Actually Watcom has been reborn as open sourced openwatcom. Current plans include a Linux version and fixes to work with configure scripts. See openwatcom.org.
Watcom, which was one of the best compilers for DOS, OS/2, WIN, and NT as well as partial Netware support is now open source (openwatcom.org) and Linux support is being added. Still a good compiler but showing its age somewhat. Dave
I'm using a trunk build built a couple of days ago. Reports as version 0.9.1+. I don't see the bug or wide boxes. At that its been awhile since I've seen either bug and only saw the extra wide boxes for a short while Dave
Yes I guess that could be a factor. I tried researching what the American election costs but all I found were dead links. Guess don't want the terrorists to find out From http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?section=faq&do cument=faqelec&lang=e&textonly=false How much did the 2000 general election cost?
The cost of the 2000 general election, including the partial reimbursement of election expenses to eligible candidates and political parties and the maintenance of the National Register of Electors since the 1997 general election, was $200.6 million.
How much did the 1997 general election cost?
The cost of the 1997 general election was $129.2 million. The cost of the final door-to-door enumeration, which was conducted outside the 1997 general election period, was $71.4 million. The combined cost of the enumeration and election were $200.6 million.
So a lot of these costs are fixed no matter if one big election or several smaller. eg only need one voter list. Here also most of the elections officers are volunteers, polling places are civic buildings, eg schools and so on. I really can't see multiple elections costing that much more especially if it means having an informed electorate. Of course that may be the last thing the politicians want
The big difference is that here in Canada there is maybe 6 choices on the ballot. Whereas in the States there may be upto a hundred choices. Everything from President down to dog catcher is voted on at the same time. Personally I think this is a huge flaw as it is pretty hard to be informed about every choice and people likely just vote by party. The obvious fix is to split up the elections so fewer choices and more informed electorate
I just built a piece of GPLed software and linked it against XFree86 ver 4. Your saying I'm antisocial if I distribute this instead of relinking against XFree86 ver 3.3.6?
No, i'm not sure of the legal term but I call it getting a ticket. Summary conviction (charge) means you get less choices in court, eg no jury and maximum sentence is smaller, usually 2 years less a day max. Lots of criminal code laws can procede by summary or indictment. Indictment is usually more serious and can have bigger punishments.
OS/2 isn't the only OS that supports virtual 8086s, either -- Linux/DOSEmu and Windows back to 3.0 (in 386 Enhanced Mode) do, too. Though on Windows you're limited to what OS/2 called Virtual DOS Machines, while Linux supports Virtual Machine Boots.
Actually OS/2s virtual machine support is good enough to boot any version of DOS and anything else that will run on a 8086. Minix runs fine here on OS/2.
The reason no company offers that OS geared for virtualization is hardware support. Any host OS has to support all the hardware that it runs on, and who has the largest support base? Windows, then Linux. No one else is in the ballpark (except maybe Apple, but that's for Apple hardware only...).
Actually OS/2 still has pretty good hardware support. I could take my HD and stick it in most any new middle priced computer and everything would work. Wouldn't even need to reboot due to detecting new hardware depending on the audio driver(audio is the weak point, only a few chips are supported and even though the audio is open source the loader is closed). Of course it doesn't support much Windows hardware such as crippled winmodems, winprinters, etc. Lots of Linux hardware support gets ported too so basically if Linux supports it so can (and often does) OS/2.
That's odd. Admittedly, it's not unheard of (UML requires a kernel module, but then it's not a hardware emulator, either). But you'd think if it runs with host OSes of FreeBSD, Linux, Windows, and OS/2, it wouldn't rely on anything needing a kernel module; I have no idea how one gains that functionality in Windows or OS/2 (though perhaps this is easier than I am guessing).
Don't know about windows but OS/2 would most likely just use a device driver (oh no, a reboot) as thats the only way to get ring 0 access
VMware doesn't run OS/2 or run on OS/2, thats a marked advantage if you are a bank with critical OS/2 software that doesn't want to run on your newest machine
I won't consider it serious competition for Bochs and VirtualPC until it can run on one architecture, emulate a different architecture and run an OS for the emulated architecture.
It is not really meant to compete with Bochs and VirtualPC. It is meant to ease the migration of 10 Million OS/2 machines to something else, this week I think its Linux. IBM really wants businesses to get of OS/2 and doesn't want to spend much to support it. IBMs future plans for OS/2 involve mostly supporting it on a virtual machine so they don't have to write too many device drivers. Bochs doesn't run OS/2 and MS bought out VirtualPC so VirtualPC for OS/2 was pulled by MS.
