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Queen of England Gets Red Hat
Zerbey writes "According to Linux Today The Royal Family's web site is now running Red Hat as apposed to Solaris. See for yourself on Netcraft. Congratulations, Ma'am :) "
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All this ignores the real power of a Monarch, though. They have a sort of centrifugal effect on a country- they draw a sort of uber-loyalty that transcends mere politics. It's very valuable to have such a symbol of continuity and immutability, particularly in tough times. Ideally, they'd serve as a role model for the nation, though some royal families (the Windsors!!) have done an awful job of fulfilling this responsibility.
Maybe choosing Linux for Her Majesty's Web Servers is a good first step on the road to Windsor redemption.
When I'm singing a ballad and a pair of underwear lands on my head, I hate that. It really kills the mood.
-Tom Jones
but ms uses bsd... and so do A LOT of isps, it's not like bsd is more obscure than linux or anything, sure less folks know about it but that doesn't make it less used. Just don't use redhat if you don't want to be using what they're using. Personally i don't find it cool to switch os'es because one is "less cool" than another. I don't use redhat- but only because i don't like a distrib that depends so heavily on their gui.
char *stupidsig = "this is my dumb sig";
You are correct - you have no clue about these things.
Actually, come to think of it, it is closer to 300 years.
HTH
Sp presumably you have no problem with us non-US people calling your president "Yo BillyBoy" is we met him on the street, as he has no authority here? Just checking.
Actually, the correct form of address is "Your Majesty" this first time, and "Ma'am" thereafter.
Indeed, the Queen prefers people to drop the "Majesty" bit and just call her "Ma'am" from the start. Oh, and she's not keen on people bowing before her either - she thinks it un-necessary and outdated.
Hope this helps
"Traditional British Values" ?? ..
What's that ? Never heard about them
Could we soon be kneeling and saying, "Sir Linus"?
The rules would not permit either a "Sir Linus" or
"Linus KBE".
Though a "Sir Alan Cox" would be possible...
At no point did I call it a victory against the US. It wasn't. It was however a victory against americans (small "a" again). Only you in your arrogance take american to mean USAvian. It doesn't.
As for linux on a webserver dictating who'd win a war, it just might.
It is my belief that in the 21st century the 1st world nations will conduct PR wars against each other. The purest form of the PR war will be who is running the coolest distro at the highest level. This can be seen as the equivalent of global nuclear war.
The next level down, equivalent to a police action would be the BSD/Linux argument. Below that is the MS/UNIX argument. Right at the bottom of the pile, roughly equivalent to HM the Q getting in a slugfight with Bill Clinton would be the GNOME/KDE question.
Second world countries won't have these problems as they will only have access to SLS and RedHat distros so the one with Redhat loses. 3rd world countries will keep on firing bullets and bombs at each other.
If the 3rd world countries get too pissy then the USA can send a couple of B52s across to dump a few million MS License agreements. The papercuts would stop any war in an instant.
Normality resumes below this line
you're right that it could be a firewall, else why does the current ervice look like its comming from a linux 2.0.x box?
.htm so its could even be running windows95 for the weserver.
All the static pages have the suffix
you're right that it could be a firewall, else why does the current service look like its comming from a linux 2.0.x box? ( as seen at WTF is www.royal.gov.uk )
.htm so its could even be running windows95 for the weserver.
All the static pages have the suffix
Obviously you know different young British people to me.
Sorry. It's correct. Doubly so if you're American.
teleny, friend of cats.
Excuse me, sirs, but addressing the Queen of Britain as "ma'am" is just slightly disrespectful. "Your Majesty" would have been much more appropriate in this case.
Not strictly true, for two reasons. Firstly, there's not much of an empire left (c.f. Hong Kong, handed back to China not so long ago), and Australia isn't part of the `empire' (on which, of course, the sun never sets :); it's part of the Commonwealth, which means that the Queen is officially head of state. Practically, it seems to mean the odd state visit here and there, to allow someone a pot-shot at Prince Charles :)
She is (formally) Her Britannic Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Slight problem with this is that we are missing a Queen Elizabeth somewhere for this to work. Elizabeth Tudor was queen some time before the union of the crowns (James the VI and I was her successor) and the union of Parliament (1801 or thereabouts).
