It sounds like this MMOG, being continually updated, could be a step towards the game Ender played on his desk in Battle School. So, how long until they start using peoples actions in the game to do psychoanalysis?
For those who don't know, _Ender's Game_ is a great sci-fi book by Orson Scott Card. I've heard they'll be making a movie about it, but I don't know when.
Based on the article, UL will be charging per seat for binaries while leaving the source available to the public and free of charge. I don't see anything wrong with that.
If I want someone to compile something and package it up to save me some headaches, I ought to be willing to pay them to do it for me. If someone else compiles it and packages up the binaries, and since they had to do it for themselves anyway, makes the packaged binaries available to the public with or without charge, isn't that their perrogative? And if the person I paid to package up the binaries for me found this package and just passed it on to me, why should I care? I got what I asked for: packaged binaries.
Now, suppose I paid for packaged binaries and my provider grabbed what someone else packaged and passed it on to me without the due diligence of making sure the packaging was done well and would not break my system. If my system breaks due to installing the (faulty) package, I would expect my provider to eat the cost of fixing my system and redoing the packaging.
Again, the whole time, the source has been available, and I could have done all of this myself at "no cost". (My time is worth money, so if I do it myself, it is not at "no cost".)
Any fee in any fee structure may be applied to the packaging and distribution of binaries, providing the source is freely available to the public for viewing and / or modification, without violating the principle, intent or spirit of the open source movement.
In my mind, the only "violation" would be that those who want everyone to do everything for them without being willing to tangibly recognize the effort afforded would have to take a turn at being a member of the "everyone to do everything" crowd or wait however long until a member of that crowd did it for them.
It may be true that "many eyes make safer code", but only if the many eyes actually review the code, which is what the author said. In OSS, there are more qualified eyes with the ability to audit, test and review the code, but that doesn't mean that any those eyes are actually doing it.
This means that OSS has the *potential* to be more secure, but as shown by the article, that potential is not fully realized.
- "The biggest single challenge, in my experience, is inertia," Liebovitch said.
- "The single biggest problem at the enterprise level is politics," said Leon Brooks
- "The single biggest obstacle to Linux everywhere is specific Windows applications...," Brooks said
I think maybe we should agree on a single most imporant thing, or agree on the collection of most important issues. Who wants leadership that can't make up their mind?
If MS took off with their own protocol, there are bright enough minds in this slashdot, Linux, nonMS community to reverse engineer enough of the protocol to get around on it if we wanted. The new underinternet with less traffic might be nice.
What about M$? They can selectively remove all electronics completely from the Earth if they "remain in power" for a couple of years. (Enough years to get into calculators and microwaves and vehicles, etc.) They made a wasteland of a good database and called it SQL Server, killed other competition in like manner, and are now working on copy control. Soon, they'll have automated all of my work and I won't be licensed to do any because copying from RAM to the HDD is a crime and because the darn wizard answers its own questions and does my job for me in the way *it* "thinks" best.
how long or how many times has it been like it is and we've (the human race) just not had the technology to know it. How many times have we been grazed by a comet and only in the past few decades been able to know it? What are the cycles of the Ozone Layer?
This principle can be applied to more than just an ocean setting:
I wonder how miniature you can get with these generators... a string of anchored bouys in a lake?
How about a large container of air with a small opening that uses atmospheric pressure changes to generate air flow? (Maybe not the best idea, but think further down that line and I'm sure someone will come up with something... the ocean of air we live in has waves, too.)
What about ocean liners with a similar solution, customized as necessary?
(for fun) have a bathtub water and anchored bouy generators to power your server in the event of a power outage...:)
JonKatz mentioned near the end of his article that politics are being pushed onto kids by the kids using technology. Suddenly, Demosthenes (sp?) and Locke from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card sounded like as much of a fiction coming true as Gibson's book.
Every rule has an exception. The exception to this rule is God.
We haven't always been able to measure ozone and have no way of knowing if this is the largest hole ever. It may be the largest we've observed, but I would question anyone who thinks it's the largest ozone hole *ever*.