Personally, I think they should be able to intregrate whatever features into their operating system whenever they want.
The problem as I see it isn't integrating components. Its using those components to further their monopoly. I don't run Windows so I'm cut of off all WMA audio streams etc. I don't run Windows so there are all these web pages I goto and they're broken here. What MS is doing is trying to force me to pay them for Windows and make me use it instead of meeting a need for their users. If they included a media player and published the specs for WMA to allow anyone to write their own WMA player I'd be happy.
And if prisons are your business it is much better to fill them up with computer nerds, pot smokers, and other non-violent types. Who wants a bunch of violent prisoners in their prison?
I know one thing, their web site brought Mozilla to its knees here. CPU peaked for about 20 secs each time I tried to scroll. I know my 300 AMD is getting a bit long in the tooth but not many sites do this. Besides XFree86 4.4 is running fine here on OS/2
Again, I say: "How do you know that your ballots are counted correctly?" How do you know that you (and everyone else) filled out the correct ballot (the actual problem here)? How do you know that the way you (and everyone else) filled out the ballot is the way that the ballot is meant to be filled out (the problem in Florida)?
As another poster mentioned the ballot is pretty simple. Also you are free to watch the vote counting and people from all parties do watch.
Well laws can be passed to make your old libvorbis illegal. Think about the next generation DMCA. Remember when having 128 bit encryption was considered the same as having a weapon. In todays climate that weapon might be helping terrorists so the government can do anything to stop you. And don't forget other countries are always trying to catch upto America the Free.
What about those that encode their own music... as in music they made. That is the point of a lot of this crap. Get rid of competition. You don't think the MPAA, RIAA, etc want you competing with them do you. Dave
Sure they have. They used to change DLLs regulary to make sure Win programs didn't run anywhere else which broke some programs and they seem to need new upgraded device drivers every couple of versions
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Actually Watcom has been reborn as open sourced openwatcom. Current plans include a Linux version and fixes to work with configure scripts. See openwatcom.org.
Watcom, which was one of the best compilers for DOS, OS/2, WIN, and NT as well as partial Netware support is now open source (openwatcom.org) and Linux support is being added.
Still a good compiler but showing its age somewhat.
Dave
I'm using a trunk build built a couple of days ago. Reports as version 0.9.1+. I don't see the bug or wide boxes.
At that its been awhile since I've seen either bug and only saw the extra wide boxes for a short while
Dave
Yes I guess that could be a factor. I tried researching what the American election costs but all I found were dead links. Guess don't want the terrorists to find outo cument=faqelec&lang=e&textonly=false
From http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?section=faq&d
How much did the 2000 general election cost?
The cost of the 2000 general election, including the partial reimbursement of election expenses to eligible candidates and political parties and the maintenance of the National Register of Electors since the 1997 general election, was $200.6 million.
How much did the 1997 general election cost?
The cost of the 1997 general election was $129.2 million. The cost of the final door-to-door enumeration, which was conducted outside the 1997 general election period, was $71.4 million. The combined cost of the enumeration and election were $200.6 million.
So a lot of these costs are fixed no matter if one big election or several smaller. eg only need one voter list.
Here also most of the elections officers are volunteers, polling places are civic buildings, eg schools and so on. I really can't see multiple elections costing that much more especially if it means having an informed electorate. Of course that may be the last thing the politicians want
The big difference is that here in Canada there is maybe 6 choices on the ballot.
Whereas in the States there may be upto a hundred choices. Everything from President down to dog catcher is voted on at the same time.
Personally I think this is a huge flaw as it is pretty hard to be informed about every choice and people likely just vote by party.
The obvious fix is to split up the elections so fewer choices and more informed electorate
ksh
I just built a piece of GPLed software and linked it against XFree86 ver 4. Your saying I'm antisocial if I distribute this instead of relinking against XFree86 ver 3.3.6?
Yea, and I know a lot of people that lost their jobs when their factories moved to the USA.
Besides it was Reagan who initialized Free Trade in NA.
Some of us use other OSes, eg I'm still happily running OS/2
No, i'm not sure of the legal term but I call it getting a ticket.
Summary conviction (charge) means you get less choices in court, eg no jury and maximum sentence is smaller, usually 2 years less a day max.
Lots of criminal code laws can procede by summary or indictment. Indictment is usually more serious and can have bigger punishments.
