Imagine, if his attitude were to be more prevalent.
HP Lovecraft? Get over your stupid demons, stfu, and get a job.
Hawthorne? Get over your alienation, stfu, and eat your pizza.
I saw Planet Terror a couple of weeks back. I love the zombie movie. If it weren't for Lovecraft, Hawthorne, Poe, and others seeding modern horror and surrealism with the concept of alienation in the midst of a crowd, revulsion of humanity, etc, we wouldn't have vast swaths of modern horror. When you understand the zombie movie, you'll see even an homage to bad zombie movies as terribly interesting and full of merit.
Of course, people like him would do nothing edifying. I would not want to live in a world where that mindset dictates creativity.
You're right, the Marshall Plan was Europe. I can't remember the name of the initiative a the moment, but we didn't start helping Japan until much later, during the Korean War. They made a mighty fine industrial base and local link in the supply chain. Always get those two acts confused.
Also, there was a massive surge in "patriotism" (read: jingoism) in the run up to Japan's militarization. It started with the first Sino-Japanese war, and did get really, really bad. Most Japanese had NO problem dumping the forced patriotism, and a only a minority really bought into it anyway (kinda like the US and the War on Terror). But you are right, officially the emperor and the temples were co-opted in the jingoism (as well as EVERYTHING distinctly Japanese).
As for Shiner, my grandma used to drink that. But it's a Bock, and definately the exception. It's way better than some Bud, Miller, Pabst, or Beast;)
And thanks for making the point that this isn't about censorship, but deciding that violent speech SHOULD be treated differently.
...I'll try to be easy on you.
You make a good point, that this isn't a ban. But, I have to ask for some clarification:
That logic works both ways, remember the Prohibition?
I don't, but I heard enough from my grandma. It became IMPOSSIBLE to find good beer or liquor after prohibition. In fact, you couldn't find GOOD beer until the 1980s. You do realize that all prohibition did was close breweries and distileries that were founded by some very famous founding fathers. George Washington ran a still, and his distillery JUST reopened. We lost a major heritage from Prohibition.
Organized crime? You know that was a problem too, right? Crime went UP, not DOWN. Drinking became MORE of a problem. Prohibition ENCOURAGED drinking, by driving people together in gin joints. It became a fad, and organized crime stepped in to fill the vacuum.
[Bla Bla]Christians are crucified on Slashdot, but Muslims are not even though the propaganda they're postulating is so very much more damaging than what comes from the Chistian camp.
What? Not ALL Christians or Muslims are, nor is anyone other than you making sweeping generalizations. Yes, there are radical Wahabbists. There are crazy cultist Christians too. The reason you may see some bias is that most Slashdotters know jack-all about Muslims, but probably suspect they aren't all violent extremists. However, we all do know vastly more about Christianity, and know that God never said he "hates fags," that Revelation isn't ecclesiastical, and other common but very unchristian beliefs. If most Slashdotters knew more about Islam, they'd probably have a MUCH different view, and you would see more outrage. It's hard to get outraged when you have no knowledge of a subject.
They said they were going to go and get rid of Shintoism and baggage that it carried with it.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I majored in Japanese. That statement is wrong on more levels than I can imagine. Were you being sarcastic? I really don't know where to begin, but I hope you realize the Marshall Plan did not include squat about religion. The Japanese attacked us because we were moving to help China, and we cut off scrap iron and petroleum sales (due just as much to our need of war resources as a condemnation of their actions in China). They thought we were ripe for taking (and at the time, we were), lacking much in the way of an army. Their generals honestly didn't think we'd build a war machine as fast as we did, and a major blow to our navy would cause us to reconsider our actions. Just be glad they didn't land in San Francisco first. They would have done far more damage in occupying us.
But Shinto? You realize the Japanese are just as much Buddhist as Shinto right? And it's far more cultural than religious, like Christianity is to many Americans.
Seriously, I agree with your main point. This isn't censorship, and fighting against Islamist extremists is a good idea (as is fighting ALL religious extremists, really). Pretty much all modern, 1st-world terrorism is based on religion (the IRA was 50% religious, 50% political). But, be careful of arguments that not only have nothing to do with your thesis, but are uninformed as well. You probably had the best point in this thread. Just some education and advice for next time.
