You seem to have a very US perspective there. Don't forget that the strategy in TFA specifically singles out the US market as being separate to the strategy for the rest of the world, including the developing world.
I have used Maemo and Android, and Android (at least the 1, 1.5 1.6 and 2.2 I have tried) is a god awful crock of shit compared to Maemo. I think Meego could potentially continue the excellence.
My n900 was one of my favourite phones. I think if they concentrated on meego and produced similar devices, they they could compete very well with Android, particulary if you can run Android apps on meego.
I just recently switched from n900 to an android phone (got the droid free on a better rate plan and gave my n900 to my ex wife because she likes resistive touch screens better.) and I miss how well all of the various accounts are integrated.
On the shiny Samsung, skype is a separate app that isn't integrated with the dialler, it's own ring tone and doesn't unlock the screen when a call comes in, so I fumble around with the stupid thing and invariably miss calls. All chat, apart from google, is via third part apps that exhibit their own quirky behaviours and don't feel integrated with messaging.
Contrast that with the Nokia where skype calls and regular calls behaved exactly the same way. Outgoing, you just pick how you want to call the contact, incoming, the screen turns on and you answer. Messaging is integrated too, so you can be online on any number of chat services, and they behave like sms when the phone is asleep, giving a little LED signal that you got a message. And all accessible through the same widget as SMS. Also, nokia includes IR on their smartphones/internet tablets allowing me to use my phone as a remote for my DSLR.
Sure Android has more games and better fart apps, but n900 had pretty much everything I now use on the android and more. The only area where I prefer the Samsung is the navigation app that came with it.
Just given how nicely integrated the n900 is, and imagining that meego would inherit a lot of maemo software, I was really looking forward to meego. If these guys manage to shake up the board, I will most certainly move to meego once this contract is up.
How dramatic? Isn't outsourcing done (like it or not) to reduce costs?
Outsourcing is done to reduce the projected costs that PHBs see. In reality, outsourcing can lead to increased costs and delays due to time zone differences and language/cultural barriers.
I have seen it work reasonably well, but only when the extra effort and delays caused by the increased need for rework that comes from complex software projects. If you are working with others on software, it is so much quicker to produce quality software if the person who knows the business requirements is sitting right next to the person doing design and the person cutting code and the person doing the testing, etc, etc.
If these people or groups are scattered around the world with different cultures and native languages, communication can suffer, increasing misunderstanding and reducing the quality. I have personally seen this lead to massive increase in code defects in a project that went from in house development to outsourced.
Also, time zone differences cause problems. I have noticed that the further west people live, the less likely they are to take into account how far behind they are. Working with people who fail to realise that their Monday morning is the next day for someone else, or that by the time they are halfway through Friday, others are already on their weekend is not only frustrating, it leads to slow turn around of bug fixes, etc.
Yeah, I'm told outsourcing keeps costs down, but I am yet to see conclusive evidence of that in the real world. At least in complex development. YMMV for support/call centre stuff.
Yup. That's the from link I thanked ThreePhones for.
I got the quote from the link in the summary. Have a read. It's worth it if you enjoy giving yourself a headache...
I seriously just had to re read it to try and figure out what the hell the author is getting at. I really wonder how anybody found any information in it meaningful enough to submit it to/. in that form. I also wonder how the hell it got past an editor.
Thank you. TFA is one of the most poorly written pieces of drivel I have read in a long time. It barely makes any sense...
The researchers used an innovative technique called “small angle neutron scattering” at ORNL’s High Flux Isotope Reactor to produce the hydrogen.
Umm, so this is some kind of nuclear process to produce hydrogen? WTF!?! This is just the worst example from TFA, the whole thing is crappy. Thanks very much for your link, it actually explains what has happened.
The point isn't that the Russian strategy accomplished anything besides killing a lot of Chechens, destroying a couple of trillion rubles worth of infrastructure and fueling an internal terrorist/separatist movement for the next century.
