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GTK+ for BeOS Update
BugMaster ChuckyD writes to us with the latest info about the GTK+ porting to BeOS effort. Alpha stage, so it's still crashy-the-crash guy, but the screen shots look sweet. I'm going to have put this on my Be machine later.
(1) it's commercial
(2) it's not Unix
(3) it's partially owned by Microsoft
Essentially, OS/2 doesn't exist in the "Linux world" (as you put it), so it's no real shock that Slashdot isn't all over an OS that most people aren't even aware is still in production.
(I know it's unfair, but OS/2's fate as a nitch OS has been sealed for a long time. Blame IBM, Microsoft, fate, timing, whatever. Expecting "News for Nerds" to pickup on news which only interests what can be fairly called a legacy user base is a little odd. There's not much AS/400 or VMS news here either, and those plaforms are growing much faster than OS/2 is right now.)
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Oog, through misfortune, I had to work with OS/2 2.1 -- **$300** for the TCP/IP stack. And one wonders why so many people run Windows NT.
And the WPS was so unstable that we ended up booting into command prompts on the server, but that's a different story...
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(Late I know)
Note that I was referring to the fetishes of Slashdot editors more that I was talking about OS/2. I should have added [(4) It's not a new OS], which explains Slashdot's fixation on Be, Mac OS X, and so on.
But to address your points in particular:
- Nobody here thinks Be or Solaris or OS/400 is free software.
- Linux is a nearly perfect clone of Unix. Apologies if calling it unix offends your delicate sensibilities, but most people consider it a unix variant.
- Microsoft didn't steal any OS/2 code. At the time of the breakup, both MS and IBM got rights to each others projects - DOS, Windows 3, and OS/2 2.
- I didn't attempt to post any facts - just 100% opinion. Babbling a bunch of nonsense about System V not being BSD and accusing Microsoft of stealing something that they own looks pretty silly too.
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That's why all us OS/2 users think that Slashdot is anti-OS/2.
Cool! Now if only my fonts looked that good.
And... what's the graphing widget?
I agree that C++ fits naturaly into the GUI model of programming. (Ditto Java, and likely many other OO languages, although GUIs weren't around when I was programming in Simula-67).
Which is why I've used it the last few times I had to do Motif development. Pretty easy to wrap classes around the Motif stuff you need. Heck, I even used C++ to do X Windows 10 stuff, back when.
C makes sense in some problem domains, and I'll grant that too many C++ programmers tend to write unreadable code, but graphics and GUIs are domains that practically beg for an OO approach. (And yes, you can do OO in C, but why?)
-- Alastair
You can download GTK+ 1.21 for XFree86/2 from ftp://24.2.168.186/pub/os2/unix/ xfree86/ports/gtk/. Granted, it doesn't run on the OS/2 desktop, but that will change once EverBlue is done. Don't expect Slashdot to mention it, of course. With all their pro-BeOS anti-OS/2 stories, you'd think that there are more BeOS users than OS/2 users (there aren't).