JUNTA DECLARES VISTA OFFICIAL OS (and also jails thousands of dissidents)
THAILAND SUPPORTS SCO and oh yeah something about opposition groups banned
You do realize that headlines like those, where the militant government comes to the defense of business and money interests at the expense of it's citizens is the very heart of Fascism? That was Mussolini's gift to the world. Does the Thai government have the big 4 qualities of Italian Fascism yet?
* Militarism? Check.
* Dictatorship? Check.
* Nationalist by force of law? Check.
* Corporatist by force of law? Check.
So, headlines like that ARE relevant, and certainly do speak to their "sins." We used to be Raid for Fascists, and killed them pretty dead there for a while. It's that "horror" of anti-open source rhetoric that makes you uneasy. It starts to fill in that last check box. More stories like that, where the government spews propaganda shouting down one company and praising another, takes this from 2nd rate military coup to 2nd rate Fascist military coup. And we've seen no Fascist government that wasn't RABIDLY expansionist.
Iridium makes for a nice, cheap, low-power source for industrial radiography. Cobalt lasts longer and has a bigger punch, but if you don't need to expose 3 feet of steel, iridium is far more cost effective.
Big business in NDT, but no where near the size of the military. Of course, our biggest customers are the military, followed by airlines and schools.
We'll see iridium around for a long time I think. And I love those silly looking antennas.
No, he wasn't willing to drive 300 miles, that was the point. Second it was an AUTHORIZED retailer. They were also a repair center. Third, Apple didn't exactly have a catalogue system in the late 70's, early 80's.
The history of Apple started before the iMac and the internet. Apple had local communities of Apple and Mac users driving them, not web boards. Many times, the VERY few Apple retailers were hubs of finding other Apple users and usually hosted user groups. When Apple started pushing the Mac, most of the retailers dropped any reasonable support for the old Apples and no longer hosted user groups.
Now, in all that history and talking with Apple and Mac users, I always hear how Apple is vastly superior to the PC in every way, people are finally noticing, the community is growing, and Apple is inches from breaking the IBM/Microsoft/whomever stranglehold on the market. And you'd think, 20 years later, we'd have made some headway.
I can't believe you've been flaming me over this. My point, that despite the fact I'm an Apple fan, is that they aren't perfect and every geek has stories about Apple. Not all of those stories are positive. Every time I hear this meme, that Apple is about to break IBM or Microsoft, or whomever's back, I WANT REAL DATA.
You may be right. It's that mindset that prevents me from posting in Apple threads. Despite being a user and consumer of Apple products for 25 years now, if I so much as SUGGEST that Apple isn't going to overtake Microsoft in the next two years, or point out that it may be foolish to think so barring any data, I get modded troll and flamed to oblivion on how I'm wrong. You'd think that after about 30 years of "winning" users over, we'd have won by now...
Protectionism is the act of protecting your industries. The WTO frowns on all protectionism. But the EU is more lax in allowing protectionism, especially if you prove a decent religious basis. If something is just plain immoral or sacreligious in your country, neither the WTO or EU have any real problem with you banning it.
That was exactly my point. Anyone can see that we don't have some far-reaching problem with gambling in this country. In fact Las Vegas is probably the biggest tourist destination in this country (been there twice, it certainly seems like it to me). If we REALLY had a problem with gambling, you couldn't gamble anywhere, and the state wouldn't have a monopoly on it in most areas. This is not just protectionism, but protection of a state monopoly. No kidding the WTO frowns on it.
I doubt you'll find many Slashdotters hanging out with your average WTO protester. Sure, they both may be pasty, unwashed, and/or unshaved, but the similarity ends there. I'd bet most Slashdotters understand basic economics and understand there's generally nothing wrong with the WTO. Depending on how protectionist or stupid your leaders may be, your mileage may vary.
The crux of the issue here, is that unlike in the EU where local moral and religious laws get some protection from EU decisions, the WTO frowns on morality-based protectionism. As well they should. What business is it of our government to dictate what someone can do with their money? Gambling restrictions in this country are sold as religion-based. A good portion of Christians think that gambling is immoral. The other portion thinks that gambling is a waste of money and disproportionatly affects the poor. I suspect the real reason is because the state likes having a monopoly on gaming (state lotteries) and doesn't want the free market driving their payout percentages.
Then again, I'm not your "average" Slashdotter. Even though I AM an economist, the internet is full of people who read Atlas Shrugged and think they have a degree from Wharton or something. So I may be wrong about your "average Slashdot user."
