One thing about diesel engines is that the torque peak comes much lower in the engine rev range than a gasoline engine. Anyone who's driven the TDI version of the Volkswagen New Beetle knows you can do tire burnouts if you keep the engine rev range around 1,900 RPM because of that engine's torque peak at that engine speed.:-)
That's why in Europe many diesel engines have turbocharging to overcome the issue of power in the higher rev ranges. The result has been spectacular: the European-market BMW 330d can keep up with the gasoline-fuelled BMW 330i up to 140 mph.
It also helps that in Europe and Japan, there are strict limits on the level of sulphur compounds in diesel fuel (I believe it's under 300 parts per million, unlike diesel fuel in the USA, which has 1,200 parts per million).
The new EPA standard will drop sulphur compound levels to under 100 parts per million, the same as the current California Air Resources Board (CARB) standard. Given that bio-diesel doesn't have sulphur compounds to start with, that issue is now moot. The other nice thing about bio-diesel is that particulate emissions are also substantially lower, too.
Without sulphur compounds fouling up both the intake and exhaust systems, it's now possible to implement things like direct injection, common-rail fuel delivery and lower-cost catalysts, which means lower air emissions along the way, more power and lower fuel consumption.
I don't worry that the Detroit auto companies can't produce a decent diesel engine. After all, GM and Ford have all that diesel truck engine experience, and they can tap into their experience with diesel engines sold on the European market.
Don't think diesel engines are slow, either. Anyone who's driven the European-market BMW 330d knows it can easily keep up with the gasoline-fuelled BMW 330i easily up to 140 mph.
Actually, the whole idea of using certain crops to create a bio-diesel fuel has been around for a number of years.
Crops such as non-sweet corn, soybeans, sugar beets, sugar cane, coconuts, canola seed, and jojoba beans could be grown on a very large scale to create the ingredients for bio-diesel fuel. This fuel has two advantages:
1. The source of fuel is renewable.
2. Bio-diesel has no sulfur compounds and very likely burns with extremely low particulate levels, which means easier design for emission control systems.
The only downside to driving a diesel combustion car is the fact that you have to adjust your driving style--diesel engines tend to have its torque curve peak relatively low in the engine rev range.
I think people don't understand that fly-by-wire systems in general are extremely tricky to set up and work properly.
Remember, when the F-16 was designed, the use of FBW was considered extremely daring--and it took a long time to work the bugs out of that system. Remember the Airbus A320 jetliner? Airbus thought its systems was better until that bizzare crash at Mulhouse, France in 1988 where the plane literally flew straight ahead into the hill. Or the numerous problems Saab had developing the FBW system for the JAS 39 Gripen fighter.
Even now, FBW systems are still tricky to use--witness the problem with the Boeing 777 and the fact there was much complaints from passengers about the plane pitching up and down substantially during turns causing motion sickness; Boeing had to carefully reprogram the FBW software so the plane wouldn't pitch up and down so much during turns.
I think the problem with the V-22 Osprey is that the FBW systems are extremely complicated, and it will take a tremendous amount of work to get everything to work correctly.
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I hate to break out the bad news, but Hitler was not a right wing freak.
People frequently forget that the word Nazi is short for National Socialist. The way the Nazis ran Germany--dictating from the government what is acceptable and what should be liquidated--is sadly what a lot of left-liberals want to do, especially on college campuses.:-(
Internet Explorer for Solaris was kind of a rushed port that did not really take advantage of the graphical environment used normally in Solaris.
I think if we do see a version of IE that runs under Linux it will likely be a written-from-scratch version that takes advantage of the API calls used in KDE or GNOME so it works seamless in these graphical environments.
That may have been more a research project than anything else.
I think if you want to put a quick kibosh on Real, make the.ASX and Windows Media formats Open Source. I wouldn't be surprised if that happens fairly soon.
As for the.NET initiative, Microsoft would wave a major olive branch at the Linux/BSD crowd by making API information available under the GNU GPL on how to make Linux and OpenBSD servers operate in the.NET environment. That would be extremely bad news for Sun, since that will undercut Sun's strategy very quickly.
If there was an Internet Explorer for Linux, it will NOT be a port of any existing code. If you look at the current versions of Internet Explorer for the Macintosh, they're written from scratch specifically for the Macintosh environment (it was written by a team of MS engineers based here in the Bay Area), owing nothing to the Windows version.