Yea I got the same (no popups) using privoxy as an add blocker and Mozilla 1.6. Seems you need a couple of block up blockers nowadays
OS/2 isn't the only OS that supports virtual 8086s, either -- Linux/DOSEmu and Windows back to 3.0 (in 386 Enhanced Mode) do, too. Though on Windows you're limited to what OS/2 called Virtual DOS Machines, while Linux supports Virtual Machine Boots.
Actually OS/2s virtual machine support is good enough to boot any version of DOS and anything else that will run on a 8086. Minix runs fine here on OS/2.
The reason no company offers that OS geared for virtualization is hardware support. Any host OS has to support all the hardware that it runs on, and who has the largest support base? Windows, then Linux. No one else is in the ballpark (except maybe Apple, but that's for Apple hardware only...).
Actually OS/2 still has pretty good hardware support. I could take my HD and stick it in most any new middle priced computer and everything would work. Wouldn't even need to reboot due to detecting new hardware depending on the audio driver(audio is the weak point, only a few chips are supported and even though the audio is open source the loader is closed). Of course it doesn't support much Windows hardware such as crippled winmodems, winprinters, etc.
Lots of Linux hardware support gets ported too so basically if Linux supports it so can (and often does) OS/2.
That's odd. Admittedly, it's not unheard of (UML requires a kernel module, but then it's not a hardware emulator, either). But you'd think if it runs with host OSes of FreeBSD, Linux, Windows, and OS/2, it wouldn't rely on anything needing a kernel module; I have no idea how one gains that functionality in Windows or OS/2 (though perhaps this is easier than I am guessing).
Don't know about windows but OS/2 would most likely just use a device driver (oh no, a reboot) as thats the only way to get ring 0 access
VMware doesn't run OS/2 or run on OS/2, thats a marked advantage if you are a bank with critical OS/2 software that doesn't want to run on your newest machine
There are DLs avaiable at twoOStwo.org. Also a link for a key good for a 3 month evaluation.
I won't consider it serious competition for Bochs and VirtualPC until it can run on one architecture, emulate a different architecture and run an OS for the emulated architecture.
It is not really meant to compete with Bochs and VirtualPC. It is meant to ease the migration of 10 Million OS/2 machines to something else, this week I think its Linux. IBM really wants businesses to get of OS/2 and doesn't want to spend much to support it.
IBMs future plans for OS/2 involve mostly supporting it on a virtual machine so they don't have to write too many device drivers.
Bochs doesn't run OS/2 and MS bought out VirtualPC
so VirtualPC for OS/2 was pulled by MS.
Personally, I think they should be able to intregrate whatever features into their operating system whenever they want.
The problem as I see it isn't integrating components. Its using those components to further their monopoly. I don't run Windows so I'm cut of off all WMA audio streams etc. I don't run Windows so there are all these web pages I goto and they're broken here. What MS is doing is trying to force me to pay them for Windows and make me use it instead of meeting a need for their users.
If they included a media player and published the specs for WMA to allow anyone to write their own WMA player I'd be happy.
The difference is that a lot of crimes committed with firearms are impulsive eg someone gets mad and shoots someone.
And if prisons are your business it is much better to fill them up with computer nerds, pot smokers, and other non-violent types. Who wants a bunch of violent prisoners in their prison?
I know one thing, their web site brought Mozilla to its knees here. CPU peaked for about 20 secs each time I tried to scroll. I know my 300 AMD is getting a bit long in the tooth but not many sites do this. Besides XFree86 4.4 is running fine here on OS/2
Again, I say: "How do you know that your ballots are counted correctly?" How do you know that you (and everyone else) filled out the correct ballot (the actual problem here)? How do you know that the way you (and everyone else) filled out the ballot is the way that the ballot is meant to be filled out (the problem in Florida)?
As another poster mentioned the ballot is pretty simple. Also you are free to watch the vote counting and people from all parties do watch.
Well laws can be passed to make your old libvorbis illegal. Think about the next generation DMCA. Remember when having 128 bit encryption was considered the same as having a weapon. In todays climate that weapon might be helping terrorists so the government can do anything to stop you.
And don't forget other countries are always trying to catch upto America the Free.
What about those that encode their own music... as in music they made.
That is the point of a lot of this crap. Get rid of competition. You don't think the MPAA, RIAA, etc want you competing with them do you.
Dave
Sure they have. They used to change DLLs regulary to make sure Win programs didn't run anywhere else which broke some programs and they seem to need new upgraded device drivers every couple of versions