I too am sorry for your pain. It means nothing to reality, though. Reality is reality, it doesn't care about your feelings or mine, your wishes or mine, your faith or mine.... it is reality. In reality, there is no evidence, and never has been any evidence, that God exists... none, not a single shred, ever in the history of the human species. Teaching that there is to a bunch of impressionable children, should be considered a vile form of abuse.
but one South Korean researcher predicts it could be over a thousand times faster than current 4G networks.
Maybe in every other country in the world, but here in the US the companies will buy enough politicians that they can have 5G legally defined as somewhere between 3G and where 4G is supposed to be.
I have not put forth a scientific hypothesis (nor did i try to), i have put forth a suggestion based on very fucking big numbers. You may feel your ego needs to be stroked because YOU personally haven't seen life elsewhere... but no one gives a fuck. It is far more likely there are an incredible vast number of other places in the universe with life than it is that we're it.
The old biology rule is: if you have a sample of one, you make the assumption that it is "average."
But more on point, people who suggest there's no reason to think that there isn't other places in the universe with life tend not to understand how truly fucking huge the universe is.
There are 88 objects (known) in our solar system larger than 200 miles in diameter. We know one has life, we believe 3 others have a promising chance to have life (Enceladus, Titan. Europa), as well as the possibility of subterranean life on Mars (methane venting).
So lets do some math. There's 88 objects around our star. There is an estimated 300-500 billion stars in our galaxy. There is an estimated 100-200 billion galaxies in the observable universe, however newer models project 500 billion; the estimated diameter of the observable being 93 billion light years. Various estimates of the size of the universe overall range from 250 times the size of the observable to 3x10e23 times the size.
You do the math on how many objects that are out there. Again, anyone who doesn't think the odds are there's any life out there don't understand how fucking big an "out there" it is.
It'd raise the price of beef 1 cent per pound to test every cow slaughtered,
Wow... you're a deluded idiot. From TFA, which you obviously did not read:
A U.S.D.A. surveillance program tests brain tissue taken from about 40,000 dead cows a year for BSE.
"Commercial cattle slaughter during 2012 totaled 33.0 million head" (pg6)
At least Ihop0 wasn't a deluded enough of an idiot to confuse 40,000 to 33 million.
Also from the article:
Another key part of the U.S. food safety net is to make sure that animal tissues that can carry BSE - including the brain and spinal cord - are removed from cattle before they're processed for food.
Not only are you a deluded idiot, but you're too stupid to do the barest of study:
It's easy to say there's no concerns when it can take 30yrs to manifest
"The incubation period is the time it takes you to become sick after you've contracted a disease. Cold symptoms usually start a day or two after you're exposed to a cold virus, for example, whereas the time frame for CJD is considerably longer. We think that it often takes years or even decades after exposure to the infectious forms before someone with CJD develops signs and symptoms of the disease."
And once again, at least Ihop0 wasn't a deluded idiot enough not to understand that the people didn't contract the disease initially the second they started showing initial symptoms.... although the quote you have there from wikipedia basically reinforces what he said, instead of what you are trying to imply.
So, what was our point other than randomly try to bash someone by having your inability to understand the written word flair up?
And more censorship by the radical conservative trolls who put ideology before anything else. My comment stands as accurate, the two thread in the chain are nothing more than ideologues who are too fucking stupid to understand what the words they're using mean, but as long as they can spout complete fucking bullshit that the conservative trolls agree with, they're defended.
This IS the problem in this country.. stupid fucking idiots, not only like Oldhack and the coward... but the wanna be censors who also don't know what words fucking mean. You wonder why people think conservatives are stupid? This is exactly why.
Which simply shows you are too fucking stupid to know what a word means before using it. I suppose your one of these idiots that think these radical conservatives who denounce the US, talk secession, and want to use arms to confront the US are patriots too... instead of the seditious insurgents they actually are.
...and you use... stupidity. Got it. One of the biggest problems in this country are people like you and Oldhack who are too fucking stupid to learn what words mean before they use them.
I'd argue that all this talk about traveling in underwater vessels powered by electricity, or sending men to the moon (the audacity of even suggesting such!), or traveling around the world in only 80 days (80 DAYS!!!!!! Inconceivable) as popularized by science fiction writers (that wanna-be prophet and scoundrel Verne comes to mind) should never be considered as a possible future as it's JUST SCIENCE FICTION!