Very likely, IE for Linux will be written from scratch, and will likely function akin to the upcoming IE 6.0 for Windows 98/ME/2000/XP.
I think while Linux has its strengths primarily as a server operating system (after all, that's what UNIX was heavily designed for), the chaotic nature of Linux development has kind of hindered it from being used on desktop computers. Indeed, the best-known use of Linux in the consumer market--the TiVo Digital Video Recorder--is not marketed as a Linux device, and I think TiVo wants it that way.
Hopefully, with the completion of the Linux Standards Base (LSB) program, then Linux can be improved in an orderly fashion.
I think he has some very interesting insights in regards to the computer industry--probably more than the vast majority of the Linux crowd.
First, I think that Microsoft will be a huge contributor to MacOS X. The reason is simple: it is relatively easy to write to the Mac environment, since all the API calls are standardized. After all, we will see Office for MacOS X and very likely Internet Explorer 6.0, too.
Second, Miller is correct that Linux is still primarily a server operating system. This is where Linux's strength lies, and don't be surprised that Microsoft offers ways for Linux servers to operate in the Microsoft.Net environment.
Finally, Microsoft may port a few programs to Linux. The most likely thing: Internet Explorer.
Fortunately, there are some DSL services that will still be around.
PacBell is not going away anytime soon, since DSL is essentially an extension of their lines used for voice telephone service. I believe that PacBell has agreements with Earthlink and Prodigy Internet that these ISP's are your provider but PacBell provides the DSL connection.
I think the whole issue of Linux acceptance outside of the server realm comes down to this: there is TOO much choice in how to set up Linux.
Alas, this results in a major IT manager's nightmare, to say the least. Above the kernel level, the choice of various components you can install can result in non-standardization, which results in totally silly IT maintainance costs.
I think this is why everyone has more or less gravitated towards to major commercial Linux distributions and IT managers are strictly enforcing a policy of which Linux components each individual workstation can have. That means you have to run either KDE or GNOME, not both.
Hopefully, the Linux Standard Base (LSB) effort will bear fruit, which means there will be standardization in regards to every aspect of Linux. This should reduce system administration costs, to say the least.
I think a lot of people forget that switching from anything to Linux involves substantial retraining costs, to say the least. And that retraining cost could run into the thousands of US dollars per employee.
Linux is cheap, but training users is definitely not.
The question of how well Slashdot would continue to work depends on the scale of war.
If this was a nuclear war, the commercial Internet would surprisingly go down pretty quickly--the detonation of several megaton-yield nukes at high-altitude over the USA and the ground destruction of critical communications backbone facilities would stop all commercial Internet traffic--I don't think commercial server farms are capable of withstanding the EMP burst.
Now, military communications would likely survive, since they are designed to operate even in high radiation/EMP environments.
I know I'll get serious modded down for this,:-) but despite The Daily Show winning the Peabody Award, why is it that Fox News Channel is beating CNN handily in the total national ratings according to Neilsens despite the fact FNC has 20% less cable system clearance than CNN? Or the fact that Rush Limbaugh's talk radio show is the #1 radio show in the USA, with 22 million listeners per week, way more than even Howard Stern's show?
I think the reason is simple: people are getting tired of the liberal point of view. I've seen The Daily Show a number of times and the liberal bias is quite obvious.
It's small wonder why The O'Reilly Factor on FNC is doing extremely well and also why Bill O'Reilly appropriately got that new contract there.:)
However, there are a few companies that have managed to defy your description of Japanese companies.
Four companies I know of--Honda, Toyota, Sony and Matsushita Electric--have done well because were willing to adapt themselves to the needs of various international markets.
Think about it: when it comes to reasonably-priced quality automobiles, the brand names of Honda and Toyota always is more or less on top of the list. And when it comes to consumer electrical products, the names of Sony and Panasonic (Matshushita's worldwide brand name) also comes to mind to most people worldwide.
That is the reason why Sony Playstation became such a huge hit. And because Sony was able to leverage their brand recognition, it was able to outmarket all its competition and become #1 in console game systems.
