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1 Million Word Perfect/Linux Downloads
Armin writes "Corel says that as of Wednesday, a free
version of its WordPerfect 8 for Linux
software has surpassed the 1 million
download mark, another harbinger of
Linux's growing popularity. " Ya know, ever since I graduated,
I haven't needed a word processor.. vim seems to be just
fine. But apparently a million of ya disagree. Pretty
excellent.
Posted by NJViking:
/usr/local/wp8 (or whereever you installed WP)
Skip, I have an Epson Stylus Color 600 printer at home and ran into the same problem as you. You have to go to the Corel site and download the WP printer drivers for the Epson Stylus Color, unzip it and rename it and put it in
The only problem with WP8 is, the fonts frankly suck! I wish there could be proper TrueType and Type 1 fonts for it. Courier and times new roman are ugly.
-= NJV =-
I think it is a accounting thing since the whole issue is being used to show Linux's usage numbers. Since 1991, Microsoft counted copies of OS/2 shipments in its number of copies of Windows 3.x units shipped. How could one show OS/2 gaining ground when Microsoft could show there was ALWAYS more Windows versions being sold and the gap never changed. The desire to get these numbers right makes for a more informed descission. Because of who the competition is I think using the numbers as they were used is a good thing. Today. I don't want Linux being another Windows. Choice and interoperability is what we should be after. The right tool for the right job and not one tool for every job (or change the job). IMHO
"Anyone who stands out in the middle of a road looks like roadkill to me." --Linus
Well... I agree the ones they give away for free are next to useless, but that's just a hook to get you to buy the CD. Sucks, but hey, they are a for-profit company.
No driver for my Canon BJC 4000 [...] if it would print using the print system I ALREADY HAVE!
You can get it to print vanilla postscript by using the Apple LaserWriter driver. That's what we did at my office because the HP LaserJet 5M driver was icky...
Word import sucks. It mangles anything more complex than simple paragraphs, and the fonts all go to hell.
Well, yeah, that's because you only have a dozen fonts or so. See the first point.
The interface was clearly designed by aliens. It's even more counterintuitive than Word for christ's sake.
Really? I didn't think it was that bad. Matter of opinion I suppose.
Given that I have a 32M machine at home, this thing blows StarOffice right out of the water. I won't be buying the CD, as I really have almost no need for a WP anyways (LaTeX will do fine in a pinch), but WP seems very nice to me. Mind you, I haven't tried Applix.
And all of this may become academic when KOffice matures. I've used some of the prereleases. They're crashy (as of 2 months ago, anyways) but they look mighty fine... KOffice, along with Mozilla, is the app I'm most looking forward to maturing. I think it'll do a lot for Open Source software.
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Use ghostscript to translate the postscript into what your printer uses.
That's the nice thing about Ghostscript. You only configure it once, and that's it. Then you just have to tell UNIX apps to send postscript to that printer and things'll print out purrfectly every time. }:)
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If you've already formed an opinion about Word Perfect on Linux, ignore this. If you're curious about one Joe User's experience, here it is.
:)
I've used both ApplixWare and StarOffice. 99% of my need for an office productivity suite is the word processor. Accurate importing of MS Word docs is nice because it saves me having to use my spouse's PC.
ApplixWare and StarOffice both have fine word processors which meet most of my needs. For me, though, ApplixWord seems to have a few bugs in the MS Word import. StarOffice works a little better, but it's just too much. IMHO, StarOffice comes close to being an operating system all by itself. This is totally subjective, but I'm not looking for an office suite on Linux that makes it feel like I'm using Windows (a "start" button?).
I downloaded Corel's Word Perfect for Linux and found that it's a perfect fit. It's very intuitive. It has everything I want in a word processor with minimal feature bloat (no talking paperclip). So far, it has done a good job of reading/writing MS-format documents.
For me, at least, Corel's free WP trial has worked perfectly. I'm ordering the CD.
BTW -- I like vim too for code/HTML/text editing. It's just that WYSIWYG is easier when I'm creating invoices, proposals, and other "business" documents. Maybe someday I'll be able to pay someone to do that stuff for me.
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I do all my manipulation through PBM and a HEX
editor on the
it, then edit, then review it, and keep doing it
until I get it looking write.
And did I mention that I'm a moron who thinks he's cool because he can do this and wastes his time doing it, and thumbs his nose at the "little people" who use GUI tools?
I mean, if you're going to go the text editor route, atleast use TeX/LaTeX, not HTML/Netscape-print. (if you're doing it for print publishing)
Does anyone have the scoop on when Corel is planning to release a *modern* version of its Office Suite for Linux?
...
Word is that Corel's new distribution will use Debian and Qt - strange mix, but a good one. I would be willing to pay money for a Qt version of Word Perfect or even a text mode version for Linux like the trusty old WP 5.1 for DOS. (I still have the DOS floppies and may reinstall it after 5 years and run it under DosEmu.) *Anything* but this horrible motif port of its Windows product which is butt-ugly, slow, buggy and awkward to use.
The fact that over 1 million people have downloaded this dog of a product shows how desperate Linux users are for desktop apps. Desperate people will try anything
Corel has a reputation for porting products to other platforms and then "going back to its roots" and leaving its users flapping in the wind. Remember the ports of Word Perfect to Amiga and OS2? Users begged and pleaded for Corel to keep supporting and upgrading Word Perfect on these platforms but were ignored - even at a time when relative to the total number of personal computers in the world Amiga and Os2 had a larger market share than Linux does today.
