Mathematics is an absolute however in applications to that which there is no rational comparision it does render irational results. I don't need some theorist to tell me that.
No, I think the mathematics is exacting but what your trying to define is usng mathematics is abstract. Just because you want to take the sum of two undefined components doesn't mean the mathematics behind doing that is any less sound. Or does it? Maybe I am as slow as you believe, maybe my perspective is just different. Maybe the problem you describe is relative to your perspective. Maybe I understand the concept completely but think it is a load.
Not wrong, and any kindergardener can tell you one cloud plus one cloud equals 2 clouds. Now if you would actually like to take the sum of two clouds you have to first decide what you would like to measure because the sum of two clouds is two abstract a concept to be handled with mathematics alone. I think your statement that "mathematics is no more true than any other science" is false. I think there are problems that can be looked at in a phylisophical light that seem to bend the rules of modern mathematics but nothing has broken the basics. If I were high I might agree with you but I'm not so I can see your "proof" doesn't prove squat excapt you may not really know how to use mathematics.
I think many people wouldn't feel so inclined to post if when we looked at this "breaking story" we didn't just think to ourselves duh. This guy is getting accolades for this?
I looked over his stuff and basicaly came up with this. You can't prove/predict randomness. Ok, is this something new or is it the poetic way he put it by making it into an equation? Maybe it is my own ignorance but how exactly is this something new or earth shatering to the field of mathematics.
I mean it's obvious at least to me that if you abstract something enough eventualy it won't make sense. Not because it isn't logical, but because you can not longer see all the pieces they have simply become the aproxamate sum of their parts.
I think this article could be rewritten under the title Why Weather Men Cannot Predict the Weather. A proof by Chaitin.
Maybe I'm just someone who never understood mathematics but 2+2 always = 4. In your senario you state 2 "cups of sugar" + 2 "cups of water" = 4 cups of sugared water which I would interpret as 2x + 2y = z. This equation says to me that z could be anything once I find out x or y. When you say 2 + 2 4 depends on your definition of 2 I think uhm no it doesn't cause if it did you would be introducing another variable into the mix and that would be a different equation all together.
What happened to the company in texas that claimed cold fusion in 95. It seems they dropped off the face of the earth can anyone post what happened with them as I must have returned to my rock around that time and did not emerge until after the dust settled.
I'm supprised this hasn't been moderated to funny. Of couse I would think the courts would consider this more along the lines of switching the price tag which I have no clue of the legalities involved. Could someone who is a lawyer post so as to give us a clue how the courts look at price tag switching.
Is this a joke? Cause I'm left here thinking man thats what everyone was saying when I first got into computing. No one will ever have one of these in their home they are to big/expensive.
I don't know about any of the other self proclaimed geeks out there but I can't wait to get my hands on something like this. It may be just out of my reach right now but I'm sure I won't have to wait more than a couple of years before I will be able to purchase one. Soon we could have true open source computing everything from your Motherboard to your software could be open sourced. It makes me all gitty thinking about it.
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http://www.xybernaut.com/product/prod_picts/P00371.jpg
There is a picture of one to give you an idea of what it looks like from xybernaut.
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There are small keyboards that you use with one hand for character input only. Not very fast on typing but practicle for a wearable device.
I ran across this site yesterday while checking up on some info on wearable computers.
http://www.vrealities.com/hmd.html
I know it doens't have all of them but there are quite a few inexpensive displays in there. All I would want is a monocular full color 800x600 screen with low power consumption.
As for the majorit of the HMDs I have run across most of the afordable ones are far from acceptable as far as resolution goes most falling below the 640x480 mark. A lot of the more expensive ones do at least 640x480 and I read the specs on one that did a whopping 1280x1024 and ran for 7700 Dollars.