Like I said, mission accomplished. Sure Americans are now realising how stupid the entire Iraq thing was, and maybe Russians are starting to as well. Yeah, Iraq may be on the other side of the world from the USA, but the whole Iraq thing is going to bite the US on the bum...
In terms of some religious duty to create instability, I think he is bat shit crazy... but then so are a lot of Christians who are also pushing the whole holy war/crusade thing. You know, all those whackos that believe all that crap about the Jews having some god given right to some dirt in the middle east? I'd lump a lot of extremist Jews in with them too. I would like to see forced re-education camps set up in Antarctica for whacko members of all the Abrahamic religions.
In terms of wiping Israel off the map, I agree wholeheartedly. I don't agree with hurting a single Jew, but the political entity that is Israel was founded by Zionists who were the first to use terrorist tactics such as mass transport hijacking to get their way. It was also founded by a bunch of Jews descended from people with little to no genetic link to the Israelites. I don't see why a political entity that frequently flouts the rule of law and is essentially a concession to terrorism should be allowed to exist, let alone be protected by a major super power. If Israel didn't keep behaving like a bunch of shits I might have a different opinion, but as it stands, I say wipe it off the map and replace it with Palestine.
There are far more hateful, misinformed and bigoted comments than mine all over this thread. The ones you don't notice have an anti Iranian/pro American paranoia flavour. I just like playing devils advocate and balancing things up a bit..
and not just in war against Japan, but also in peace against the Bikini islands?
We moved the people off the atoll first.
BZZZZT. Kids went out and played in the falling ash thinking it was snow the Americans had brought them.
Iraq with cluster munitions and the overt and deliberate massacre of civillians,
Would those be the civilians with the army uniforms and firearms, or the civilians attempting to drive explosive-laden vehicles through the checkpoints?
No, I referring more to the women, children and journalists.
What facts are clear? Are you referring to his actions in Sweden, because if so, the have not even decided whether to charge him or not, so on that count calling him criminal is slanderous. If you are referring to any of the leaks, you are clearly an idiot.
To accept second-hand accounts from people who may be biased would be simply stupid.
So by saying he is a criminal, you are telling us all you are stupid. Fair enough....
That bit about the UK having to approve, who in the UK are you talking about? "The authorities" mentioned are likely to be from the political arm of government, perhaps a minister. The judiciary in the UK is focused on the law. The government tends to be less independent and more likely to go along with what the US wants for diplomatic reasons.
So if he is extradited to Sweden, how can you be sure that "the authorities" in the UK wont rubber stamp the extradition? The thing he has going for him now is that he is in a country with high standards of justice that is also a member of the Commonwealth like Australia.
That's right! It's got nothing to do with race, Americans just like hating people for no reason whatsoever. Americans are just hateful. That's what they do. It keeps the economy going.
I think the world would be a lot safer if we took all of the USA's nukes and distributed them around the world to every country except the US. The US is full of Christian extremists, religious nuts if you will.
Oh yeah, and we should round up all the European Jews in the middle east and ship them off to South America where they should have gone in the 40's. Y'know, instead of invading an otherwise peaceful territory over some misguided Zionist concept that the descendants of penis worshippers from central Asia have some claim over Palestine. Isreal is full of Jewish extremists.
Islamist(sic) extremists can be quite suicidal for the right cause
The Iranian government are not Islamic extremists any more than the US government are Christian extremists. You have more to fear from former soviet states because they have nuclear material dotted around the place with little security. If I wanted to make a dirty bomb I'd be looking around there. Iran is most certainly not crazy and has some very advanced science and technology.
The crazy thing here is it reads like you're about the good old US of A.
