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ICANN Board Election Results

Soko writes "One American on the ICANN board so far, folks. Newsbytes has this report. " We could do worse than Vint Cerf, but there's still some concern among U.S. polticians that "we" don't have enough representation. From the story: "House Commerce Committee Chairman Thomas Bliley, R-Va., last week said that it would be 'unfortunate' if the United States were underrepresented on the ICANN board. Because the United States still has the majority of Internet users and businesses and because of the nation's leadership role in inventing and promoting the Internet, the US should be well represented on the ICANN board, he said."

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  1. US "Underrepresented"? by Wayfarer · · Score: 3

    I know that the Internet began as a primarily American phenomenon. Likely, that hasn't changed much, despite the globalization of the Internet.

    However, I think that if we are to make the Internet a truly global phenomenon, the US should be prepared to let other nations have a significant say in what happens to the 'Net. This means swallowing some pride and allowing themselves to be "underrepresented", despite the fact that the Internet was originally exclusively American.

    Just my 0.02 zlotniks.

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    -W-

    Is it all journey, or is there landfall?
    --Ellison & van Vogt, 'The Human Operators'

  2. What really worries me about ICANN... by Thalia · · Score: 5

    Isn't that there is only one American on the board, but that there are no representatives of the actual users of the Internet on the board. Every one of the elected members represent large Telcos. Vinton Cerf is an MCI WorldCom vice president. His point of view is that of a large corporation. This also applies to the remaining members.

    On the other hand, according to ICANN's web page, the Board of ICANN will be composed of nineteen Directors, nine At-Large Directors, nine to be nominated by Supporting Organizations, and the President/CEO (ex officio). This election was for the nine members nominated by Supporting Organizations. So there is still time to get some representation for actual techies onto the ICANN board.

    1. Re:What really worries me about ICANN... by davew · · Score: 3

      Guys,

      There are techies on the ICANN board. The ASO is a blatantly techie group I was there. I helped select the three European members of the ASO.

      This has been a more open process than people seem to believe. There is seems to be an attitude of "I didn't see a Slashdot article on this, therefore I wasn't represented". A slashdot poll, or any kind of net election, is not a good way to have everyone's voice heard. Net polls are fun, but I have never seen any "democratic" concept more abused than that, including student politics.

      This has been an open process, and anyone who has web or email access has had a voice. RIPE, ARIN and APNIC - the three regional registries representing in equal parts Europe, America and Asia-Pacific - made a proposal on how to form the ASO. Another joint proposal came from CIX, EuroISPA and eCOM-LAC. Comments were invited, and received, and recognised, on both proposals. (I made mine).

      In the end, the proposal from the registries was accepted as the most open and fair way forward - with an acknowledgement that no solution is perfect and so the ASO will need to answer to an ad-hoc committee in the initial stages to ensure that true representation is occurring.

      The process of selecting ASO members was itself open. RIPE is a completely open group - you do not need to be a customer of the RIPE NCC to attend its meetings or take part in its working groups - and ARIN and APNIC are rapidly heading in that direction. Bear in mind that the Canadian member of the board was chosen has the representative for ARIN, the RR for America writ large, North and South.

      To anyone who thinks that this method of decision doesn't work, or doesn't properly represent anyone, remember that this is the same method by which any progress has been made in the last ten years. A group of techies meet (IETF, RIPE, NANOG, whatever) representing their various companies, ISPs and customers, thrash out the issues of the day - IPv6 allocation, too many updates in the RIPE database, how to measure network performance between Amsterdam and New York - and walk away knowing what direction to proceed in.

      The process is not the flawed democratic principle whereby an uninformed electorate is given a bad bunch of choices (picked by a mysterious process which the population at large has no control over) and asked to pick the one which the least people hate most. It is a process where anyone with a good idea can make a proposal, and anyone with a problem with that proposal can have their voice heard, and have it fixed. Or looking at the another way, "If you don't like this option, fine, but I'll want to hear some better ones please."

      It's an open-source election, people. Please don't abandon it in favour of a trumped up slashdot poll.

      Dave

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  3. Re:On the internet, we're the vast majority. by Quesne · · Score: 3

    You must be counting AOL disks. And even if true, "orders of magnitude" less than 100 mill. is 1 mill. A number of countries has many times this number of users.

    The largest segment is not necessarily large enough to be considered a majority. A quick peek at linuxcounter indicates that USA is at 20% of the net population.

    And from what country did the browser technology originate? Without that the internet would still be a plaything in academia.

  4. Re:Cracked for the *first* time? by aclute · · Score: 3

    No, read the article again. The article said that it was the first time a *Microsoft* website had been cracked, as in, a site on *.microsoft.com -andrew

  5. Male or female? by Wohali · · Score: 5
    Gotta love MSNBC's attention to detail:

    The hacker, who also altered a handful of government Web sites in recent days, says he expects to be arrested soon.

    Yet it seems obvious to me from flipz's first crack on attrition.org that flipz is a woman.

    Just another example of gender bias in the media. out

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    "But always she's the spectre of uncertainty I first endured, then faded, then embraced..."
  6. *yawn* by Enoch+Root · · Score: 5
    Sorry, guys. I know it's Microsoft, and it's always fun to gloat about the Man getting cracked. but website defacing has long since stopped impressing me. It's just a bunch of opportunistic kids who do it because they can even though they fail to understand what they're doing. This sort of exposure merely inflates their undeserving ego.

    I mean, Slashdot was cracked before. So that hardly proves anything.
    "Knowledge = Power = Energy = Mass"

  7. Re:cracked? by rde · · Score: 5

    I suggest 'fucked'. For two reasons.
    1. It's probably the only chance for most of these kiddies to fuck anything.
    2. There's something about the headline "Microsoft Well and Truly Fucked" that appeals.
    3. Three. Three reasons. When was the last time you got to rant at someone saying "they're fuckers, not crackers!"?

  8. Hm, time to call PCWeek? by Booker · · Score: 3

    Perhaps they should give PCWeek a call, to beef up their Windows security. :)

    Seriously, though, too bad he didn't go after the PCWeek hack-contest box. The damn thing's still up!

  9. Were you ever a child? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3


    Can you remember how powerfully the feelings moved in you, and the screaming intensity of your motivation to do something? The fires of youth were the heart of the engine which drove wars, conquests, and the building of empires throughout history. Today, where can these driving powers find their release? Where else is a young man or woman gripped by the claws of ambition going to express their power?

    Today's laws put a lid on the primal driving force of the species, and the government enforces those laws with overwhelming violence. Like any people faced by a too-powerful foe, the children move into other lands -- or, speaking less metaphorically, into arenas where the the law cannot be effectively enforced, and work their passions there. The computer networks of the world are such an arena. Those who do not understand why these kids do the things they do call the kids "stupid", but the lack of comprehension is truly due to a lack of common ground between the observer and the observed; to those who have not lost touch with the primordial fire of creation, the act is perfectly understandable, even if the form of the act seems strange.