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CmdrTaco
on from the malloc(way-to-much) dept.
An anonymous reader wrote in to say
"There is a story about 1 Gigabyte RAM-Modules from Samsung. Samsung finished development, shipping is due. They are going to use a 0.13-micron process. The article is in German, use Babelfish. "
This awesome hardware might be coming out, but don't except drivers for it. It appears to me that no Samsung products have available drivers for download anywhere on the internet.
Why would you need drivers for RAM? All you would need is a chipset that supports 4GB RAM and a processor and OS that can access that much RAM. Perhaps the Xeon, Alpha, UltraSparc, G3/G4, etc.
-- Don't lead me into temptation... I can find it myself.
Re:No support.
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Anonymous Coward
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Um... what kind of driver do you use for your RAM? Maybe that would explain why my windows boxes crash all the time... my RAM driver is out of date! Silly me.
Normally, I wouldn't even respond to such a rediculous post (Drivers for RAM?!?!? WTF?), but I have to disagree with the statement that Samsung doesn't provide drivers for their products. Last year, I bought a Samsung monitor and was able to find modelines for X ON THEIR WEBSITE. Whatever else Samsung might do, at lest they are making an effort to have some of their products supported in the *NIX world.
I was not referring to RAM exactly. I was referring to the overall availability of drivers for Samsung products. Sure, one or two of you might find the right drivers from them, but the majority dosen't. And Greyfox has an excellent point in his response. Back in the day.
I read through the article and I think it is in fact a gigabit module, which in fact have been around for awhile. I am still not saying that I would turn it down however...:-)
Are we reading the same article? It starts off talking about 1 gig chips. Then it mentions using 8 to make a 1 gigabyte SIMM, instead of 16 as is done currently. It also mentions using 2 or 4 chips to make 128 or 256 MB DRAMs, this lowering costs over using 8 or 16 chips.
At this rate, we may be maxing out memory before most processors are sold with 64-bit addressing. EMM/XMM, anybody?:-)
-- Ooh, a sarcasm detector. Oh, that's a real useful invention.
I remember reading last fall a press release from Samsung, saying they had in the make a 1Gbit chip (which would make 1Gbyte modules...), and that it would be commercially available in the spring. I was just about wondering if they would keep the promise. Looks like they did.
Re:Gigabyte?... both is o.k. :-)
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Anonymous Coward
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I read the article, and in fact it talks about Gigabit. But they mean _chips_ and on a regular SDRAM module, you have got 16 of them. So 16 x 1 Gigabit makes 2 GigaBYTES. Both is correct - Gigabit and Gigabyte:-)
Bits vs. Bytes, Chips vs. Modules
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jurgen
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The article talks about a 1 GigaBIT chip. Modern dynamic RAM is always meassured in bits because the chips are bit-addressable and do not usually store a complete byte... instead, if you have 8 chips on a module, for example, of every byte one bit is stored in each chip. This news is remarkable for several reasons. One, currently the largest chips are 256Mb (lowercase b for bits) and two, they are using an 0.13 micron process, down from 0.18, which means they can get more chips out of a wafer and therefor prices will go down again. In other words, good news, Moore's law holds again, yawn.
You youngsters may not remember the dark ages of the late 80's, back when you got an ISA card and a bunch of RAM chips that you had to mount on the card by hand. That board (The Intel AboveBoard) specifically needed a driver and would not work with more advanced operating systems such as OS/2.
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What kind of half-assed comment is this? Can't read German? What a waste of bandwidth.
Article assumes readers have technical knowledge
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Inhume
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Hey there, Chuckles, if you had an iota of sense you'd know that DIMMs consist of multiple (in this case, 8) memory chips working in unison. 1Gbit = 128MB, thus 128MB x 8 chips = 1024MB, or, 1GB of RAM. Was that simple equation too tough to follow?
The only mistake they made was the assumption that plebes like you had enough brain power to figure this out on your own. They were obviously mistaken, but you know what they say about assuming anything. I'm sure the editors will mend their ways and mollycoddle to stupid brats in the future, and I apologize on their behalf [end sarcasm].
Here's an excerpt from the Korea Times article. Samsung says it will save about $4B on the smaller chip size:
Samsung Electronics yesterday announced it has developed the world's first 1GB DDR SDRAM (double data rate synchronous dynamic random access memory) chip.
DDR is an improvement on traditional synchronous memory devices including DRAMs, graphics, and SRAMs.
Samsung's newly developed DDR operates at a data processing speed of 350MHz, a technical breakthrough which brings enhanced SDRAM to the server, workstation and data communications system markets.
The high-value-added product, which is worth about 3.48 million won per gram, is expected to be used for remote conferences, high-definition TV, satellite communications and e-money.
DDR was developed as the next-generation SDRAM, which meets the evolutionary system bandwidth requirements in a cost-effective manner.
Samsung's 1GB DDR product is equivalent to four 256MB DRAMs in terms of memory capacity, with the capability of storing the equivalent of 8,000 newspaper pages.
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"If we have to go on with these damned quantum jumps, then I'm sorry that I ever got involved" - Erwin Schrodinger
Ich liebe die Babelfische.
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HP+LoveJet
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I love Babelfi.
It is amazing, as fast it compact, idiomatische Prosa in each possible language too farcical pseudo satire in any different one to make can.
I assume that it is remarkable that the bear Waltzes at all and that I look a gift horse in the opening, but she is still of the translation automated by the old vodka/meatfiasco from the early days reminding.
