DVDs do not have a license. Check it out the next time you see one. (And the FBI warning is not a license. That's just a little information blurb about the law, and isn't legally needed, it just reduces the ability to claim 'I didn't know I couldn't copy it.) DVDs fall completely under normal copyright laws.
Oh, and a word about the GPL. Other software license, so call 'shrink-wrap' or 'click-though' are a license to use. This means you do not, in fact, own your copy of the software, merely license it. This gives them a nice end run against all sort of copyright rights given to owners of copyrighted works.
On the other hand, the GPL simply grants you extra rights, more then copyright law allows. It grants you a limited right to copy the software, and a right to modify it, neither of which exist under copyright law. (Actually, both are specifically banned.) All not accepting the GPL does is set to back to default copyright laws, and you can still use the copy of the software you own all you want, whereas if you don't accept a EULA theortically you don't have the right to use the software at all. (Of course, then you have the option of just getting a minor to 'accept' for you, or mailing it to someone in a country where shinkwraps aren't legal, or many other way to keep from 'accepting' the license, and you get it under normal copyright laws.)
This is what really confused me about people questioning the GPL's legality. Now, there might be loopholes, granted, where peole can give out GPL stuff without giving out sources mods, but the license itself has to be legal, and any company arguing otherwise would merely end up proving then have no right to distribute any GPL stuff at all, under any circumstances, per normal copyright laws.
This is why we can be pro GPL and anti other things. The DVD thing isn't even a license at all, and EULA's are setting much more restrictive rules then normal copyright law, but the GPL is providing moe freedom. Granted, it doesn't provide as much freedom as LGPL, or BSD, or public domain, in order, but it's still more then copyright law is supposed to force. (But apparently you can just 'license' stuff to get around that. I can't wait till they start licensing cars to get around safety laws, or licensing books to keep you form reselling them.)
Except for the fact that DVDs don't have an EULA. All restrictions on them are under normal copyright law, just like a book or a VHS tape, and the DMCA, which only applies to digital stuff. So they do have to be constitutional.
How the hell does this qualify as 'improvement'? It's much worse!
The problem isn't that the heirarchy exists, it's that it's too flat. People fight over blah.com. Removing.com doesn't help anything, except it would stop the inanity of getting.net and.org for all.coms. But that's not anywhere near the main problem in DNS. The main problem is that Michael Blah, Blah Computers, Blah Moter Company, and Blah's Ole Time Family store all want blah.com.
The obvious way to fix this is to make a lot more gTLDs. Something like michael.blah.name (actually, I think this idea is stupid. People shouldn't be able to get domain names off their name. Way too many people have the same name.), blah.computers, blah.cars, blah.general.store, would be best. Somewhere out there, the trademark office *has* a list of trademarks for all catagories. Let's, right now, make a.trade, and put the catagory in front of it, and whenever you get a trademark, you can pay 10 dollars more a year and get a domain name too.
That completely removes all confusion. I want to reach Apple Computers, I type 'apple.computer.us.trade'. I knew Apple Computers is trademarked in the computer catagory, and no other computer company can call itself 'Apple', or 'Apple Computers', or 'Apple Computing' or anything having to do with apples.
I think it would also be a good idea for licensed businesses to get a.license or something. You know, if they're at franksroofing.build.ga.us.license, then, hey, they have a building license in Georgia. And so on and so forth. There are plenty of legal identifiers businesses have, and we should let them use them in a regulated system on the net.
Then, make a prefix for purely personal use, and one for informal organizations that aren't actually registed, and maybe a seperate one for pages put up my individuals that are intented to be a general resource (as opposed to those 'homepages' that people have, which go in the first). And completely and totally remove.com,.org, and.net. They have been completely screwed up, and just need to be trashed.
Yeah, because, as everyone knows, they support hate speech rule son college
campuses, fights unpopular
name changes, and support
drug testing, I can see how they only support popular causes.
Oh, wait, I'm sorry, they apparently were on the opposite side in all those cases, nevermind.
Um. hurting the people who proccess the letters does hurt the company that sends them. It's analogous to blocking open relays on the net, with the added moral arguement that while they probably did it accidently, the junk mailers got paid to annoy us. Or, technically, they work for a company that annoys us, and we have the right to annoy them back at work and decrease their productivity and perhaps even their job satisfaction until said company changes.
