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The Future of GNOME
RPoet writes "LinuxWorld Today has an interview with Miguel de Icaza, in which he talks about what we can expect in the upcoming GNOME versions 1.2 and 2.0. "
He also explains what he & Nat's new GNOME company is up to and assorted other worthwhile tidbits. Not a bad interview.
Honestly, I don't know if it's just Gnome, or just Enlightenment, but whoever's fault it is, the configuration of E+Gnome in RedHat is positively the worst window managment system I'v ever encountered.
Think about it. Windows start without focus. You can't click in the window to give it focus, you have to click on the title bar. if you leave the pointer over the title bar, you get a big yellow box explaining how to move the window.
Clicking on it's button on the task bar doesn't give it focus. if it's behind another window, you have to move or minimize one or the other in order to change focus.
Now, these are very simple complaints. I currently use IceWM because it (a) basicly does what i need a window management system to do, and (b) mimics the z-ordering rules OS/2 uses.
This is just like television, only you can see much further.
Care to expand your argument away from the blasted fish?
After all, we've had xfishtank for years now... and xsnow...
There's no obvious *reason* why it should be "stability first, then fish applet" at all. You need something to test the underlying whatsits with.
Doesn't KDE use corba too, anyway?
~Tim
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Rushing on down to the circle of the turn
Bah, I botched the quote I saw someone had:
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"If Bill Gates only had a nickel for everytime Windows crashed... oh wait, he does!"
Implying that
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Panel, not pager. The pager works fine, but in a perfect world E would make sure that windows never appeared BEHIND the panel (Mac and Win* apps don't appear behind their taskbars.) Changing the focus should fix your problem, though.
You can get themes for Windows too and you've been able to get them since Windows 95
What, the collections of a few bitmaps, a background, some cursors, and default window colors? I think most Linux themes are more flexible than that.
For example, not a theme issue directly, but KDE will allow menus to be attached either to each application, like in Windows, or the top of the screen, like on Macs.
Ooh, a sarcasm detector. Oh, that's a real useful invention.
If you look at it from a real user interface standpoint rather than a personal preference standpoint Mac OS does much better than Windows, and just about everything else out there. That doesn't mean you or anyone else has to like it of course, it just means it follows more of the rules for good UI.
Are there any really UI-oriented people working on GNOME? It seems to be it could benefit greatly from this. Trying to match the Windows interface is not a good goal for the OSS community, because frankly Windows isn't very good at UI.
Since you don't have to worry about the bottom line, the OSS community is an ideal environment to test out new ideas and do things that haven't been done before, and it would be especially great to see that happening in the UI department as Linux tries to get a hold in the desktop market. To the typical user UI is much more important than buzzword compliance. If Linux can be made easier to use than Windows, Microsoft will truly have something to fear on the desktop.
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Do you have an URL where I can get more info? Thanks in advance.
Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs.
Gee, I guess the Micro-Trolls are out in force today, huh? Is this the best that the anti-Linux task force can muster.
:P
I fart in your general direction.
One of the things I like best about a separate GUI is that if an app hangs, I can kill X and restart it in a few seconds rather than have to reboot the whole OS, like when Word locks up twice a day here at work.
"If Bill Gates had a nickel for everytime I had to reboot... oh wait, he does!"
Reading the posts above just about everyone is offtopic. Not one post about what people think about the future of GNOME. It's either KDE people who think they are gods gift to the world. Windows people who don't know any thing about linux anyway or just plain old trolls.
It has been statistically shown that helmets increase the risk of head injury.
I am disappointed to see the high amount of flames and trolls taking place. If people actually take the time to read about what Gnome is doing with CORBA, XML, and bonobo. People are immediately assuming that bonobo and CORBA are going to bring on more bloat, but the idea behind these concepts is to reduce bloat and increase power. I have been following Gnome development fairly carefully, and I am very impressed with what they are coming up with. They are making great effort to implement everything correctly and elegantly. They are redoing their file manager to make it more powerful, faster, and more embeddable. Their new mailer is going to be truly next-generation. Their gnome-workshop will include the Gimp and Gnumeric, which are both already very advanced applications, as well as AbiWord, which is developing nicely. They are also working with the LyX people to do a *correct* gnome port, rather than how the KDE people did it; they will be using the LyX gui abstraction code to do things cleanly. Gnome is an extremely nice environment, and it is very configurable. Gnome 1.2 and Gnome 2.0 will be very impressive products, and they will be far more streamlined and faster than the previous generation. Please withold your flames until you actually research what GNOME is up to.
Uhhh..
I saw about 15 posts from you saying that linux isn't worth it because the menus dont' get added automatically.
Someone tells you that you can add them automatically, and you say that you'd rather do it manually than use the tool that is provided?
I always wonder why people like you bother talking. You just want to complain about problems. You ignore any possible solutions, and then just go on doing what you normally do.
You're not interested in learning anything, just convincing yourself that your way is the right way.
There is a dire shortage of available moderation points today, for sure.
:-) )
Can't moderate when no points show up. (uh, not that I would know