blocking installation of software that comes from anywhere except the official Application Store -- false there are multiple ways to install software used routinely: developer's installation capabilities, enterprise and academic servers, 3rd party app stores included with cloud MDM agreements...
Compare that to download from anywhere & install, which is the way with FSF software ? Apple is blocking you from doing this, that is what they mean. The developer installation/distribution method is braindead, you have to sign the package for the each and every target device. Now yes, you can get some agreement with Apple if you are big, successful, and/or have cash...
regulating every use of movies downloaded from iTunes -- I'm not sure if they mean the iTunes application or the iTunes cloud services.
Of course they mean DOWNLOAD from the Apple iTunes cloud services.
Go try and play that video on your GNU/Linux box.
How is it helpful for the FSF to word things in ways that lack nuance to the extent that they are just provably false? The Apple software distribution model prevents John Smith from releasing software for iOS without getting approval from Apple in any feasible way. That is a fact. The alternatives are not feasible for a single dev outfit.
As for the iTunes movie claim, if you do not understand the meaning of "download" in this day and age, nobody can help you.
Apple's claim is ridiculous! They claim that the copy from the mini to the master imaging system is illegal... How many mac shops (as in companies using a lot of macs) do that? Is that illegal, why is this function available to boot off the a central OSX server available then (MS admins, think of RIS)?
BTW, this does mean I cannot back up my Macs with time machine.... damn! Can I get time machine to use the root of a drive where I installed Mac OS X from the DVD, I think not...
The copy to ram can only be a violation if Apple can get the judge to agree that modifying the software to run with Psystar computers was illegal...
I think the telco's are ripping everybody off... with outrageous margins they manage to make quite substantial profit with "low" investment and that is the stock exchange's wet dream. They had a high investment curve when they started off because the infrastructure needed to be built and that was expensive... this has changed today, though. The result is a quite dense cellular network operated by a select few, who think shares and short term profit all the way. In the country where I live, you buy a pay-as-you-go card of any operator, it says 20 euro on the card, not how long you can call with it, and it is valid for two weeks, iirc. When you go into a store and ask for advice on which provider to choose, the vendor says: "Which provider is used by most of your friends? Find out and come back". They all have the same price scheme with little (if any) variation, calling a subscriber of another network costs more. The local equivalent of the FCC has fined them incredible amounts because of price-fixing so the prices have gone up across the board - because we have to pay for the fines...;-) and things still have not changed, they all have the same opaque pricing system... and you seriously think they are going to open the network to all kind of traffic?
I have bought a microsoft press book and a microsoft mouse (COM port mouse) many years ago, that's all the money they got and will ever get from me...
BUT, I just think that
Microsoft is not something worth investing in because the future is looking gloomy for them, that's what I intended to point out, they are fsck'd and ppl buy shares? WTF???;-) they can only fall now and they are... slowly but surely. That is why I do not get why ppl invest in them... like investing in titanic while it is sinking;-)... wait a few years, that they stabilize, then invest, no way the shares will rise very much in the longer term now...
As for the statistics:
If you took the time to read, you would have seen the professional side of things is much more important than the home business, XP and win2k were the same, except that xp had a fisherprice ui. So for businesses, that should not have made a great deal, however, look at the statistics...
they contradict what you say... how many ppl upgrade from Me to XP pro? thought so, they go for home editions... look at home editions... ppl liked Me, preferred 98 - I agree, both lame excuses for an OS... Me was a lousy attempt by MS to make XP look good, which it never has been!
They even tried to hide the DOS foundation in Me, LOL!
I liked win2k, lean, mean, sober, no bs or fuss OS and worked with it until 2003... then I switched to linux (desk)/MacOS(laptop) at work, which I used at home already since ~1997(linux) and 2001(MacOSX).
I do not really get all this crap about stock & shares... I would certainly not put any money in that company... Besides, since Microsoft have so harshly defended software patents, they should increase the fine 10 fold!
Besides, product activation and GA and all that crap has "significantly" increased Microsoft's revenue stream, get the facts!
http://www.klid.dk/statistics/mswin.html
check the increase from 2001-2002, oops, that's when XP came out with product activation.... ahhhhh, that's why the figures double, then.... wintards!
Just like firefox has been doing for years, then?
BTW, I have apple computers at home and an iPhone, which is a great device compared to the various Windows Mobile, Nokia and SonyEricksson phones I've had!
RDF when it comes to the iPhone, not so sure about that...
You should simply say US Americans, how hard can it be? And change the dictionary if it is wrong!
When you write "Americans", please remember you include those villain commies down south (Venezuela), you would not want to be assimilated to them, would you? Thought so!