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Ok try a HMD and wrist mounted keyboard. I think the only real limiter on this device is its 15V 3A power requirements. I'm no EE But to me that sounds like a pretty heafty power requirements for a device of that size. Definitly not your average AA power consumer. Although I'm sure they make laptop batteries that you could rig up to it. It is kind of disapointing that they didn't have a setup you could purchase along side of it and a nice belt atachment so you could wear them at your waist.
I don't they want to get rid of the code. I think they just want to try and invalidate GPL so they can steal some code that is already released under it and claim that it furthers the inovation of "quality software".
I reread the article particulary the statements by Allchin and it almost sounds like MS wants to take some GPLed software and do something to it make it closed source and profit from it. Kinda reminds me of some stuff they did in win 2k maybe they want to steal someone elses technology and use it in their next release because they can't invovate for themselves as shown by almost every relationship they have had since they began selling software.
I wonder what they really have up their sleeves? I mean what kind of mega corp would be making statements like this. What are they really afraid of? Are they scared if everyones making free software they won't make any money? Are they afraid that they can't make software any better than the free software that is out there? Maybe I'm giving them to much credit to think this is a part of something else. But I can't help wondering what the real deal is because it seems so ludicrous.
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Duh and they are the ones going under for the most part. It's not a question of what I know but what they don't. And like I said before if you take the time to do a buiness plan look at your costs and charge your customers accordingly and offer a quality service people will use your service it is plain as that. There will always be people who think your prices are to high or that joe blow down the street is offering it for less. Let those customers use joe blow and run his buisness into the ground. Why shot yourself in the foot trying to please everyone and simply focus on a good product.
If your goal is to be another AOL by gaining market share as quick as possible the chances you are going to fail are high. Even AOL when it started charged us somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 dollars an hour to use their network over modem lines they leased from another provider. I can only imagine they were making money off that deal.
So while I'm not saying it is easy to do there is money to be made in this marlet you just takes work which many of these providers aren't willing to do they simply think more customers = a better company. I know this because I worked for a company who was charging 49.95 for dialup access they were offering litteraly down the street for 9.95 a month. You know what that company is still around today the other company filled for bankruptcy and sold their user base to another company to try and pay their creditors.
Now while I won't just write you a road map or a "how to" cause people get paid to do that stuff. I think there is more than enough information there to justify my earlier comments. Now if you want to pay me I will do the research required to show you the breakpoints to offer services in various markets and how to compete in those markets against the companies who are offering their products for a lower price.
I don't think that is a troll comment and I think anyone who has used the service would know better. If you don't know enough to have an opinion don't chastise someone who does.
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Assuming this was a pull the plug type deal where service was just cut off there will be damages incurred by the actions of Covad. The notepad comparison is different as you are dealing with a product vs service and the laws in many states treat these two very differently. If you are really interested in this e-mail me and I will dig up some examples.
I use AT&T in dfw and I have never had this problem. I called the other day and told them I was using linux and they just asked me if I knew how to use it to do various things we went through them I told them the output and they helped me get my setup fixed. Of course it was a router on their end down but at least they walked through the steps with me.
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Thats a load. It isn't hard to make a profit esp. if it's a value added service to an existing ISP. It does take a whole lot more planning than we're going to offer dsl now through covad and going through the motions of become a covad service provider. You have to take different costs into consideration. You have to target your market and gain some market share through agressive marketing. To many of these companies spread themselves out and tryed to tackle the 400lbs gorilla without so much as a game plan. If you do a risk analysis and find out where you expenses are you can find ways to trim costs and improve profitability. One of things you can't do to improve profitability is decide you aren't going to pay your provider.
While I can agree the points earned are small even the smallest numbers can turn profits if you plan it out. This is also the reason a lot of dotcoms failed they were all looking for gains in the short term and weren't planning on having to ride out turns in the economy. They saw an infinit pool of moeny and wanted to dive in they didn't realize without real value in their services they would quickly go the way of the dodo.