Just like the comet a couple years back that "just missed earth". I'm sure there are more that have come closer and missed, and we just weren't watching yet. (Yes, I know some have landed. But I would bet still bet that we are missed by more than we think.)
I remember playing a handheld football game with my Uncle while I was growing up. I don't remember the exact number of rows and colums, but I think there were 5 or 7 rows by 10 columns of red LEDs. The really bright one was the guy who had the ball, the fast, blinking one was the ball being passed, and I don't recall how you distinguished between your guys and the other team. I believe the buttons were up, down, forward (right), back (left), pass / kick and one other button (maybe kneel or punt or something). In a 2 player game, you had to play 1 at a time. I clearly remember having lots of fun.
I've since played football on various home gaming systems, each offering sets of plays to run, more or less realistic 3D characters, yadda, yadda, yadda. I didn't have as much fun.
It makes sense that email isn't allowed. Some people would be on the computer for hours doing email. Maybe email should be allowed, but only for 15 minutes.
Some people would be on the computer for hours chatting about nothing, too. I think that visiting a chat with a focus (like the About.com Pregnancy & Birth chat) should be considered ok, because you might actually learn something there. But lots of IRC channels and telnet chats / muds won't teach you a thing, in which case you should let someone who is going to learn something use the computer.
Maybe there should just be a time limit & do what you want, except no porn or virii.
Proud father, Jason Uppenborn
"The problem isn't whether computers think, but whether men do." -- ??
I don't know about anyone else, but if my keyboard was replaced by something I had to write on, my productivity would go straight down the tube. I can type between 65 and 90 wpm, depending on subject matter, whether I'm transcribing (some people still communicate TO me on paper but I email back), and a host of other criteria. But regardless of criteria, I don't think I can write / print in excess of 30 wpm. That said, I'll keep my keyboard, please. Proud father, Jason
I wonder how FreeCiv and Civilization (Civ) will handle this. Of course, there would be the Supercavitation discovery. But what kind of transportation and weapons would we be able to build? I envision a hydro-lift (think air-lift) and a Transport / Mother sub with supercavitated bullets and fighter subs with a Attack/Hits/Moves ratio similar to 50/10/20. And of course, that means you need a supercavitation port city improvement.
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For those who don't know, _Ender's Game_ is a great sci-fi book by Orson Scott Card. I've heard they'll be making a movie about it, but I don't know when.
Based on the article, UL will be charging per seat for binaries while leaving the source available to the public and free of charge. I don't see anything wrong with that.
If I want someone to compile something and package it up to save me some headaches, I ought to be willing to pay them to do it for me. If someone else compiles it and packages up the binaries, and since they had to do it for themselves anyway, makes the packaged binaries available to the public with or without charge, isn't that their perrogative? And if the person I paid to package up the binaries for me found this package and just passed it on to me, why should I care? I got what I asked for: packaged binaries.
Now, suppose I paid for packaged binaries and my provider grabbed what someone else packaged and passed it on to me without the due diligence of making sure the packaging was done well and would not break my system. If my system breaks due to installing the (faulty) package, I would expect my provider to eat the cost of fixing my system and redoing the packaging.
Again, the whole time, the source has been available, and I could have done all of this myself at "no cost". (My time is worth money, so if I do it myself, it is not at "no cost".)
Any fee in any fee structure may be applied to the packaging and distribution of binaries, providing the source is freely available to the public for viewing and / or modification, without violating the principle, intent or spirit of the open source movement.
In my mind, the only "violation" would be that those who want everyone to do everything for them without being willing to tangibly recognize the effort afforded would have to take a turn at being a member of the "everyone to do everything" crowd or wait however long until a member of that crowd did it for them.
It may be true that "many eyes make safer code", but only if the many eyes actually review the code, which is what the author said. In OSS, there are more qualified eyes with the ability to audit, test and review the code, but that doesn't mean that any those eyes are actually doing it.
This means that OSS has the *potential* to be more secure, but as shown by the article, that potential is not fully realized.