PS: I have nothing against commies, social democrats or the like... thanks to them I have 27+ days off a year;-).
reference.com is wrong, how can the US be a democracy when it does not even have a "form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system"?
Who is ruling America is the big question, and I seriously believe it is not so much the president anymore, the last American president who had a say was shot by "his very own" administration.
On a forum, you always see customers complaining, that is what a forum is for! You also see customers threatening to leave, that is their way of trying to get the provider, Novell in this case, to fix the issue! Every piece of software I know has awful bugs, that is life!
They did not seriously believe that MS would sell large #'s of SLES licences in enterpsie (high rev for MS) markets instead of Windows?
How many ppl on this planet really believe MS is committed to selling any substantial number of SLES licenses, seriously?
Can somebody please remove the CEO of Novell? That guy has less brains than my goldfish!
You don't need that, just go ahead and do not allow them to mount external drives by not putting them in a group (name of group is distribution-dependent), easy, right?
I disagree with all of you, the issue is not so much standards, but using a monopoly to force feed a browser, Apple does not have a monopoly, with their 8% of the computer market. If they ever reach 50%, then I agree, they should have alternative browsers in their OS. Until then, it does not really matter... The thing with Media Player is that what MS was trying to do is kill MP3 and force-feed us WMA. The goal? modify wma once monopoly was reached so that alternate software cannot run it flawlessly or use patents to rid alternate software... Rockoon, please think before you type! The E.U. do not just pick on some company at will, they are pretty thick, but until now I have not seen them pick on a company unfairly....
The c:\Document and Settings\billg\My Documents\My Pictures issue has been fixed in Vista, they were "inspired" by Apple.
SP2 took care of hiding the Windows updates in the "Add/remove crapware" control. So that is fixed as well...
The registry is not fixed, though.;-)
The ms.com issues are far from fixed... still bloated crap...
I'll stick with Solaris...
You do not get the point!
If my daughter Emma (6 years) wants the latest tuxpaint, why can't she just install it into her home directory? Seriously, that is possible if you download the sources or the tgz and compile/expand, but apt should be able to do that,right?
This has been the 'usual' way of installing software for 20+ years on Unix... come on debian, you can do it, yes you can!
Of course I do not want my 6 year old daughter installing stuff into/usr, doh!, But into her home directory, why not???? Maybe she fucks up her home dir, ok... I have to fix it then, but still she should be able to install whatever she wants in her home... where is the problem?
Unlike on windows, on linux/unix installing elsewhere works great!
I use ubuntu, but why do you need admin rights to install software???? Should you not be able to do 'apt-get install' and it actually installs it into your home directory?
You see, ubuntu/debian is flawed as well!
I think the worst, though is why do you need admin rights to search for software????? That is cretin!
'apt-cache search' does not work under an unprivileged account... as much as I hate windows and love linux, this is bad... in OSX, easy, drag the application into you ~/Applications directory....
We have a lot to learn from MacOS X!
PS: When I compile and it's only forme, I usually put into my ~/bin
I think this patent stuff is all just FUD, I mean seriously, imagine for one second that M$ had the magic patent that covers this or that GNU/linux technology, they would have brought that up long time ago, why wait... they have been fealing the GNU/linux pain for years now?
I find it pretty weird as well, that the banks all of a sudden put a lot of pressure on Novell, saying they would have to pay all their loans back, 'just because' Novell, like many other Tech companies, was late in submitting their finacial results.... this sounds real fishy to me. I am not usually a conspiracy theorist, but this is weird!
Well, I guess Novell will die soon... in 2 years time, Novell will be dead!
How many times must we partner with MS, until we all see that it's suicide?
The answer my friend, is blowing in the wind, the answer is blowing in the wind!
IBM(DOS), Apple(gui), IBM(OS2), Sybase(SQL Server), SGI(OpenGL)..... Novell(Suse)
Microsoft got cancer and is now suffering from mental distress with communist hallucinations?
Anakin (Novell) has been seduced by the darker side of the force and turned its back on the alliance, !
Padmé (Suse) has committed suicide, their only business devision that was making money has just been thrown out of the door.
Novell, why are you guyz sooooo smart?
I do not really care, I do not use either of the two... so it does not affect me -
but I am unsure if the windows MCSE (LOL) admins will be able to manage Suse Enterprise servers.... LOL
I guess the jedi (aka community) will turn its back on Anakin immediately, there are enough "M$ is evil" guyz out there and linux is more than just software & business - its all about passion with passionate fealings and reactions.
Linux vs Microsoft
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blocking installation of software that comes from anywhere except the official Application Store -- false there are multiple ways to install software used routinely: developer's installation capabilities, enterprise and academic servers, 3rd party app stores included with cloud MDM agreements... ...