This technically means that by claiming the title Queen Elizabeth the Second she effectively rules herself out of contention to be the Queen of Scotland. Ain't history wonderful?
Well she probably has her own personal Linux guru to help her out. Hmm, wonder if I could get a job... :-)
Of course I am talking about Argentina which despite what all you USAvians may think is on the South American continent and makes them american (small "a").
Heh.
That would be the current version of the old saying.
...because God doesn't trust an Englishman in the dark.
Incidentally back in my grandfather's day the wags used to add to that
:-)
Cheers,
Ben
My usual seat in the cluetrain is at A HREF="http://pub4.ezboard.com/biwethey.ht
Couldnt it be that the Sun box was the firewall ?
The firewall (where I work) is running Solaris, and all of the servers in the DMZ are running IIS or apache. Perhaps the firewall has changed, or the firewall was changed to linux.
No way to tell, if they are behind a tuff firewall.
So there.
But the thought of having to address current Red Hat luminaries with titles is odd, "Sir Robert", "Lord Donnie", and so on.
ROTFL!!!
Can you say "Paranoid fuckwit"?
(The sad thing is you probably believe the bull you are spouting!)
I thought the US system was summed up well many years ago, when the Beyond the Fringe gang explained the political system in the US to a UK person: ``There are two parties in the US: the Republican party, which is the equivalant of our Tory party, and the Democratic party, which is the equivalant of our Tory party.''
cjs
The world's most portable OS: http://www.netbsd.org.
She was a RedHat user a year or so ago. Then she experimented with Solaris, but now she's back.
I bet she got sick of recompiling KDE and just installs it from RPMs nowadays.
Actually, the young British people I know are really young Scottish people, and maybe there is a distinction there regarding loyalty to the Queen. Thing is, I lived in England for four years, and in the whole time I lived there, the only person I met who expressed support for the Monarchy was a certain technical support Bob going by the nickname of Zerbey....
Now that Australia is voting to remove the royal family from the ruling status, they finally do something worthwhile. Maybe we should have options like this in our upcoming referendum:
:)
Should Australia become a republic?
1 Yes
2 No
3 No, because they use linux
Perhaps this is the best thing related to the royal family that has happened in a long while
...until she starts wearing a red hat instead of a crown.
As a Brit living in California - this is looking like a hell of a lot more of a Police State than Jolly ol' England, or most of Europe for that matter.
Get a clue.
j.
Absit Invidia
You know, I always get the impression that America would love to have colonies, if it were politically correct to do so...
j.
Absit Invidia
This is truly hearsay, but I heard that the decision was made by a sub-contractor. But still it is a nice decision and Red Hat should certainly see whether they can get the standard, By appointment to... line approved. (At least for their British sales.)
:-)
Cheers,
Ben
My usual seat in the cluetrain is at A HREF="http://pub4.ezboard.com/biwethey.ht
I have no idea, but I kind of doubt it was due to monetary concerns.
I never did like SunOS or Solaris, though. At work the "time clock" runs on SunOS and is practically guaranteed to go down each and every day. I hate writing times down in a book.
~ Kish
...which, remember, is exactly the same support we (the UK) give to the USAF when we let them fly F-111's etc. out of British bases.
I think the proof-of-capability bombing of the airfield at Port Stanley by an RAF Vulcan was pretty cool - pitty one of them had to go and break a refuelling boom so it couldn't make it back to home soil...
j.
Absit Invidia
Glad to see everyone associates the Queen with RedHat now thanks to someone at the 700+ command of power making the decision :-)
But the queen does need a stable website like she needed that hip replacement. After all, if another one of the royals die, she can totally ignore their death on a stable server.
Fumbling towards royalty,
Matthew
_____________________________________
sortakinda.ca | canadian paraphrasing.
