Loki Hack '99 Patches available

anonymous porcupine writes "The kind folks at Loki Entertainment have finally released the Loki Hack '99 patches. Share and enjoy. And keep in mind that the hacks aren't listed in any particular order. :) " I actually had the privilege to judge the event at ALS - everyone did an amazing job (See the feature we did on it) - and now you can download the fruits of their labor.

Comments

Re:More Configs... and: What about German?

[cy]

>They specifically state that the patches are applicable to the English version. Does that mean none of the
>patches work with the German version? I would think that the main differences between the versions
>would be in seperate language files or something.

You probably will have problems with some of the patches - eg the ones that add new units or new user interface compenents to panels. You could keep track of which files change under the ctp_data directory (specifically those under the english directories and make the suitable changes in the corresponding files in the german directories).

Sorry, I did kind of think about it at the time, but given the time constraints and my total lack of any knowledge of the German language I didn't do any.

You forgot the end

[Nermal]

For thine is the kernel and the penguin and the glory. Forever and ever, ^M. =:)

Loki hack questions

[Anonymous Coward]

1. Will Loki release a version update that incorporate all the patches? It is silly to require users to uninstall and install the patches one at a time.

2. Will those patches work on Windows version of Civilization: Call To Power? If not, will the improvements made by these patches become available to other platforms?

3. If the patches do not work as expected, will the improved versions of the patches be available?

Re:Notes from a Civ:CTP programmer

[Anonymous Coward]

ahh that's pretty geeky

Output quality

[Anonymous Coward]

Compare what ESR made vs Jon Taylor contribution.
Can you tell who codes and who "evangelizes"?

Re:Don't Panic

[Pascal Q. Porcupine]

It's kinda hard to do that when you spend maybe 6 hours total in the hack room. ;)
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Bust a 40?

[198348726583297634]

Just a helpful info- I think you meant 'bust a cap.' We could kick back a 40 or sip on gin and juice, and the bust a cap. Word. Yo.

Re:Bust a 40?

[ragnarok]

word up G, good to see some tight homies on Slashdot.

Re:Bust a 40?

[Anonymous Coward]

You have just lost all street cred. Bust a 40 = discharge a .40 calibre (Glock handgun cartridge). Please turn in your baggy jeans and your Puff Daddy mp3's, whiteboy. We have a stack of Pat Boone tapes to send you.

Re:Bust a 40?

[198348726583297634]

Hey, I'm as white as they come. Pat Boone is right up my alley! ;) I just hadn't heard 'bust a 40' before. Hell, I just learned what benjamins are a few brief days ago! I have fired a glock, though- and I thought you'd refer to it as a 9, since it's a 9mm gun. 40 calibre makes sense, though. Thanks for clarifying!

No puff daddy mp3s, though. No baggy pants, either- although if I did, it'd be because I gotta have my Chuck Norris Superkick jeans for extra martial arts power in ordinary-looking street clothes (except for about a square foot of extra cloth in the groin.) Besides, dockers let me kick plenty high as it is. :)

Re:Bust a 40?

[Chemical Serenity]

Glocks (at least all that I've been exposed to) use 9mm. ie: 'Glock 9'... which, IIRC, is more-or-less equivalent to .357. Perhaps you're describing a Glock which busts caps my limited whitebread canadian ass ain't been exposed to yet.

West si-eeede. Gettin' jiggy with it. Yo yo yo etc.

(Why do I now have an image of Eric Cartman in my head complaining about not being able to play slip 'n slide in Zelma Hyack's underpants?)

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Re:Lets play the Glock Game

[Anonymous Coward]

It's cool dog, I ain't mad atcha. Just crack a 40 of Labatt's Blue and chill on up.

Well, Labatt's Blue would be a two-four, not a forty, anyway. (Case of 24 bottles/cans.)

Last Post!

[Anonymous Coward]

Last Post!

Re:first post!

[punkass]

No, first posts were the worst thing ever to happen to slashdot...coupled with "naked and pertrified" and "Blow it out yer ass"...none of this shit is amusing after the 50,000th time...

Hey!

[BJH]

How about versions compiled for glibc 2.0?

Cool.

[pb]

I'm liking these guys more and more.

