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Less Television in Online Homes

Shaheen writes "USA Today has an interesting report about how homes that have an Internet connection watch an average of %13 (about an hour) less television than other homes each day. You can read about it here. " What about those of us who forget to turn the TV off while we read our email? The scariest thing to me is that 13% is an hour. Who is watching 10 hours of TV a day?

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  1. TV is for video production... by Izaak · · Score: 3
    ... which brings up an interesting question. I have taken up video production as a hobby, and would like to build a non-linear video editing system around a Linux system. I need pointers toward a linux compatible video capture card, decent digital video camera, etc. I've submitted this question as an Ask SlashDot, but it was rejected. :-( I'm even willing to write software and release it as open-source if thats what it takes to build my studio around Linux, but I need some pointers to get started. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

    Thad

  2. Re:Nielsen Homes by Tackhead · · Score: 4
    Now ask yourself, if you were a TV producer, wouldn't you be interested in which shows people tuned into if they only tuned into one show? Who cares about people who change to a program just because the previous one went to a commercial break.

    You've just hit the nail squarely on the head. The Nielsen Group doesn't want a representative sample of all TV viewers - only the ones that advertisers can sell stuff to. People who watch TV for content aren't part of that group.

    More to the point - the purpose of the Neilsen ratings isn't to tell TV producers what they need to get the eyeballs of the die-hard fans who watch one or two programs religiously - it's to tell advertisers where their dollars will be best-spent. Better to ignore the Babylon 5 fanatic who makes $80K/year and ignores the advertising in order to get the family of four making $30K and spending all their disposable income on the crap that Bratleigh and Snotley see during the commercials (er, the 30-second ones between the 30-minute ones!) every Saturday morning.

    The TV viewer who changes channels when the commercials come on, or who only watches a few hours a week, is like the web surfer who turns off images and/or blocks banner ads. He or she who ignores the marketing is, perforce, not worth marketing to. By contrast, the people who sit, slack-jawed, through every commercial displayed, and who spend several hours a day doing it, regardless of whether the programming is worth watching or not, are a very sought-after market.

    What this has done to the quality of programming is left as an exercise to the reader. Which, of course, is why many of us have abandoned television for the 'net.

    Speaking of which - I loved being able to read a few articles about the 30th anniversary of the moon landing without having to sit through six hours of unending coverage about an inexperienced pilot who Darwinned himself out of the gene pool by being too stupid to trust his instruments instead of his vertigo-addled inner ears.

    But back to your Nielsen experience - it's clear that TV advertisers are just as happy to not have to put up with people like us as we are not to have to put up with people like them. They go where the money is, we go where the content is. 10 years ago, I'd have been worried about this - after all, where do you go for content once all media have been dumbed-down for the slack-jaw set? Thankfully, the answer is right in front of us - we just make and distribute our own damn content, and to hell with anyone who tries to get in our way.

  3. Poll? by InstantCool · · Score: 3
    Who is watching 10 hours of TV a day?

    Sounds like a Slashdot Poll to me.
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  4. Makes sense if you read "person-hours" for "hours" by alkali · · Score: 2
    If there are 2-3 persons in a house, all of whom watch a couple hours of TV a day -- counting morning shows, evening news, prime time, late night talk, VH-1 while cleaning, etc., etc. -- you can easily get to 8 person-hours of TV per day. (Two people watching TV for one hour = two "person-hours.")

    13% of eight person-hours is "about an hour."

  5. Math not your stong suit, Rob? by Doug+Loss · · Score: 3

    If 13% is about an hour, 100% is about 8 hours, not ten.

    Doug Loss

  6. Why I watch less TV by RadarRider · · Score: 2

    One possibility is that they watch less news on TV, using the Web to get their news instead. Also, on the Web, I can pick and choose which stories to read rather than watching/listening to a linear broadcast. I almost never watch the news anymore, except sometimes in the morning. I also haven't received the newspaper in many years.

  7. Grandma's home cookin' by TheRain · · Score: 2

    "Who is watching 10 hours of TV a day?"

    Who is on the internet 24 hours a day ;)

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  8. Re:Canned Laugh Tracks suck!!!!! by EnderWiggnz · · Score: 2

    Interesting thing is, is that the laugh tracks were put in to make the TV viewing experience more /human/. It seems that noone would laugh at tv shows unless people were laughing with them. Shows that have not used a laugh track have almost all perished because noone could find them funny.