..ROTFL. As Jeremy Clarkson observed re the American war of independence:
'It was a civil war. Therefore, we kicked our own butts'.
j.
Absit Invidia
Red Hat Linux, By Appointment To Her Majesty The Queen.
The next Cmdr Taco duplicate will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and see it early!
Nah, she's alive and well and having JFK Jr.'s love child.
:-)
james
Absit Invidia
Leaves the question what the White House is using ... HAHA !!
Ghandi was killed by a Hindu nationalist - same as those right wing BJP arseholes who seem so keen on destroying mosques at the moment. Toby Poynder
...could any of you Linux experts give an old lady a hand?
Now that I got the server and the firewall running fine and dandy, I have been trying to set up a WWW site that would allow me to map the genealogical data of our fairly unique family tree. I'd like to find an application that would enable me to do this automatically.
All of the software I've tried so far crashes with "Too many unreferenced child nodes", "Circular references not permitted" or "Tree does not branch".
Any tips are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, dudes!
st4y k00l,
Her Majesty the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and West Indies^W^W^W
An an american you should shut the hell up until you know absolutely anything about monarchies .. or history. Having said that I guess it's just hard for us to break 1800 years of tradition ...a
In a move hailed by the Green Party, Christopher Hitchens, and Italian PM Massimo d'Alema, the Labour Party announced that they will use Slackware instead.
"Finally Labour is going back to its proletarian roots" an enthusiastic Christopher Hitchens was quoted as saying, expressing his hope that the adoption of OpenSource "will hasten the demise of that bunch of inbred, brain-addled morons". Asked to specify who he was refering to (Labour or the Crown), Hitchens declined to comment.
Others were not so thrilled. An angry Richard Stallman summoned the British consul to his Boston office and upbraided the diplomat for "the imperial arrogance" shown by the crown by not referring to "Red Hat GNU/Linux".
Meanwhile the Conservative Party expressed regret that the Queen had not "shown support for free enterprise and Capitalism" by adopting Microsoft's Internet Server. A spokesman for the Tories added, "we'll have lots more to say about this on our web site, just as soon as we reboot".
Whenever anything linux related happens, linux users always start spouting crap about world domination. you don't see the BSD camp celebrating like a bunch of 15 year old script kiddies when BSD gets installed on yet another high profile site do you? Linux users think they're all revolutionary because of "free software". Get this, you are just reinventing the BSD wheel (just under a more restrictive license (the GPL)).
Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!
Absit Invidia
>> As an American I can think of nothing that we could contribute more to our friends the Canadians and Australians than helping to eliminate the shackles of the British tyranny.
>
> Since the IRA stopped taking money to blow up busloads of schoolchildren you Americans just don't know what to do with yourselves
Blow up their own by the looks of things.
>> "Traditional British Values" ..
>
> What's that ? Never heard about them
Must the contemporary values from back then.
I bet she doesn`t even know her server`s running RedHat. Someone somewhere will have the job of sorting it out silently, and as long as it works (or even if it doesn`t), she won`t know or care what the webserver is being run on.
Who Yahoo and Walnut Creek CD-Rom are?
Face it.. they're both great operating systems.
...
Bitchslapped? Give Rob a bitchslap from bitchslapped.com.
The real argument for BSD is the mascot. The daemon is *way* cooler than the penguin. Figuratively.
You remind me of Barbados, where I talked with a local.
Barbadian: Where are you from?
I: Finland.
Barbadian: Where's that?
I: Between Sweden and Russia.
Barbadian: So is it in America or England?
Marko
It's not a matter of actually choosing to call the United Kingdom England, but rather just a misnomer that has taken hold. Why does the media call crackers hackers? Why do many people still call The Netherlands Holland? It's just something that took hold and is hard to shake.
They think "Oh, we can read the source, so they can't ... bwaahahaha :)
erally be serious, they said they were joking.. meanwhile, they keep missing that one
single, all important line of perl code in linux v2.2
I know where finland is, and if the finnish government switched all their computer to linux that would be wonderful. But it is ALSO wonderful that britian and the us are using linux, right?
char *stupidsig = "this is my dumb sig";
Since the IRA stopped taking money to blow up busloads of schoolchildren you Americans just don't know what to do with yourselves.