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I don't think so with this situation they cut off the providers because they weren't paying them. They are offering customer fullfilment for the unpaying providers by offering their customers service with another ISP who carries their service. It would be like a bell deciding the AT&T can't use their lines because they aren't paying cutting off there coverage and offering you to pick a different long distance carrier.
On the other hand I think it may be a bit subversive and Covad might be liable for damages to the ISPs and their customer base. There could also be some avenues explored further by some of the ISPs cut off like intortion of buisness by Covad. It could be spun into a Anti-Trust type suit against Covad.
I'm wondering can I rent out the little spot on the door in my bathroom to various advertisers. Maybe a nice add on the ceiling in my living room. Maybe I could rent out enough space in my home so I will not have to work and can spend all day just surfing the net and playing tribes.
I find that many businesses work off the whatever is right more than 50% of the time. And for the most part this is why I think many businesses are like this with age. I am 25 and have run into this time and time again. I have run the gambit form.net to.com I have been a VP and director for two organizations and I see why many young people are not taken as seriously as they possibly should be. Many "young people" are to emotional in their beliefs and don't know how to convey the facts in a way that business understands. Most will simply state what needs to be done and then get mad when their suggestions don't have actions taken on them. They fail to explain fully the benefits and risks of situations and therefor are simply taken with a grain of salt. I think we all see the same actions on slashdot time and time again with the trolls who post here. I don't think it is anything new or anything that will go away anytime soon. I think the only way to overcome this stereotype is to set yourself apart by learning how business works and learning to present your ideas in a way anyone can understand. Many dismiss this as conformity but in many organizations conformity is the only way, without it there are communication issues and fifdoms emerge creating a negative work environment. If your organization still frowns upon your ideas then maybe you should review them and see if you can find anything wrong with them. Don't take it personal see if you can improve upon your ideas. If your employer does can not tell you why they don't like your ideas and you can't find any holes in it you may want to find a new job it would probably benefit you in the long run.
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Mathematics is an absolute however in applications to that which there is no rational comparision it does render irational results. I don't need some theorist to tell me that.
No, I think the mathematics is exacting but what your trying to define is usng mathematics is abstract. Just because you want to take the sum of two undefined components doesn't mean the mathematics behind doing that is any less sound. Or does it? Maybe I am as slow as you believe, maybe my perspective is just different. Maybe the problem you describe is relative to your perspective. Maybe I understand the concept completely but think it is a load.
Not wrong, and any kindergardener can tell you one cloud plus one cloud equals 2 clouds. Now if you would actually like to take the sum of two clouds you have to first decide what you would like to measure because the sum of two clouds is two abstract a concept to be handled with mathematics alone. I think your statement that "mathematics is no more true than any other science" is false. I think there are problems that can be looked at in a phylisophical light that seem to bend the rules of modern mathematics but nothing has broken the basics. If I were high I might agree with you but I'm not so I can see your "proof" doesn't prove squat excapt you may not really know how to use mathematics.
I think many people wouldn't feel so inclined to post if when we looked at this "breaking story" we didn't just think to ourselves duh. This guy is getting accolades for this?
I looked over his stuff and basicaly came up with this. You can't prove/predict randomness. Ok, is this something new or is it the poetic way he put it by making it into an equation? Maybe it is my own ignorance but how exactly is this something new or earth shatering to the field of mathematics.
I mean it's obvious at least to me that if you abstract something enough eventualy it won't make sense. Not because it isn't logical, but because you can not longer see all the pieces they have simply become the aproxamate sum of their parts.
I think this article could be rewritten under the title Why Weather Men Cannot Predict the Weather. A proof by Chaitin.
Maybe I'm just someone who never understood mathematics but 2+2 always = 4. In your senario you state 2 "cups of sugar" + 2 "cups of water" = 4 cups of sugared water which I would interpret as 2x + 2y = z. This equation says to me that z could be anything once I find out x or y. When you say 2 + 2 4 depends on your definition of 2 I think uhm no it doesn't cause if it did you would be introducing another variable into the mix and that would be a different equation all together.