....messianic regime gets their hands on apocalyptic weaponry
Messianic regime... don't you idiots always go on about "god bless" and "in god we trust" and shit. Your constitution might say your church and state are separate, but how likely is it that an open atheist could get into the presidency? How many in your government believe Israel was given by god to the jews? Who had the first nukes? Who is the only country to have used nukes directly on foreign people, and not just in war against Japan, but also in peace against the Bikini islands? Hmmm, sounds like a messianic regime with apocalyptic weaponry
barbaric ass-backward, anti science 'religious' ideology's all the time, are none the less able to cynically usurp the products of rational thought and the scientific method
Well barbaric is easy. Bikini Islands again, Vietnam with the agent orange polution and napalm on villages, Iraq with cluster munitions and the overt and deliberate massacre of civillians, and on and on and on. The US is the most barbaric nation in the history of the known universe.
Anti-science 'religious' ideology is pretty obvious, the most recent example of its growth in the US being a recent/. story regarding New Mexico.
You rapidly violent fuckwits usurp the products of rational thought and scientific method to the detriment of the rest of the planet. And you think your shit doesn't stink
I can understand why having bought the bridge and tower you would want to offload them, but trying to get him on the Nigerian thing is just plain rude. You see, you're swallowing the propaganda has two major ill effects.
Firstly, it's bad for you personally because it narrows your mind and constrains it to predictable repeated pathways and as we all know, a brain that follows the same pathways again and again without exploring new possibilities starts to die and develops dementia.
Secondly, people from Iran actually read this shit. So they see a few comments like the most excellent GP, and then they see the majority of dumb Americans posting crap like yours or other worse hate speech (which of course you are most free to post). If your brain is still capable of trying on other ideas, I invite you to put yourself in the shoes of an Iranian. Read the GP and then read all the propaganda spewing, shitty comments you support on this story. As an Iranian, how would you feel about the US? Would you be supporting the government doing whatever it takes to develop a deterrent against US aggression?
If you answer "no" to the rhetorical question above, I fear you may have already lost too much of your brain to be an effective part of society and I request you top yourself to eliminate your unnecessary resource consumption.
Oh, I thought politics played into this because the US is home to a bunch of barking fascists who want to vaporise anyone who is not christian or jewish... or who challenges the notion that the US is the best and can do whatever it fucking wants whenever it fucking wants. Obviously I was mistaken.
Central America, Korea, Afghanistan (I mean the previous conflict where the US armed the taliban), Iraq (I mean the previous Iraq where the US armed Saddam)
And, when you're talking about countries and how they interact, you're talking about the Government of that country.
If that's the case, the USA has been crazy for over 50 years.
I mean, I know/. is an american site and has an unashamedly american bias, but this shit is just ridiculous. Iran is less of a threat to the world than the USA is. The USA has shown time and time again that they are prepared to start wars, meddle in other countries internal affairs, kidnap civilians, ignore international law or force countries to sign treaties saying US citizens will not be subject to international law, etc, etc, etc.
What has Iran actually done? Sure the government says a bunch of stuff, but what do they actually do? And before you spout off some crap about the threat of war with the US stopping them doing anything, I put it to you that the only reason they say all of those stupid things is the threat of war with the US and that abominable criminal organisation that people call Israel.
listening to any speech of Ahmadinejad, and you're forced to wonder if the man is even lucid.
I wonder about that. Do you speak Persian? Who does the translation? And by the way, the same could be said for any number of your political figures. Your current president sounds reasonably lucid, but the one before? Why was he not put down? I'm a native english speaker and even I had trouble understanding how so many could allow such a buffoon into a position of power.
Tell you what, you shoot/hang/bury alive all of the idiots in your country that think a foreign citizen has committed treason (WTF!?!?!) by publishing information leaked by one of your own citizens and then we can talk. Until then, you may as well suck up that propaganda and I'll just keep spitting it back out all over idiots who think it's digestible.
Well you're an arrogant arsehole, aren't you? You've just accused the guy of a bunch of stuff you've derived from your own assumptions, you appear to deride the guy as being obsessed with prestige and then you go on to blow your own trumpet.
You come off as an arrogant and hypocritical prick. And while you might be good a mathematics, I would hazard a guess you're not much use for anything else... case in point: you deride people who, knowing that they don't have the skills to do a task on their own, call on friends for help. Going it alone is generally a less successful strategy if the sum of human achievement is anything to go by.
go google rupert murdoch failures and the list is amazing.