That little bit of sarcasm aside, the idea of sentient machines is a lot less like mystical prophecy, and a lot more like the idea that we might send a space probe to Europa because... well.. that's just the direction things are moving.
...but, as an aside to the author, 1860 called... if you don't get that horse and buggy back to them you're going to loose your deposit.
Some people just like to take confrontational standpoints because they find them fun.
....and some people are more versed in the history of the Christian religion, understand what the Council of Nicaea was, and are appalled that in this day in age people over the age of 5 still not only believe in fairy tales, but also try to subject society to their delusions. What you see as confrontational is really just some people concerned for these delusional peoples well being, and the fear that there's so many delusional people out there that they'll irreparably harm the entire human species..... because that's exactly what they seem bent on doing.
There is nothing worse than trying to get a spreadsheet person up and running on relational databases. They argue with you about every point, then they freak.
Sure there is... there's trying to get a db user to understand spreadsheets. How many times have i told you, the right tool for the right job (watch out for that low hanging pipe!..... nevermind....).
The scale/relationship i mentioned doesn't throw out the inflation model, in fact it fits well within it. In "The Inflationary Universe" by Guth, he suggests that the entire universe may be 3x10e23 larger than the observable universe (pg 186 if you're interested).
But that's not the only possibility. We know how big the observable part of the universe is.... what we don't know is how big it is beyond that, and the estimates are all over the board. The Great Wall may simply mean we're not thinking in a big enough scale. Now that's a brain shaker.... the entire observable universe being nothing more than a small, insignificant, backwater blip in the grand scheme of things.
You're conflating "government helping" with "the rich buying all the power." You are innately wrong. Without government standing up for the citizens of this country, we have nothing more than a feudal state where the wealthy do as they please, and fuck everyone else. That's the direction it's going with the fascist corporate enablers on SCOTUS the past decade, but that's not government... that's ideologues who are dismantling the government in favor of corporations and oligarchs. When "the rich and powerful take advantage" is not a definition of "government help" in any sense of the phrase, or reality.
You also seem to forget that Bush Jr had a republican house and senate for his first 6 years, and what that got us was them pissing away a budget surplus that was projected to be able to pay off the entirety of the national debt in 11-13 years, the first two wars in the countries history that did not come with a tax increase to help pay for them, and a taxpayer money giveaway to big pharma by enshrining the price fixing/no negotiation of medication costs in Medicare Part D.
We do need an opposition in politics... but that opposition must be intelligent, and it must actually want to govern. Those are two qualities that are completely missing from the republicans at present. The only thing they give a damn about is themselves staying in power.
Not anymore; now we can do both at the same time! According to myth, the Earth was created in six days. Now, watch out! Here comes Genesis! We'll do it for you in six minutes! -- Bones
Yes, however because government can alter both revenue and expenditures every year, the point is moot. The difference in accounting needs to be applied to all things if you're going to apply it to one, and we can see the ridiculousness of the accrual method for a government by looking at the USPS. USPS is making a profit each year, until you factor in the pre-paid payments they've been forced to make for pensions for 75 years in advance. They are paying right now for the retirement of workers who will not be born for another 20-40 years.
And lets be sure to make people perfectly aware of the situation. Your statement "Under accrual accounting ("generally accepted accounting principles"), which the government does not have to follow, SS and Medicare did not run surpluses" tries to insinuate that somehow government has exempted themselves from using proper accounting methods. They have not. Both accounting methods are equally valid, and both are generally accepted. Because you would prefer them to use something other than what they use does not diminish the validity of what they are using.
Because we're talking about the US government, the big reasons a PAYG basis is not looked on favorably for businesses are moot. Cash flow changes are mostly immaterial, and the lack of security is moot; the worlds financial reserves are in dollars.... that alone is a form of security no other entity can hope to achieve. As for tax considerations, well, that's entirely moot to this specific discussion. So you're left with a valid accepted accounting practice.
So until the US government switches to an accrual basis, which will be never, what you've said is moot. In addition to that, it's not entirely a PAYG basis, as it does accumulate funds and is not limited in payouts purely on the revenues of a given year. The Social Security fund is in the black for 20+ years.
But lets go back to that F-35 program. Under your accrual method, that would be 1.4 trillion dollars taken out of the functioning budget of the US, and more every year as they reevaluate the cost of the program... and that program has ballooned in cost incredibly fast.