> Break free of the obsolete monarchy
You're living in the past, man.
>they british monarchy won't allow australia to become an independant nation, same as canada.
The Brits have no control over either of these countries. The Queen is just something to stamp on their coins. And say what you like of the British. At least their soldiers (unlike the USMC) know which side is "up" of the Canadian flag!
> And look at india, they were so pissed about that, that they killed ghandi. so don't count on it, the british will stop at nothing to keep their empire.
You moron. It was a Sikh that assasinated Ghandi. You're obviously still getting over that reading and writing thing, but you do know how to watch a movie, right? Hire Ghandi, The Movie. Get Mommie to help you put in the VCR.
>They can't stand to loose more and more of their empire. Look at how pissed they got when we broke away back in '76.
At the time Britain was being ruled by a German King, and the "British" soldiers he was fighting with were Prussian Mercenaries recruited en masse. So a German King with Prussian Mercenaries fighting British Colonists with Traditional British Values? No wonder we won!
I noticed that www.netaid.org is also running Red Hat, cool since their claiming to be expecting 60 Million hits a day...
Possibly, except that when the monarch has made breaks with, for instance, Parliament, such loyalty has been subjugated to politics. Note the reaction to the appointment of the Duke of Wellington to the office of Prime Minister. There was hell to pay, and the King was forced to reinstate Charles Grey, who then passed the Great Reform Bill of 1832.
Granted, this was during the Industrial Revolution, so it might be exceptional, but I think the British people are probably (when it comes down to it) more loyal to Parliament and their own ideals than to the monarch.
I get the feeling that the British are proud of their monarch largely because they know that, bottom line, they own her ass.
My GOD you are a retard. Read up you freak. When was the last time that Canada being part of the British Monarchy interfere with personal freedoms in Canada? It's called a FIGUREHEAD you moron.
And the last time I took score, these monarchis had more 'freedoms' then you fucking 'Merikans
You could at least spell his name properly.
I don't have a problem calling the president of a corporation or a country 'president'. I have a problem with calling someone "Your Majesty". Greece for example is a presidential republic. I do refer to our president as "president". Difference is, he is:
1) elected by the people
2) remains an equal person, paying taxes and all.
In that sense, it's nothing more than a job title. I can't really say that about "Majesty" -it is VERY different. I am quite confident that the majority of people out there can discern the difference, and I wouldn't like to explain it in detail.
As for not addressing a queen as "Her Majesty" I don't find that disrespectful, since I simply don't recognize "Her Majesty" and I have no reason to do so. I am not being a troll here - don't misunderstand me. I'm just trying to make a point - I am a citizen of a country that all people are equal, and I find titles of honour redundant and offending. You wouldn't find me using them, and if a Queen of some other contry is offended or something if I don't address her as "Your Majesty", well, that's none of my business, she should get over it.
-W
Click me!
...After all, what else would you expect redcoats to use? ;)
Methinks Her Majesty's Royal WebMaster, if he or she had needed to switch at all, should have chosen OpenBSD instead of Red Hat.
I believe that for something like this, security should override all other concerns. That, and the price is approximately the same. Also, Red Hat is known not to be the world's most secure Linux distribution.
I just hope the Royal Webmaster knows how to find and close the security holes that might exist...
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Please, don't take that out of context - I didn't say it's none of my business if I offend *anyone*, and I assure you I'm not a total arsehole ;)
I understand your point of being polite perfectly, but I didn't say that I'd call her a freeloader to her face - that is something *you* suggested. I agree totally with showing courtesy and respect to people that deserve it.
Maybe it's my greek egalitarian ideology, maybe I'm nuts, bottomline is I do not and will not show extra courtesy or respect to someone *just* because they have a title of honour. I do not, and will not recognize them as valid - in my book, the Queen or any queen for that matter is equal to every other person on this planet. Now, if a person holding a title of honour *expects* everyone to treat them with extra courtesy and respect, compared to 'mere mortals' so to speak, and they are offended because someone doesn't *that's* their problem, and they should get over it.
