cheyenne Enterprise Backup, HP Laser Jet, Cisco Router Management, Great Plains/FRX or MSSQL a plus
The more you know, the less you understand.
... not grammar. English does have quite a huge amount of words from Latin (and Greek) especially if you count words from Latin-derived languages such as French and Spanish.
Modern English has surprisingly little in common with (Modern) German despite the fact that it is considered a "Germanic" language.
And to the person who suggested posting en francais, la langue internationale diplomatique, while j'adore les francais, French stopped being the international language of diplomacy oh, about, 100 years ago.
More than I make? I don't think so.
I looked at becoming an NT admin once. I would have had to take a major pay cut. And now I'm managing more Linux machines and fewer Solaris machines. And I'm getting payed the same. Odd, isn't it?
Of course, actually understanding computers, networking, and data management helps....
Microsoft is to software what Budweiser is to beer.
Anybody else laugh at, "Linux is like Unix was 20 years ago," or something like that? Exsqueeze me? Most will attribute that to hyperbole, in defense of his own operating system. Me, I think it's just blindness and stupidity.
I used to believe Mr. Gates actually had a clue, which he chose to ignore. Now I suspect he really is ignorant, and probably a moron, to boot.
Who'd of thunk it?
Microsoft is to software what Budweiser is to beer.
Warum kann Sie nicht Deutsch?
He he he. Death to rc.local!
Long live rc.*!
Anyone provide a translation, please?
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"People will pay big bucks for the luxury of ignorance."
But to make your pendantic day a little brighter...
"At the risk of adding a note which will likely be oft repeated, I would appreciate an anglified translation of the german document if at all possible. Thank you."
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"People will pay big bucks for the luxury of ignorance."
Essentially Bill Gates is saying that he will keep throwing new features into his OS (Windows). Speech and handwriting recognition. He seems not concerned about the millions of lines of code in NT 5.0 and wants to add more. GUI in the kernel not enough...
This will give GNU/Linux, a 20-year old design (according to Gates) with a proven foundation for reliability, to take over... The longer MS stuck in Windows 2000, the better...
Free Software: the software by the people, of the people and for the people. Develop! Share! Enhance! Enjoy!
"common" people are almost monopoly in so called highly developed countries
high developed countries are near monopoly to the whole planet
almost evety monopoly is for no good (or more precisely: monopoly causes less good than bad)
hany
My Porsche Boxter is already bought and 1/3 paid for and I don't touch NT machines if I can help it.
So there.
No I worked mostly on SGI but recently am doing a lot more Linux and (sigh) NT work.
To be honest, I am not a sysadm but a software devloper. I just thought it was neat that I already bought the car that the NT guy is dreaming of getting.
And yes I know I misspelled Boxster so don't flame me I was typing too fast.
I manage a handful of Solaris and Linux servers and seem to always have time for other projects as well.
/. and fiddle with code!
Yah, I have about 12-15 SPARCs and a few of my Linux 'toys', and I end up doing the Maytag repariman thing, but at least it leaves me plenty of time to read
I did inherit a lot of junky crap, but at least I can do everything remotely and mostly without reboot so it could be a whole lot worse..
It's almost entertaining enough to listen to the entire feed, but for that whiney voice...
The link is "Besvarelse af spørgsmål" = "Answering questions".
-- Elflord
Cxu vi sxercxas? Kiu konversas latine hodiaux? Mi sxatas latinon, sed deklinacioj estas eksaj.
(Are you kidding? Who uses Latin conversationally anymore? I like Latin, but declensions SUCK ASS! (Pardon the poetic license on the translation, but I don't yet know how to convey the connotation of 'suck ass' in Esperanto.)) On the other hand, there are lots of us who can and do use Esperanto every day. And it's not dead, either; it evolves in a sort of 'bazaar' model as changes naturally occur.
Moonbear
Gates over $50 billion dollars of americans money from his microsoft tax - 5 billion is one tenth of what he owes the people back.
You're saying direct democracy possibly using computers is bad cause you saw a MOVIE about it... stay away from the boob tube, man.
