I don't think anyone is blaming Sun. It's their code, they can license it however they choose.
The question is why did the Debian leaders decide to circumvent the normal discussion? Debian doesn't owe Sun anything... Did Sun promise to make some kind of hardware donation or something? And if there was a deal like that would it make the situation better or worse?
It's pretty obvious that discussing java's license was going to be slow and painful and so it's also obviously why people would want to short circuit the whole process. But once you think about it for 5 seconds that's a really stupid plan. People are still going to discuss it but now they're going to be more pissed off.
Also this email is stupid. Debian needs SPI and when people start suggesting otherwise that means they are taking a vacation in retardo-land.
Here's the other thing. When I heard Debian had included java into their distro, I was like, "Wow. That must be a really improved license. Debian doesn't just include any old license into the distro." But a week later, I learned that 3 debian leaders had rammed java through without any discussion and really the license was very questionable. Debian is basically going off the informal Sun FAQ when they included. Does anyone even know that the FAQ was written by a lawyer or was it written by an intern in the PR dept?
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Obviously you made a mistake in hiring them in the first place.
Firing people is bad for morale. It means that people shouldn't trust you. It means that your remaining employees should start looking for a different job.
Whenever I was a manager, I protected my employees. If they messed up, I coverred for them and helped them fix the problem. I have their back and I expect the same in return.
I think some people feel that because India is a long way away those employees don't matter. Only a sick kind of employer would feel that way. Once you hire someone you owe it to them to make it work.
Whenever I use office I'm like, "This thing has a blasted lot of features." I've never had a hard time discovering features. Even when I don't want to find features I discover new ones.
They said they wouldn't print any more Maurene O'Gara articles after she went crazy stalking Pamela Jones and making fun of her religion. So now they're printing MoG's articles but without any attribution.
As always with MoG, the article is misleading. The judge didn't accept the facts as true. To dismiss a lawsuit the judge has to say: "If these were all true, should the case go forward?" In this case the answer is no. The "if" is important.
Anyway here is the original article where the Daniel Wallace stupidness started. The actual syscon link is offline because syscon took all MoG's stuff offline.
Daniel Wallace is a net kook. I wouldn't be surprised if he created a slashdot login to respond anonymously to this article. He always posts about how the GPL is a contract not a license. He is not a legal genius but he is funny.
Maurene O'Gara is evil. She lies constantly. I've never seen anyone who is as sick and twisted as she is. I despise her.
Don't teach vi. That's a waste of time if the class is about programming. Let the students use whatever they want and figure that out on their own.
Visual C++ really sucks. You've got all these weird autogenerated project files. With C++ it's simpler to just not use an IDE at first. Python IDEs are much easier since python programs don't need a build system or any of that.
Teach whatever will let you focus most on Python or Java and the IDE.
They're not a for profit business catering to voyeurs?
It can be kind of amusing to watch cctv. If it's got those java controls and you can move it in and out and zoom. Woz used to have one in his office and you could zoom in on his nose. Also it's interesting to watch construction workers running around like little ant building a sky scraper. Also I like to try guess where the cctv is and see the weather in different parts of the world.
It sounds like you can't really articulate a need for sudo but you're just doing it because you read about it. Sudo isn't magically better if you don't use the features.
Also it annoys me that sudo seems to have a lot of security bugs. It had 3 local exploits last year... That doesn't affect whether you should use it or not because you obviously should, I'm just saying that it annoys me.
Most likely angels are going to come flying out of my butt.
The current administration wants to define torture as only things that leave a permanent mark. Everyone knows there are ways to torture people that don't leave a permanent mark. I believe Bush explicitly allows the use of presure points, sleep deprevation, isolation and near drowning.
Bill Gate's main criticism was that you could get a much better Oragami system for between $600 - $1000 so what's the point? Yippee-kai-skippy for blasted Bill Gates that he can't notice the difference and extra 0 makes in a price tag.
Cell phones are more expensive. Obviously smaller techn is always going to be more expensive. Cell phones don't have decent keyboards and they don't have a decent screen size.
Cell phone are not even programable so they're pretty much useless from a programing perspective. (Kind of obvious I guess, but you asked).
The prayers used in this experiment were from randomly selected church congregations. But 95% of the patients recieved small amounts of unsanctioned prayer from their relatives and friends. The experimenters did not even make a decent attempt to limit these prayers...
When I went to college, the Chancelor's office was big on a the laptop requirement. At first the whole student body protested and won.
Then the Chancelor's office made the push again that same year, but this time they said people couldn't protest. There was a teacher from the computer science group who was in on it. He said that people were too late it had already been decided.
The ACM club still protested. Eventually, the liberal arts students were forced to buy laptops but the engineering students weren't.
That was good for me. The laptop requirement was stupid. I was broke. I had a crappy cheap computer running linux and at that time laptops were expensive.
These days, laptops are cheaper but it would still annoy me. It's like the whole school uniform thing. Next they're going to force you to run school approved software. Computer lab computers are disgusting, you shouldn't have to own one.