Yes, as it should be. What those who bring up SS and Medicare never seem to want to say is that there is a specific tax collected to pay for those items, and until the recent collapse a few years ago, that tax brought in a SURPLUS every year. Even with a few years of no surplus from revenue (it's reserves are still growing, however), the fund will be in the black for the next 20+ years. Try blaming something that isn't affecting the budget with a negative.
Here's an idea, lets gt rid of the F-35 program, a plane we don't need, is behind schedule, is massively over budget, and still can barely get off the ground. The cost projection for that one useless pork program, if given straight to NASA, would double their budget for the next 80 years.... of course, that's ignoring any MORE cost overruns that the F-35 will have in the future. It's odd, i don't find the phrase "create and maintain a global military hegemony" anywhere in the Constitution.
The answer to the question put forth, though, is pretty simple: congress has been inundated with complete fucking idiots who couldn't think their way out of a wet paper bag even if they had instructions. The complete idiots who are anti-science, anti-education, anti-intelligence... these people who rail against progress, all the while using and abusing their positions for their own political power. That's why we're in this situation. Every time you see someone on these boards who complain NASA isn't needed, or hasn't done anything useful.... those people exemplify is the reason why we're at this point: pure, unadulterated, stupidity.
This dipshit wasn't bullied or threatened or anything else. His worthless piece of shit article he wrote was denied publication because it was a worthless piece of shit article. Science journals try not to print worthless piece of shit articles..... even though i understand that's the only kind you seem to prefer; that says a lot more about your useless fucking worldview of wanting to be a fucking stupid idiot than it does about a science journal upholding high standards. As for a consensus... there is one, whether your butthurt that 97% or so of these very highly educated people think your a fucking idiot or not. If you don't know the science, your opinion means nothing, regardless of how big an egotistical little twat you are.
You want to be useful to the discussion? Quit being a twat.
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If it ain't advanced enough to be indistinguishable from magic, it won't pry our misbegotten race off the couch and away from the TV.
I too am sorry for your pain. It means nothing to reality, though. Reality is reality, it doesn't care about your feelings or mine, your wishes or mine, your faith or mine.... it is reality. In reality, there is no evidence, and never has been any evidence, that God exists... none, not a single shred, ever in the history of the human species. Teaching that there is to a bunch of impressionable children, should be considered a vile form of abuse.
but one South Korean researcher predicts it could be over a thousand times faster than current 4G networks.
Maybe in every other country in the world, but here in the US the companies will buy enough politicians that they can have 5G legally defined as somewhere between 3G and where 4G is supposed to be.
Are you intentionally trying to be an asshat?
I have not put forth a scientific hypothesis (nor did i try to), i have put forth a suggestion based on very fucking big numbers. You may feel your ego needs to be stroked because YOU personally haven't seen life elsewhere... but no one gives a fuck. It is far more likely there are an incredible vast number of other places in the universe with life than it is that we're it.
Give your fucking ego a rest.
The old biology rule is: if you have a sample of one, you make the assumption that it is "average."
But more on point, people who suggest there's no reason to think that there isn't other places in the universe with life tend not to understand how truly fucking huge the universe is.
There are 88 objects (known) in our solar system larger than 200 miles in diameter. We know one has life, we believe 3 others have a promising chance to have life (Enceladus, Titan. Europa), as well as the possibility of subterranean life on Mars (methane venting).
So lets do some math. There's 88 objects around our star. There is an estimated 300-500 billion stars in our galaxy. There is an estimated 100-200 billion galaxies in the observable universe, however newer models project 500 billion; the estimated diameter of the observable being 93 billion light years. Various estimates of the size of the universe overall range from 250 times the size of the observable to 3x10e23 times the size.
You do the math on how many objects that are out there. Again, anyone who doesn't think the odds are there's any life out there don't understand how fucking big an "out there" it is.
It'd raise the price of beef 1 cent per pound to test every cow slaughtered,
Wow... you're a deluded idiot. From TFA, which you obviously did not read: A U.S.D.A. surveillance program tests brain tissue taken from about 40,000 dead cows a year for BSE.
http://usda01.library.cornell....
"Commercial cattle slaughter during 2012 totaled 33.0 million head" (pg6)
At least Ihop0 wasn't a deluded enough of an idiot to confuse 40,000 to 33 million.
Also from the article: Another key part of the U.S. food safety net is to make sure that animal tissues that can carry BSE - including the brain and spinal cord - are removed from cattle before they're processed for food.
