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KDE 1.1.1 is out

Well, the title says all - a new version of KDE is out with many bugs fixed, better stability, and imporved internet connectivity. Here is the press release and the changelog . You can download the files here (people with Redhat 6.0 Please check this doc). I hope that Linuxberg will have those files really quick.

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  1. Apt friendly debian packages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    Nice to see the debian packages in there, but could they include a Packages.gz and structure the directory (even sym link it) so that I can add a line in my apt/sources.list. - Any way keep up the great work KDE team.

  2. Good stuff! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4

    KDE is one of the largest, most active and most successful open source projects. We owe a lot to those guys (any gals?).

    There is tentative talk about GNOME compatibility/convergence, which is excellent.

    Interesting thing about KDE is that it is now entering uncharted waters - the "chasing taillights" days are past them and the team is now doing new, innovative things, which tends to be the exception with open source projects.

    I've lurked on the KDE mailing lists for some time. The development team is quite upset about the bad rap they get at slashdot and other such forums. This is really unfortunate. These are great people quietly doing great things. Be generous, hey?

  3. KDE-1.1.1 on Red Hat: The 5.x Packager Speaks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5

    Hi

    I ( duncan@kde.org) *AM* the packager of the KDE-1.1.1 RPM Packages for RedHat 4.2, 5.0. 5.1., 5.2 systems, that are currently available for your enjoyment at :
    ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/1.1.1/distributio n/rpm

    These packages are in the series produced by the independent (NOT RedHat-affiliated) redhat-rpm section of the KDE Packagers during the long period when Red Hat felt that KDE was not suitable for their distribution.

    We aimed to provide a simple clean installation of KDE on top of a standard RedHat 4.2, 5.0, 5.2,and 5.2 system, and still support theses systems.
    Our goal was to give the user an installation that did all the configuration necessary, with the minimum modification of RedHat's own setup. Judging by user feedback, and reviews contrasting KDE's installation (on RedHat) to that of e.g., gnome-1.0, I think we at least partly succeded.

    KDE-1.1.1 is a "minor" (bugfix) release cleaning up little things that weren't quite right in KDE-1.1, but will be the "stable" desktop for the next 8-12 months while KDE-2.0 (with Corba, Koffice. qt-2.0, etc) is in development. Its release is significant as this will be the stable face of KDE for quite a while (there may be one more minor KDE-1.2 bugfix release at some point), but basically the developers have left 1.x for 2.0 development.


    As far as RedHat 6.0 KDE support is concerned, they have in principle joined the ranks of Suse, Caldera, DLD, Mandrake, etc who package and support KDE themselves. (Well, not quite, as these others make KDE the default desktop) This takes the responsibility for RH6.0 KDE support out of the hands of the KDE Packagers Team.

    We will continue to support RedHat 5.2, 5.1, 5.0 (and, if anyone requests it, 4.2), as RedHat will only handle KDE support on 6.0 and later.

    I am sure they will do their best to make the KDE experience on RedHat 6.0 as easy as the one we have tried to give users on RedHat 5.x, and hope their packaging will allow the replacement of Gnome by KDE simple for those of us who wish to exercise freedom of choice to do this.

    However, RedHat 6.0 rpm packages do *NOT* follow the packaging scheme I introduced with the KDE-1.1 release, where the optional KDE applications are all separated into individual RPM subpackages, so the user has complete control over exactly which optional KDE components are installed.

    The RedHat 6.0 packages follow the "traditional" KDE packaging scheme of 10 collections of applications, where if a collection is installed, you get all its members. My understanding is that RedHat wanted to keep the KDE packaging more analogous to the way gnome was packaged. (A "level playing field"?)

    The advisory from the kde ftp site quoted here is for people with KDE on RedHat 5.x systems who wish to upgrade to RedHat 6.0. Since I do not know whether RedHat 6.0 KDE packages "know about" the structure of our RedHat 5.x packages, we are advising people with upgrade from 5.x to 6.0 to use our "uninstall-kde" script to remove our packages first. This will *NOT* remove any of their personal KDE settings.


    RedHat 6.0 ships with "almost" the final KDE-1.1.1 release; If you want a true KDE-1.1.1 release for RedHat 6.0, you must wait for RedHat to provide it, but the only differences will be very minor


    Hmmm, this posting got rather long-winded!

    Thanks for your patience!





  4. Qt, KDE licenses by Ray+Dassen · · Score: 3
    Or is the next version of QT supposed to be Open Source?

    Qt 2.0 will be released under the QPL 1.0 which is a DFSG-free / Open Source license. ( development snapshots are already available licensed under the QPL)

    The QPL 1.0 is however incompatible with the GPL (Debian's analysis still holds for QPL 1.0). Thus, to redistribute binaries, an exception clause is needed like pi-address has:

    Additionally, you are granted permission to assume, for the purposes of distributing this program in object code or executable form under Section 3 of the GNU Public License, that the QT library is normally distributed with the major components of the operating system on which the executable or object code runs.

    The KDE developers are reportedly preparing a different license change that will resolve this conflict.

  5. Re:versioning to oblivion... by benmhall · · Score: 3

    Dramatic version updates.... like jumping from 0.30 over night to 0.90, quickly followed by a few 0.9.x (all of which made their way to slashdot) and then a premature 1.0 that hung ALL OF THE TIME while segfaulting and core dumping?

    Why is it that KDE gets no respect? It's stable, it's fast, it works well. If they had NOT released a 1.1.x, than all of the /. whinners would be complaining about how they aren't releasing anything new.

    I wish people could appreciate KDE for what they have accomplished.

  6. Re:versioning to oblivion... by sjvn · · Score: 3

    Hey, give them a break.

    A lot of Linux folks are learning that while being technically better is great, you've got to play marketing games as well if you want your GUI, tool, what have you, to be seen.

    KDE didn't call it KDE 2000 or 2.0, it was a first announcement, made its point and that was that. Were that all press releases so down to earth!

    Steven, Senior Technology Editor, Sm@rt Reseller


  7. Re:Another Version ? I'M BEGINING TO FEEL SICK! by _Stryker · · Score: 3

    No one is forcing you to upgrade. Do you upgrade your Linux kernel everytime a new version comes out? Judging from your post, I'd say that you probably don't. There is no need to upgrade your kernel everytime a new release comes out, unless it fixes something that you have had problems with. If you are not having any problems with your KDE software, then there is no need for you to upgrade. If, on the other hand, there have been fixes that would benefit you, then you should upgrade.

    It is all about choice, you have the choice to upgrade if you need to. With many other systems (such as Winblows) you do not have that choice. You are at the mercy of the company that sells the product to come out with a fix (called upgrade) for problems (sometimes very serious problems) with the product. Sometimes you may have to wait months, or even years for these fixes. I, for one, prefer the way that many Open Source projects work... release quickly and release often!
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