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Grateful Dead MP3
Vertigo1 writes
"The Grateful Dead are releasing their next album in
MP3 Format"
Not surprising considering they actually encourage bootlegging.
But more importantly, another group (albeit a somewhat defunct
one) hobbing on the bandwagon. A little bit more intertia
to help push the industry towards the inevitable.
I would give all the other bands about 2 years before they have no other option but to release in mp3 format :)
The GD have always known that if anything is worth anything, it is worth more if it is given away for free. BUT who says they will release it for free? Besides, the Greatful dead are their own record label. No one dictates to them what they can do artisically. BRING ON THE FREEDOM!!! You know that mp3's are mainstream when someone like Garth Brooks starts putting music on mp3 format. GD are far from mainstream.
..."when the musis stops it's yours."
Bootlegging what asshole? They gave us their musi c, and retained no rights (when it's done it's yours). Let;s go to sugarmegs.org and download what's in the public domain.
While you may have a point, let me clarify one issue:
Intertia is to angular motion as mass is to linear motion. That is, inertia is a body's tendancy to resist change in its angular motion, while mass is a body's tendancy to resist change in its linear motion.
But who cares, really? It was a figure of speech int he first place...
...the music never stopped and this is nothing but _good_ news.
Intertia is to angular motion as mass is to linear motion. That is, inertia is a body's tendancy to resist change in its angular motion, while mass is a body's tendancy to resist change in its linear motion.
Inertia is a body's tendency to resist changes in linear velocity, and is proportional to mass (from a Newtonian perspective anyway).
There will never quite be anything like the Dead...
...no matter how much entities like the RIAA would wish it away.
seems to me most of those are .ra files...
Saying that the Dead encourage(d) "bootlegging" is not quite right. If you say "bootleg" to someone, they typically think of one of those shady-looking CDs/tapes/etc. that people sell under the table - note the word "sell"; someone is selling the recording and making a profit. What the Dead encouraged was people taping their shows but trading them freely (they also encouraged using quality tape and so forth, IIRC.) For the most part, people agreed to the Dead's request only to trade, and never sell, the tapes. That's why it became the phenomenon it did, and encouraged other bands like Phish, DMB etc. to allow taping. (You can probably see a parallel between selling/trading the tapes and hoarding/sharing the software a la RMS, but I'll let you explore that tangent for yourselves.)
There's a great article on a pretty good Linux humor/satire site comparing this to the rise of MP3 trading and talking about how the music industry will be affected in the long haul. However, the copyright terms specifically prohibit linking to it or reprinting any part of it on slashdot. Maybe I'll link to it somewhere else and then link to that link. :)
mp3 is yesterday's news. Besides, they sound lame. NeXT.
Check out www.deadabase.com they have lots of show s in mp3 also. The best thing about all live Dead mp3s is that they are public domain so nobody can ever stop their flow.
Hopefully no one will invent a compression
format to transfer the deadhead smell.
dh3 ?
alt.binaries.gdead is one of my favorite places :-) Always lots of shows there
This new album should be a nice continuation of the good vibes from Furthur and something to tide us Deadheads over until the remaining members of the Dead reform to play the Great Pyramids on NYE.
Yes, Virginia, there really is a CowboyNeal.
And who says the Dead are defunct?
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The Greatful Dead have a very large and popular body of work. By adding their work to the legal MP3 community, they are increasing the [metaphorical] mass of the community, and therefore the inertia of the community.
The larger and more popular the body of legally distributable MP3s are, the harder it is for the RIAA and other organizations to fight the movement. I would call this inertia.
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Methinks that bands who have already cashed in and have as much money as they're likely to need (Bowie, the Dead) are going to lead the way in making mp3 a more popular "legit" format.
Personally, I think it'd be cool if this all pans out in the bands having to tour more and make their money that way. I'm sick of bands showing up once every two years for a two-month tour of six major cities to promote a new album and raking it in through record sales.
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Why is it illegitimate for bands to derive income from recordings?
I'm sick of bands showing up once every two years for a two-month tour of six major cities to promote a new album and raking it in through record sales.
The bands that tour like this constitute 0.0001% of bands. What about the rest?
How is your band doing?
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Since Garcia died I'm sure it won't be that great, but their name will likely propel this news into the mainstream!
This might change the minds of a few that think the RIAA is right to create a non-existant need, and prop up a dying industry, after all how can you think of thge Dead as the evil bad guy.
Novel theory: Modern Man evolved from psychopath
Check out www.sugarmegs.org. Some good shows - they fill a CDR quite nicely
mp3 icon is good... now we need a dumb-patent-story icon . :P
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Wouldn't that be "hopping" on the bandwagon?
Now i know why people do that first-post crap, there are few things as depressing as seeing an empty slashdot comment page...
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The blurb for this story wasn't quite right.
This is a _bonus track_ being released, not an album. And of course its not the Grateful Dead, which no longer exist, it is The Other Ones, a great band consisting of some former GD members and friends. As has been mentioned already there is an active MP3 trading scene for Grateful Dead music and the music of other taper friendly bands. Its the natural progression from using the net to distribute lists of tapes to trade to actually trading the music over the net. One more way to put the post office out of business.
That the Dead (well, remaining members of the band grouped as The Other Ones) are doing this is cool, but didn't the Beasties already steal their thunder on this?
I went to two Other Ones shows last year (Camden and the first one at Mountain View) and thought they were quite good -- and I was at over 200 shows over the years.
By the by, one of the June 1986 shows at the Greek Theatre at Berkeley plays a role in Cliff Stoll's book "The Cuckoo's Egg." He was a modest sysadmin at LBL, toiling away trying to track down the wily Pre-Cambrian Cracker D00dz (turned out they were from Chaos in Germany) when he heard the band playing outside his window and went down to listen to the show in Strawberry Meadow . . . No kernel hacker he! (They were all in the pit zooming along with Playin' in the Band).
When Jerry died that era had already been on the wane for some time. I think the band made the right decision to gracefully exit before another ABEND. I had already been drifting away from all of that for some time, nowadays I spin house, Detroit techno and the odd bit of old skool jungle. But I do recommend The Other Ones, those were nice shows last year.
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One in particular is Day by the River (DBR), from Athens GA. They have their own mp3 page which has not only samples from their CD "Fly", but also live cuts from various shows.
http://www.daybytheriver.com/samples.html
Now that there are utilities to load the Rio with MP3 files, I'm curious about the Rio's memory. It seems like it's been hyped as having 2x its actual storage capacity.
According to Diamond Multimedia web site, the $200 Rio only holds 32 megs in flash rom.
At 128 Kbits/sec, the MPEG 1 Layer 3 compression rate most widely used out there, that's just over 1/2 an hour of music, not an hour.
Do the math:
128Kbits per second = 16K bytes per second
= 960K bytes per minute
= 57600K bytes per hour
= 67200K bytes per 70 minutes
Note that the Linux utilities can't yet access add-on flash ROM, which is about an extra $100 for 32 more MBs.
I know its not nice, but...
I think you mean a little more force... Inertia is the physical, erm, force, to prevent you from moving, or keep you from stopping. So if the industry is to say, change directions, you would apply more force to act on the mass, which is displayed as inertia...
=)
I'm a geek...
Of course, I could be wrong too...
Twinkie
I think the word is "hobbled".
They're too old to be doing much hopping.