Unfortunately importing a System76 machine is prohibitively expensive. I do need to build my own box, which is usually not a problem but we happen to be in a 'dark age' of Linux support from motherboard manufacturers right now.
Thank you, I have already tried that. The list is completely out of date and only seems to list full systems. Try searching for Asus or Gigabyte and see that there are no results.
I'm not sure that I follow you. My last Asus motherboard install (about four months ago) did not support Linux due to the NIC reporting as the wrong model, and the right model's driver is not included in the mainline kernel. None of the currently available motherboards make the NIC model available before purchase (after purchase I can simply run lspci) and I know that the issue exists.
Furthermore, I'm asking about which motherboard manufacturers are Linux friendly as all the major manufacturers seem to be hostile. The landscape has been swept from under our feet in the past year (1000 MBit ethernet NIS, UEFI, etc.) and finding Linux-compatible equipment is becoming problematic. Our experience from years past is no longer valid.
The problem isn't so much the chipset, but the onboard peripherals such as the NIC. Yes, I have had quite a hard time with an onboard NIC, and the board didn't even have a PCI slot to put a network card into.
Thank you. Two years ago I build my current desktop, and everything worked fine. This summer I built the mother-in-law's home system and had a terrible time with the 1000 MBit ethernet controller as the driver has not yet been including in the Linux kernel, and to make it worse the board was reporting a different controller whose driver was in the kernel!
I know that there are Gigabyte *77* boards available locally, I will look at those. Thank you very much.
ashkenazi jews are the scum of the earth and need to be brutally exterminated. I would personally like to also be involved in their extermination.
Thank you, that was very insightful. Would you suggest gas showers right as we get off the train, or is it better to work us to death first? Would you suggest shooting rockets at Jewish cities, or getting the bombs right on the bus?
I appreciate your contribution to the conversation.
Thank you, finally an informative answer! I will see from where I might acquire an Intel motherboard locally. I don't think that I've ever come across an Intel board to be honest, so I have a suspicion that they are not sold here.
Agreed. I normally end up with an Asus workstation board with an Intel NIC chipset and it's always worked out fine.. and your point is well taken. I vetted it through Google (and Newegg's customer feedback) before pulling the trigger.
I've never had a problem with an Intel chipset, but as mentioned in the OP I've had issues with the LAN drivers. Also, UEFI is a potential stumbling block.
I've searched google and I've consulted the national LUG. Importing a motherboard is prohibitively expensive, and importing a ready computer is ridiculous. Our national computer stores are mostly stocked with Asus and Gigabyte boards, and both those companies are now Linux-hostile. I would love to find any specific board that is known to work (for now), but also I would like to know which manufactures I could trust for now and in the reasonable future. System76 and Zareason are not motherboard manufacturers.
"I am tasked with building a few Linux machines for a small office." I'm not sure how much your labor is worth but you can buy a built server on the cheap ($599).
Thanks. I should have mentioned that these will be desktop workstations, not servers. The company servers are actually on Amazon Web Services (EC2) and let me take this opportunity to say how happy I am with that decision!
Stop being a troll. You know full and well that Linux is the server of choice for most large sites. Moron.
Actually, these are desktop machines for a small office. Windows is a viable choice, if one can consider the Windows ecosystem viable. At least all the software that we will be using is in fact available for Windows.
I know that you're trolling, but there is definitely a push to just 'install Windows' due to the lack of a viable motherboard. If I were a weaker man, and there are plenty of weaker men, installing Windows would be the 'solution'.
So how much money did this journey save the company?
Submitter here. The three-day affair was my mother-in-law's machine, not a work machine. I agree that just throwing the motherboard in the trash and starting over with a known-good board would have been better, but the fact remains that there are no known-good boards anymore. Hence, this Ask Slashdot question.
If you want speed, the Cherry Blue keyboard switch is ideal. It requires only 55 grams of force to depress (compared to 70-90 grams for a buckling spring) and has a loud click and tactile feedback for when the keypress is detected. You don't need to bottom out the keys, though you can do so if you are used to it. The Blues are a bit loud if you are working near other people, but they are the perfect high-speed typing switch.
You have a high speed in QWERTY I presume, not DVORAK. I therefore recommend that you practice QWERTY for the record. You may have an innate ability to type fast, but you will be throwing away years of practice if you start with a new layout. Also, you will find yourself prone to errors on uncommon words when your muscle memory defaults to QWERTY on slightly-confusing words.
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It's the framework for KDE, which is the excellent, fast UI environment I use on my Linux rigs. Apparently a huge number of other projects either use it currently, or have used it in the past, including a number of well-known projects: Amazon Kindle, Google Earth, Adobe Photoshop, MythTV, Rosegarden, Skype, Virtualbox, VLC media player.
I wonder why they decided to crash both, on the very same day, on the same location. It does not make much sense unless they already docked in orbit or are running some experiment that needs this to happen.
The two probes were orbiting in tandem, Flow (GRAIL B) always followed 20 swconds behind Ebb (GRAIL A). From what I understand this was actually implemented in software, i.e. the humans tell Ebb where to go and Flow follows.
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The problem is not the chipset, but rather the peripherals. Specifically, the NIC. Also, UEFI may be problematic.
Thank you. I haven't come across an Intel branded board, ever, but I will try to shop around and see if they are available.
I have tried. Nobody here knows what Linux is, probably because they will pirate Windows for you right in the store.
Unfortunately importing a System76 machine is prohibitively expensive. I do need to build my own box, which is usually not a problem but we happen to be in a 'dark age' of Linux support from motherboard manufacturers right now.
Submitter here.
Asus P8H61-M LX
Thank you, I have already tried that. The list is completely out of date and only seems to list full systems. Try searching for Asus or Gigabyte and see that there are no results.
