I'm very glad to see this kind of progress actually taking place. Since I started not worrying about NS4 support (that is, giving NS4 dumbed-down or no styling at all), IE/win has become my arch-nemesis of web design. The broken box model alone is enough to keep a man (or woman) up nights.
I hope the introduction of AOL gecko clients, especially for windows, will put a damper on the attitude of many web authors that "IE is all that matters," and "mozilla sucks because it doesn't support industry standards."
Upgrade my video card? Hell, I have a hard enough time getting linux to play nice with the geforce2go as it is[1]. Why would I want a newer card? Sheesh.
But seriously forks, this kind of thing is neat. I'm not a fan of the one-year computer obsolescence, and as a starving college student, I'd kind of like to keep this laptop and keep it usable for a while yet.
Because I actually just want to, you know, watch the damn movie.
Guess I'm a bad American consumer or something, but if in November I have a hankering for that deleted footage, I'll rent the "specialer" edition. But realy, I just want to watch the movie! Sheesh. Newfangeld technology... shoulda kept my betamax....
Anyway, Larry Niven has the interesting answer - his "Gil 'The Arm' Hamilton" stories (collected in flatlander, i think) of a detective on future, overpopulated earth occasionally mention the slightly illegal process of thawing out those hopeless sods who had themselves frozen centuries ago in the hopes that the future could revive them ("corpsicles") and taking their organs to be sold on the organlegging black market.
Ick. I think I'll take atmospheric or solar cremation (or, you know, normal creation, if the others are still too expensive....).
from the and-when-usa-today-gives-you-props-you've-made-it dept.
Okay, I see the point about recognition from pop media, but still - this is USA Today we're talking about. The newspaper that thinks it's a TV show, fer cryin' out loud.
So given that the ATI USB TV tuner is the same price as Hauppage's but seems to be better feature-wise, does anyone have any grounds on which I shouldn't get it?
Cheers,
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Hell yeah. I wonder if we could get common sense web design morals added to the usual slashdot microsoft-is-evil attitude that accompanies stories. That'd be nice.
What about Jeffrey Veen's The Art and Science of Web Design? This is the only book you need to learn about smart web design. It covers the important topics - assuming you know some basic html - and introduces you to fundamental aspects of building sites. It's a bit too lenient regarding tables-for-layout and such, but then, it's a year or two old and I'm a fanatic.
Dabbled in HTML and want to learn the CSS and principles to really make it work? Check this one out. It's also in very pretty colors.
I certainly do not agree with you. Web development is principly about information architecture - the HTML. That's what really, really matters. Then you can get fancy with CSS and graphics - and javscript for the really fancy or for complex applications. But like mitchener said , JS is too often used merely for flashy effects, and while those can be cool, they are in no way important to an effective website. Javascript has its place and uses - one can make some great interfaces with it if one needs to - but I don't think it's nearly as important as you say it is.
For the past several weeks, I've had a perplexing but cool mousepad advertising "AIRBORNE LASER" (@ http://www.airbornelaser.com/, fancy that). It seems a goofy idea, and it has a really awful website. But, I dunno, it seems somewhat relevant to the discussion.
In what year were we supposed to have orbiting phaser platforms, again? I left my Star Trek Chronology at home for some reason.
(Oh, and my mousepad is even weirder when you consider where I'm working (I deny any connection to that site, yech).)
Hup, right here. The Zhirrzh aliens in Timothy Zahn's "Conqueror's saga used a metric time scale based on heartbeats (beat ~ second, hunbeat ~ minute) and, I believe, the movement of the sun.
Why not html? Because they're not just describing text here. There're all sorts of data associated with a piece of legislation, and an extensible - not a hyptertext - markup language is the best way to do it.
What about, for instance, weblogs, especially those powere dby Blogger? When Blogger "publishes" a weblog page, the page may have several days of posts on it - so the original post may have been uploaded to the server a month ago, but it just got re-uploaded when the user published a new entry.
Well, I'm still not motivated to buy their products, and I thought the future advertising was tanj cool (if scary).
But I see your point.:)
setting is excellent!
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The biggest failure of the movie may be the set design and the look. At one moment, we see computers to inspire the next generation from Apple, in another moment we're in a mall that isn't as fancy or as new as the mall around the corner from my house.
I disagree. That's one of the strengths. It is ony 50 years in the future, and Spielberg uses a few advances to make it both close to home and alien.
To get all Darko Suvin on the matter for a moment (Suvin is an esteemed critic of and thinker about sf, read his stuff, it rocks), it is clear that the makers of this movie know what their novum (the "difference" that makes it sf) is, and they're sticking to it - precrime. Other lesser nova include the retina-scans and neuroin. What is very, very successfully done is their ability to focus on the important nova and their effects on society without getting too fancy with flying cars and moon malls and so forth.