Because the only Apple retailer in 300 miles stop selling anything for our Apple that year. Maybe Apple didn't stop selling their Apple ][ line, but there was no way we were getting any new software or hardware. Although we had Compuserve and a hot 300 baud modem, it's not like you could just download new software in those days. Back then, you actually had to find a store.
I wish I still had mod points, this is a rather good point. EVERY time I've come across articles praising how well Apple is doing in the market, the author inevitably says something stupid like "you can just FEEL the energy Apple is putting in the market."
I'm with you, I call bullshit. Give me evidence that Apple is 'pwning' Microsoft in any measurable way. Just because people hate using Windows doesn't mean OSX wins by default. My father is STILL pissed how he blew 3000 bucks on an Apple ][ and 6 months later Jobs announces they have this thing called a Macintosh and how they were going to screw supporting anyone who had an Apple. He will NEVER own another Apple product. Look, I have hokey anecdotes too!
One of my professors told me once, long ago: "In God we trust, all others bring data."
Oh, there's that and tons more problems. I never said that these "labor retailers" were monopolies (like unions). It just happens that traditional business models of unions require a monopoly to survive.
A better approach would be value-adds to both employee and employer, like a temp agency. That's why we've seen a big uptick in temp agencies in the last decade.
But, as someone with a degree in economics, I love to throw this argument out to people who act like they know WTF they are talking about:
If this is a free market, and people are resources, why shouldn't someone start a company, much like a union or guild, that manages the sale of labor? A union is a business whose product is selling labor.
Oh, there's a whole lot of information, debate, and schools of thought around unions and labor, but the above simplicity usually makes the armchair Randians STFU.
Captain Jack Harkness is played by a yank and he was popular enough to get his own show. I think it may be because John Barrowman is the Typhoid Mary of teh ghey. I say this, in all seriousness, as a straight man.
Now, do I still feel like a rice-boy for having urban camo RAM in my computer? Yea, but it helped me build a nice computer with a giant 22" monitor for 1500 bucks (Newegg Wishlist #4258847, search Palladiate if you are curious).
A perfect scenario is when that rebel is acting alone, 12 years old, at home, and looking up some seditious website like Slashdot, or Dailykos, or whatever the local, 3rd-world equivalent will be.
I read magazines in the bathroom while my laptop is currently in pieces. I'm waiting on my 3rd replacement screen.
That's the only excuse I can think of. You read magazines because either you don't have a laptop, you don't have Wifi, or you don't have to go to the bathroom. Any one of those three probably makes you a freak, though.
With three surgeries, 8 chemo treatments, and 50 radiation treatments, I've only accumulated $6000 worth of treatment and drugs. And that includes the $100 a pop pills. My insurance has dropped my out of pockets to about $300 for everything, including my perscriptions. My daughter's birth cost us $5000. And at $350 bucks a month for my insurance, and at my age of 27, you KNOW they still make a ton of money, even if you do get cancer on them (which is impossibly rare at my age).
108 months (9 years of paying insurance) * $300/month = $32,400 - $6000 - $4000 = $22,400 I'll never see in benefit.
Does it make them culpable for millions of dollars in IP damages? In this country we enshrined the notion of no cruel or unusual punishment. While these are civil cases, most reasonable people probably feel that saying some grandma with 2 pirated albums has cost some asshole at BMG $300,000 worth of damage is not right. If she has benefited at anyone's expense, it's not any more than the $20 total value those pirated Tom Jones albums.
I tell you what, we'll stop playing the granny card when you stop playing the moral equivalence card.
Funny you didn't mention him. He had a good answer to your Anne Frank question. He was involved in the German resistance and the plot to assassinate Hitler despite being a very religious man. He spent a great deal of time in prison for his beliefs against Nazism. He eventually died from it too.
The Wikipedia entry on him is too sparse for my liking, but you can still see it here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Bonhoeffer
Ah, didn't see that defined in the EULA anywhere. That still messes with AMD though. AMD will definately have two chips, and they are claiming that the two cores per chip will not be cut on the same die, and will feature everything separately, such as frequency scaling, cache, and memory pipelines.
However, I'm not saying that Microsoft is dumb enough to classify that as four processors.
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Imagine, if his attitude were to be more prevalent.
HP Lovecraft? Get over your stupid demons, stfu, and get a job.
Hawthorne? Get over your alienation, stfu, and eat your pizza.