There are plenty of low wage jobs around, I have no sympathy for peole who pick one that annoys people. They should swing by their local Walmart or McDonalds. They might not get any respect, but at least they don't annoy people.
And, no, I don't really care if they technically work for a different company then the one who sent the junk. Usually, that means they work for a professional junk mail company, which is even worse. But even if they don't, they will still pass the cost on to the company that's supposed to get the benefits, and that ordered the junk mail in the first place.
I'm rather sick of large corperations assuming they have the right to pester me to buy their product. I'll buy their damn product if I want to, and only then.
Oh, and a second thought...has anyone heard about the idea of charging people to send you email, and giving them back the money if you like it...well, that's exactly what this is. You're making them pay if you don't like the mail!
Oh, and my favorite suggestion is a combination of gritter, in case humans open it, and small strips of metal to screw up the machines. On second though, I heard that some machines have metal detectors (look, we're already costing them money), so how about sending toothpicks and glitter instead. Nice and cheap, yet will waste time and possible destroy machines.
-David T. C.
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Um, I don't know much about quantum entanglement, although from what I do know it sounds cool, but the Stargate uses controlled wormholes, which aren't quantum effects on any level, merely distortions of space/time.
Now, there are actually teleportation devices on the Stargate series, like the Go'uld (sp?) ring teleporter thing and the Asgard's beam teleporter, which could use quantum effects, but the Stargate itself just manages to create a wormhole at both ends (That's one wormhole, with two ends.)...witness the episode where the Stargate at the other end fell into a black hole, thus causing the non-local end of the wormhole to fall into the black hole. (Which is not really a good idea, but it was fairly funny to see them repelling down the floor towards it.)
-David T. C.
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Yes, and you can also get 'zero point enegery' from it, which is basically infinite energy free of charge. On the other hand, you might literally 'pop' the space-time bubble of the universe, like someone inside a balloon tunneling out of it to the low pressure outside. If you did that, the entire universe would be destroyed as the faster-then-light repressurization wave swept over it. So it's not really that great an idea.;)
None at all. The human body wastes tons of energy. About the only think the human body outputs is some kinetic energy, an insanely small amount of electical power, and heat.
It's much smarter just to burn the food you would have fed the human.
I heard in some places they were actually getting paid back by putting so much into the grid. Is this inaccurate?
Huh? Did you just say that in some places solar panels were breaking even and perhaps even making money? Wow! Who would have expected that from a power source?!?!
Until you remember the fact that all other power sources are expected to break even.;)
The postal service in turn pass it on to *every* us citizen, not just isp users(as was the argued case with junk email), in the form of increased taxes and increased postage(stamp) costs.
Wrong. The USPS gets no tax money at all. And the reason fedex and ups doen't do it is that it's illegal for them to do so.
Now, first class mail postage does suppliment third class...but who the hell required you to send mail first class? Third class mail is just as likely to get there, and something like 90% of the time it gets there the same day, with the other 10% of the time being delayed a day or two. Don't fall for the scam, send mail third class, and force the post office to stop subsiding junk mail with normal mail. If everyone used third class, the post office would have to raise third class rates.
Hrm...so you convert all the images from the drone, using insanely computational means, in real time, into polygons...just to convert them back. We're talking insane amount of processing here. There's a reason why it's so hard to teach computers to see.
Perhaps, slightly less completely and utterly insanely, they could simple put up a video monitor and broadcast a live video feed? You know...like we do?
But it isn't illegal to break into something if you have been told to do so by the authorities of that thing. It's fairly obvious a teacher doesn't have the authority to let people break into a school. It isn't that obvious a CS teacher doesn't have authority to allow students to break in to a computer.
So, as a better analogy, let's make it be the principal who tells a student there's a reward for breaking into the school. As far as I know, a principle doesn't in fact have that authority, the school board does, but students don't know that.
May I also note, from what I remember of my handbook, you have to comply with orders of the teachers and staff. If a teacher says for you to do something, and you don't know it's illegal, you better damn well do it. Even if it is illegal. There isn't any other way that could work. It's just like the miltary, you have to obey any 'lawful order'.