What happened to the company in texas that claimed cold fusion in 95. It seems they dropped off the face of the earth can anyone post what happened with them as I must have returned to my rock around that time and did not emerge until after the dust settled.
I'm supprised this hasn't been moderated to funny. Of couse I would think the courts would consider this more along the lines of switching the price tag which I have no clue of the legalities involved. Could someone who is a lawyer post so as to give us a clue how the courts look at price tag switching.
Is this a joke? Cause I'm left here thinking man thats what everyone was saying when I first got into computing. No one will ever have one of these in their home they are to big/expensive. I don't know about any of the other self proclaimed geeks out there but I can't wait to get my hands on something like this. It may be just out of my reach right now but I'm sure I won't have to wait more than a couple of years before I will be able to purchase one. Soon we could have true open source computing everything from your Motherboard to your software could be open sourced. It makes me all gitty thinking about it.
http://www.xybernaut.com/product/prod_picts/P00371 .jpg
There is a picture of one to give you an idea of what it looks like from xybernaut.
There are small keyboards that you use with one hand for character input only. Not very fast on typing but practicle for a wearable device.
http://www.ibuypower.com/product-pc/pocket-epc2.ht m
This seems to be the second generation of this device with integrated networking and modem.
I ran across this site yesterday while checking up on some info on wearable computers. http://www.vrealities.com/hmd.html I know it doens't have all of them but there are quite a few inexpensive displays in there. All I would want is a monocular full color 800x600 screen with low power consumption. As for the majorit of the HMDs I have run across most of the afordable ones are far from acceptable as far as resolution goes most falling below the 640x480 mark. A lot of the more expensive ones do at least 640x480 and I read the specs on one that did a whopping 1280x1024 and ran for 7700 Dollars.
Ok try a HMD and wrist mounted keyboard. I think the only real limiter on this device is its 15V 3A power requirements. I'm no EE But to me that sounds like a pretty heafty power requirements for a device of that size. Definitly not your average AA power consumer. Although I'm sure they make laptop batteries that you could rig up to it. It is kind of disapointing that they didn't have a setup you could purchase along side of it and a nice belt atachment so you could wear them at your waist.
I don't they want to get rid of the code. I think they just want to try and invalidate GPL so they can steal some code that is already released under it and claim that it furthers the inovation of "quality software".
I reread the article particulary the statements by Allchin and it almost sounds like MS wants to take some GPLed software and do something to it make it closed source and profit from it. Kinda reminds me of some stuff they did in win 2k maybe they want to steal someone elses technology and use it in their next release because they can't invovate for themselves as shown by almost every relationship they have had since they began selling software.
I wonder what they really have up their sleeves? I mean what kind of mega corp would be making statements like this. What are they really afraid of? Are they scared if everyones making free software they won't make any money? Are they afraid that they can't make software any better than the free software that is out there? Maybe I'm giving them to much credit to think this is a part of something else. But I can't help wondering what the real deal is because it seems so ludicrous.
Duh and they are the ones going under for the most part. It's not a question of what I know but what they don't. And like I said before if you take the time to do a buiness plan look at your costs and charge your customers accordingly and offer a quality service people will use your service it is plain as that. There will always be people who think your prices are to high or that joe blow down the street is offering it for less. Let those customers use joe blow and run his buisness into the ground. Why shot yourself in the foot trying to please everyone and simply focus on a good product.
If your goal is to be another AOL by gaining market share as quick as possible the chances you are going to fail are high. Even AOL when it started charged us somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 dollars an hour to use their network over modem lines they leased from another provider. I can only imagine they were making money off that deal.
So while I'm not saying it is easy to do there is money to be made in this marlet you just takes work which many of these providers aren't willing to do they simply think more customers = a better company. I know this because I worked for a company who was charging 49.95 for dialup access they were offering litteraly down the street for 9.95 a month. You know what that company is still around today the other company filled for bankruptcy and sold their user base to another company to try and pay their creditors.