- "The biggest single challenge, in my experience, is inertia," Liebovitch said. ...," Brooks said
- "The single biggest problem at the enterprise level is politics," said Leon Brooks
- "The single biggest obstacle to Linux everywhere is specific Windows applications
I think maybe we should agree on a single most imporant thing, or agree on the collection of most important issues. Who wants leadership that can't make up their mind?
...maybe
If MS took off with their own protocol, there are bright enough minds in this slashdot, Linux, nonMS community to reverse engineer enough of the protocol to get around on it if we wanted. The new underinternet with less traffic might be nice.
What about M$? They can selectively remove all electronics completely from the Earth if they "remain in power" for a couple of years. (Enough years to get into calculators and microwaves and vehicles, etc.) They made a wasteland of a good database and called it SQL Server, killed other competition in like manner, and are now working on copy control. Soon, they'll have automated all of my work and I won't be licensed to do any because copying from RAM to the HDD is a crime and because the darn wizard answers its own questions and does my job for me in the way *it* "thinks" best.
/rant
...if you have to slit your own throat to get it?
how long or how many times has it been like it is and we've (the human race) just not had the technology to know it. How many times have we been grazed by a comet and only in the past few decades been able to know it? What are the cycles of the Ozone Layer?
- I wonder how miniature you can get with these generators... a string of anchored bouys in a lake?
- How about a large container of air with a small opening that uses atmospheric pressure changes to generate air flow? (Maybe not the best idea, but think further down that line and I'm sure someone will come up with something... the ocean of air we live in has waves, too.)
- What about ocean liners with a similar solution, customized as necessary?
- (for fun) have a bathtub water and anchored bouy generators to power your server in the event of a power outage...
:)
The possibilities are (almost) endless!Every rule has an exception. The exception to this rule is God.
We haven't always been able to measure ozone and have no way of knowing if this is the largest hole ever. It may be the largest we've observed, but I would question anyone who thinks it's the largest ozone hole *ever*.
Just like the comet a couple years back that "just missed earth". I'm sure there are more that have come closer and missed, and we just weren't watching yet. (Yes, I know some have landed. But I would bet still bet that we are missed by more than we think.)
Proud father,
Jason
I remember playing a handheld football game with my Uncle while I was growing up. I don't remember the exact number of rows and colums, but I think there were 5 or 7 rows by 10 columns of red LEDs. The really bright one was the guy who had the ball, the fast, blinking one was the ball being passed, and I don't recall how you distinguished between your guys and the other team. I believe the buttons were up, down, forward (right), back (left), pass / kick and one other button (maybe kneel or punt or something). In a 2 player game, you had to play 1 at a time. I clearly remember having lots of fun.
I've since played football on various home gaming systems, each offering sets of plays to run, more or less realistic 3D characters, yadda, yadda, yadda. I didn't have as much fun.
Proud father,
Jason
It makes sense that email isn't allowed. Some people would be on the computer for hours doing email. Maybe email should be allowed, but only for 15 minutes. Some people would be on the computer for hours chatting about nothing, too. I think that visiting a chat with a focus (like the About.com Pregnancy & Birth chat) should be considered ok, because you might actually learn something there. But lots of IRC channels and telnet chats / muds won't teach you a thing, in which case you should let someone who is going to learn something use the computer. Maybe there should just be a time limit & do what you want, except no porn or virii. Proud father, Jason Uppenborn "The problem isn't whether computers think, but whether men do." -- ??
I don't know about anyone else, but if my keyboard was replaced by something I had to write on, my productivity would go straight down the tube. I can type between 65 and 90 wpm, depending on subject matter, whether I'm transcribing (some people still communicate TO me on paper but I email back), and a host of other criteria. But regardless of criteria, I don't think I can write / print in excess of 30 wpm. That said, I'll keep my keyboard, please. Proud father, Jason
I wonder how FreeCiv and Civilization (Civ) will handle this. Of course, there would be the Supercavitation discovery. But what kind of transportation and weapons would we be able to build? I envision a hydro-lift (think air-lift) and a Transport / Mother sub with supercavitated bullets and fighter subs with a Attack/Hits/Moves ratio similar to 50/10/20. And of course, that means you need a supercavitation port city improvement.
:)
Mmm... can't wait to play...