What I'm trying to say at 4:48 pm after a long hot day is that the movie is a masterful example of putting an alien concept in a familiar context - for maximum effect on the viewer. A bonus is the gritty feel, and it was cute for me as a DC resident to see the future of the city (you know, we have Lexus plants _all over_ Capitol Hill).
Good movie. See it.
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In the mad, mad world of Netscape 4-series' horrible CSS implementation, one of my favorites is in background-color (or any color property). If it encounters a string, it assumes it is facing one of the vast pantheon of "named colors" and insists on inteprreting it as such - which is handy for typos but not valid CSS like "inherit." Got a demo here, which links to a demo of similar behavior in all modern browsers as well as ns4.
Another excellent bug is in Opera. If an A element is set as block-level - that is, you give it display: block; - it will suddenly have an overline. The underline will disappear, and an overline will take its placed. So, if you're display: block'ing your A's, you gotta be specific about text-decoration (fortunately, most block A's are for sidebarish type things which will usually have text-decoration:none; anyways, but it's still a pain in the bum
I don't think so. There are easy ways to turn off styling for NS4, leaving the page usable but not so pretty. Anyway, I think it's still possible to make it look good in ns4.
NS4 doesn't deserve any love from us web creators anyway....
Ahoy love the google, it's the only engine I trust these days. Nevertheless....
For a site where speed and information delivery are of the utmost importance, and archaic table-based design seems rather strange. Is there any reason you have yet switched to a more forwards-compatible xhtml/css design? (Note that by "design" I mean more the html and css than the visual appearance of it)
For my own amusement, I've been looking at recoding the google design in CSS, and it's really not that hard.
Slashdot Mirror
Yeah, but a guy can dream. I'll just keep coding to standards and hacking for IE when necessary. :/
Do you really think AOL would keep the no-unrequested-windows option? NS6/7 didn't. :)
In windows, you could registry hack it in, though... presumably the same is possible in Mac OS X somehow.
...Web Standards Project link.
I'm very glad to see this kind of progress actually taking place. Since I started not worrying about NS4 support (that is, giving NS4 dumbed-down or no styling at all), IE/win has become my arch-nemesis of web design. The broken box model alone is enough to keep a man (or woman) up nights.
I hope the introduction of AOL gecko clients, especially for windows, will put a damper on the attitude of many web authors that "IE is all that matters," and "mozilla sucks because it doesn't support industry standards."
Upgrade my video card? Hell, I have a hard enough time getting linux to play nice with the geforce2go as it is[1]. Why would I want a newer card? Sheesh.
But seriously forks, this kind of thing is neat. I'm not a fan of the one-year computer obsolescence, and as a starving college student, I'd kind of like to keep this laptop and keep it usable for a while yet.
[1] Yes. Linux relative newbie. Deal.
Because I actually just want to, you know, watch the damn movie.
Guess I'm a bad American consumer or something, but if in November I have a hankering for that deleted footage, I'll rent the "specialer" edition. But realy, I just want to watch the movie! Sheesh. Newfangeld technology... shoulda kept my betamax....
(...but what about the "custom bookends"?)
I think Walt Disney isn't really frozen....
Anyway, Larry Niven has the interesting answer - his "Gil 'The Arm' Hamilton" stories (collected in flatlander, i think) of a detective on future, overpopulated earth occasionally mention the slightly illegal process of thawing out those hopeless sods who had themselves frozen centuries ago in the hopes that the future could revive them ("corpsicles") and taking their organs to be sold on the organlegging black market.
Ick. I think I'll take atmospheric or solar cremation (or, you know, normal creation, if the others are still too expensive....).
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Eh? I've had a PalmIII form factor device of one sort or another for three years and never encounted this kind of cradle....
Oh look, I can't use HTML.
*sigh*
Is the ATI TV Wonder USB. Anyone have any experience with or feelings about this one? I don't watch enough TV regularly to justtify actually owning a TV, but it's not a medium to which I want to lose access.
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So given that the ATI USB TV tuner is the same price as Hauppage's but seems to be better feature-wise, does anyone have any grounds on which I shouldn't get it?
Cheers,
Hell yeah. I wonder if we could get common sense web design morals added to the usual slashdot microsoft-is-evil attitude that accompanies stories. That'd be nice.
What about Jeffrey Veen's The Art and Science of Web Design? This is the only book you need to learn about smart web design. It covers the important topics - assuming you know some basic html - and introduces you to fundamental aspects of building sites. It's a bit too lenient regarding tables-for-layout and such, but then, it's a year or two old and I'm a fanatic.