Most of the Basic code for the altair was hacked up basic Bill borrowed from DEC (where he worked for a time). The math (Floating) was done by a third person.
Dos = QDos = Not anything related to Bill.
Bill pushed his begged borrowed and stolen basic interp. as far as he could. He would usually promise schedules he knew he couldn't make (clean) just to get the $$. (Knowing he'd upsell a fixed basic rom to the end user).
Steve Jobs is NOT a hacker. Woz IS. All steve did was coax Woz into building the Apple (Woz had built a keyboard that amazed Jobs).
BTW: The key to Gates success is in the business acumen of Paul, notice how MS OEM Lic. looks really similar to TicketMaster? Duh...
I guess NT Admins would make more money if you added them all up and compared them to the unix admins running the same number of machines. To bad windoze will never have much in the way of remote management. Maybe then NT admins could start making some real money... Oh... I forgot... have to have access to the machines to hit reset... so much for getting to the ratio of machines managed that unix admins have :P
And it's those same NT Admin's ignorance that puts more cash in M$'s wallet and a new porsche boxster in Bill's garage RIGHT NOW!!
ChaChing!
According to CNN his recent charitable donations
... if the antitrust trial goes the way ;)
are $3.3 billion U.S. in M$ stock to
"The William H. Gates Foundation" and
to "The Gates Learning Foundation".
Is it just me or does it seem like he is giving
money to himself?
Oh well
I hope it will, his donations of M$ stock
will only be worth $49.38 (Canadian)
Chris
BeOS and NetPositive are NOWHERE near integrated. The user's manual is in html... thats as close as it gets. This news in prompting a new software release:
MS Bullshit
SRP: $50 Billion
Requirements: Corrupt businessmen and polititions
Ever felt like the whole world was against you? Well it is, but MS Bullshit can help. Instead of fixing your problems, MS Bullshit will lie and fake evidence to your claims of being good. That videotape of performance after removal? Fake it. Those competitors 1/200th the size of you who create good, low-cost software? Screw 'em.
Yes, we think MS Bullshit is right for you, just be sure to use the "Non-acting Partner" feature if anyone does try to use your version of MS Bullshit.
Release date: 1st Quarter 1901
John Hancock ->
Oracle DBAs make more money...
Market studies show that the top-paying job in the I.S. market is the DBA.
And what OS do DBAs choose 10:1? *nix. Could be linux, could be Sun, could be DEC. It dosn't really matter unless you try to make 'em use Windoze (or SCO haha). Then they revolt.
So here's another way to slice it - who actually makes more money? Not in terms of your take-home pay, but how much profit you actually produce for your company/organization/self? I think the NT admin, like NT, is way overvalued in the market today. They sit around and drink coffee all day, one hand on the reset button, the other on their beeper. Once in a while they get a day of steady work re-installing everything on the system. Then they drive their porshe home, laughing all the way - kind of like Bill himself. As Windows dies, we will see the death of the inflated windows job market too. Programmers too! "But I know everything about the windows message loop and thunking!" - "Have you ever used Java? Perl? No? Thanks, we'll let you know."
Fun ride while it lasts, but now you're unemployed just like all those Novell graduates from a few years back. I feel sorry for these guys too - just getting on the NT boat now only to be dumped overboard as the thing sinks like a seive.
I have a client now asking me to run their Oracle DB under windose. I won't do it. I keep telling 'em to get *nix.
-=Julian=-
Bill talks about a very hip idea in this video - direct democracy or representative democracy. Pay attention to this part (around 25:15). I Love this idea, and I didn't know that billG was into this. Just goes to show he is smart.
Let's fire all the politicians and use our computers to directly control the government..
-=Julian=-
NT admins get paid a fraction of what Unix admins get paid. The whole premis behind NT is lower cost of ownership. Translate this, cheaper labor. As for Linux admins, their time is comming
-Master Switch, one more element in the machine
Did he say Windows has richer system administration?? *snicker*
Oh Bill Bill Bill *shaking head*
Linux is what Unix was 20 years ago??
Oh PUUUULLLLEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAASSSSSEEEEEEE
Bill Gates is just an ignorant, stupid, moronic, blind pissant with too much money.
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