    It seems that most people need someone to laugh with them.




    Oh well... i like the net better anyway... tv entertainment pretty much gears towards the lowest common denominator. The shows offer no real life situations, real value, or challenge people to think in any way.

    They also serve to promote the "right" issues. Don't have sex, dont use drugs, smoking is bad, act like everyone else, and you'll be popular.

    Like we need more robots around here.

    Reminds me of a local newspaper article that asked kids what the most important thing they learned in school was this year, and one of them said that, knowing how to say NO to Drugs was the most important thing that they learned.

    Really? Reading, basic math, Science, Real History, all took a back seat to the Anti-Drug message. There's your tax dollars at work!



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  9. uncontrolled study? by jalen · · Score: 2

    Seems to me that the reason households with the internet watch less television has more to do with affluency and education of the household's members, rather than the fact that they have the internet. People with higher education and high incomes tend to watch less television than the rest of the public--and are also more likely to have access to the internet at home.

    Jalen

  10. Math not your stong suit, FascDot? by cpeterso · · Score: 3

    If the decrease in viewing time of 13% is 1 hour, then 1 hour / 0.13 = ~7.69 hours total. That is, 13% of 8 hours is 1.04 hours.

  11. Downfall of TV news? by Ogre · · Score: 2

    It's true that TV news shows tend to speak to a 'lowest common denominator' sort of audience. From their perspective, the more people there are who can understand what they say, the more people will watch their news show. I would think that the loss of viewers at the high end of the scale (i.e., people insulted by the low content level) is probably far outweighed by the gain of viewers in the lower levels.

    In a similar vein, I think that news shows are becoming more and more entertainment-oriented and less informational. Shows like "Hard Copy" have already crossed the line; I hardly count them as 'news shows'. Again, it seems to be a ploy by the networks to attract more viewers, by presenting what they think will be a more enjoyable broadcast. This is also responsible for the high number of 'local interest' news stories, like "Child Athlete of the Week" or somesuch.

    Is this because more people are turning to other sources for their news? Possibly. Personally I find 20 minutes of NPR on the way to work in the morning to be significantly more informative than watching the morning news. Otherwise, if I want headlines, I can find the wire services on several web sites which will also offer basic (or sometimes detailed) analysis. If I want sports news, I can turn to ESPN or their web site. NWS weather is available on many different web sites, usually in more detail than a 20-second weather forecast. It seems that perhaps network television (and newspapers) is becoming outdated as a source of 'hard' news. The only interesting information left for local news shows to cover is local news, which is only of interest to the community.

    Alas, television is still the most commonly available source of information that can be updated instantly, and therefore it remains important. However, we are rapidly reaching the point where as many people have televisions as have Internet connections. I suggest that once we reach that point -- or even before! -- the need for news shows on television drops to near zero.

    As I think I've made clear here, anything that you can get from a television news broadcast, you can get on the web, and usually in a more timely fashion. Network television needs to stop trying to do everything, because they do it all, but they do it all poorly. Stop broadcasting news, because there are plenty of other, better sources. Instead, let's try paying network executives to come up with some actual entertainment.

  12. Re:Reading not your stong suit, Doug? by Jburkholder · · Score: 3

    No, I read it this way:

    Wired homes watch an hour a day, which is 13% less than non-wired homes.

    "Wired homes watch an average of 13% less TV -- about one hour daily -- than others, says the study"

    So... (dusts off calculator) one hour a day being 87% of the 'others' total viewing,

    (lessee 60/x = (100-13)/100 ... x = 68.96 minutes)

    an hour a day is 13% less than 70 minutes a day?
    I find that a lot easier to swallow than people are watching 8-10 hours of tv a day on average!

  13. Eh? by John+Campbell · · Score: 3


    lynn:~$ less television

    television: No such file or directory

    lynn:~$ _



    Methinks I need to get out more...

  14. TELEVISION IS DRUGS by cpeterso · · Score: 2

    Television is a one-way hypnosis machine turning out nation into yuppie zombies. Television shows are just a way get people to watch commercials. The medium is owned by advertisers, looking out for their best interests, not your kids'. Check out Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television for elaboration.