Yup. We are glad to be rid of him... (except he does still own a few papers here, but none that any sane person actually believes to be factual). Shit, even his own mum doesn't like him....
Can't comment on their bias not being in the US, but I do notice that for most Americans, left wing is anything to the left of what the rest of the world calls centre-right.
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You seem to have a very US perspective there. Don't forget that the strategy in TFA specifically singles out the US market as being separate to the strategy for the rest of the world, including the developing world.
I have used Maemo and Android, and Android (at least the 1, 1.5 1.6 and 2.2 I have tried) is a god awful crock of shit compared to Maemo. I think Meego could potentially continue the excellence.
My n900 was one of my favourite phones. I think if they concentrated on meego and produced similar devices, they they could compete very well with Android, particulary if you can run Android apps on meego.
I just recently switched from n900 to an android phone (got the droid free on a better rate plan and gave my n900 to my ex wife because she likes resistive touch screens better.) and I miss how well all of the various accounts are integrated.
On the shiny Samsung, skype is a separate app that isn't integrated with the dialler, it's own ring tone and doesn't unlock the screen when a call comes in, so I fumble around with the stupid thing and invariably miss calls. All chat, apart from google, is via third part apps that exhibit their own quirky behaviours and don't feel integrated with messaging.
Contrast that with the Nokia where skype calls and regular calls behaved exactly the same way. Outgoing, you just pick how you want to call the contact, incoming, the screen turns on and you answer. Messaging is integrated too, so you can be online on any number of chat services, and they behave like sms when the phone is asleep, giving a little LED signal that you got a message. And all accessible through the same widget as SMS. Also, nokia includes IR on their smartphones/internet tablets allowing me to use my phone as a remote for my DSLR.
Sure Android has more games and better fart apps, but n900 had pretty much everything I now use on the android and more. The only area where I prefer the Samsung is the navigation app that came with it.
Just given how nicely integrated the n900 is, and imagining that meego would inherit a lot of maemo software, I was really looking forward to meego. If these guys manage to shake up the board, I will most certainly move to meego once this contract is up.
Outsourcing is done to reduce the projected costs that PHBs see. In reality, outsourcing can lead to increased costs and delays due to time zone differences and language/cultural barriers.
I have seen it work reasonably well, but only when the extra effort and delays caused by the increased need for rework that comes from complex software projects. If you are working with others on software, it is so much quicker to produce quality software if the person who knows the business requirements is sitting right next to the person doing design and the person cutting code and the person doing the testing, etc, etc.
If these people or groups are scattered around the world with different cultures and native languages, communication can suffer, increasing misunderstanding and reducing the quality. I have personally seen this lead to massive increase in code defects in a project that went from in house development to outsourced.
Also, time zone differences cause problems. I have noticed that the further west people live, the less likely they are to take into account how far behind they are. Working with people who fail to realise that their Monday morning is the next day for someone else, or that by the time they are halfway through Friday, others are already on their weekend is not only frustrating, it leads to slow turn around of bug fixes, etc.
Yeah, I'm told outsourcing keeps costs down, but I am yet to see conclusive evidence of that in the real world. At least in complex development. YMMV for support/call centre stuff.
Yup. That's the from link I thanked ThreePhones for.
I got the quote from the link in the summary. Have a read. It's worth it if you enjoy giving yourself a headache...
I seriously just had to re read it to try and figure out what the hell the author is getting at. I really wonder how anybody found any information in it meaningful enough to submit it to /. in that form. I also wonder how the hell it got past an editor.
Thank you. TFA is one of the most poorly written pieces of drivel I have read in a long time. It barely makes any sense...
Umm, so this is some kind of nuclear process to produce hydrogen? WTF!?! This is just the worst example from TFA, the whole thing is crappy. Thanks very much for your link, it actually explains what has happened.