-- spawn_of_yog_sothoth
Just in time for win2k & Office 2K!
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CodemonkeyUK
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Just think of all those wonderful features that the excellent Microsoft Corporation can add to their operating systems and "productivity" suites when everybody has 512 gigabytes of ram!
Re:Article assumes readers have technical knowledg
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Hermanetta
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What are you bitching about? Where is the problem?
Who cares if they said 1Gb x 8 = 1GB or 128GB x 8 = 1GB Its the same damn thing.
It's actually more correct to say 1Gb x N because is describes the layout and type of chip, and is what everyone always uses. Someone might make 1Gb x 16 or 1Gb x 32 modules. You guys are too damn angy.:)
Go choke the chicken or something.
- Herman
Re:Article assumes readers have technical knowledg
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Hermanetta
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Sorry, NM:)
I see the other posts now. Ya bits, bytes, little nibbles. Fun to read.
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This awesome hardware might be coming out, but don't except drivers for it. It appears to me that no Samsung products have available drivers for download anywhere on the internet.
Umm, the translation said they're 1 gigaBIT chips, not one gigaBYTE as the header tells us.
"Oh, I hope he doesn't give us halyatchkies," said Heinrich.
I read through the article and I think it is in fact a gigabit module, which in fact have been around for awhile. I am still not saying that I would turn it down however... :-)
I remember reading last fall a press release from Samsung, saying they had in the make a 1Gbit chip (which would make 1Gbyte modules...), and that it would be commercially available in the spring. I was just about wondering if they would keep the promise. Looks like they did.
I read the article, and in fact it talks about Gigabit. But they mean _chips_ and on a regular SDRAM module, you have got 16 of them. So 16 x 1 Gigabit makes 2 GigaBYTES. Both is correct - Gigabit and Gigabyte :-)
The article talks about a 1 GigaBIT chip. Modern dynamic RAM is always meassured in bits because the chips are bit-addressable and do not usually store a complete byte... instead, if you have 8 chips on a module, for example, of every byte one bit is stored in each chip. This news is remarkable for several reasons. One, currently the largest chips are 256Mb (lowercase b for bits) and two, they are using an 0.13 micron process, down from 0.18, which means they can get more chips out of a wafer and therefor prices will go down again. In other words, good news, Moore's law holds again, yawn.
You youngsters may not remember the dark ages of the late 80's, back when you got an ISA card and a bunch of RAM chips that you had to mount on the card by hand. That board (The Intel AboveBoard) specifically needed a driver and would not work with more advanced operating systems such as OS/2.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
What kind of half-assed comment is this? Can't read German? What a waste of bandwidth.
Hey there, Chuckles, if you had an iota of sense you'd know that DIMMs consist of multiple (in this case, 8) memory chips working in unison. 1Gbit = 128MB, thus 128MB x 8 chips = 1024MB, or, 1GB of RAM. Was that simple equation too tough to follow?
The only mistake they made was the assumption that plebes like you had enough brain power to figure this out on your own. They were obviously mistaken, but you know what they say about assuming anything. I'm sure the editors will mend their ways and mollycoddle to stupid brats in the future, and I apologize on their behalf [end sarcasm].
You would figure a message board full of Linux babies would be able to figure out that 128MB x 8 is indeed 1 GIG of RAM.
Stick to your shell scripts boys...
So does anyone know the MSRP on those?
Here's an excerpt from the Korea Times article. Samsung says it will save about $4B on the smaller chip size:
Samsung Electronics yesterday announced it has developed the
world's first 1GB DDR SDRAM (double data rate synchronous
dynamic random access memory) chip.
DDR is an improvement on traditional synchronous memory devices
including DRAMs, graphics, and SRAMs.
Samsung's newly developed DDR operates at a data processing
speed of 350MHz, a technical breakthrough which brings enhanced
SDRAM to the server, workstation and data communications system
markets.
The high-value-added product, which is worth about 3.48 million won
per gram, is expected to be used for remote conferences,
high-definition TV, satellite communications and e-money.
DDR was developed as the next-generation SDRAM, which meets
the evolutionary system bandwidth requirements in a cost-effective
manner.
Samsung's 1GB DDR product is equivalent to four 256MB DRAMs
in terms of memory capacity, with the capability of storing the
equivalent of 8,000 newspaper pages.
---- "If we have to go on with these damned quantum jumps, then I'm sorry that I ever got involved" - Erwin Schrodinger
I love Babelfi.
It is amazing, as fast it compact, idiomatische Prosa in each possible language too farcical pseudo satire in any different one to make can.
I assume that it is remarkable that the bear Waltzes at all and that I look a gift horse in the opening, but she is still of the translation automated by the old vodka/meatfiasco from the early days reminding.
spawn_of_yog_sothoth
Just think of all those wonderful features that the excellent Microsoft Corporation can add to their operating systems and "productivity" suites when everybody has 512 gigabytes of ram!
I can't wait!
Posted by MaverickPl:
to much Big Lewbosky for you buddy...
What are you bitching about?
:)
Where is the problem?
Who cares if they said
1Gb x 8 = 1GB or 128GB x 8 = 1GB
Its the same damn thing.
It's actually more correct to say 1Gb x N because is describes the layout and type of chip, and is what everyone always uses. Someone might make 1Gb x 16 or 1Gb x 32 modules. You guys are too damn angy.
Go choke the chicken or something.
- Herman
Sorry, NM :)
I see the other posts now. Ya bits, bytes, little nibbles. Fun to read.
Still fun to say "go choke your chicken though."