I saw Planet Terror a couple of weeks back. I love the zombie movie. If it weren't for Lovecraft, Hawthorne, Poe, and others seeding modern horror and surrealism with the concept of alienation in the midst of a crowd, revulsion of humanity, etc, we wouldn't have vast swaths of modern horror. When you understand the zombie movie, you'll see even an homage to bad zombie movies as terribly interesting and full of merit.
Of course, people like him would do nothing edifying. I would not want to live in a world where that mindset dictates creativity.
You're right, the Marshall Plan was Europe. I can't remember the name of the initiative a the moment, but we didn't start helping Japan until much later, during the Korean War. They made a mighty fine industrial base and local link in the supply chain. Always get those two acts confused.
;)
Also, there was a massive surge in "patriotism" (read: jingoism) in the run up to Japan's militarization. It started with the first Sino-Japanese war, and did get really, really bad. Most Japanese had NO problem dumping the forced patriotism, and a only a minority really bought into it anyway (kinda like the US and the War on Terror). But you are right, officially the emperor and the temples were co-opted in the jingoism (as well as EVERYTHING distinctly Japanese).
As for Shiner, my grandma used to drink that. But it's a Bock, and definately the exception. It's way better than some Bud, Miller, Pabst, or Beast
And thanks for making the point that this isn't about censorship, but deciding that violent speech SHOULD be treated differently.
I don't, but I heard enough from my grandma. It became IMPOSSIBLE to find good beer or liquor after prohibition. In fact, you couldn't find GOOD beer until the 1980s. You do realize that all prohibition did was close breweries and distileries that were founded by some very famous founding fathers. George Washington ran a still, and his distillery JUST reopened. We lost a major heritage from Prohibition.
Organized crime? You know that was a problem too, right? Crime went UP, not DOWN. Drinking became MORE of a problem. Prohibition ENCOURAGED drinking, by driving people together in gin joints. It became a fad, and organized crime stepped in to fill the vacuum.
What? Not ALL Christians or Muslims are, nor is anyone other than you making sweeping generalizations. Yes, there are radical Wahabbists. There are crazy cultist Christians too. The reason you may see some bias is that most Slashdotters know jack-all about Muslims, but probably suspect they aren't all violent extremists. However, we all do know vastly more about Christianity, and know that God never said he "hates fags," that Revelation isn't ecclesiastical, and other common but very unchristian beliefs. If most Slashdotters knew more about Islam, they'd probably have a MUCH different view, and you would see more outrage. It's hard to get outraged when you have no knowledge of a subject.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I majored in Japanese. That statement is wrong on more levels than I can imagine. Were you being sarcastic? I really don't know where to begin, but I hope you realize the Marshall Plan did not include squat about religion. The Japanese attacked us because we were moving to help China, and we cut off scrap iron and petroleum sales (due just as much to our need of war resources as a condemnation of their actions in China). They thought we were ripe for taking (and at the time, we were), lacking much in the way of an army. Their generals honestly didn't think we'd build a war machine as fast as we did, and a major blow to our navy would cause us to reconsider our actions. Just be glad they didn't land in San Francisco first. They would have done far more damage in occupying us.
But Shinto? You realize the Japanese are just as much Buddhist as Shinto right? And it's far more cultural than religious, like Christianity is to many Americans.
Seriously, I agree with your main point. This isn't censorship, and fighting against Islamist extremists is a good idea (as is fighting ALL religious extremists, really). Pretty much all modern, 1st-world terrorism is based on religion (the IRA was 50% religious, 50% political). But, be careful of arguments that not only have nothing to do with your thesis, but are uninformed as well. You probably had the best point in this thread. Just some education and advice for next time.
Well, this has been floating around a couple of the internets (Fark, 4chan) the last few minutes (know one has been able to verify the authenticty of it yet): http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog. view&friendID=171473490&blogID=254062324&MyToken=9 445f281-3ecf-42f5-9759-a309acba61af
JUNTA DECLARES VISTA OFFICIAL OS (and also jails thousands of dissidents)
THAILAND SUPPORTS SCO and oh yeah something about opposition groups banned
You do realize that headlines like those, where the militant government comes to the defense of business and money interests at the expense of it's citizens is the very heart of Fascism? That was Mussolini's gift to the world. Does the Thai government have the big 4 qualities of Italian Fascism yet?
* Militarism? Check.
* Dictatorship? Check.