I got an offer to beta test Heroes of Might and Magic III, and I'm really looking forward to seeing what else Loki does for Linux.

Even if it takes a God of Mischief to start things off right, I'll enjoy the anarchy of more Linux games and more open games.
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Hack?

[Signal 11]

Top 10 Reasons Free Software Really Pisses Off "the other guys":

10. We have GOD on our side.
9. Money? What's that?
8. Two words: contract enforcement
7. Our culture heroes actually work instead of worrying about the next third-wave paradigm shift in "IT" and writing books about roadmaps, "the roads ahead" and e-nothings.
6. Our source can beat up your source.
5. We didn't contract with the psychic hotline for our tech support.
4. WE ARE GEEKS WITH GUNS, so you'd better not try any of that "licensing" crap with us or we'll bust a 40 on you!
3. Crash, bork, die, hang, BSOD, nuke, fizzle...
2. Due to technical difficulties, #2 was lost.
1. We have a lovable penguin that children can identify with.. rather than the souless corporate icon of a window. =) Conversely, for the naughtier children, we have daemons.

Incase you're wondering why this is posted under the Loki thread... I have no idea... but it's funny enough that you can overlook this infraction, right?

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Re:Hack?

[Anonymous Coward]

If God be for us, who can be against us?

- From Saving Private Ryan

Re:Hack?

[Signal 11]

Good question. I heard Microsoft hired Satan awhile back....

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Re:Whats Loki?

[interiot]

See http://slashdot.org/articles/99 /09/17/1745235.shtml.

I quote: Loki Entertainment Software has announced a contest where an elite group of hackers (in C++, that is) will be chosen to improve their port of Civilization: Call to Power. The winner will get a dual-processor Linux box as a prize.

Don't Panic

[jfunk]

Pretty neat. I haven't downloaded it yet but I hope it's in big, friendly letters.

What looks really impressive, though, is Multifractal Penguins and Porcupines.

Having cow units would be pretty cool as well.

Am I the only one disappointed with ESR's comparatively paltry entry? I kind of expected more (such as some actual programming) than some simple text-editing when I saw his name.

Re:Don't Panic

[Signal 11]

Dude... I think you didn't properly sync your brain before you hit SUBMIT on that one... you're going seriously non-linear...

You need a double latte with skim....

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Re:Don't Panic

[jfunk]

Dude... I think you didn't properly sync your brain before you hit SUBMIT on that one... you're going seriously non-linear...

Huh?

Might I suggest reading the page in question before posting? It's a good practice.

I was simply commenting (very lightly) on the material found there.

Plus, I wouldn't expect a hack of such minimal proportions from ESR. I mean, we're talking about ESR!

Re:Don't Panic

[Mark J Tilford]

I heard that ESR tried to add a libertarian government option... Maybe he didn't have enough time to finish it?
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Re:Don't Panic

[Signal 11]

Ummm... since when was the absence of a cool hack a reason to get upset at someone? Maybe ESR didn't feel like doing too much... or really wanted to get the history and stuff down correctly (scratch that itch, as he'd put it). You know, the whole point is he contributed something.. does it matter who his name is? :\

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Re:Don't Panic

[jfunk]

since when was the absence of a cool hack a reason to get upset at someone?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not upset. Merely surprised.

I remember hacking the first Civilization with a hex editor... Hmm, my Phalanx appears to have an attack of 99. :-)* Funny how how those unit properties were stored in the save files.

I also made changes similar to ESR back then to add the missing Newfie civilization. :-)*

Wow, that was a long time ago.

Notes from a Civ:CTP programmer

[Joe Rumsey]

I was a programmer on the original version of CTP. This is actually the first time I've seen the list of Loki Hacks. I'll just comment on a few.

Flat map - The AI will probably have a lot of problems with this. As noted, pathing still thinks the world wraps, and the AI uses the same pathing...

Don't Panic - Very amusing!

Cows were in the original design. They worked like mobile farms, basically. The problem was people would surround their cities with cows, making it impossible to attack with stealth units and generally annoying to move through enemy territory at all. You can actually enable most of the functionality just by adding the right flags to the text files, but not the ability of other units to rustle them. The latter code is gone, sorry.