Now while I won't just write you a road map or a "how to" cause people get paid to do that stuff. I think there is more than enough information there to justify my earlier comments. Now if you want to pay me I will do the research required to show you the breakpoints to offer services in various markets and how to compete in those markets against the companies who are offering their products for a lower price.
I don't think that is a troll comment and I think anyone who has used the service would know better. If you don't know enough to have an opinion don't chastise someone who does.
Assuming this was a pull the plug type deal where service was just cut off there will be damages incurred by the actions of Covad. The notepad comparison is different as you are dealing with a product vs service and the laws in many states treat these two very differently. If you are really interested in this e-mail me and I will dig up some examples.
I use AT&T in dfw and I have never had this problem. I called the other day and told them I was using linux and they just asked me if I knew how to use it to do various things we went through them I told them the output and they helped me get my setup fixed. Of course it was a router on their end down but at least they walked through the steps with me.
Thats a load. It isn't hard to make a profit esp. if it's a value added service to an existing ISP. It does take a whole lot more planning than we're going to offer dsl now through covad and going through the motions of become a covad service provider. You have to take different costs into consideration. You have to target your market and gain some market share through agressive marketing. To many of these companies spread themselves out and tryed to tackle the 400lbs gorilla without so much as a game plan. If you do a risk analysis and find out where you expenses are you can find ways to trim costs and improve profitability. One of things you can't do to improve profitability is decide you aren't going to pay your provider.
While I can agree the points earned are small even the smallest numbers can turn profits if you plan it out. This is also the reason a lot of dotcoms failed they were all looking for gains in the short term and weren't planning on having to ride out turns in the economy. They saw an infinit pool of moeny and wanted to dive in they didn't realize without real value in their services they would quickly go the way of the dodo.
I don't think so with this situation they cut off the providers because they weren't paying them. They are offering customer fullfilment for the unpaying providers by offering their customers service with another ISP who carries their service. It would be like a bell deciding the AT&T can't use their lines because they aren't paying cutting off there coverage and offering you to pick a different long distance carrier.
On the other hand I think it may be a bit subversive and Covad might be liable for damages to the ISPs and their customer base. There could also be some avenues explored further by some of the ISPs cut off like intortion of buisness by Covad. It could be spun into a Anti-Trust type suit against Covad.
I'm wondering can I rent out the little spot on the door in my bathroom to various advertisers. Maybe a nice add on the ceiling in my living room. Maybe I could rent out enough space in my home so I will not have to work and can spend all day just surfing the net and playing tribes.
I find that many businesses work off the whatever is right more than 50% of the time. And for the most part this is why I think many businesses are like this with age. I am 25 and have run into this time and time again. I have run the gambit form .net to .com I have been a VP and director for two organizations and I see why many young people are not taken as seriously as they possibly should be. Many "young people" are to emotional in their beliefs and don't know how to convey the facts in a way that business understands. Most will simply state what needs to be done and then get mad when their suggestions don't have actions taken on them. They fail to explain fully the benefits and risks of situations and therefor are simply taken with a grain of salt. I think we all see the same actions on slashdot time and time again with the trolls who post here. I don't think it is anything new or anything that will go away anytime soon. I think the only way to overcome this stereotype is to set yourself apart by learning how business works and learning to present your ideas in a way anyone can understand. Many dismiss this as conformity but in many organizations conformity is the only way, without it there are communication issues and fifdoms emerge creating a negative work environment. If your organization still frowns upon your ideas then maybe you should review them and see if you can find anything wrong with them. Don't take it personal see if you can improve upon your ideas. If your employer does can not tell you why they don't like your ideas and you can't find any holes in it you may want to find a new job it would probably benefit you in the long run.
What about the project X 3d web browser from apple in 94-95