When the mill down the road was going to shut down, the workers got together and bought it. Now they're all still working, perhaps not for as high of wages as previous but on the other hand they have a bigger stake in being successful and an understanding of what limits their wages. That is a form of socialism, the workers owning the means of production and government involvement was minimal. (I believe some property taxes were deferred and the amount owing reduced, much the same kind of deal that other companies get)
Huh? My friend who works/owns a sawmill that the workers bought produces something and that is as socialist as you can get, with the workers owning the means of production. Then there is the credit union that I own a share of which produces the same kind of stuff that private banks do. Also the co-op that I also own a share of which produces much the same stuff as any other store. Even when the government is involved, the community owned damns do a good job of producing the electricity that enables posting this. Meanwhile the capitalists keep saving up their capital or gamble it on the stock market. If capital and lack of regulation created jobs the unemployment rate here would be dropping instead of increasing as my government has been hell bent on deregulating and the rich have been getting richer very fast.
It's different in Canada. A majority government can force through any bill they want with only the courts to keep them in check (thank god for the Constitution act of 1982). What this government has been doing is creating huge omnibus budget bills, like 800 pages with all kinds of horrible unpopular shit hiding in there, then they limit debate and invoke closure to pass it before the opposition can even finish reading it, little well bring up the negative parts in question period.
Well this government has been using copyright(1) to deny citizens access to taxpayer funded research and I'm sure they'd love to keep unfavourable research secret forever, I doubt they're looking that far in the future. 1. All government stuff is under the Queens copyright in Canada.
The Conservatives changed the rules to make it very hard and expensive to get on the ballot. Up until the last election there had always been close to a dozen names on the ballot for my MP, this made it easy to do a protest vote for someone like the Rhino party, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Last election there was only 3 or 4 names on the ballot as it is expensive ($10,000?). I don't think even the Green party was on the local ballot. Parliamentary system so all we vote for is our representative.
More likely coverage. Harper's government has been picking on the media companies until recently and now seems to be rewarding them. You don't win elections without positive coverage from the media. There's a lot of negative things to be said about Harper but he is very smart and patient.
While I'm sure there are nut cases who have no idea of the reality that things just can't change that fast without huge hardship, there is also the old negotiation tactics, ask for 50MPG for all cars and maybe get 30MPG, then ask for 60 and maybe get 35. This has been working, car mileage has improved quite a bit in recent years. Unluckily due to the nature of CO2 and its emitters, we're not going to get much more then a slowdown in the release of CO2, we're just too dependent on fossil fuels so really we should be planning on changes, many of which won't be for the better, at least short term.
And the worst part of winter seems to have started in April, at least that is when I first saw snow on the local hills this year (there was some in December). Keeping on topic, the wild bees were out in February when there were no local flowers out yet and later when the Huckleberries were flowering I saw no bees. Usually they're buzzing with various types of bee. Still cold and wet here and still no bees. No agriculture close by either.
I think they meant taking 6 DVDs from them, which often would mean breaking and entering, something I do agree should be illegal. I'm just amazed that such a huge number of DVDs, Blurays etc were taken.
The exclusive right to copy a work has *ALWAYS* existed.... if the creator doesn't publish in the first place, then their exclusivity on controlling the work is entirely natural. Before the printing press, exclusivity on controlling who could copy a work was a fortuitous side-effect of the fact that copying something was so labour-intensive and error prone, that it was not generally in would-be pirate's best interests to pursue it.
Bullshit, people freely copied right up until publishers came along and wanted money for free or close to it, by paying a pittance to an authour for his work and trying to keep a monopoly on it. There has always been musicians who freely copied each others work. There has been poetry for near forever which people freely copied. There has been stories told by people and freely copied probably since before humans were modern humans. At that people had very good memories before being literate was common and could repeat stories quite accurately.. There still primitive peoples who have no concept of copyright. Same with ideas, you saw someone do something new and you copied them.
As copying got easier after the printing press, some mechanism for keeping that exclusivity was needed, even it could only operate within a legal framework, and operate so long as people respected that law... which is what led to the creation of copyright.
No, when the printing press came along, government needed someway to censor and contracted it out to private publishers who censored in return for a monopoly. With the enlightenment censorship went away (at least partially) and the publishers lobbied for a law to entrench their monopoly, argueing even then that "it was for the artist" while ripping off the artist. The compromise was a limited monoploly for a limited time to advance learning with the works going into the public domain after that limited time. They also had to register and give a copy to one of the 2 main universities of the time. The idea of yours that sharing didn't happen is wrong as people naturally share abundant goods.