Um...breaking into a computer with permission isn't in fact 'wrong', and it's not even illegal. There are hundreds of companies that can be hired to do things exactly like that.
From WordNet:
censor
n : a person who is authorized to read publications or correspondence or to watch theatrical performances and suppress in whole or in part anything considered obscene or politically unacceptable
v 1: forbid the public distribution of; as of movies or newspapers [syn: {ban}]
2: subject to political, religious, or moral censorship; "This magazine is censored by the government"
censorship
n 1: counterintelligence achieved by banning or deleting any information of value to the enemy [syn: {censoring}, {security review}]
2: deleting parts of publications or correspondence or theatrical performances [syn: {censoring}]
If we assume, by tacking '-ware' onto a word, we mean 'a program does the job of that word', and we likewise assume that we can extend 'publications or correspondence' then we find that what we're refering to as 'censorware' does, in fact, perform like a person does under noun defination 1 under censor and makes material be 'verb defination 2 under censor'ed.
Nobody is forcing anybody to install filters. The mandate is that if you accept government money to build your computer network, you play by the government's rules, which include filters. If some outfit wants an uncensored internet, then they don't have to take government money for it. It's that simple.
Oh, like public parks? No one is forcing protestors to use public parks. If you use a public park to protest, then you must play by the government's rules and only protest what they want you to protest.
Hey, pay attention. All government money is our money. The mere fact an organization gets our money from the government doesn't allow the government to make that organization follow rules in violate the constitution. If they could do that, all they would have to do is tax us all 100% and require us to testify against ourself if we every got charged with a crime to get any money back.
I personally did quite well in school without access to pornography...
How about that biology textbook? How'd you do without that? What about health? Oh, wait. Information wasn't banned from your school cause it had the word 'sex' in it.
Well, what about your banned history book? Wait, you meant that wasn't classified as 'hate speech' because it mentioned Malcolm X and the 'Black Power' movement, or had an Abraham Lincoln reference to to 'negros'?
Yes, they will use the anti-dog-fucking magic wand to stop it. Or, they could use some random company that sues people who try to find out what sites are blocked, because they block a hell of a lot more then porn. Oh, and, they don't block anywhere near all the porn either.
it might be changed by the time the cracker broke it, or at least the cracker would be locked out eventually.
This is incredably stupid logic. What hacker who broke in wouldn't install a backdoor? And to brute force a SSH key would take literally three google (2^1024, or about 10^309) attempts at login for 1024 bit key. Any admin who didn't notice that deserves the death penalty for stupidity.
Sadly, it is you who are mistaken. Above.net not only blocks SMTP traffic to and from RBL'd servers, but they drop all traffic to and from RBL'd server. Those addresses are routed to nowhere. For all intents and purposes, those addresses do not exist if you are on above.net. And, if your machine is used for spam, you you don't exist to any servers on there, also.
And the RBL has been putting the addresses of more then just mail servers on their list for a while now. They also put hosting companies who refuse to take down spammer's webpages, and any servers at all run by spammers.
And, BTW, I apporve of this all the way. Stopped the actual spam email is just half the battle, we need to close down the ways that people can contact them also. In fact, we need an 'Internet Death Penalty' for these people, and not only block the spanmmer's spamming acounts, but also block the legit accounts that the spammer doesn't use to spam, and their legit webpages. We need to basically keep them from using the net in any form or fashion. And block anyone willing to provide it to them.
ORB are a bunch of wackos, they run though all IP addresses and see if they find one that either an open relay, or refuses to allow them a connection, then they block it. They have refused all arguements this is an attack, and all arguements that that simply blocking their IP isn't a blockable action.
The MAPS RBL waits for people to forward messages from a spammer, confirm it, and then block it.
They also run the MAPS RSS, which, when people complain about a machine. they, tries to relay a message though it. In no cases do they ever touch or consider a machine unless someone has said that machine is forwarding, and even then they investigate it.
They also run the MAPS DUI, which is simply a list of dial up IPs.
The ORBS people are completely seperate, and completly insane. I'm suprised you managed to get your server unblocked.
