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RHAD Hires Havoc Pennington
pate writes "It
looks like Red Hat has scooped up another free software
name. According to
this article, Havoc Pennington started work there
yesterday. " He's the guy who does the weekly GNOME summaries,
and is responsible for countless other Good Things(TM) in
GNOME.
Is Havoc his real name? I wish my parents would have given me such a cool name. Maybe I will change my name to mayhem.
Why is Redhat so hated??? What have they done that is so bad? In my opinion they have done nothing but help Linux.
Oh Noe! It Must Be A Conspiracy!
Please. It's been said before, it'll be said again. RedHat has NEVER done ANYTHING proprietary, nor do they show any signs of doing so. They pay quality guys like Alan Cox and Stephen Tweedie to sit at home and hack the kernel, hacks which benefit competing distros. If you don't like their file layout, or RPMs, or whatever that's great. But don't add credibility to the "RMS and his followers are all commies" meme by trying to destroy any Linux company that attempts to make money.
Then don't f*sking use it.
Damn it, you redhat bashers are so ignorant. Even if you use redhat, you can still download all the source you like and install everything that way.
Redhat has done nothing bad to linux. They have tried to contribute what they think is good for it, but nothing has been shoved down your throat. If you don't like it, DON'T USE IT.
If your only problem is that rh is to windows-like, then I guess that means that you only use linux because it is non-windows.
Grow up.
For those of you who aren't on the gtk+ and related devel lists, which I assume is quite a bunch, you ought to know that Havoc is just about the most knowledgeable and consistently helpful person I (and I likely speak for many of us) have encountered on the internet. Period.
I'm slightly amused that he's gone to work for Red Hat, since he's a Debian developer if I'm not mistaken. But I'm sure he'll be happier with a paycheck than without. And maybe the "man who never sleeps" will finally get some sleep...
Good luck, Havoc.
To work on gnome-apt. :-)
Cheers,
- Jim
And how much support did you get with it?
:) Traditional support can only broaden the user base. That's my $0.02
I figure that your $80 goes for the 30 days phone support and 90 days of email support that comes with the package. Which, if you ask me, is a very good thing because most Linux newbies I goad into trying it are confused as hell right from the start.
Why saddened? Do you think that it will affect the quality of his work in some way? Or make him less happy? Personally, it seems that getting paid to do what he's been doing for free all along would make him a happy man - which can only lead to better code. :)
Also, I have no idea why your post was moderated down. I don't think that voicing dislike (err.. strong dislike) for Red Hat qualifies for flamebait. Ah well.
Does this mean Havoc will come to the Cary B&N meetings with the GNOME developers? I may actually come to one now. Just have to find the time . . .
Thats why they force all the developers they hire to only release their software under the RHWDPL (RedHat World Domination Public License). Now that you're on to them, we can foil their evil plans!
Do we really need a news article every time somebody joins or leaves Red Hat? I personally don't care about Rasterman leaving, Havoc Pennington joining, or any of their other personnel decisions.
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This is a rumour that has been around for a while, and it totally unfounded.
At the time RH 6.0 went to press, KDE 1.1 was *not* released. The latest version was 1.1pre1, and that had been released weeks ago, and a number of bugs fixed.
RH asked if we were releasing 1.1 for their deadline, and we weren't.
So, they had a few options:
1) Ship 1.0
2) Ship 1.1pre1
3) Delay RH 6.0 (costly, and practically unfeasible)
4) Get what was in CVS at the time and test it the best they could.
1) Was out of the question. The CVS tuff was a lot more stable.
2) Asked by RH representatives, several KDE developers, (including me) said that the current CVS code was better than 1.1pre1 (it was, IMHO)
3) Not really possible.
4) What they did, *after* asking for advice.
RH acted in what at the time seemed the best possible way given the situation.
And before someone asks: I am no RH fan. I dislike their distribution quite a bit, and have my own grudges with the company's politics, but this is not one of them.
Check out his homepage. His (full) real name is "Robert Sanford Havoc Pennington."
Well, I'm a Duke student and I belong to DULUG (betcha can figure that one out). Every once in a while a lady at Red Hat (don't know what her position is; she seems to have to deal with LUGs) sends out an email to our mailing list saying "Come to the Cary B&N to meet the GNOME developers". I've always had play rehearsal or something, so I've never gone. I'd like to, though.