I had a USR Robotics USB Modem that worked as well as my Sportster until a power failure took it out. Now I have a computer with a serial port and an old Sportster. I'll note that I once picked up an AOL branded external modem, total piece of crap and would quicky train down to about a 0kb connection. Was lucky to load one page. So in rural areas it is worth getting a good modem.
Squid helps less and less as more sites go to HTTPS. I do have it locally installed but my son now refuses to use it and he's of age now so I can't really force him.
I don't know, but with a 26.4 connection it's pretty shitty. Too many sites take it for granted that everyone has a highspeed connection and load lots of graphics, videos and other crap. Noscript really helps though.
Not really. Don't know about Mac or Win8 but do know about Win7 and the last couple of Ubuntu releases (it's hard to acquire Linux on dial-up). Win7 does handle the USB modem fine but the sharing your connection has changed to sharing your connection with another Win7 computer. No more basic NAT like XP had. Ubuntu doesn't even ship with a dial-up client so ideally you have to figure out what deb you need and figure out how to download it. If your knowledgeable and know how to set up PAP secrets, the chat stuff and how to add users to the dial-up group you should be able to dial in with pon. Unluckily it seems quite broken in recent releases, last time it would dial in during boot and have a good connection which could be shared but I could never re-dial in. Of course you also have to figure out what device that USB modem is and how to symlink it to/dev/modem or whatever you have to do this year as/dev seems to be in a permanent state of flux. My theory with Linux is that all the developers have a good connection so dial-up is never really tested anymore. Here my dial-up serves ~4 devices so NAT is important and it is nice to auto-dial and hang up after a few minutes of inactivity.
Here where I live, there are mountains and trees blocking the view of the satellites and they're not my trees to cut down. As I'm 40 miles from the big city there is no cell service either. Phone lines are shit as well, 26.4 connection.
Yea, every animal species is different with even close relatives such as the various canine species varying quite a bit in their social interactions. There are some generalizations that can be made such as most all mammal mothers are protective of their young but generally you can't model our politics very much on other species. At that there is an amazing amount of variation in human societies, especially the primitive ones that developed alone.
Here in Canada there are lots of burger flippers that are brought in on our equivalent of H1Bs (foreign worker program). They'll work for minimum wage in a city where a really cheap house is $1.3 million, and once they've been abused by being employed at a different location then their visa allows, they can really be abused. Sadly a lot of employers are petty tyrants and it is easier to tyrannize people with no other choices.
Can you expand on that? What alternate driver of instinct do you have? Why does most every mammal care for its young? Why do you eat? Why are some people, often the opposite sex, so attractive?
A leftist libertarian. I mostly agree with you but from experience the danger of having a commune, even a small one, is a psychopath showing up and trying to run things. Psychopaths being manipulative bastards who don't shy away from violence and are often armed are hard to deal with. You can actually find yourself considering murder but often you're left with one option, leaving. This seems to have happened to Russia where it went from the workers owning the means of production to an elite running things and willing to do horrible things to run things the way they wanted. Lots of other examples as well. On the other hand I know a mill where the workers bought it when the owners decided to give up. It worked pretty well but eventually failed due to problems with trading partners (America and China) fucking the industry to protect their domestic industries.
Every animal species is different, with birds quite a bit different from mammals. In some ways the closest to humans is the grey wolf along with its close relative the domestic dog and a couple of other canine species. Co-operative hunting including the understanding that any member of the pack that gets injured will be cared for, food sharing, co-operative child rearing and a strong situational awareness of other members of the pack (which really helps when hunting big game) as examples.
People, either consciously or not, share when they think they will get a return, which could be anything from "a good feeling" to a favor that can now be asked for because they shared something.
That's how instincts work, animals, including humans, do stuff because it feels good. The bird flies south because it feels good, the mother looks after the infant because it feels good, the grey wolf shares with its pack because it feels good. The big difference with humans is we have a large fore brain which we use to rationalize our instincts and to a degree we can over ride our instincts. Having large brains also makes us easier to condition to certain behaviour
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When the mill down the road was going to shut down, the workers got together and bought it. Now they're all still working, perhaps not for as high of wages as previous but on the other hand they have a bigger stake in being successful and an understanding of what limits their wages. That is a form of socialism, the workers owning the means of production and government involvement was minimal. (I believe some property taxes were deferred and the amount owing reduced, much the same kind of deal that other companies get)
Sadly too often it ends up with the sales person getting most all the profits as you're just a technician.