So...you're basically saying it should be illegal to block traffic on your own network?
Sorry, but ISPs don't promise you have access to any other computer in existance. They don't even promise you have access to the one at the other end of the phone line. Read the contract again.
Then ask yourself if it's legal for a group of storeowners to hire someone to stand guard during the day and remove known criminals from their property. Why, I believe it is. It's also legal for a mall to do that without informing the stores inside it...and you know why? Because it's their mall, and it's not specifically listed in the contract they have with the stores that they can't do that.
Likewise, it's the ISP's networks, and they can do whatever damned thing they want with them they haven't agreed not to do.)
It would even be 100% legal for MSN, as an example, to block all access to Netscape's site. You know why? Cause nothing in the contract says otherwise. (Technically, they could get sued for restraint of trade, as could an ISP if they blocked a competitier simply because they were one. But that's not the case here.)
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Oh, and a word about the GPL. Other software license, so call 'shrink-wrap' or 'click-though' are a license to use. This means you do not, in fact, own your copy of the software, merely license it. This gives them a nice end run against all sort of copyright rights given to owners of copyrighted works.
On the other hand, the GPL simply grants you extra rights, more then copyright law allows. It grants you a limited right to copy the software, and a right to modify it, neither of which exist under copyright law. (Actually, both are specifically banned.) All not accepting the GPL does is set to back to default copyright laws, and you can still use the copy of the software you own all you want, whereas if you don't accept a EULA theortically you don't have the right to use the software at all. (Of course, then you have the option of just getting a minor to 'accept' for you, or mailing it to someone in a country where shinkwraps aren't legal, or many other way to keep from 'accepting' the license, and you get it under normal copyright laws.)
This is what really confused me about people questioning the GPL's legality. Now, there might be loopholes, granted, where peole can give out GPL stuff without giving out sources mods, but the license itself has to be legal, and any company arguing otherwise would merely end up proving then have no right to distribute any GPL stuff at all, under any circumstances, per normal copyright laws.
This is why we can be pro GPL and anti other things. The DVD thing isn't even a license at all, and EULA's are setting much more restrictive rules then normal copyright law, but the GPL is providing moe freedom. Granted, it doesn't provide as much freedom as LGPL, or BSD, or public domain, in order, but it's still more then copyright law is supposed to force. (But apparently you can just 'license' stuff to get around that. I can't wait till they start licensing cars to get around safety laws, or licensing books to keep you form reselling them.)
-David T. C.
Except for the fact that DVDs don't have an EULA. All restrictions on them are under normal copyright law, just like a book or a VHS tape, and the DMCA, which only applies to digital stuff. So they do have to be constitutional.
-David T. C.
The problem isn't that the heirarchy exists, it's that it's too flat. People fight over blah.com. Removing .com doesn't help anything, except it would stop the inanity of getting .net and .org for all .coms. But that's not anywhere near the main problem in DNS. The main problem is that Michael Blah, Blah Computers, Blah Moter Company, and Blah's Ole Time Family store all want blah.com.
The obvious way to fix this is to make a lot more gTLDs. Something like michael.blah.name (actually, I think this idea is stupid. People shouldn't be able to get domain names off their name. Way too many people have the same name.), blah.computers, blah.cars, blah.general.store, would be best. Somewhere out there, the trademark office *has* a list of trademarks for all catagories. Let's, right now, make a .trade, and put the catagory in front of it, and whenever you get a trademark, you can pay 10 dollars more a year and get a domain name too.
That completely removes all confusion. I want to reach Apple Computers, I type 'apple.computer.us.trade'. I knew Apple Computers is trademarked in the computer catagory, and no other computer company can call itself 'Apple', or 'Apple Computers', or 'Apple Computing' or anything having to do with apples.
I think it would also be a good idea for licensed businesses to get a .license or something. You know, if they're at franksroofing.build.ga.us.license, then, hey, they have a building license in Georgia. And so on and so forth. There are plenty of legal identifiers businesses have, and we should let them use them in a regulated system on the net.