Like I said, mission accomplished. Sure Americans are now realising how stupid the entire Iraq thing was, and maybe Russians are starting to as well. Yeah, Iraq may be on the other side of the world from the USA, but the whole Iraq thing is going to bite the US on the bum...
Hmmm beliefs of the Iranian president...
In terms of some religious duty to create instability, I think he is bat shit crazy... but then so are a lot of Christians who are also pushing the whole holy war/crusade thing. You know, all those whackos that believe all that crap about the Jews having some god given right to some dirt in the middle east? I'd lump a lot of extremist Jews in with them too. I would like to see forced re-education camps set up in Antarctica for whacko members of all the Abrahamic religions.
In terms of wiping Israel off the map, I agree wholeheartedly. I don't agree with hurting a single Jew, but the political entity that is Israel was founded by Zionists who were the first to use terrorist tactics such as mass transport hijacking to get their way. It was also founded by a bunch of Jews descended from people with little to no genetic link to the Israelites. I don't see why a political entity that frequently flouts the rule of law and is essentially a concession to terrorism should be allowed to exist, let alone be protected by a major super power. If Israel didn't keep behaving like a bunch of shits I might have a different opinion, but as it stands, I say wipe it off the map and replace it with Palestine.
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Fairly heavy irony with just a hint of unpleasant truth.
There are far more hateful, misinformed and bigoted comments than mine all over this thread. The ones you don't notice have an anti Iranian/pro American paranoia flavour. I just like playing devils advocate and balancing things up a bit..
Citing an Israeli propaganda site detracts from your argument.
BZZZZT. Kids went out and played in the falling ash thinking it was snow the Americans had brought them.
No, I referring more to the women, children and journalists.
What facts are clear? Are you referring to his actions in Sweden, because if so, the have not even decided whether to charge him or not, so on that count calling him criminal is slanderous. If you are referring to any of the leaks, you are clearly an idiot.
So by saying he is a criminal, you are telling us all you are stupid. Fair enough....
That bit about the UK having to approve, who in the UK are you talking about? "The authorities" mentioned are likely to be from the political arm of government, perhaps a minister. The judiciary in the UK is focused on the law. The government tends to be less independent and more likely to go along with what the US wants for diplomatic reasons.
So if he is extradited to Sweden, how can you be sure that "the authorities" in the UK wont rubber stamp the extradition? The thing he has going for him now is that he is in a country with high standards of justice that is also a member of the Commonwealth like Australia.
That's right! It's got nothing to do with race, Americans just like hating people for no reason whatsoever. Americans are just hateful. That's what they do. It keeps the economy going.
Hahaha. Your user name says it all.
I think the world would be a lot safer if we took all of the USA's nukes and distributed them around the world to every country except the US. The US is full of Christian extremists, religious nuts if you will.
Oh yeah, and we should round up all the European Jews in the middle east and ship them off to South America where they should have gone in the 40's. Y'know, instead of invading an otherwise peaceful territory over some misguided Zionist concept that the descendants of penis worshippers from central Asia have some claim over Palestine. Isreal is full of Jewish extremists.
There you go, world peace. Simple as that.
The Iranian government are not Islamic extremists any more than the US government are Christian extremists. You have more to fear from former soviet states because they have nuclear material dotted around the place with little security. If I wanted to make a dirty bomb I'd be looking around there. Iran is most certainly not crazy and has some very advanced science and technology.
How many terrorist or destabilising forces has the US bankrolled? Just asking. Hypocrisy ain't pretty you know....
The crazy thing here is it reads like you're about the good old US of A.
Messianic regime... don't you idiots always go on about "god bless" and "in god we trust" and shit. Your constitution might say your church and state are separate, but how likely is it that an open atheist could get into the presidency? How many in your government believe Israel was given by god to the jews? Who had the first nukes? Who is the only country to have used nukes directly on foreign people, and not just in war against Japan, but also in peace against the Bikini islands? Hmmm, sounds like a messianic regime with apocalyptic weaponry
Well barbaric is easy. Bikini Islands again, Vietnam with the agent orange polution and napalm on villages, Iraq with cluster munitions and the overt and deliberate massacre of civillians, and on and on and on. The US is the most barbaric nation in the history of the known universe.