Dabbled in HTML and want to learn the CSS and principles to really make it work? Check this one out. It's also in very pretty colors.
> I prefer the developer to have knowledge of what can be done with JavaScript without having to resort to server side trips.
Aye, I concur.
I certainly do not agree with you. Web development is principly about information architecture - the HTML. That's what really, really matters. Then you can get fancy with CSS and graphics - and javscript for the really fancy or for complex applications. But like mitchener said , JS is too often used merely for flashy effects, and while those can be cool, they are in no way important to an effective website. Javascript has its place and uses - one can make some great interfaces with it if one needs to - but I don't think it's nearly as important as you say it is.
Cheers,
For the past several weeks, I've had a perplexing but cool mousepad advertising "AIRBORNE LASER" (@ http://www.airbornelaser.com/, fancy that). It seems a goofy idea, and it has a really awful website. But, I dunno, it seems somewhat relevant to the discussion.
In what year were we supposed to have orbiting phaser platforms, again? I left my Star Trek Chronology at home for some reason.
(Oh, and my mousepad is even weirder when you consider where I'm working (I deny any connection to that site, yech).)
Also note that the bbc says:
"Mr Pemberton said its high ammonia content would have made it unpleasant to eat, tasting a bit like floor cleaner."
Timothy, you can have my helping.
Hup, right here. The Zhirrzh aliens in Timothy Zahn's "Conqueror's saga used a metric time scale based on heartbeats (beat ~ second, hunbeat ~ minute) and, I believe, the movement of the sun.
That's my contribution to the discussion.
Why not html? Because they're not just describing text here. There're all sorts of data associated with a piece of legislation, and an extensible - not a hyptertext - markup language is the best way to do it.
What about, for instance, weblogs, especially those powere dby Blogger? When Blogger "publishes" a weblog page, the page may have several days of posts on it - so the original post may have been uploaded to the server a month ago, but it just got re-uploaded when the user published a new entry.
Hmmm.
Who wouldn't like to see a Linux/Windows mine sweeper death match!
Sorry? They're going to play each other in minesweeper?
Well, I'm still not motivated to buy their products, and I thought the future advertising was tanj cool (if scary).
But I see your point. :)
The biggest failure of the movie may be the set design and the look. At one moment, we see computers to inspire the next generation from Apple, in another moment we're in a mall that isn't as fancy or as new as the mall around the corner from my house.
I disagree. That's one of the strengths. It is ony 50 years in the future, and Spielberg uses a few advances to make it both close to home and alien.
To get all Darko Suvin on the matter for a moment (Suvin is an esteemed critic of and thinker about sf, read his stuff, it rocks), it is clear that the makers of this movie know what their novum (the "difference" that makes it sf) is, and they're sticking to it - precrime. Other lesser nova include the retina-scans and neuroin. What is very, very successfully done is their ability to focus on the important nova and their effects on society without getting too fancy with flying cars and moon malls and so forth.
What I'm trying to say at 4:48 pm after a long hot day is that the movie is a masterful example of putting an alien concept in a familiar context - for maximum effect on the viewer. A bonus is the gritty feel, and it was cute for me as a DC resident to see the future of the city (you know, we have Lexus plants _all over_ Capitol Hill).
Good movie. See it.
In the mad, mad world of Netscape 4-series' horrible CSS implementation, one of my favorites is in background-color (or any color property). If it encounters a string, it assumes it is facing one of the vast pantheon of "named colors" and insists on inteprreting it as such - which is handy for typos but not valid CSS like "inherit." Got a demo here, which links to a demo of similar behavior in all modern browsers as well as ns4.
Another excellent bug is in Opera. If an A element is set as block-level - that is, you give it display: block; - it will suddenly have an overline. The underline will disappear, and an overline will take its placed. So, if you're display: block'ing your A's, you gotta be specific about text-decoration (fortunately, most block A's are for sidebarish type things which will usually have text-decoration:none; anyways, but it's still a pain in the bum
I don't think so. There are easy ways to turn off styling for NS4, leaving the page usable but not so pretty. Anyway, I think it's still possible to make it look good in ns4.
NS4 doesn't deserve any love from us web creators anyway....
Ahoy love the google, it's the only engine I trust these days. Nevertheless....
For a site where speed and information delivery are of the utmost importance, and archaic table-based design seems rather strange. Is there any reason you have yet switched to a more forwards-compatible xhtml/css design? (Note that by "design" I mean more the html and css than the visual appearance of it)
For my own amusement, I've been looking at recoding the google design in CSS, and it's really not that hard.
Thanks!