I think what helped the revival of Dungeons and Dragons was the fact that the Third Edition was VERY heavily play-tested with the largest beta program for a gaming system. WoTC's designers carefully looked at the results of the playtests, and crafted the game to avoid all the mistakes that hurt the AD&D Second Edition rules.
It's small wonder why D&D is enjoying a major revival because gamers love the new rules.
I think I'll get flamed for this, but there are some corporations that can work outside the box of the formal corporate culture we see in large companies based on the East Coast and still survive extremely well.
I mean, look at the corporate culture of companies like Microsoft, Amazon.com and eBay--much of it is the food and soda filled, T-shirt and Nerf office geek culture you mentioned. Yet, Microsoft and eBay are still around and actually making a profit. The reason is simple: eBay and MS made the decision early to be profitable as soon as possible, not to mention the luck of getting there first in regards to their respective markets.
Indeed, look at the way Jack Welch completely overhauled General Electric; he got the company to be one of the first to have a massive presence on the Internet and also use the Internet to have direct dealings with customers. A good example of GE's use of the Internet is how the GE Aero Engines division uses extranet connections to monitor the performance of the GE90 jet engines installed on Boeing 777 airplanes with customers' approval; this allows GE to quickly identify any potential faults in the engine that can be quickly addressed with service bulletins, engine control software updates, and new parts.
In short, a company not only needs a visionary leader, but one that will not end up turning the company into a money sinkhole. I think the founder of Wizards of the Coast lost that vision and that's why the culture of WoTC changed so rapidly.
Fortunately, there were some real gems that Hanna-Barbera managed to produce every now and then.
Remember The Flintstones before the birth of Pebbles? Despite the obvious homage to The Honeymooners there was some really good episodes, and often dealt with surprisingly adult subjects for its day.
Or the original Jonny Quest? Really nice artwork, and really good writing, too.
Or the groundbreaking Wait Till Your Father Gets Home, which came out almost the same time as All in the Family? This series often was almost as edgy as the famous CBS sitcom in regards to subject matter.
I do agree that H-B did produce a lot of mediocre stuff, but you have to admit that H-B could also produce very good shows, too.
I'm quite disappointed at the denunciation of William Hanna, of all things!
People often forget that between 1957 to the early 1970's, Hanna-Barbera produced a surprisingly good amount of animation. Besides The Flintstones, who could forget the Jonny Quest or the groundbreaking series Wait Till Your Father Gets Home?
The Flintstones was groundbreaking in many ways, despite its obvious homage to The Honeymooners. Many of the episodes before Pebbles was born dealt with surprisingly adult subjects for its day. Wait Till Your Father Gets Home was another series that tackled surprisingly adult subjects, sometimes almost as edgy as All in the Family (which came out almost the same time).
I will miss Bill Hanna. He and Joe Barbera created a lot of classic cartoons, that's to be sure.
Psst--there's a lot more to videogames than just Squaresoft. ^_^
Remember, Microsoft has gotten companies like Namco, Konami, Koei, HudsonSoft, and other Japanese developers to write games for Xbox. And Microsoft smartly allied themselves with the Bandai organization to distribute Xbox in Japan; Bandai is a highly-respected entertainment name in that country.
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I respectfully disagree.:-)
The most important thing is that both Nintendo and Microsoft have low-cost development kits available for Gamecube and Xbox respectively. This will quickly speed product development, and already the demos we've seen of Gamecube and Xbox games are nothing short of breathtaking.
Already, several game publishers have found out to their chagrin that programming for PlayStation 2 has proved to be just as tough going as programming for the old Sega Saturn.
The real unknown factor is what platforms Sega's software teams will support in the long run. There are a few games already in development for PS2, but Sega also plans to write games for Nintendo's Gamecube and Game Boy Advance and Microsoft's Xbox, too. Given that Sega's internal programming teams are probably better than Nintendo's own internal programming teams, Sega could ironically have a hand in determining what will become the dominant next-generation console gaming platform.
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We will finally see some good games for the PlayStation 2 later this year.
I know of a few that will definitely be PS2 killer app games:
Final Fantasy X
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Virtual Fighter 4
Grand Turismo 3
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One thing about diesel engines is that the torque peak comes much lower in the engine rev range than a gasoline engine. Anyone who's driven the TDI version of the Volkswagen New Beetle knows you can do tire burnouts if you keep the engine rev range around 1,900 RPM because of that engine's torque peak at that engine speed. :-)
That's why in Europe many diesel engines have turbocharging to overcome the issue of power in the higher rev ranges. The result has been spectacular: the European-market BMW 330d can keep up with the gasoline-fuelled BMW 330i up to 140 mph.