Not only are you a deluded idiot, but you're too stupid to do the barest of study:
It's easy to say there's no concerns when it can take 30yrs to manifest
Most victims die six months after initial symptoms appear, often of pneumonia due to impaired coughing reflexes. About 15% of patients survive for two or more years.[12] Some patients have been known to live 4â"5 years with mostly psychological symptoms until the disease progresses causing more physical symptoms leading to a diagnosis and inevitable death usually within the first year of diagnosis.
http://memory.ucsf.edu/cjd/ove...
"The incubation period is the time it takes you to become sick after you've contracted a disease. Cold symptoms usually start a day or two after you're exposed to a cold virus, for example, whereas the time frame for CJD is considerably longer. We think that it often takes years or even decades after exposure to the infectious forms before someone with CJD develops signs and symptoms of the disease."
And once again, at least Ihop0 wasn't a deluded idiot enough not to understand that the people didn't contract the disease initially the second they started showing initial symptoms.... although the quote you have there from wikipedia basically reinforces what he said, instead of what you are trying to imply.
So, what was our point other than randomly try to bash someone by having your inability to understand the written word flair up?
http://www.ibtimes.com/minimum...
Nuff said.
And more censorship by the radical conservative trolls who put ideology before anything else. My comment stands as accurate, the two thread in the chain are nothing more than ideologues who are too fucking stupid to understand what the words they're using mean, but as long as they can spout complete fucking bullshit that the conservative trolls agree with, they're defended.
This IS the problem in this country.. stupid fucking idiots, not only like Oldhack and the coward... but the wanna be censors who also don't know what words fucking mean. You wonder why people think conservatives are stupid? This is exactly why.
Which simply shows you are too fucking stupid to know what a word means before using it. I suppose your one of these idiots that think these radical conservatives who denounce the US, talk secession, and want to use arms to confront the US are patriots too... instead of the seditious insurgents they actually are.
Grow a brain, then use it.
...and you use... stupidity. Got it. One of the biggest problems in this country are people like you and Oldhack who are too fucking stupid to learn what words mean before they use them.
You line them up, and shoot all three of them in the head twice.
I'd argue that all this talk about traveling in underwater vessels powered by electricity, or sending men to the moon (the audacity of even suggesting such!), or traveling around the world in only 80 days (80 DAYS!!!!!! Inconceivable) as popularized by science fiction writers (that wanna-be prophet and scoundrel Verne comes to mind) should never be considered as a possible future as it's JUST SCIENCE FICTION!
...but, as an aside to the author, 1860 called... if you don't get that horse and buggy back to them you're going to loose your deposit.
That little bit of sarcasm aside, the idea of sentient machines is a lot less like mystical prophecy, and a lot more like the idea that we might send a space probe to Europa because... well.. that's just the direction things are moving.
Republicans in Texarse.
Some people just like to take confrontational standpoints because they find them fun.
.... but some are.
There is nothing worse than trying to get a spreadsheet person up and running on relational databases. They argue with you about every point, then they freak.
Sure there is... there's trying to get a db user to understand spreadsheets. How many times have i told you, the right tool for the right job (watch out for that low hanging pipe! ..... nevermind....).
The most important thing is to understand how to use the spreadsheets.
The most important thing is to understand how to use the spreadsheets.
The most important thing is to understand how to use the spreadsheets.
Knowledge is power.
The scale/relationship i mentioned doesn't throw out the inflation model, in fact it fits well within it. In "The Inflationary Universe" by Guth, he suggests that the entire universe may be 3x10e23 larger than the observable universe (pg 186 if you're interested).
But that's not the only possibility. We know how big the observable part of the universe is.... what we don't know is how big it is beyond that, and the estimates are all over the board. The Great Wall may simply mean we're not thinking in a big enough scale. Now that's a brain shaker.... the entire observable universe being nothing more than a small, insignificant, backwater blip in the grand scheme of things.
No.
You're conflating "government helping" with "the rich buying all the power." You are innately wrong. Without government standing up for the citizens of this country, we have nothing more than a feudal state where the wealthy do as they please, and fuck everyone else. That's the direction it's going with the fascist corporate enablers on SCOTUS the past decade, but that's not government... that's ideologues who are dismantling the government in favor of corporations and oligarchs. When "the rich and powerful take advantage" is not a definition of "government help" in any sense of the phrase, or reality.