Anti-science 'religious' ideology is pretty obvious, the most recent example of its growth in the US being a recent /. story regarding New Mexico.
You rapidly violent fuckwits usurp the products of rational thought and scientific method to the detriment of the rest of the planet. And you think your shit doesn't stink
That's the saddest part of all...
I can understand why having bought the bridge and tower you would want to offload them, but trying to get him on the Nigerian thing is just plain rude. You see, you're swallowing the propaganda has two major ill effects.
Firstly, it's bad for you personally because it narrows your mind and constrains it to predictable repeated pathways and as we all know, a brain that follows the same pathways again and again without exploring new possibilities starts to die and develops dementia.
Secondly, people from Iran actually read this shit. So they see a few comments like the most excellent GP, and then they see the majority of dumb Americans posting crap like yours or other worse hate speech (which of course you are most free to post). If your brain is still capable of trying on other ideas, I invite you to put yourself in the shoes of an Iranian. Read the GP and then read all the propaganda spewing, shitty comments you support on this story. As an Iranian, how would you feel about the US? Would you be supporting the government doing whatever it takes to develop a deterrent against US aggression?
If you answer "no" to the rhetorical question above, I fear you may have already lost too much of your brain to be an effective part of society and I request you top yourself to eliminate your unnecessary resource consumption.
Oh, I thought politics played into this because the US is home to a bunch of barking fascists who want to vaporise anyone who is not christian or jewish... or who challenges the notion that the US is the best and can do whatever it fucking wants whenever it fucking wants. Obviously I was mistaken.
Mission accomplished much?
Central America, Korea, Afghanistan (I mean the previous conflict where the US armed the taliban), Iraq (I mean the previous Iraq where the US armed Saddam)
Pot vs. kettle much?
If that's the case, the USA has been crazy for over 50 years.
I mean, I know /. is an american site and has an unashamedly american bias, but this shit is just ridiculous. Iran is less of a threat to the world than the USA is. The USA has shown time and time again that they are prepared to start wars, meddle in other countries internal affairs, kidnap civilians, ignore international law or force countries to sign treaties saying US citizens will not be subject to international law, etc, etc, etc.
What has Iran actually done? Sure the government says a bunch of stuff, but what do they actually do? And before you spout off some crap about the threat of war with the US stopping them doing anything, I put it to you that the only reason they say all of those stupid things is the threat of war with the US and that abominable criminal organisation that people call Israel.
I wonder about that. Do you speak Persian? Who does the translation? And by the way, the same could be said for any number of your political figures. Your current president sounds reasonably lucid, but the one before? Why was he not put down? I'm a native english speaker and even I had trouble understanding how so many could allow such a buffoon into a position of power.
Tell you what, you shoot/hang/bury alive all of the idiots in your country that think a foreign citizen has committed treason (WTF!?!?!) by publishing information leaked by one of your own citizens and then we can talk. Until then, you may as well suck up that propaganda and I'll just keep spitting it back out all over idiots who think it's digestible.
Well you're an arrogant arsehole, aren't you? You've just accused the guy of a bunch of stuff you've derived from your own assumptions, you appear to deride the guy as being obsessed with prestige and then you go on to blow your own trumpet.
You come off as an arrogant and hypocritical prick. And while you might be good a mathematics, I would hazard a guess you're not much use for anything else... case in point: you deride people who, knowing that they don't have the skills to do a task on their own, call on friends for help. Going it alone is generally a less successful strategy if the sum of human achievement is anything to go by.
Yup. We are glad to be rid of him... (except he does still own a few papers here, but none that any sane person actually believes to be factual). Shit, even his own mum doesn't like him....
Can't comment on their bias not being in the US, but I do notice that for most Americans, left wing is anything to the left of what the rest of the world calls centre-right.