Then, make a prefix for purely personal use, and one for informal organizations that aren't actually registed, and maybe a seperate one for pages put up my individuals that are intented to be a general resource (as opposed to those 'homepages' that people have, which go in the first). And completely and totally remove .com, .org, and .net. They have been completely screwed up, and just need to be trashed.
-David T. C.
Oh, wait, I'm sorry, they apparently were on the opposite side in all those cases, nevermind.
-David T. C.
There are plenty of low wage jobs around, I have no sympathy for peole who pick one that annoys people. They should swing by their local Walmart or McDonalds. They might not get any respect, but at least they don't annoy people.
And, no, I don't really care if they technically work for a different company then the one who sent the junk. Usually, that means they work for a professional junk mail company, which is even worse. But even if they don't, they will still pass the cost on to the company that's supposed to get the benefits, and that ordered the junk mail in the first place.
I'm rather sick of large corperations assuming they have the right to pester me to buy their product. I'll buy their damn product if I want to, and only then.
Oh, and a second thought...has anyone heard about the idea of charging people to send you email, and giving them back the money if you like it...well, that's exactly what this is. You're making them pay if you don't like the mail!
Oh, and my favorite suggestion is a combination of gritter, in case humans open it, and small strips of metal to screw up the machines. On second though, I heard that some machines have metal detectors (look, we're already costing them money), so how about sending toothpicks and glitter instead. Nice and cheap, yet will waste time and possible destroy machines.
-David T. C.
Now, there are actually teleportation devices on the Stargate series, like the Go'uld (sp?) ring teleporter thing and the Asgard's beam teleporter, which could use quantum effects, but the Stargate itself just manages to create a wormhole at both ends (That's one wormhole, with two ends.) ...witness the episode where the Stargate at the other end fell into a black hole, thus causing the non-local end of the wormhole to fall into the black hole. (Which is not really a good idea, but it was fairly funny to see them repelling down the floor towards it.)
-David T. C.
Yes, and you can also get 'zero point enegery' from it, which is basically infinite energy free of charge. On the other hand, you might literally 'pop' the space-time bubble of the universe, like someone inside a balloon tunneling out of it to the low pressure outside. If you did that, the entire universe would be destroyed as the faster-then-light repressurization wave swept over it. So it's not really that great an idea. ;)
-David T. C.
It's much smarter just to burn the food you would have fed the human.
-David T. C.
Huh? Did you just say that in some places solar panels were breaking even and perhaps even making money? Wow! Who would have expected that from a power source?!?!
Until you remember the fact that all other power sources are expected to break even. ;)
-David T. C.
Actually, only involantary servitude is unconstitutional.
-David T. C.
Yeah, but catching them without cutting your fingers off, that's the hard part. ;)
-David T. C.
Wrong. The USPS gets no tax money at all. And the reason fedex and ups doen't do it is that it's illegal for them to do so.
Now, first class mail postage does suppliment third class...but who the hell required you to send mail first class? Third class mail is just as likely to get there, and something like 90% of the time it gets there the same day, with the other 10% of the time being delayed a day or two. Don't fall for the scam, send mail third class, and force the post office to stop subsiding junk mail with normal mail. If everyone used third class, the post office would have to raise third class rates.
-David T. C.
Or reading your lips? ;)
-David T. C.
Perhaps, slightly less completely and utterly insanely, they could simple put up a video monitor and broadcast a live video feed? You know...like we do?
-David T. C.
So, as a better analogy, let's make it be the principal who tells a student there's a reward for breaking into the school. As far as I know, a principle doesn't in fact have that authority, the school board does, but students don't know that.
May I also note, from what I remember of my handbook, you have to comply with orders of the teachers and staff. If a teacher says for you to do something, and you don't know it's illegal, you better damn well do it. Even if it is illegal. There isn't any other way that could work. It's just like the miltary, you have to obey any 'lawful order'.
-David T. C.
There's a slight difference between doing this with permission, and without.
-David T. C.
Um...breaking into a computer with permission isn't in fact 'wrong', and it's not even illegal. There are hundreds of companies that can be hired to do things exactly like that.