The 1.2 version (out for Windows already) has an autpilot feature available from the chat window. I forget the command, but it's in the readme (I hope!)

The customize your civ hack is pretty darn impressive for 48 hours with this code. Nice one!

All of this is awesome. I'd love to do this with future games too. Thanks a lot to all of you!

Re:Notes from a Civ:CTP programmer

[cy]

>Cows were in the original design. They worked like mobile farms, basically.

I was kind of surprised at how many features were in the code, but just commented out - eg it looked like there were gateways to teleport from one place to another. Did these just not pass play-testing or was it a time-thing? They looked like they could be lots of fun to play around with.

Re:Notes from a Civ:CTP programmer

[StenD]

> The 1.2 version (out for Windows already)

For about 2 months, right? Frankly, I would have preferred to see the Linux 1.2 patch (which was promised for BEFORE LokiHack took place) rather than these patchettes.

Re:Whats Loki?

[goon]

read the article, loki_hack=(source + mad_coders + time + loki + idea)

• source = cpp source code of CivCTP
• 
  mad_coders = http://www.lokigames.com/hack/profiles.htmlhttp://
  time = 48Hrs
  loki = www.lokigames.com/about/lokihack_faq.php3#whensele ct
  idea = http://www.lokigames.com/hack/patches.html

Re:First Post

[Alex Belits]

!@%%man indeed:
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Whats Loki?

[mduell]

What is Loki Hack?

Mark "Erus" Duell

Lets play the Glock Game

[Chemical Serenity]

Here's what up with the glock biz:

G17 9MM 4.5" BARREL 17 ROUND MAG
G17L 9MM 6" BARREL 17 ROUND MAG
G19 9MM 4" BARREL 15 ROUND MAG
G20 10MM 4.6" BARREL 15 ROUND MAG
G21 45ACP 4.6" BARREL 13 ROUND MAG
G22 .40 CAL 4.5" BARREL 15 ROUND MAG
G23 .40 CAL 4" BARREL 13 ROUND MAG
G24 .40 CAL 6" BARREL 15 ROUND MAG
G25 .380 ACP 4" BARREL 15 ROUND MAG
M31 .357 SIG 4.5" BARREL 15 ROUND MAG
M32 .357 SIG 4" BARREL 23 ROUND MAG
M34 9MM 5.32" BARREL 17 ROUND MAG
M35 .40 CAL 5.32" BARREL 15 ROUND MAG

You're right. I've only been exposed to the G17 and G19... but you can bust a .40. I must now hang my head in maple-syrup shame.

... with mah mind on my igloo and my igloo on mah mind...

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Re:Lets play the Glock Game

[Anonymous Coward]

It's cool dog, I ain't mad atcha. Just crack a 40 of Labatt's Blue and chill on up.

The other Loki -- off-topic?

[nwetters]

Here's a link to the real Loki.

16 Pentium Pro Processors
x 5 Fast Ethernet interfaces
+ 2 Gbytes RAM
+ 50 Gbytes Disk
+ 2 Fast Ethernet switches
+ Linux
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= 1.2 real Gflops for $63,000


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heh heh heh.

[Kitsune Sushi]

RMS, the atheist Saint of Emacs and leader of the FSF a god?

Who says the public media isn't changing people's perceptions?

Re:heh heh heh.

[Patrik Nordebo]

RMS isn't a god, but Linus is. He said so himself, so it must be true.

Our Linus, who art in Transmeta, hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done in Redmond as it is in Transmeta.
Give us this day our daily patch, and forgive us our bugs, as we forgive those who make bugs for us.
And lead us not into Windows, but deliver us from Microsoft.
Amen.

More Configs... and: What about German?

[orcrist]

Two things:

• They specifically state that the patches are applicable to the English version. Does that mean none of the patches work with the German version? I would think that the main differences between the versions would be in seperate language files or something.
• One of my main problems with CTP is the rather meager set of configuration options; at least, that's my impression. Above all: I would love to be able to turn off the line which extends from the active unit to the mouse pointer, or, for that matter, I'd like to turn off mouse-based movement completely. I mean, I use the keypad to move units, and if I move my mouse-pointer out of the way, I get this stupid line stretching half-way across the screen. Anyone know of a way of doing this?

Chris