* Nationalist by force of law? Check.
* Corporatist by force of law? Check.
So, headlines like that ARE relevant, and certainly do speak to their "sins." We used to be Raid for Fascists, and killed them pretty dead there for a while. It's that "horror" of anti-open source rhetoric that makes you uneasy. It starts to fill in that last check box. More stories like that, where the government spews propaganda shouting down one company and praising another, takes this from 2nd rate military coup to 2nd rate Fascist military coup. And we've seen no Fascist government that wasn't RABIDLY expansionist.
Iridium makes for a nice, cheap, low-power source for industrial radiography. Cobalt lasts longer and has a bigger punch, but if you don't need to expose 3 feet of steel, iridium is far more cost effective.
Big business in NDT, but no where near the size of the military. Of course, our biggest customers are the military, followed by airlines and schools.
We'll see iridium around for a long time I think. And I love those silly looking antennas.
No, he wasn't willing to drive 300 miles, that was the point. Second it was an AUTHORIZED retailer. They were also a repair center. Third, Apple didn't exactly have a catalogue system in the late 70's, early 80's.
The history of Apple started before the iMac and the internet. Apple had local communities of Apple and Mac users driving them, not web boards. Many times, the VERY few Apple retailers were hubs of finding other Apple users and usually hosted user groups. When Apple started pushing the Mac, most of the retailers dropped any reasonable support for the old Apples and no longer hosted user groups.
Now, in all that history and talking with Apple and Mac users, I always hear how Apple is vastly superior to the PC in every way, people are finally noticing, the community is growing, and Apple is inches from breaking the IBM/Microsoft/whomever stranglehold on the market. And you'd think, 20 years later, we'd have made some headway.
I can't believe you've been flaming me over this. My point, that despite the fact I'm an Apple fan, is that they aren't perfect and every geek has stories about Apple. Not all of those stories are positive. Every time I hear this meme, that Apple is about to break IBM or Microsoft, or whomever's back, I WANT REAL DATA.
You may be right. It's that mindset that prevents me from posting in Apple threads. Despite being a user and consumer of Apple products for 25 years now, if I so much as SUGGEST that Apple isn't going to overtake Microsoft in the next two years, or point out that it may be foolish to think so barring any data, I get modded troll and flamed to oblivion on how I'm wrong. You'd think that after about 30 years of "winning" users over, we'd have won by now...
Protectionism is the act of protecting your industries. The WTO frowns on all protectionism. But the EU is more lax in allowing protectionism, especially if you prove a decent religious basis. If something is just plain immoral or sacreligious in your country, neither the WTO or EU have any real problem with you banning it.
Again, this is about protectionism.
That was exactly my point. Anyone can see that we don't have some far-reaching problem with gambling in this country. In fact Las Vegas is probably the biggest tourist destination in this country (been there twice, it certainly seems like it to me). If we REALLY had a problem with gambling, you couldn't gamble anywhere, and the state wouldn't have a monopoly on it in most areas. This is not just protectionism, but protection of a state monopoly. No kidding the WTO frowns on it.
I doubt you'll find many Slashdotters hanging out with your average WTO protester. Sure, they both may be pasty, unwashed, and/or unshaved, but the similarity ends there. I'd bet most Slashdotters understand basic economics and understand there's generally nothing wrong with the WTO. Depending on how protectionist or stupid your leaders may be, your mileage may vary.
The crux of the issue here, is that unlike in the EU where local moral and religious laws get some protection from EU decisions, the WTO frowns on morality-based protectionism. As well they should. What business is it of our government to dictate what someone can do with their money? Gambling restrictions in this country are sold as religion-based. A good portion of Christians think that gambling is immoral. The other portion thinks that gambling is a waste of money and disproportionatly affects the poor. I suspect the real reason is because the state likes having a monopoly on gaming (state lotteries) and doesn't want the free market driving their payout percentages.
Then again, I'm not your "average" Slashdotter. Even though I AM an economist, the internet is full of people who read Atlas Shrugged and think they have a degree from Wharton or something. So I may be wrong about your "average Slashdot user."
Because the only Apple retailer in 300 miles stop selling anything for our Apple that year. Maybe Apple didn't stop selling their Apple ][ line, but there was no way we were getting any new software or hardware. Although we had Compuserve and a hot 300 baud modem, it's not like you could just download new software in those days. Back then, you actually had to find a store.