In the west we are over saturated with media. We just don't have time to care about every little thing anymore.
When I was growing up in Africa I read all the back issues of National Geographic going back 20 years. These days I spend a couple hours every day reading news on the internet but I don't have time to read magazines.
I hate how lazy and irresponsible the mainstream media is these days.
The original article basically implied that Quinn was taking gifts from vendors to travel to conferences all over the world. This turned out to be false. So basically falsehoods. My feeling is that Quinn deserves an appology at minimum.
Then the "investigation" is just the Ombudsman phoning the reporter up, the reporter says there isn't any issue so it's fine. Plus some excuses about how busy the Ombudsman is and how his assistant is only part time. Mix in a few ad hominem attacks.
Nice. Way to go. It's goot that we have moronic lazy turd to keep everyone honest.
Admins and developers always fight. Sometimes it makes sense to give the admins control and other times it makes sense to give the developers control.
If it's an internal system then I would give the developers root access. The worst thing that could happen is that you lose two days work. One day is lost because you have to go back to the previous back up. The other day is lost reinstalling. If you don't have backups or it takes more than a day to recover then you have a more fundamental problem.
There are seriously a lot of times when you do need root access in Linux. For example, if you want to loopback mount an ISO image and extract some files. Sure you could copy the image to your local box, but if it's at a remote site it could take an hour and use up the bandwidth for everyone in the office. It's a small thing but there are a million small things like this and my job is to bust tail all day long and someone is going to be hurting if they get in my way.
My experience is that people will surprise you with the good things that they do when you trust them.
I read an article that the spyware hadn't affected CD sales. Sony is there to make money not friends. Unless it makes an immediate impact on revenue they won't even notice.
Join me in wishing the whole Sony corporation a cold dark Christmas this year.
I don't plan on buying _any_ Sony products until after Christmas.
Sony doesn't care about what people think only about if people buy their products. If we don't make a measurable dent on the pocket book for a couple weeks then they'll just go back to installing spyware on all their CDs.
I hope a lot of other people decide to do the same thing.
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Hope that answers your question.
I don't think anyone is blaming Sun. It's their code, they can license it however they choose.
The question is why did the Debian leaders decide to circumvent the normal discussion? Debian doesn't owe Sun anything... Did Sun promise to make some kind of hardware donation or something? And if there was a deal like that would it make the situation better or worse?
You have to make nice to anyone doing you a favor for free, that includes lawyers.
It's pretty obvious that discussing java's license was going to be slow and painful and so it's also obviously why people would want to short circuit the whole process. But once you think about it for 5 seconds that's a really stupid plan. People are still going to discuss it but now they're going to be more pissed off.
Also this email is stupid. Debian needs SPI and when people start suggesting otherwise that means they are taking a vacation in retardo-land.
Here's the other thing. When I heard Debian had included java into their distro, I was like, "Wow. That must be a really improved license. Debian doesn't just include any old license into the distro." But a week later, I learned that 3 debian leaders had rammed java through without any discussion and really the license was very questionable. Debian is basically going off the informal Sun FAQ when they included. Does anyone even know that the FAQ was written by a lawyer or was it written by an intern in the PR dept?
Obviously you made a mistake in hiring them in the first place.
Firing people is bad for morale. It means that people shouldn't trust you. It means that your remaining employees should start looking for a different job.
Whenever I was a manager, I protected my employees. If they messed up, I coverred for them and helped them fix the problem. I have their back and I expect the same in return.
I think some people feel that because India is a long way away those employees don't matter. Only a sick kind of employer would feel that way. Once you hire someone you owe it to them to make it work.
No. O'Reilly as an INSTUTION screwed up and recieved an appropriately web2.0 response. They should just admit that they deserved it and move on.
Whenever I use office I'm like, "This thing has a blasted lot of features." I've never had a hard time discovering features. Even when I don't want to find features I discover new ones.
Seriously, it does seem like the wrong goal.
SysCon really sucks.
They said they wouldn't print any more Maurene O'Gara articles after she went crazy stalking Pamela Jones and making fun of her religion. So now they're printing MoG's articles but without any attribution.
As always with MoG, the article is misleading. The judge didn't accept the facts as true. To dismiss a lawsuit the judge has to say: "If these were all true, should the case go forward?" In this case the answer is no. The "if" is important.
Anyway here is the original article where the Daniel Wallace stupidness started. The actual syscon link is offline because syscon took all MoG's stuff offline.
Daniel Wallace is a net kook. I wouldn't be surprised if he created a slashdot login to respond anonymously to this article. He always posts about how the GPL is a contract not a license. He is not a legal genius but he is funny.
Maurene O'Gara is evil. She lies constantly. I've never seen anyone who is as sick and twisted as she is. I despise her.
Don't teach vi. That's a waste of time if the class is about programming. Let the students use whatever they want and figure that out on their own.