I stated from the start that I don't particularly like the idea of Monarchy, but I like to belive that I am a reasonable person. I hope that clears it up.
-W
http://www.netcraft.com/whats/? host=www.open.gov.uk
Glad to see her Majesty is using a decent OS; our pathetic government seem keener on sucking up to Bill G and insisting NT runs everywhere. Luckily, she's rather practical; what works is OK with her. Gawd bless you ma'am...(pauses to tug forelock). It should be remembered by non-Brits that the "Great Britain and Northern Ireland" bit is important. Most ppl forget..
// Hmm, another variant of IE/W9x/NT to add to the "integrated MS value proposition"
I happened to be in Edinburgh during the festivities surrounding the opening of the Scottish Parlement this summer and my understanding was that the official title was ammended to include "...and Queeen Eliabeth the First of Scotland", or something like that.
Of course, being a damn yankee, I could be wrong but I was a firsthand witness to the occasion.
What part of Scotland?
Anywho... the first king of the UK was James Stuart, AKA, The King of Scotland. And the Queen Mother is Scottish too. Just thought I'd inform you...
The Scottish rule the world.
Opinionated Law Student Strikes Again!
i think it's perfect for the british, they're obsession is world domination.
This is offtopic and probably common knowledge, but here it goes anyway.
> whitehouse.gov running Debian?
> nsa.gov running LinuxPPC?
> Slashdot.org running IIS
hotmail.com running Apache + FreeBSD. At least that's what they say at http://www.netcraft.com/whats
Take care,
Stephen VanDahm
scvd@SPAM-ME-NOT.home.com
after the british killed her for threatening to marry outside of her race
Do you think that because one person doesn't know where a place is located represents the entire culture? You make me sick. Trini forever
except for the designation Esq. Do a search on the lost 13th amendment, or admiralty. Maybe the wackos in the hills have a point (besides the one on the top of their heads, that is)
Mrs. Windsor and her gang must be planning a big comeback! Might as well go with an operating system designed for "world domination".
who sits around looks up what royal.gov.uk is running? I could understand looking at microsoft.com or hotmail.com (which runs BSD)... any way... its just weird that someone would not only look that up, but they submitted and had it posted on slashdot
Please tell me what's so funny about the Royal Web Server running Red Hat Linux. You need to get out more.
episode 2.3.x: from points across the globe, followers of linus trade rumors that governments in their particular part of the world have switched to linux. linux: the gnu choice of world governments. yes, linux, deposing the totaltarian dictatorship of the once mighty microsoft empire. a weekness has been found in their software and licensing; with the help of a small band of rebel fighters and one penguin the shackels of injustice will be thrown away forever. the world and indeed one day the entire universe will be saved by the open source marvel called the 'linux kernel'.
on a serious note: this is really cool. i wonder what microsoft thinks about loosing american government support? on the point of the royal family sacking solaris, well, i used to play solaris on my atari 2600, it was cool then but pretty out of date now. 8^)
so linux now has england and the us goverments... now don't get me wrong but aren't those two of the most powerful goverments of earth? and linux is number 1 as an os in japan. I think that qualifies for world domination...
char *stupidsig = "this is my dumb sig";
Seems, she've been slashdotted - I barly could load the frontpage...
--The knowledge that you are an idiot, is what distinguishes you from one.
Neither Australia nor Canada nor the Bahamas is a republic. They are constitutional monarchies with a governor general representing the queen when the queen's not in country. They are all members of the Commonwealth, yes.
Australia may become a republic in a few years it's true... but they haven't decided yet. And yes they could still remain in the Commonwealth after becoming a republic. There have been several republics in the Commonwealth for some time.
[We don't come from a planet. We come from a grid sector.]
I'm pro-Monarchy, but only 'cos they make a nice tourist attraction.
"I want to use software that doesn't suck." - ESR
"All software that isn't free sucks." - RMS
hey boys, anybody wanna 0wn the royal family?
shoulda stuck with solaris, queenie.