It also helps that in Europe and Japan, there are strict limits on the level of sulphur compounds in diesel fuel (I believe it's under 300 parts per million, unlike diesel fuel in the USA, which has 1,200 parts per million).
The new EPA standard will drop sulphur compound levels to under 100 parts per million, the same as the current California Air Resources Board (CARB) standard. Given that bio-diesel doesn't have sulphur compounds to start with, that issue is now moot. The other nice thing about bio-diesel is that particulate emissions are also substantially lower, too.
Without sulphur compounds fouling up both the intake and exhaust systems, it's now possible to implement things like direct injection, common-rail fuel delivery and lower-cost catalysts, which means lower air emissions along the way, more power and lower fuel consumption.
I don't worry that the Detroit auto companies can't produce a decent diesel engine. After all, GM and Ford have all that diesel truck engine experience, and they can tap into their experience with diesel engines sold on the European market.
Don't think diesel engines are slow, either. Anyone who's driven the European-market BMW 330d knows it can easily keep up with the gasoline-fuelled BMW 330i easily up to 140 mph.
Actually, any high-density biomass source will work to make motor fuel.
If you saw my posting here, there are several commercial crops that could be used as base ingredients for bio-diesel fuel.
Actually, the whole idea of using certain crops to create a bio-diesel fuel has been around for a number of years.
Crops such as non-sweet corn, soybeans, sugar beets, sugar cane, coconuts, canola seed, and jojoba beans could be grown on a very large scale to create the ingredients for bio-diesel fuel. This fuel has two advantages:
1. The source of fuel is renewable.
2. Bio-diesel has no sulfur compounds and very likely burns with extremely low particulate levels, which means easier design for emission control systems.
The only downside to driving a diesel combustion car is the fact that you have to adjust your driving style--diesel engines tend to have its torque curve peak relatively low in the engine rev range.
Folks,
I think people don't understand that fly-by-wire systems in general are extremely tricky to set up and work properly.
Remember, when the F-16 was designed, the use of FBW was considered extremely daring--and it took a long time to work the bugs out of that system. Remember the Airbus A320 jetliner? Airbus thought its systems was better until that bizzare crash at Mulhouse, France in 1988 where the plane literally flew straight ahead into the hill. Or the numerous problems Saab had developing the FBW system for the JAS 39 Gripen fighter.
Even now, FBW systems are still tricky to use--witness the problem with the Boeing 777 and the fact there was much complaints from passengers about the plane pitching up and down substantially during turns causing motion sickness; Boeing had to carefully reprogram the FBW software so the plane wouldn't pitch up and down so much during turns.
I think the problem with the V-22 Osprey is that the FBW systems are extremely complicated, and it will take a tremendous amount of work to get everything to work correctly.
I hate to break out the bad news, but Hitler was not a right wing freak.
:-(
People frequently forget that the word Nazi is short for National Socialist. The way the Nazis ran Germany--dictating from the government what is acceptable and what should be liquidated--is sadly what a lot of left-liberals want to do, especially on college campuses.
Internet Explorer for Solaris was kind of a rushed port that did not really take advantage of the graphical environment used normally in Solaris.
I think if we do see a version of IE that runs under Linux it will likely be a written-from-scratch version that takes advantage of the API calls used in KDE or GNOME so it works seamless in these graphical environments.
That may have been more a research project than anything else.
.ASX and Windows Media formats Open Source. I wouldn't be surprised if that happens fairly soon.
.NET initiative, Microsoft would wave a major olive branch at the Linux/BSD crowd by making API information available under the GNU GPL on how to make Linux and OpenBSD servers operate in the .NET environment. That would be extremely bad news for Sun, since that will undercut Sun's strategy very quickly.
I think if you want to put a quick kibosh on Real, make the
As for the
If there was an Internet Explorer for Linux, it will NOT be a port of any existing code. If you look at the current versions of Internet Explorer for the Macintosh, they're written from scratch specifically for the Macintosh environment (it was written by a team of MS engineers based here in the Bay Area), owing nothing to the Windows version.