Huh? My friend who works/owns a sawmill that the workers bought produces something and that is as socialist as you can get, with the workers owning the means of production. Then there is the credit union that I own a share of which produces the same kind of stuff that private banks do. Also the co-op that I also own a share of which produces much the same stuff as any other store.
Even when the government is involved, the community owned damns do a good job of producing the electricity that enables posting this.
Meanwhile the capitalists keep saving up their capital or gamble it on the stock market. If capital and lack of regulation created jobs the unemployment rate here would be dropping instead of increasing as my government has been hell bent on deregulating and the rich have been getting richer very fast.
It's different in Canada. A majority government can force through any bill they want with only the courts to keep them in check (thank god for the Constitution act of 1982).
What this government has been doing is creating huge omnibus budget bills, like 800 pages with all kinds of horrible unpopular shit hiding in there, then they limit debate and invoke closure to pass it before the opposition can even finish reading it, little well bring up the negative parts in question period.
Well this government has been using copyright(1) to deny citizens access to taxpayer funded research and I'm sure they'd love to keep unfavourable research secret forever, I doubt they're looking that far in the future.
1. All government stuff is under the Queens copyright in Canada.
The Conservatives changed the rules to make it very hard and expensive to get on the ballot. Up until the last election there had always been close to a dozen names on the ballot for my MP, this made it easy to do a protest vote for someone like the Rhino party, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Last election there was only 3 or 4 names on the ballot as it is expensive ($10,000?). I don't think even the Green party was on the local ballot.
Parliamentary system so all we vote for is our representative.
More likely coverage. Harper's government has been picking on the media companies until recently and now seems to be rewarding them. You don't win elections without positive coverage from the media.
There's a lot of negative things to be said about Harper but he is very smart and patient.
You're arming fetuses? Or you're carrying around pregnant women?
While I'm sure there are nut cases who have no idea of the reality that things just can't change that fast without huge hardship, there is also the old negotiation tactics, ask for 50MPG for all cars and maybe get 30MPG, then ask for 60 and maybe get 35. This has been working, car mileage has improved quite a bit in recent years.
Unluckily due to the nature of CO2 and its emitters, we're not going to get much more then a slowdown in the release of CO2, we're just too dependent on fossil fuels so really we should be planning on changes, many of which won't be for the better, at least short term.
Being a glacier sitting on land rather then an ice sheet floating on water.
And the worst part of winter seems to have started in April, at least that is when I first saw snow on the local hills this year (there was some in December). Keeping on topic, the wild bees were out in February when there were no local flowers out yet and later when the Huckleberries were flowering I saw no bees. Usually they're buzzing with various types of bee. Still cold and wet here and still no bees. No agriculture close by either.
I think they meant taking 6 DVDs from them, which often would mean breaking and entering, something I do agree should be illegal. I'm just amazed that such a huge number of DVDs, Blurays etc were taken.
The exclusive right to copy a work has *ALWAYS* existed.... if the creator doesn't publish in the first place, then their exclusivity on controlling the work is entirely natural. Before the printing press, exclusivity on controlling who could copy a work was a fortuitous side-effect of the fact that copying something was so labour-intensive and error prone, that it was not generally in would-be pirate's best interests to pursue it.
Bullshit, people freely copied right up until publishers came along and wanted money for free or close to it, by paying a pittance to an authour for his work and trying to keep a monopoly on it.
There has always been musicians who freely copied each others work. There has been poetry for near forever which people freely copied. There has been stories told by people and freely copied probably since before humans were modern humans. At that people had very good memories before being literate was common and could repeat stories quite accurately..
There still primitive peoples who have no concept of copyright.
Same with ideas, you saw someone do something new and you copied them.
As copying got easier after the printing press, some mechanism for keeping that exclusivity was needed, even it could only operate within a legal framework, and operate so long as people respected that law... which is what led to the creation of copyright.
No, when the printing press came along, government needed someway to censor and contracted it out to private publishers who censored in return for a monopoly. With the enlightenment censorship went away (at least partially) and the publishers lobbied for a law to entrench their monopoly, argueing even then that "it was for the artist" while ripping off the artist. The compromise was a limited monoploly for a limited time to advance learning with the works going into the public domain after that limited time. They also had to register and give a copy to one of the 2 main universities of the time.