-David T. C.
censor
n : a person who is authorized to read publications or correspondence or to watch theatrical performances and suppress in whole or in part anything considered obscene or politically unacceptable
v 1: forbid the public distribution of; as of movies or newspapers [syn: {ban}]
2: subject to political, religious, or moral censorship; "This magazine is censored by the government"
censorship
n 1: counterintelligence achieved by banning or deleting any information of value to the enemy [syn: {censoring}, {security review}]
2: deleting parts of publications or correspondence or theatrical performances [syn: {censoring}]
If we assume, by tacking '-ware' onto a word, we mean 'a program does the job of that word', and we likewise assume that we can extend 'publications or correspondence' then we find that what we're refering to as 'censorware' does, in fact, perform like a person does under noun defination 1 under censor and makes material be 'verb defination 2 under censor'ed.
Aka, it acts as a censor, and censors things.
-David T. C.
Oh, like public parks? No one is forcing protestors to use public parks. If you use a public park to protest, then you must play by the government's rules and only protest what they want you to protest.
Hey, pay attention. All government money is our money. The mere fact an organization gets our money from the government doesn't allow the government to make that organization follow rules in violate the constitution. If they could do that, all they would have to do is tax us all 100% and require us to testify against ourself if we every got charged with a crime to get any money back.
I personally did quite well in school without access to pornography...
How about that biology textbook? How'd you do without that? What about health? Oh, wait. Information wasn't banned from your school cause it had the word 'sex' in it.
Well, what about your banned history book? Wait, you meant that wasn't classified as 'hate speech' because it mentioned Malcolm X and the 'Black Power' movement, or had an Abraham Lincoln reference to to 'negros'?
-David T. C.
Yes, they will use the anti-dog-fucking magic wand to stop it. Or, they could use some random company that sues people who try to find out what sites are blocked, because they block a hell of a lot more then porn. Oh, and, they don't block anywhere near all the porn either.
-David T. C.
This is incredably stupid logic. What hacker who broke in wouldn't install a backdoor? And to brute force a SSH key would take literally three google (2^1024, or about 10^309) attempts at login for 1024 bit key. Any admin who didn't notice that deserves the death penalty for stupidity.
-David T. C.
And the RBL has been putting the addresses of more then just mail servers on their list for a while now. They also put hosting companies who refuse to take down spammer's webpages, and any servers at all run by spammers.
And, BTW, I apporve of this all the way. Stopped the actual spam email is just half the battle, we need to close down the ways that people can contact them also. In fact, we need an 'Internet Death Penalty' for these people, and not only block the spanmmer's spamming acounts, but also block the legit accounts that the spammer doesn't use to spam, and their legit webpages. We need to basically keep them from using the net in any form or fashion. And block anyone willing to provide it to them.
-David T. C.
ORB are a bunch of wackos, they run though all IP addresses and see if they find one that either an open relay, or refuses to allow them a connection, then they block it. They have refused all arguements this is an attack, and all arguements that that simply blocking their IP isn't a blockable action.
The MAPS RBL waits for people to forward messages from a spammer, confirm it, and then block it.
They also run the MAPS RSS, which, when people complain about a machine. they, tries to relay a message though it. In no cases do they ever touch or consider a machine unless someone has said that machine is forwarding, and even then they investigate it.
They also run the MAPS DUI, which is simply a list of dial up IPs.
The ORBS people are completely seperate, and completly insane. I'm suprised you managed to get your server unblocked.
-David T. C.
I am now offically scared by the moderators.
-David T. C.
Sorry, but ISPs don't promise you have access to any other computer in existance. They don't even promise you have access to the one at the other end of the phone line. Read the contract again.
Then ask yourself if it's legal for a group of storeowners to hire someone to stand guard during the day and remove known criminals from their property. Why, I believe it is. It's also legal for a mall to do that without informing the stores inside it...and you know why? Because it's their mall, and it's not specifically listed in the contract they have with the stores that they can't do that.
Likewise, it's the ISP's networks, and they can do whatever damned thing they want with them they haven't agreed not to do.)
It would even be 100% legal for MSN, as an example, to block all access to Netscape's site. You know why? Cause nothing in the contract says otherwise. (Technically, they could get sued for restraint of trade, as could an ISP if they blocked a competitier simply because they were one. But that's not the case here.)
-David T. C.