I wish I still had mod points, this is a rather good point. EVERY time I've come across articles praising how well Apple is doing in the market, the author inevitably says something stupid like "you can just FEEL the energy Apple is putting in the market."
I'm with you, I call bullshit. Give me evidence that Apple is 'pwning' Microsoft in any measurable way. Just because people hate using Windows doesn't mean OSX wins by default. My father is STILL pissed how he blew 3000 bucks on an Apple ][ and 6 months later Jobs announces they have this thing called a Macintosh and how they were going to screw supporting anyone who had an Apple. He will NEVER own another Apple product. Look, I have hokey anecdotes too!
One of my professors told me once, long ago: "In God we trust, all others bring data."
Oh, there's that and tons more problems. I never said that these "labor retailers" were monopolies (like unions). It just happens that traditional business models of unions require a monopoly to survive.
A better approach would be value-adds to both employee and employer, like a temp agency. That's why we've seen a big uptick in temp agencies in the last decade.
But, as someone with a degree in economics, I love to throw this argument out to people who act like they know WTF they are talking about:
If this is a free market, and people are resources, why shouldn't someone start a company, much like a union or guild, that manages the sale of labor? A union is a business whose product is selling labor.
Oh, there's a whole lot of information, debate, and schools of thought around unions and labor, but the above simplicity usually makes the armchair Randians STFU.
Captain Jack Harkness is played by a yank and he was popular enough to get his own show. I think it may be because John Barrowman is the Typhoid Mary of teh ghey. I say this, in all seriousness, as a straight man.
That said, a female Doctor would be very cool.
http://www.yog-sothoth.com/modules.php?name=Review s&rop=showcontent&id=24
Check it out, Baby's First Cthulhu.
OCZ memory was the cheapest RAM I could buy that was on my ASUS mobo's QVL http://usa.asus.com/100/download/products/1198/119 8_10.zip. That is CERTAINLY not the case with Monster Cables.
Now, do I still feel like a rice-boy for having urban camo RAM in my computer? Yea, but it helped me build a nice computer with a giant 22" monitor for 1500 bucks (Newegg Wishlist #4258847, search Palladiate if you are curious).
A perfect scenario is when that rebel is acting alone, 12 years old, at home, and looking up some seditious website like Slashdot, or Dailykos, or whatever the local, 3rd-world equivalent will be.
I read magazines in the bathroom while my laptop is currently in pieces. I'm waiting on my 3rd replacement screen.
That's the only excuse I can think of. You read magazines because either you don't have a laptop, you don't have Wifi, or you don't have to go to the bathroom. Any one of those three probably makes you a freak, though.
With three surgeries, 8 chemo treatments, and 50 radiation treatments, I've only accumulated $6000 worth of treatment and drugs. And that includes the $100 a pop pills. My insurance has dropped my out of pockets to about $300 for everything, including my perscriptions. My daughter's birth cost us $5000. And at $350 bucks a month for my insurance, and at my age of 27, you KNOW they still make a ton of money, even if you do get cancer on them (which is impossibly rare at my age).
108 months (9 years of paying insurance) * $300/month = $32,400 - $6000 - $4000 = $22,400 I'll never see in benefit.
Does it make them culpable for millions of dollars in IP damages? In this country we enshrined the notion of no cruel or unusual punishment. While these are civil cases, most reasonable people probably feel that saying some grandma with 2 pirated albums has cost some asshole at BMG $300,000 worth of damage is not right. If she has benefited at anyone's expense, it's not any more than the $20 total value those pirated Tom Jones albums. I tell you what, we'll stop playing the granny card when you stop playing the moral equivalence card.
Funny you didn't mention him. He had a good answer to your Anne Frank question. He was involved in the German resistance and the plot to assassinate Hitler despite being a very religious man. He spent a great deal of time in prison for his beliefs against Nazism. He eventually died from it too. The Wikipedia entry on him is too sparse for my liking, but you can still see it here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Bonhoeffer
Have you ever USED MS-SQL? At least the cheese doesn't take 45 minutes to report what flavor it is under normal load conditions...
Ah, didn't see that defined in the EULA anywhere. That still messes with AMD though. AMD will definately have two chips, and they are claiming that the two cores per chip will not be cut on the same die, and will feature everything separately, such as frequency scaling, cache, and memory pipelines.
However, I'm not saying that Microsoft is dumb enough to classify that as four processors.