The idea of yours that sharing didn't happen is wrong as people naturally share abundant goods.
I had a USR Robotics USB Modem that worked as well as my Sportster until a power failure took it out. Now I have a computer with a serial port and an old Sportster.
I'll note that I once picked up an AOL branded external modem, total piece of crap and would quicky train down to about a 0kb connection. Was lucky to load one page. So in rural areas it is worth getting a good modem.
Squid helps less and less as more sites go to HTTPS. I do have it locally installed but my son now refuses to use it and he's of age now so I can't really force him.
I don't know, but with a 26.4 connection it's pretty shitty. Too many sites take it for granted that everyone has a highspeed connection and load lots of graphics, videos and other crap. Noscript really helps though.
Not really. Don't know about Mac or Win8 but do know about Win7 and the last couple of Ubuntu releases (it's hard to acquire Linux on dial-up). /dev/modem or whatever you have to do this year as /dev seems to be in a permanent state of flux.
Win7 does handle the USB modem fine but the sharing your connection has changed to sharing your connection with another Win7 computer. No more basic NAT like XP had.
Ubuntu doesn't even ship with a dial-up client so ideally you have to figure out what deb you need and figure out how to download it. If your knowledgeable and know how to set up PAP secrets, the chat stuff and how to add users to the dial-up group you should be able to dial in with pon. Unluckily it seems quite broken in recent releases, last time it would dial in during boot and have a good connection which could be shared but I could never re-dial in. Of course you also have to figure out what device that USB modem is and how to symlink it to
My theory with Linux is that all the developers have a good connection so dial-up is never really tested anymore.
Here my dial-up serves ~4 devices so NAT is important and it is nice to auto-dial and hang up after a few minutes of inactivity.
Here where I live, there are mountains and trees blocking the view of the satellites and they're not my trees to cut down. As I'm 40 miles from the big city there is no cell service either. Phone lines are shit as well, 26.4 connection.
Don't know about Australia but in Canada businesses get refunded any GST they pay so it's a consumer tax.
Yea, every animal species is different with even close relatives such as the various canine species varying quite a bit in their social interactions. There are some generalizations that can be made such as most all mammal mothers are protective of their young but generally you can't model our politics very much on other species. At that there is an amazing amount of variation in human societies, especially the primitive ones that developed alone.
Here in Canada there are lots of burger flippers that are brought in on our equivalent of H1Bs (foreign worker program).
They'll work for minimum wage in a city where a really cheap house is $1.3 million, and once they've been abused by being employed at a different location then their visa allows, they can really be abused.
Sadly a lot of employers are petty tyrants and it is easier to tyrannize people with no other choices.
Can you expand on that? What alternate driver of instinct do you have? Why does most every mammal care for its young? Why do you eat? Why are some people, often the opposite sex, so attractive?
A leftist libertarian. I mostly agree with you but from experience the danger of having a commune, even a small one, is a psychopath showing up and trying to run things. Psychopaths being manipulative bastards who don't shy away from violence and are often armed are hard to deal with. You can actually find yourself considering murder but often you're left with one option, leaving.
This seems to have happened to Russia where it went from the workers owning the means of production to an elite running things and willing to do horrible things to run things the way they wanted. Lots of other examples as well.
On the other hand I know a mill where the workers bought it when the owners decided to give up. It worked pretty well but eventually failed due to problems with trading partners (America and China) fucking the industry to protect their domestic industries.
Every animal species is different, with birds quite a bit different from mammals. In some ways the closest to humans is the grey wolf along with its close relative the domestic dog and a couple of other canine species.
Co-operative hunting including the understanding that any member of the pack that gets injured will be cared for, food sharing, co-operative child rearing and a strong situational awareness of other members of the pack (which really helps when hunting big game) as examples.
People, either consciously or not, share when they think they will get a return, which could be anything from "a good feeling" to a favor that can now be asked for because they shared something.
That's how instincts work, animals, including humans, do stuff because it feels good. The bird flies south because it feels good, the mother looks after the infant because it feels good, the grey wolf shares with its pack because it feels good.
The big difference with humans is we have a large fore brain which we use to rationalize our instincts and to a degree we can over ride our instincts. Having large brains also makes us easier to condition to certain behaviour