Compare that to download from anywhere & install, which is the way with FSF software ? Apple is blocking you from doing this, that is what they mean. The developer installation/distribution method is braindead, you have to sign the package for the each and every target device. Now yes, you can get some agreement with Apple if you are big, successful, and/or have cash
regulating every use of movies downloaded from iTunes -- I'm not sure if they mean the iTunes application or the iTunes cloud services. Of course they mean DOWNLOAD from the Apple iTunes cloud services.
Go try and play that video on your GNU/Linux box.
How is it helpful for the FSF to word things in ways that lack nuance to the extent that they are just provably false?
The Apple software distribution model prevents John Smith from releasing software for iOS without getting approval from Apple in any feasible way. That is a fact. The alternatives are not feasible for a single dev outfit.
As for the iTunes movie claim, if you do not understand the meaning of "download" in this day and age, nobody can help you.
Apple's claim is ridiculous! They claim that the copy from the mini to the master imaging system is illegal ... How many mac shops (as in companies using a lot of macs) do that? Is that illegal, why is this function available to boot off the a central OSX server available then (MS admins, think of RIS)?
BTW, this does mean I cannot back up my Macs with time machine .... damn! Can I get time machine to use the root of a drive where I installed Mac OS X from the DVD, I think not ...
The copy to ram can only be a violation if Apple can get the judge to agree that modifying the software to run with Psystar computers was illegal ...
He joined Microsoft in 2002, is he to blame for the Vista debacle?
I think the telco's are ripping everybody off ... with outrageous margins they manage to make quite substantial profit with "low" investment and that is the stock exchange's wet dream. They had a high investment curve when they started off because the infrastructure needed to be built and that was expensive ... this has changed today, though. The result is a quite dense cellular network operated by a select few, who think shares and short term profit all the way. In the country where I live, you buy a pay-as-you-go card of any operator, it says 20 euro on the card, not how long you can call with it, and it is valid for two weeks, iirc. When you go into a store and ask for advice on which provider to choose, the vendor says: "Which provider is used by most of your friends? Find out and come back". They all have the same price scheme with little (if any) variation, calling a subscriber of another network costs more. The local equivalent of the FCC has fined them incredible amounts because of price-fixing so the prices have gone up across the board - because we have to pay for the fines ... ;-) and things still have not changed, they all have the same opaque pricing system ... and you seriously think they are going to open the network to all kind of traffic?
I have bought a microsoft press book and a microsoft mouse (COM port mouse) many years ago, that's all the money they got and will ever get from me ...
BUT, I just think that
Microsoft is not something worth investing in because the future is looking gloomy for them, that's what I intended to point out, they are fsck'd and ppl buy shares? WTF??? ;-) they can only fall now and they are ... slowly but surely. That is why I do not get why ppl invest in them ... like investing in titanic while it is sinking ;-) ... wait a few years, that they stabilize, then invest, no way the shares will rise very much in the longer term now ...
As for the statistics:
If you took the time to read, you would have seen the professional side of things is much more important than the home business, XP and win2k were the same, except that xp had a fisherprice ui. So for businesses, that should not have made a great deal, however, look at the statistics ...
they contradict what you say ... how many ppl upgrade from Me to XP pro? thought so, they go for home editions ... look at home editions ... ppl liked Me, preferred 98 - I agree, both lame excuses for an OS ... Me was a lousy attempt by MS to make XP look good, which it never has been!
They even tried to hide the DOS foundation in Me, LOL!
I liked win2k, lean, mean, sober, no bs or fuss OS and worked with it until 2003 ... then I switched to linux (desk)/MacOS(laptop) at work, which I used at home already since ~1997(linux) and 2001(MacOSX).
I do not really get all this crap about stock & shares ... I would certainly not put any money in that company ... Besides, since Microsoft have so harshly defended software patents, they should increase the fine 10 fold!
Besides, product activation and GA and all that crap has "significantly" increased Microsoft's revenue stream, get the facts!
http://www.klid.dk/statistics/mswin.html
check the increase from 2001-2002, oops, that's when XP came out with product activation .... ahhhhh, that's why the figures double, then .... wintards!
Just like firefox has been doing for years, then? BTW, I have apple computers at home and an iPhone, which is a great device compared to the various Windows Mobile, Nokia and SonyEricksson phones I've had! RDF when it comes to the iPhone, not so sure about that ...
You should simply say US Americans, how hard can it be? And change the dictionary if it is wrong! When you write "Americans", please remember you include those villain commies down south (Venezuela), you would not want to be assimilated to them, would you? Thought so! PS: I have nothing against commies, social democrats or the like ... thanks to them I have 27+ days off a year ;-).