Thank you! I will take a look at that board and at other MSI boards.
I'm not sure that I follow you. My last Asus motherboard install (about four months ago) did not support Linux due to the NIC reporting as the wrong model, and the right model's driver is not included in the mainline kernel. None of the currently available motherboards make the NIC model available before purchase (after purchase I can simply run lspci) and I know that the issue exists.
Furthermore, I'm asking about which motherboard manufacturers are Linux friendly as all the major manufacturers seem to be hostile. The landscape has been swept from under our feet in the past year (1000 MBit ethernet NIS, UEFI, etc.) and finding Linux-compatible equipment is becoming problematic. Our experience from years past is no longer valid.
The problem isn't so much the chipset, but the onboard peripherals such as the NIC. Yes, I have had quite a hard time with an onboard NIC, and the board didn't even have a PCI slot to put a network card into.
Thank you. Two years ago I build my current desktop, and everything worked fine. This summer I built the mother-in-law's home system and had a terrible time with the 1000 MBit ethernet controller as the driver has not yet been including in the Linux kernel, and to make it worse the board was reporting a different controller whose driver was in the kernel!
I know that there are Gigabyte *77* boards available locally, I will look at those. Thank you very much.
ashkenazi jews are the scum of the earth and need to be brutally exterminated. I would personally like to also be involved in their extermination.
Thank you, that was very insightful. Would you suggest gas showers right as we get off the train, or is it better to work us to death first? Would you suggest shooting rockets at Jewish cities, or getting the bombs right on the bus?
I appreciate your contribution to the conversation.
Isn't the software suppose to support the hardware?
Isn't the husband supposed to support the wife?
I think that this is a two-way street.
Thank you, finally an informative answer! I will see from where I might acquire an Intel motherboard locally. I don't think that I've ever come across an Intel board to be honest, so I have a suspicion that they are not sold here.
Agreed. I normally end up with an Asus workstation board with an Intel NIC chipset and it's always worked out fine.. and your point is well taken. I vetted it through Google (and Newegg's customer feedback) before pulling the trigger.
I've never had a problem with an Intel chipset, but as mentioned in the OP I've had issues with the LAN drivers. Also, UEFI is a potential stumbling block.
I've searched google and I've consulted the national LUG. Importing a motherboard is prohibitively expensive, and importing a ready computer is ridiculous. Our national computer stores are mostly stocked with Asus and Gigabyte boards, and both those companies are now Linux-hostile. I would love to find any specific board that is known to work (for now), but also I would like to know which manufactures I could trust for now and in the reasonable future. System76 and Zareason are not motherboard manufacturers.
...or just buy from a Linux vendor.
...which don't seem to exist locally. The national LUG couldn't even suggest a local vendor from which to buy Linux-friendly parts.
"I am tasked with building a few Linux machines for a small office." I'm not sure how much your labor is worth but you can buy a built server on the cheap ($599).
http://www.dell.com/ca/business/p/poweredge-t110-2/pd
Thanks. I should have mentioned that these will be desktop workstations, not servers. The company servers are actually on Amazon Web Services (EC2) and let me take this opportunity to say how happy I am with that decision!
Stop being a troll. You know full and well that Linux is the server of choice for most large sites. Moron.
Actually, these are desktop machines for a small office. Windows is a viable choice, if one can consider the Windows ecosystem viable. At least all the software that we will be using is in fact available for Windows.
...or just install a real OS.
I know that you're trolling, but there is definitely a push to just 'install Windows' due to the lack of a viable motherboard. If I were a weaker man, and there are plenty of weaker men, installing Windows would be the 'solution'.
So how much money did this journey save the company?
Submitter here. The three-day affair was my mother-in-law's machine, not a work machine. I agree that just throwing the motherboard in the trash and starting over with a known-good board would have been better, but the fact remains that there are no known-good boards anymore. Hence, this Ask Slashdot question.
Thank you for introducing me to Scrivener! Other than the lack of VIM keybindings this looks perfect. Here are the Linux download links that I found:
Tarball: http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivenerforwindows/Beta/Scrivener-1.5.0.6.tar
Deb: http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivenerforwindows/Beta/scrivener-1.5.0.6-beta.deb
I'm typing on Reds now. They are the lightest Cherry switch, but they have no feedback.
If you want speed, the Cherry Blue keyboard switch is ideal. It requires only 55 grams of force to depress (compared to 70-90 grams for a buckling spring) and has a loud click and tactile feedback for when the keypress is detected. You don't need to bottom out the keys, though you can do so if you are used to it. The Blues are a bit loud if you are working near other people, but they are the perfect high-speed typing switch.
You have a high speed in QWERTY I presume, not DVORAK. I therefore recommend that you practice QWERTY for the record. You may have an innate ability to type fast, but you will be throwing away years of practice if you start with a new layout. Also, you will find yourself prone to errors on uncommon words when your muscle memory defaults to QWERTY on slightly-confusing words.
It's the framework for KDE, which is the excellent, fast UI environment I use on my Linux rigs. Apparently a huge number of other projects either use it currently, or have used it in the past, including a number of well-known projects: Amazon Kindle, Google Earth, Adobe Photoshop, MythTV, Rosegarden, Skype, Virtualbox, VLC media player.
...Anki, Opera, Calibre, Stellarium, Krita...
I wonder why they decided to crash both, on the very same day, on the same location.
It does not make much sense unless they already docked in orbit or are running some experiment that needs this to happen.
The two probes were orbiting in tandem, Flow (GRAIL B) always followed 20 swconds behind Ebb (GRAIL A). From what I understand this was actually implemented in software, i.e. the humans tell Ebb where to go and Flow follows.