    Commercials and Advertisements are only for unnecessary items. If you need the item, you would go out and find it. Advertisers must create an artificial desire or need for something that you have no need for. Do you see more TV commercials for Coke or for water? You need water to live, you don't need Coke to live. Do you see more TV commercials for Doublemint gum or for vegetables? You need vegetables to live, you don't need Doublemint gum to live.

  15. Re:It's intelligence by dbullock · · Score: 2

    Evidently you've spent no time on IRC.

    Using computers and the net doesn't make you any more intelligent unfortunately. Someone who spends 12 hours a day in IRC and Quake isn't someone I'd rate higher than a TLC/History Channel junkie.

    The tool makes no difference. It's what you use it for.

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  16. Re:Reading not your stong suit, Doug? by Jburkholder · · Score: 3

    >I hope this clears things up for you

    Heh, not in the least. You are going by Rob's synopsis of the article, and not what the article actually said, for one.

    >From this we know that there is a 13% decrease in viewing time, and that this 13% decrease is equal to 1h.

    Nope, the wired family watches an hour a day, which is 13% less than everyone else.

    At least that's the way I read the article.

  17. Re:Try again. by TMB · · Score: 2
    From the hourse's mouth:


    The new study indicates that households with Internet access
    watch, on average, 13% less television than those households that
    are not online. That works out to an estimated 32 hours less of
    television viewing monthly per household.


    So, yes, it is one hour less per day.

    [TMB]
  18. Why Advertising Doesn't Work on the Web by cpeterso · · Score: 3
    Jakob Nielsen has a great column about web usability. He has a number of convincing arguments that web ads do not work. Check out Why Advertising Doesn't Work on the Web and Web Research: Believe the Data.
    • eye-tracking studies find that users never even see the ads
    • click-through rates dropping from 2% to 0.5% in a few years
    • sales data from many sites showing that they usually don't sell a lot to those few users who do click through - paying customers usually arrive in other ways

  19. Re:Reading not your stong suit, Doug? by Jburkholder · · Score: 2

    Well, I can't argue with that, I guess. Man that thing was worded totally bass-ackwards.

    Thank you for clearing that up.

  20. Nielson Homes by Arandir · · Score: 3

    Those folks watching 10 hours of TV a day are the Nielson Homes. For those that don't know, Nielson does the TV ratings. Not just anybody can get a Nielson box to put on top of their set. You have to be a TV junky to get one. It's the average Nielson Home that has the TV one ten hours a day. Half of them have it on longer!

    I was once part of the Nielson "family" for about a week. They kicked me out of the program since I wasn't the "typical television viewer". (Anyone who's ever studied statistics reread that last sentence :-) ) I only watched about six hours of TV a week, so it wasn't enough for them. (About as stupid as Gallop cutting their poll short when they found out I was writing in "none of the above")

    Now ask yourself, if you were a TV producer, wouldn't you be interested in which shows people tuned into if they only tuned into one show? Who cares about people who change to a program just because the previous one went to a commercial break.

    I no longer own a TV. I suddenly realized that I hadn't turned the thing on in six weeks, so I sold it.

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  21. The boredom factor by shaldannon · · Score: 2

    Of course, it does remain that for all the trash talk about net junkies having no life, at least they have some semblance of a life on IRC, /., usenet, etc. When you're sitting in front of the TV for ten hours a day, you don't even have that much human contact. Net junkies interact. Boob tubers don't. When you've seen the same Geiko commercial a dozen times in an hour and the same shows on Discovery/History Channel/A & E that were on last year, or the year before that, or the year before that ...., and the other new programming is mindless drivel, your mind seeks an escape to something less difficult than being productive but more stimulating than the jello-mold-cum-TV set. I think that's why so many people are delving into linux...they are sick of the same old stuff and want to try something a little more interesting. Welcome to the net. Here you don't have to watch rip-fests! Here you can join in them ;)


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  22. The next vegetarians by alkali · · Score: 3
    That's funny, I haven't owned a TV in [BIGNUM] years... There's nothing on TV except [favorite show]... I personally prefer to spend my time engaged in [favorite activity]... It's disgusting that people watch TV when they could be [favorite activity]... When I tell people I don't watch TV, they [express shock, throw fish, etc.]... How tragic that others fail to see how wrong they are and cannot be as [intellectual, life-affirming, socially daring] as I am.

    If you thought the vegetarians were fun, just wait until you meet the TV-phobes.

    True confession: Sometimes I like to drink and smoke while eating deep-fried meat in front of the television.