Now we know why they are not selling as much as they could/should!
reference.com is wrong, how can the US be a democracy when it does not even have a "form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system"? Who is ruling America is the big question, and I seriously believe it is not so much the president anymore, the last American president who had a say was shot by "his very own" administration.
If you ever get close to a linux workstation, don't ever run the program called fortune, never, promise?
You should have gone to see the Novell sales guyz and ask for a POC, that's their job.
On a forum, you always see customers complaining, that is what a forum is for! You also see customers threatening to leave, that is their way of trying to get the provider, Novell in this case, to fix the issue! Every piece of software I know has awful bugs, that is life!
They did not seriously believe that MS would sell large #'s of SLES licences in enterpsie (high rev for MS) markets instead of Windows? How many ppl on this planet really believe MS is committed to selling any substantial number of SLES licenses, seriously? Can somebody please remove the CEO of Novell? That guy has less brains than my goldfish!
You don't need that, just go ahead and do not allow them to mount external drives by not putting them in a group (name of group is distribution-dependent), easy, right?
I disagree with all of you, the issue is not so much standards, but using a monopoly to force feed a browser, Apple does not have a monopoly, with their 8% of the computer market. If they ever reach 50%, then I agree, they should have alternative browsers in their OS. Until then, it does not really matter ... The thing with Media Player is that what MS was trying to do is kill MP3 and force-feed us WMA. The goal? modify wma once monopoly was reached so that alternate software cannot run it flawlessly or use patents to rid alternate software... Rockoon, please think before you type! The E.U. do not just pick on some company at will, they are pretty thick, but until now I have not seen them pick on a company unfairly....
The c:\Document and Settings\billg\My Documents\My Pictures issue has been fixed in Vista, they were "inspired" by Apple. SP2 took care of hiding the Windows updates in the "Add/remove crapware" control. So that is fixed as well ...
The registry is not fixed, though. ;-)
The ms.com issues are far from fixed ... still bloated crap...
I'll stick with Solaris ...
You do not get the point! If my daughter Emma (6 years) wants the latest tuxpaint, why can't she just install it into her home directory? Seriously, that is possible if you download the sources or the tgz and compile/expand, but apt should be able to do that,right? This has been the 'usual' way of installing software for 20+ years on Unix ... come on debian, you can do it, yes you can!
Of course I do not want my 6 year old daughter installing stuff into /usr, doh!, But into her home directory, why not???? Maybe she fucks up her home dir, ok ... I have to fix it then, but still she should be able to install whatever she wants in her home ... where is the problem?
Unlike on windows, on linux/unix installing elsewhere works great!
I use ubuntu, but why do you need admin rights to install software???? Should you not be able to do 'apt-get install' and it actually installs it into your home directory? You see, ubuntu/debian is flawed as well! I think the worst, though is why do you need admin rights to search for software????? That is cretin! 'apt-cache search' does not work under an unprivileged account ... as much as I hate windows and love linux, this is bad ... in OSX, easy, drag the application into you ~/Applications directory ....
We have a lot to learn from MacOS X!
PS: When I compile and it's only forme, I usually put into my ~/bin
I think this patent stuff is all just FUD, I mean seriously, imagine for one second that M$ had the magic patent that covers this or that GNU/linux technology, they would have brought that up long time ago, why wait ... they have been fealing the GNU/linux pain for years now? .... this sounds real fishy to me. I am not usually a conspiracy theorist, but this is weird! ... in 2 years time, Novell will be dead! ..... Novell(Suse)
I find it pretty weird as well, that the banks all of a sudden put a lot of pressure on Novell, saying they would have to pay all their loans back, 'just because' Novell, like many other Tech companies, was late in submitting their finacial results
Well, I guess Novell will die soon
How many times must we partner with MS, until we all see that it's suicide?
The answer my friend, is blowing in the wind, the answer is blowing in the wind!
IBM(DOS), Apple(gui), IBM(OS2), Sybase(SQL Server), SGI(OpenGL)
Microsoft got cancer and is now suffering from mental distress with communist hallucinations? Anakin (Novell) has been seduced by the darker side of the force and turned its back on the alliance, ! Padmé (Suse) has committed suicide, their only business devision that was making money has just been thrown out of the door. Novell, why are you guyz sooooo smart? I do not really care, I do not use either of the two ... so it does not affect me -
but I am unsure if the windows MCSE (LOL) admins will be able to manage Suse Enterprise servers .... LOL
I guess the jedi (aka community) will turn its back on Anakin immediately, there are enough "M$ is evil" guyz out there and linux is more than just software & business - its all about passion with passionate fealings and reactions.
Linux vs Microsoft
1st Round for Microsoft