Visual C++ really sucks. You've got all these weird autogenerated project files. With C++ it's simpler to just not use an IDE at first. Python IDEs are much easier since python programs don't need a build system or any of that.
Teach whatever will let you focus most on Python or Java and the IDE.
They're not a for profit business catering to voyeurs?
It can be kind of amusing to watch cctv. If it's got those java controls and you can move it in and out and zoom. Woz used to have one in his office and you could zoom in on his nose. Also it's interesting to watch construction workers running around like little ant building a sky scraper. Also I like to try guess where the cctv is and see the weather in different parts of the world.
Then they would be able to listen to beautiful music.
It sounds like you can't really articulate a need for sudo but you're just doing it because you read about it. Sudo isn't magically better if you don't use the features.
Also it annoys me that sudo seems to have a lot of security bugs. It had 3 local exploits last year... That doesn't affect whether you should use it or not because you obviously should, I'm just saying that it annoys me.
> most likely access to the sports facilities.
Most likely angels are going to come flying out of my butt.
The current administration wants to define torture as only things that leave a permanent mark. Everyone knows there are ways to torture people that don't leave a permanent mark. I believe Bush explicitly allows the use of presure points, sleep deprevation, isolation and near drowning.
Bill Gate's main criticism was that you could get a much better Oragami system for between $600 - $1000 so what's the point? Yippee-kai-skippy for blasted Bill Gates that he can't notice the difference and extra 0 makes in a price tag.
Cell phones are more expensive. Obviously smaller techn is always going to be more expensive. Cell phones don't have decent keyboards and they don't have a decent screen size.
Cell phone are not even programable so they're pretty much useless from a programing perspective. (Kind of obvious I guess, but you asked).
The prayers used in this experiment were from randomly selected church congregations. But 95% of the patients recieved small amounts of unsanctioned prayer from their relatives and friends. The experimenters did not even make a decent attempt to limit these prayers...
Always add gaming programmers late in the project and to improve security and reliability.
When I went to college, the Chancelor's office was big on a the laptop requirement. At first the whole student body protested and won.
Then the Chancelor's office made the push again that same year, but this time they said people couldn't protest. There was a teacher from the computer science group who was in on it. He said that people were too late it had already been decided.
The ACM club still protested. Eventually, the liberal arts students were forced to buy laptops but the engineering students weren't.
That was good for me. The laptop requirement was stupid. I was broke. I had a crappy cheap computer running linux and at that time laptops were expensive.
These days, laptops are cheaper but it would still annoy me. It's like the whole school uniform thing. Next they're going to force you to run school approved software. Computer lab computers are disgusting, you shouldn't have to own one.
In the west we are over saturated with media. We just don't have time to care about every little thing anymore.
When I was growing up in Africa I read all the back issues of National Geographic going back 20 years. These days I spend a couple hours every day reading news on the internet but I don't have time to read magazines.
I hate how lazy and irresponsible the mainstream media is these days.
The original article basically implied that Quinn was taking gifts from vendors to travel to conferences all over the world. This turned out to be false. So basically falsehoods. My feeling is that Quinn deserves an appology at minimum.
Then the "investigation" is just the Ombudsman phoning the reporter up, the reporter says there isn't any issue so it's fine. Plus some excuses about how busy the Ombudsman is and how his assistant is only part time. Mix in a few ad hominem attacks.
Nice. Way to go. It's goot that we have moronic lazy turd to keep everyone honest.
Admins and developers always fight. Sometimes it makes sense to give the admins control and other times it makes sense to give the developers control.
If it's an internal system then I would give the developers root access. The worst thing that could happen is that you lose two days work. One day is lost because you have to go back to the previous back up. The other day is lost reinstalling. If you don't have backups or it takes more than a day to recover then you have a more fundamental problem.
There are seriously a lot of times when you do need root access in Linux. For example, if you want to loopback mount an ISO image and extract some files. Sure you could copy the image to your local box, but if it's at a remote site it could take an hour and use up the bandwidth for everyone in the office. It's a small thing but there are a million small things like this and my job is to bust tail all day long and someone is going to be hurting if they get in my way.
My experience is that people will surprise you with the good things that they do when you trust them.
I read an article that the spyware hadn't affected CD sales. Sony is there to make money not friends. Unless it makes an immediate impact on revenue they won't even notice.
Join me in wishing the whole Sony corporation a cold dark Christmas this year.
I don't plan on buying _any_ Sony products until after Christmas.
Sony doesn't care about what people think only about if people buy their products. If we don't make a measurable dent on the pocket book for a couple weeks then they'll just go back to installing spyware on all their CDs.
I hope a lot of other people decide to do the same thing.
He lives in Oakland. Lots of people in Oakland don't drive. Over half of my friends don't have a car.
What you need is a 2 stage process where the bank verifies that itself in the first stage.
1) Enter username.
2) The next page shows an image of your cat that you uploaded.
3) Enter digits from secure key