Very likely, IE for Linux will be written from scratch, and will likely function akin to the upcoming IE 6.0 for Windows 98/ME/2000/XP.
I hope you run fast before you get flamed. :)
I think while Linux has its strengths primarily as a server operating system (after all, that's what UNIX was heavily designed for), the chaotic nature of Linux development has kind of hindered it from being used on desktop computers. Indeed, the best-known use of Linux in the consumer market--the TiVo Digital Video Recorder--is not marketed as a Linux device, and I think TiVo wants it that way.
Hopefully, with the completion of the Linux Standards Base (LSB) program, then Linux can be improved in an orderly fashion.
I think he has some very interesting insights in regards to the computer industry--probably more than the vast majority of the Linux crowd.
First, I think that Microsoft will be a huge contributor to MacOS X. The reason is simple: it is relatively easy to write to the Mac environment, since all the API calls are standardized. After all, we will see Office for MacOS X and very likely Internet Explorer 6.0, too.
Second, Miller is correct that Linux is still primarily a server operating system. This is where Linux's strength lies, and don't be surprised that Microsoft offers ways for Linux servers to operate in the Microsoft.Net environment.
Finally, Microsoft may port a few programs to Linux. The most likely thing: Internet Explorer.
Fortunately, there are some DSL services that will still be around.
PacBell is not going away anytime soon, since DSL is essentially an extension of their lines used for voice telephone service. I believe that PacBell has agreements with Earthlink and Prodigy Internet that these ISP's are your provider but PacBell provides the DSL connection.
I think the whole issue of Linux acceptance outside of the server realm comes down to this: there is TOO much choice in how to set up Linux.
Alas, this results in a major IT manager's nightmare, to say the least. Above the kernel level, the choice of various components you can install can result in non-standardization, which results in totally silly IT maintainance costs.
I think this is why everyone has more or less gravitated towards to major commercial Linux distributions and IT managers are strictly enforcing a policy of which Linux components each individual workstation can have. That means you have to run either KDE or GNOME, not both.
Hopefully, the Linux Standard Base (LSB) effort will bear fruit, which means there will be standardization in regards to every aspect of Linux. This should reduce system administration costs, to say the least.
You are correct in your assessments!
I think a lot of people forget that switching from anything to Linux involves substantial retraining costs, to say the least. And that retraining cost could run into the thousands of US dollars per employee.
Linux is cheap, but training users is definitely not.
The question of how well Slashdot would continue to work depends on the scale of war.
If this was a nuclear war, the commercial Internet would surprisingly go down pretty quickly--the detonation of several megaton-yield nukes at high-altitude over the USA and the ground destruction of critical communications backbone facilities would stop all commercial Internet traffic--I don't think commercial server farms are capable of withstanding the EMP burst.
Now, military communications would likely survive, since they are designed to operate even in high radiation/EMP environments.
I know I'll get serious modded down for this, :-) but despite The Daily Show winning the Peabody Award, why is it that Fox News Channel is beating CNN handily in the total national ratings according to Neilsens despite the fact FNC has 20% less cable system clearance than CNN? Or the fact that Rush Limbaugh's talk radio show is the #1 radio show in the USA, with 22 million listeners per week, way more than even Howard Stern's show?
:)
I think the reason is simple: people are getting tired of the liberal point of view. I've seen The Daily Show a number of times and the liberal bias is quite obvious.
It's small wonder why The O'Reilly Factor on FNC is doing extremely well and also why Bill O'Reilly appropriately got that new contract there.
However, there are a few companies that have managed to defy your description of Japanese companies.
Four companies I know of--Honda, Toyota, Sony and Matsushita Electric--have done well because were willing to adapt themselves to the needs of various international markets.
Think about it: when it comes to reasonably-priced quality automobiles, the brand names of Honda and Toyota always is more or less on top of the list. And when it comes to consumer electrical products, the names of Sony and Panasonic (Matshushita's worldwide brand name) also comes to mind to most people worldwide.
That is the reason why Sony Playstation became such a huge hit. And because Sony was able to leverage their brand recognition, it was able to outmarket all its competition and become #1 in console game systems.
If this is just US$9.95 for the whole season, that's actually a pretty reasonable price.