Someone should teach Zerbey that the proper title to address someone of Royal blood is "Your Highness" and the correct title for the reigning monarch is "Your Majesty" :) Im not quite sure how the Queen would take to being addressed as "Ma'am" :)
correct.
according to another majoritoristic view, she couldn't be said to be serious about Linux until she sports a Tux the penguin
Insert mind here.
Um, great - pick on the poor guys in Argentina and call it a victory against the US... Wonderful. As if the idea of the Royal Family's webserver running Linux had *anything* at all to do with who'd win in a war?? C'mon, let's not get stupid here - and don't drag the South Americans into what is clearly a US/Britain testosterone-fest.
Cool! A half baked operating system for a half baked
institution. I suppose the thinking is, 'we don't
run the country anymore, so we don't need a proper
operating system.'
That wasn't a troll. You people are idiots. All Monarchies MUST die. Anyone that lives like that might as well shut the fuck up when it comes to free software as well. Switch to NT lusers. You make freedom look bad to the rest of us when you sit under your tree of servitude to your royal masters.
A couple of centuries?? Seriously?? I have no clue about this sort of thing, but that seems to push way too far back - You're saying that the monarchy hasn't touched the laws since 1799??
As an american, what the fsck are you using a metric measure for? Damn twits, the lot of you!
That's right, they haven't. Actually since about 1700.
When I'm singing a ballad and a pair of underwear lands on my head, I hate that. It really kills the mood.
-Tom Jones
Amen, brother!
Your comment is cute! But remember that Thatcher had to wait to invade the Falklands until the US aircraft carrier and support ships had arrived to back up the tiny British navy. (Man, I love Thatcher!)
When I'm singing a ballad and a pair of underwear lands on my head, I hate that. It really kills the mood.
-Tom Jones
whitehouse.gov running Debain?
nsa.gov running LinuxPPC?
Slashdot.org running IIS
I use to have a funny sig, but slash cut it off, and I forgot what the punchline was.
Mr Anonymous,
So the article was not something you were interested in? Rob can't please everyones literary tastes. It was just a harmless story to say somebody in the public eye has their site hosted with our beloved OS.
Did it ever occur to you to just skip onto something else? Your post served only to get on peoples nerves. It doesn't surprise me at all that you're a 'anonymous coward'.
Best wishes,
Brit who'd kick your ass
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You know, the last time I checked, the Queen
was still the Queen up here in Scotland, which
means she is the Queen of Britain, even though
I hate her, I'd prefer it if people stopped
treating the UK as England, and ignoring the
fact Scotland (and Wales, and Northern Ireland)
exist.
--
David Taylor
davidt-sd@xfiles.nildram.spam.co.uk
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Freedom dance? :P
At least our queen doesn't demand the keys to every door in the country like your poxy government continually threatens to with encryption, so ner!
:8)
~Tim
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Rushing on down to the circle of the turn
I dunno, sure looks like a purple hat to me.
Queen of England is Babylon whore! Fiyah bun wicked bitch!
Pardon me, your majesty
I just changed my mind, lets remain a monarchy.. it could be worse, you could end up as our queen
Actually, I think you've got the wrong war - there was no overt US involvement in the Falklands due to the Americas Treaty.
However, the US Navy airbase at Kindley Field, Bermuda (British soil on loan) did give a few Harrier pilots a helping hand and a bit of fuel on their way from Farnborough to Ascencion.
So does this mean that Linus will be knighted?
Oxford University is running on RHL too, so all our major institutions are obviously catching on. Nice to see Microsoft running on a beta of NT5, you've got to admire their bravery.
Yup. It was a simple troll, nothing more.
It's Gandhi, by the way, fool.
Royalists can use our stuff; but it's designed for revolutionaries !!!
The OS upon which the sun never sets.
Does anyone else think it's ironic that an operating system with designs on "world domination" is being embraced wholeheartedly by governments around the world?
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BSD *does* look a little cooler now.
less so in this one
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