You also seem to forget that Bush Jr had a republican house and senate for his first 6 years, and what that got us was them pissing away a budget surplus that was projected to be able to pay off the entirety of the national debt in 11-13 years, the first two wars in the countries history that did not come with a tax increase to help pay for them, and a taxpayer money giveaway to big pharma by enshrining the price fixing/no negotiation of medication costs in Medicare Part D.
We do need an opposition in politics... but that opposition must be intelligent, and it must actually want to govern. Those are two qualities that are completely missing from the republicans at present. The only thing they give a damn about is themselves staying in power.
Not anymore; now we can do both at the same time! According to myth, the Earth was created in six days. Now, watch out! Here comes Genesis! We'll do it for you in six minutes! -- Bones
Yes, however because government can alter both revenue and expenditures every year, the point is moot. The difference in accounting needs to be applied to all things if you're going to apply it to one, and we can see the ridiculousness of the accrual method for a government by looking at the USPS. USPS is making a profit each year, until you factor in the pre-paid payments they've been forced to make for pensions for 75 years in advance. They are paying right now for the retirement of workers who will not be born for another 20-40 years.
And lets be sure to make people perfectly aware of the situation. Your statement "Under accrual accounting ("generally accepted accounting principles"), which the government does not have to follow, SS and Medicare did not run surpluses" tries to insinuate that somehow government has exempted themselves from using proper accounting methods. They have not. Both accounting methods are equally valid, and both are generally accepted. Because you would prefer them to use something other than what they use does not diminish the validity of what they are using.
Because we're talking about the US government, the big reasons a PAYG basis is not looked on favorably for businesses are moot. Cash flow changes are mostly immaterial, and the lack of security is moot; the worlds financial reserves are in dollars.... that alone is a form of security no other entity can hope to achieve. As for tax considerations, well, that's entirely moot to this specific discussion. So you're left with a valid accepted accounting practice.
So until the US government switches to an accrual basis, which will be never, what you've said is moot. In addition to that, it's not entirely a PAYG basis, as it does accumulate funds and is not limited in payouts purely on the revenues of a given year. The Social Security fund is in the black for 20+ years.
But lets go back to that F-35 program. Under your accrual method, that would be 1.4 trillion dollars taken out of the functioning budget of the US, and more every year as they reevaluate the cost of the program... and that program has ballooned in cost incredibly fast.
Yes, as it should be. What those who bring up SS and Medicare never seem to want to say is that there is a specific tax collected to pay for those items, and until the recent collapse a few years ago, that tax brought in a SURPLUS every year. Even with a few years of no surplus from revenue (it's reserves are still growing, however), the fund will be in the black for the next 20+ years. Try blaming something that isn't affecting the budget with a negative.
Here's an idea, lets gt rid of the F-35 program, a plane we don't need, is behind schedule, is massively over budget, and still can barely get off the ground. The cost projection for that one useless pork program, if given straight to NASA, would double their budget for the next 80 years.... of course, that's ignoring any MORE cost overruns that the F-35 will have in the future. It's odd, i don't find the phrase "create and maintain a global military hegemony" anywhere in the Constitution.
The answer to the question put forth, though, is pretty simple: congress has been inundated with complete fucking idiots who couldn't think their way out of a wet paper bag even if they had instructions. The complete idiots who are anti-science, anti-education, anti-intelligence... these people who rail against progress, all the while using and abusing their positions for their own political power. That's why we're in this situation. Every time you see someone on these boards who complain NASA isn't needed, or hasn't done anything useful.... those people exemplify is the reason why we're at this point: pure, unadulterated, stupidity.
Still being stupid as fuck i see.
This dipshit wasn't bullied or threatened or anything else. His worthless piece of shit article he wrote was denied publication because it was a worthless piece of shit article. Science journals try not to print worthless piece of shit articles..... even though i understand that's the only kind you seem to prefer; that says a lot more about your useless fucking worldview of wanting to be a fucking stupid idiot than it does about a science journal upholding high standards. As for a consensus... there is one, whether your butthurt that 97% or so of these very highly educated people think your a fucking idiot or not. If you don't know the science, your opinion means nothing, regardless of how big an egotistical little twat you are.
You want to be useful to the discussion? Quit being a twat.
...yet still no pics of Jackie-O? Obviously they're only a second rate tabloid.