Corel - put up or shut up. Where are the screenshots of your new desktop? Is there a home page with information about release dates or features? I understand that a development team in Ireland is working on this project. This is encouraging because the team is removed from the main office and may have some chance of doing it right for a change, without the intervention of pointy-haired managers who, in the name of short-term cost-cutting, almost cost Word Perfect the whole show a few years ago.
I am willing to give Corel another chance after having been betrayed 3 times on 3 different platforms. But, Corel, your washed-out port of Word Perfect for Windows to unix is not the way to build a loyal user base on the Linux platform.
former DOS, Amiga and OS2 Word Perfect user
Well... who cares how many people attempted to download it? For all we know, it was just a couple of guys with a fast line and amazingly bad luck trying to download it and failing every time...
The real question is how many people acutally registered the thing so that they could use it legally? I know they have the numbers to this, but Im sure it would be somewhat embarassing compared to the "1 million" that tried to download it.
Arrgh! Will you guys (Rob ESPECIALLY ... you've said this same thing twice in two days) get a clue?
Word processors do fonts, layers, colors, pasteup, image layout, flow text around graphics and along curving lines, and other sorts of things you might like to have if you're doing something like wedding or graduation invitations, newsletters, flyers, advertising, etc., etc.
Would you really prefer a plain A9 typewritten notice over a beautiful invitation, or an eye-catching advertisement or resume? I notice Slashdot doesn't use plain ASCII text in its banner ads... I wonder why?
Plain ASCII text is perfect for certain things (programming, email, etc), but when you need a hard copy of something, you very rarely mean "type this up and print it out so it looks like it came from a dot-matrix printer."
Sure, so it doesn't quite involve only a text editor, but every single report I ever had to hand in during my time at uni. was typed using vi, with LaTeX markup. Strangely, Word-using lusers often commented how much better my reports looked too =).
And yes, I used graphs, diagrams and bitmaps in my documents as well (using Gnuplot, Xfig and XV respectively... =)
If vi and the command-line oriented LaTeX are too much then I'd recommend a peek at Lyx, though...
Sorry but that had to be said. Todays word processors keep trying to be full blown publishers and 90% of the users don't need that stuff. I remember that days when word processors did things like spelling and grammer checking and basic layout stuff for sending letters. I would use Ventura Publisher to take that text for font, layout and the likes if I wanted brochures and polished documents. The word processors were fast and the publisher full capable. Today you have slow word processors that 90% of the users only use 10% of the features and publisher packages are harder to find and more expensive because people try to make word processors do thing they just weren't supposed to do.
"Anyone who stands out in the middle of a road looks like roadkill to me." --Linus
Actually WordPerfect/Linux is more like a mini Office Suite, it comes with all the spreadsheet functions that I will ever need to use (for example, calculating mortgages, etc.) I am also using it as my little database program (for sorting tables, addresses). The search capability of the Linux version is actually much better than the Windows version. Its macro capability is not nearly as good as the Windows version, but, to me, is more than adequate. Also do forget its high-octane equation and graphic capabilities.
The main problem is, very few Linux users know about these scrects, or know how to take advantage of them. A WordPerfect/Linux book (WP/Linux Bible) by one of the best writers in the Windows world will come out in July. I strongly recommend that you should at least just browse it and see the powerful functions that it provides. It's more than just a wordprocessor.
I have been using WordPerfect/Linux for several months now. I am very glad to have it as a showcase for Linux. It sends a very strong message that a native Linux program, when ported properly, can be so much faster (on the same machine)and customizable/flexible than its Windows counterpart. But more importantly, it gives you a feeling that Linux is no doubt that its is a much more solid OS than that MicroJunk.
For serious documents, markup languages are the way to go.
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I agree with Rob. I haven't used a word processor in a long time under Linux. If I need to write something fancy, I've got vim (to write html), netscape, and a printer.
LyX is an almost WYSIWYG (actually it's WYSIWYM: What You See Is What You Mean) Latex editor which can output PostScript...
I have to say that of everything I tried, WP8 was the worst. Some flaws:
- The fonts are unreadable. Totally.
- No driver for my Canon BJC 4000. Not an exotic uncommon printer, I'd say. Not to mention the fact that I wouldn't even need a damn driver if it would print using the print system I ALREADY HAVE!
- Word import sucks. It mangles anything more complex than simple paragraphs, and the fonts all go to hell.
- The interface was clearly designed by aliens. It's even more counterintuitive than Word for christ's sake. I'm not looking for a word processor that challenges my perceptions about reality, thanks.
For a while, she was actually using VMWare to boot Win95 and use Word, because there just wasn't a useful word processor out there for Linux. Now I set her up with StarOffice, which, while I agree wholeheartedly with those who want it not to be it's own damn OS, is a pretty good word processor. It's bloated, but I'm running a dual PPro with 128M RAM, so that's not too much of a problem. Otherwise, it imports well, and has what she needs. But why, oh why, is there no way to just run the word processing part of it?I wonder how many of the people who complain about StarOffice being too bloated prefer to run emacs? Heh.
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