I mean, look at Rush Limbaugh's site--Rush has said that the US$39.95/year Rush 24/7 premium access program is selling like hotcakes.
I think what helped the revival of Dungeons and Dragons was the fact that the Third Edition was VERY heavily play-tested with the largest beta program for a gaming system. WoTC's designers carefully looked at the results of the playtests, and crafted the game to avoid all the mistakes that hurt the AD&D Second Edition rules.
It's small wonder why D&D is enjoying a major revival because gamers love the new rules.
I think I'll get flamed for this, but there are some corporations that can work outside the box of the formal corporate culture we see in large companies based on the East Coast and still survive extremely well.
I mean, look at the corporate culture of companies like Microsoft, Amazon.com and eBay--much of it is the food and soda filled, T-shirt and Nerf office geek culture you mentioned. Yet, Microsoft and eBay are still around and actually making a profit. The reason is simple: eBay and MS made the decision early to be profitable as soon as possible, not to mention the luck of getting there first in regards to their respective markets.
Indeed, look at the way Jack Welch completely overhauled General Electric; he got the company to be one of the first to have a massive presence on the Internet and also use the Internet to have direct dealings with customers. A good example of GE's use of the Internet is how the GE Aero Engines division uses extranet connections to monitor the performance of the GE90 jet engines installed on Boeing 777 airplanes with customers' approval; this allows GE to quickly identify any potential faults in the engine that can be quickly addressed with service bulletins, engine control software updates, and new parts.
In short, a company not only needs a visionary leader, but one that will not end up turning the company into a money sinkhole. I think the founder of Wizards of the Coast lost that vision and that's why the culture of WoTC changed so rapidly.
Fortunately, there were some real gems that Hanna-Barbera managed to produce every now and then.
Remember The Flintstones before the birth of Pebbles? Despite the obvious homage to The Honeymooners there was some really good episodes, and often dealt with surprisingly adult subjects for its day.
Or the original Jonny Quest? Really nice artwork, and really good writing, too.
Or the groundbreaking Wait Till Your Father Gets Home, which came out almost the same time as All in the Family? This series often was almost as edgy as the famous CBS sitcom in regards to subject matter.
I do agree that H-B did produce a lot of mediocre stuff, but you have to admit that H-B could also produce very good shows, too.
I'm quite disappointed at the denunciation of William Hanna, of all things!
People often forget that between 1957 to the early 1970's, Hanna-Barbera produced a surprisingly good amount of animation. Besides The Flintstones, who could forget the Jonny Quest or the groundbreaking series Wait Till Your Father Gets Home?
The Flintstones was groundbreaking in many ways, despite its obvious homage to The Honeymooners. Many of the episodes before Pebbles was born dealt with surprisingly adult subjects for its day. Wait Till Your Father Gets Home was another series that tackled surprisingly adult subjects, sometimes almost as edgy as All in the Family (which came out almost the same time).
I will miss Bill Hanna. He and Joe Barbera created a lot of classic cartoons, that's to be sure.
Psst--there's a lot more to videogames than just Squaresoft. ^_^
Remember, Microsoft has gotten companies like Namco, Konami, Koei, HudsonSoft, and other Japanese developers to write games for Xbox. And Microsoft smartly allied themselves with the Bandai organization to distribute Xbox in Japan; Bandai is a highly-respected entertainment name in that country.
I respectfully disagree. :-)
The most important thing is that both Nintendo and Microsoft have low-cost development kits available for Gamecube and Xbox respectively. This will quickly speed product development, and already the demos we've seen of Gamecube and Xbox games are nothing short of breathtaking.
Already, several game publishers have found out to their chagrin that programming for PlayStation 2 has proved to be just as tough going as programming for the old Sega Saturn.
The real unknown factor is what platforms Sega's software teams will support in the long run. There are a few games already in development for PS2, but Sega also plans to write games for Nintendo's Gamecube and Game Boy Advance and Microsoft's Xbox, too. Given that Sega's internal programming teams are probably better than Nintendo's own internal programming teams, Sega could ironically have a hand in determining what will become the dominant next-generation console gaming platform.
We will finally see some good games for the PlayStation 2 later this year.
I know of a few that will definitely be PS2 killer app games:
Final Fantasy X
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Virtual Fighter 4
Grand Turismo 3