    1. Re:The next vegetarians by fable2112 · · Score: 3


      *LOL*

      And if you think that's fun, try having to read them for classes. (Postman's Amusing Ourselves to Death etc.)

      I'm not a huge fan of the "idiot box" and I also don't eat a whole lot of meat, don't smoke, etc. But that's my thing, that's MY moral code, and I wouldn't impose it on anyone else (except perhaps whatever spouse and children I may or may not end up with).

      Besides, I've got my stumbling-blocks, like net-addiction, and caffeine, and chocolate, and spending too darn much money on Starbucks. ;)

      TV isn't pure evil any more than the net is all-porn-and-hate-speech, all-the-time. The problem is that, like with so many things, the tripe dominates and the good stuff gets pushed aside.

      I didn't have cable until college. I was grateful for being able to veg out in front of *gasp* MTV the semester I broke my leg and wasn't going out much for obvious reasons. (Though I *did* hobble up to the weekly open-mic coffeehouse.) Later, I discovered the Sci-Fi channel and specifically Ray Bradbury Theater.

      But as a kid, I watched: Sesame Street and lots of other PBS shows (any other Square One junkies out there?), the news, Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy, occasionally certain series (The Wonder Years and I'll Fly Away come to mind) when I happened to be home, and VERY occasionally Saturday morning cartoons on the RARE Saturday mornings I didn't have art classes, swim meets, etc.

      If any single activity is sucking up all your time, there's a problem. And I don't care if it's TV, the Net, good old-fashioned reading, the SCA (guilty!), AD&D or some other roleplaying game, exercising, or working ridiculous amounts of overtime. Or anything else. And TV is particularly problematic because it tends to encourage uncritical acceptance.

      But like I said, TV isn't inherently bad any more than the Net is. Generally speaking, I have better things to do, but if I happen to be home and Star Trek or anything else I like happens to be on, I can veg out with the best of them. :)

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  23. Re:Reading not your stong suit, Doug? by Jburkholder · · Score: 2

    >This is not what the article states. Quoting verbatim:

    >Wired homes watch an average of 13% less TV -- about one hour daily -- than others, says the study, commissioned by America Online

    Bullshit. That's exactly what that says. I admit that its worded kinda wierd. Wired homes watch about one hour daily, 13% less than others - would have made more sense.

    Not, Wired homes watch one hour less tv per day than others, 13% less. Makes no sense.

    Only way to know for sure would be to look at the actual study. Anyone have a link?



  24. Non-Linear Editor by Izaak · · Score: 2
    Go to comp.sys.amiga.marketplace, find someone selling a Video Toaster/Flyer, and be done with it..

    Good advice I am sure. I've been a fan of the video toaster for years. And yes, I am probably reinventing the wheel by using linux to do something that has already been done on other systems... but that is kind of my point. I would like to make a killer video editing setup on Linux exactly because it appears to be unexplored territory. Linux has been successful at the number crunching side of some amazing movie affects... why not the visual side? It seems the only thing lacking is a specialized video card, and I would be very suprised if something suitable has not been created. I just have not yet discovered it. My only hope is that the hardware is accessible via an open API of some sort. It is very important to me that I can *lift the hood* on my editing system and customize the software.

    Still hoping for some more hardware pointers...

    Thad

  25. Still high, even with "person-hours" by Izaak · · Score: 2
    Even adding together the viewing time of all three people in my household, we would still fall far short of 10 hours in a WEEK. There is way too much fun stuff to do that does not involve a TV set, particularly in the summer.

    Thad

  26. Or total hours TV is on by EngrBohn · · Score: 2

    Just passed this to my wife, and she says 8-10 hours is about right for her, while she does other things around the house.
    Christopher A. Bohn

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  27. Interactivity! by Yosemite+Sue · · Score: 2

    It has been suggested that our society is making a transition from one that prefers to be entertained passively (e.g. TV, movies) to one that prefers interactive entertainment (e.g. Nintendo and Sega games, using internet resources). So, the article isn't all that surprising. Many web resources provide information that some people might have previously gotten from TV (such as news) in 24/7 availability. I imagine as more households get online, and the opportunities for online entertainment increase, the trend of watching less TV will continue.

    I know, in our household, the number of hours of TV watched would probably be even fewer if my husband and myself could both be online at the same time! ;-)

    YS

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