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Ask Slashdot: Cryptography in Mail software?

Bartmoss asksL: "Obviously, nobody will use encryption if two problems occure: (a) your friends won't be able to read your mail because they don't have crypto, and (b) your software doesn't have crypto. I'm wondering - are there good HOWTO's and info sites on how to plug encryption into leading mail software for UNIX, Mac and Windows? What Windows-Software supports PGP, and which can have PGP support added? Does anybody have information on clients people could use for crypted mails?"

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  1. Don't forget GPG aka GnuPG aka GNU Privacy Guard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Everyone in the GNU/linux world
    should be talking about GPG instead of PGP
    GPG aka GnuPG aka GNU Privacy Guard
    fully openPGP compatible

    http://www.d.shuttle.de/isil/gnupg/
    http://www.gnupg.org

    there is even a wrapper for compatibility with
    pgp 2.6
    http://www.nessie.de/mroth/pgpgpg/

  2. mailcrypt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    For those using Emacs for email, Mailcrypt
    is an excellent tool for integrating PGP
    support. Also, the original author, Pat LoPresti,
    is a nice guy.

  3. Bahhhhhhhhhh! Just Do What I Do! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Develop your own provably secure encryption algorithm, and then whenever you want to send email to a friend, encrypt it 3 or 4 times over with different keys, zip it using InfoZip but change the extension to ".tgz" or ".tar.gz" (very important!), then uuencode it and encrypt the result. Now split the file up into a thousand chunks and intersperse them in an MPEG animation as spurious frames. Take note of which frames have the real data in them and split the numbers up into groups of 4 (this will be important later on). Now place the MPEG on a zip disk, mislabel it as "holiday pictures" (sneaky!) and place in a regular postal envelope. Finally, hire out a Brink's truck and 4 guards to drive the package to the intended recipient. Make each of the 4 guards memorize one group of the MPEG frames without telling them what it is.

    VOILA! One secure email!

  4. PGP4Pine by Indomitus · · Score: 2

    If you use Pine, there is a package called PGP4Pine which you can find at
    freshmeat. It lets you use PGP seamlessly in Pine. I haven't personally had time to set it up but a bunch of my friends use it and recomend it.

    1. Re:PGP4Pine by Lord+of+the+Files · · Score: 2

      I think it's just supposed to simplify it a little. If nothing else its documentation at least explains how to set up the filters, which I never would have figured out on my own.

      --

      God does not play dice - Einstein

      Not only does God play dice, he sometimes throws them where they

  5. Re:Well... by C.Lee · · Score: 2

    Bah. Cryptography in Mail is a joke. It's something to play with, but really isn't all that useful in the real world. Let's face it, unless you're really dealing with really sensitive matters, the hassle involed with encryption isn't worth it, and all it really does is call attention to yourself. Think about it. If I was a goverment agent in charge of snooping through email don't you think that I would have a scanner similar to a virus detector looking for encrypted messages? The scanner may not be able to decrypt the messages, but it could flag and save the headers (including the adresses of the computers sending and receiving the encrypted mail) to a file so they could be investigated later by human field agents.

    I really think you encryption supporters are really operating under a false sense of security. If the goverment really wants to get you, they will. End of story.

  6. An old (may 1996) summary of secure MUAs (etc) by Piete · · Score: 2
    Paul Leyland and I did an investigation for Secure Email for ac.uk, but the powers that be decided `secure email is not wanted' :-(

    For MUA integration, see Mail User Agent Survey

  7. If you don't like the mappings, fix them... by Nugget94M · · Score: 2

    You don't even need to delve into the source. Here is a sample muttrc which will redefine all the key bindings to their pine equivalents.

  8. You simply cannot beat mutt by Nugget94M · · Score: 3

    Insofar as unix is concerned, you simply cannot beat mutt ( http://www.mutt.org/) for a pgp-aware mailer.

    If you're currently using either pine or elm, you're doing yourself a serious disservice not looking at mutt. It's easier, more flexible, and more powerful than any of the alternatives.

    PGP support is top-notch and native, for both v2 and v5 pgp. Highly recommended.

  9. Outlook & PGP by Amadeus · · Score: 2

    Around here, my friend with windows use Outlook and
    PGP, and I use exmh and GnuPG, and they interoperate
    great!

    --
    -Nick
  10. PGP Links by johnd · · Score: 2

    Have a look at the international PGP home page. Good links here to the standard PGP packages for most platforms. Freshmeat is a good source for Linux specific things.

  11. Re:Well... by Bricius · · Score: 2
    • If I was a goverment agent in charge of snooping through email don't you think that I would have a scanner similar to a virus detector looking for encrypted messages?

    That's exactly the reason why we all should use encryption for _all_ of our messages.
  12. cluebie-freindly windows pgp options... by complex · · Score: 2

    if someone is green to pgp than by far the easiest and most foolproof way to get them up and running is via pgp's native mail client plugins for outlook, outlook express, and eudora.

    my suggestion is eudora light 3.0.6, at www.eudora.com. intutitive interface (remember netscape mail three ugly panes from hell? phooey.) and simple.

    then stop by www.pgpi.com to pick up your preferred pgp version. 6.0.2 freeware works fine for people in the us. you'll want 6.0.2i (the international version) if you want backward compatibility, though. the great 'client selection wizard' will get most people through.

    once you get these two programs up and running exchanging encrypted e-mails is a snap. just click 'encrypt/decrypt' (or sign, or whatever) right in eudora.

    good luck. i've always believed that as more and more people use pgp, the 'digital worth' of each pgp-encrypted message increases. please help as many people as possible to download, use, and support pgp. it helps us all.

    www.pgpi.com
    www.pgp.net
    wwwkeys.pgp.net

  13. Re:Well... by MindStalker · · Score: 2

    What?? having 2 or more 160bit keyID/fingerprint?

    160 bits means approx
    146000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0
    possible.

  14. Encryption incompatible with antivirus sweepers by artg · · Score: 2

    Another barrier to encryption is the use of virus sweepers; some sysadmins are now paranoid about mail viruses, and process all the mail through some filter that gives them a warm fuzzy feeling (and probably little else).

    These systems can't work with encrypted mail (obviously) .. as a result, we've just been asked to remove both encrypters and decrypters from our systems.

    Makes you wonder whether the antiencryption spooks are behind the mail viruses, doesn't it ?

  15. Netscape Conspiciously Absent by hbo · · Score: 2

    Netscape doesn't support PGP encryption. There's been a lot of discussion over at the mozilla crypto newsgroup on the hows and whys. Basically, AOL/Netscape's interpretation of the stupid US cryptography export regulations prevents them from even exposing their API for cryptographic processing. Some folks at NAI volunteered to help out, which elicited some favorable noises on the part of Mozilla, but no visible action. They may be working on it behind the scenes however.

    Netscape Messenger owns a huge share of the Internet email client market. The lack of PGP support is a substantial impediment to the widespread adoption of PGP as a standard for Windows email. I'm not too fond of NAI, but I'd like to see this particular product succeed, since it's in such widespread use on Unix.
    --

    "Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there" - Will Rogers

  16. Re:Well... by gasp · · Score: 3

    I agree that everybody should use encryption all the time. The best analogy I've heard is to snail mail:

    Encryption is an envelope. I notice that almost all snail mail is sent in envelopes instead of postcards.

    I suspect that if most users inherently understood this analogy and the technology underneath, the desire for encryption would be much more widespread.