My wife knows very little about l0pht, only the 3 or 4 sentances I told her about them before the interview started. After the l0pht story finished she commented that ABCnews did a crappy job explaining l0pht's purpose(s) if what I said was true. (and all I said is they're like a lab, that goes down to the hardware store, buys the dead-bolts and locks, and then runs tests on them and publishes the findings.)
I normally don't watch his show, so I normally don't know what he says about most movies.
However I had a great time last night watching him and his co-host (I guess he has a different one each week from some big paper from accross the US). He and his co-host rarely agreed on anything and had opinions as different as night and day. His expressions were great when he disagreed with her, it was hilarious - clown like.
If it was a shipping mix-up, then it wasen't a crime.... so why was the NYPD called in? This UPS crap has happened to me before. They just ask for the box back and then they give you the intended shipment.
Just for you info... Ebert and his co-host gave bicentenial man two thumbs down. They felt the first hour was good and the last hour was too depressing, as all the humans die off. His co-host was saying they over-emphasized the human death part and forgot the whole part in the middle called life, which made it a rotten movie for children.
I'm sure if you just want to see a neat sci-fi idea its probably ok, but I haven't seen the movie myself though. If you disagree with Ebert and his co-host please don't call me stupid. I'm just the messenger.
We should be able to admit problems with the OS and not be labled a troll, no matter what the OS is. This is how problems get attention and get fixed, with lots of different solutions coming about from it.
"You mean to tell me I put an ABNORMAL BRAIN in a 7 foot tall monster?!!"
Young frankenstein was wonderful.
If they can create life, can they make bacteria suited to do work for us (even better than the modified bacteria they use now to clean up oil spills)? Like can they make bacteria that fight other negative bacteria?
There is another aspect to consider regarding your rights (as far as US law is concerned) -as alot of people are upset about lost privacy and lost freedom.
If the cameras are monitoring you on private property (say in the parking lot of the grocery store) and they have made an effort to notify the people on the private property (a simple sign) that they're being monitored then your legal rights to privacy are pretty much gone. Its very similar to bank's current set-ups.
If a group wants to monitor the security of their property your rights don't mean much.
This is just something to think about. I'm not saying I support it don't support it. Just wanted to remind you some of our rights disappear on private yet publicly accessed property.
The guy I was talking about isn't the guy the movie is based then if what you're saying is correct. They guy I was talking about I learned in a psychology (biopsych) course on optics/the eye, which was two years ago, which was before the movie you're talking about. We were learning about how the brain's involvement percieving visual information. Interesting case study.
Lying is bad. FUD is bad. I hate both. I'm not sure where you got the impression that I some how advocate the use of FUD, becasue I DON'T. I was just making a point that FUD can shrink the future user base of Linux, which may not be a good thing.
Good PR showing the good aspects of Linux is a good thing and is not FUD.
There was a guy who had corneal replacement when he was middle aged. He could see when he was very young, but lost his sight later. So they did the corneal transplant and he could see, but it wasen't all perfect. His depth perception was ALL messed up. At the hospital on the 5th floor or higher he looked out the window and was asked what the distance was. He said "not far" remarking that he thought he could touch the ground with his hand. Soo the brain had to readjust. Eventually this guy (mabye not same guy movie is based off of) got really depressed. He sat in his house and was disgusted with how disorderly and dirty everything was. He had envisioned it all being perfect while being blind. He eventually committed suicide.
I really hope Stevie Wonder's procedure works well and that he regains some sight. Good luck and God bless dude.
Marketing (or FUD) makes a huge difference, even when what the marketing people say is total crap. Talk is cheap but it does sell products, whether you're talking crap about your competitors or your bragging about your own product.
Its true that Linux will continue to improve whether its accepted by PHBs or not, but without good PR less people know about it.
One large software company that I can think of has successfully used FUD several times to beat out other software packages that where far superior. Linux is different than those other companies, as you said, we don't go out of business if we get ignored, but less people reap the benefits out there.
Imagine how much better the computing world would be today if we all used computers with software that didn't stink.
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as mentioned in the subject title.. What do you want? A rainbow-colored window?
Heck no! Just seeing that little window picture-thing gives me intestinal cramps.
I like the graphic style for OpenBSD 2.5 much better than the one used for 2.6 (or the other cartoon ones from the past.) The cartoon look seems to lower its credibility with PHBs and other people you have to deal with. I want to promote OpenBSD as much a possible, as a 'professionl-like' in quality to new users to BSD or open source software in general. Just my personal preference. I'm sure a million of you disagree with me (and will violoently tell me), but does anyone out there agree with me?
[humor]Karma Whore!! Thats a new Slashdot term we must remember. Somebody make note of this, because its going to end up in the/. or hacker's dictionary or something like that./. creates a new term![/humor]
Maybe in future models, it will... plug into an IP port, download posts to your favorite newsgroups, then follow you around reciting the postings using text-to-speech.
[humor] The way how some of the/. posts can make me so angry... I'd only end up kicking the crap out of that poor aibo receiting posts. [/humor]
Maybe he means that the term "Open Source" should have been successfully trademarked so someone could enforce some rules about what is really Open Source.
This is exactly politicians need to stay out of the final decisions on this case, because they're out for money, from the companies, and popularity points from the morons who've never read a single line from the Judge's findings of fact. They're not concerned with justice. Leave final justice decisions to government's justice branch. Leave the executive branch out. Mind your own business Gore.
I agree with you on the part about the Russians needing us, and we needing them in WWII. Millions of Russians died as you said defending their homelands. Most of our soldiers died on foreign land. I know quite abit about the battles in Russia. I distinctly remember learning about the loudspeakers the Russians set up in one area which repeated endless every minute or so the phrase "Another German is dead" because the Germans we're faring poorly in the miserable conditions. My knowledge of history may be more complete than some others, but I really have trouble beleiving that the average person over the age of 25 doesn't know much about WWII history. I hope I'm not wrong, but I'm try to be optimistic. Then again, some guy in my high-school (which taugh Russian history) couldn't find the Pacific Ocean on the map, after living in California his whole life.
Anyways, O'reilly's comparason between Microsoft and WWII can certainly stir up some emotions can't it. Comparing it to a battle is appropriate, but when you attach it to a specific war which changed so many lives, it seems a little too much. Still I think we need to be "on guard" against Microsoft, as the Internet is going to be so important to the future.
So who's Russia? In a typically American* view of history, O'Reilly ignores that.
Typical? Is that why cold war hungover ours heads? Because we ignored them and their history? Is that why it was a requirement at my high-school to study Russian/Soviet history and politics? I don't think there is a "typical" American anyways. Not anymore.
Qwest has their fiber-optic lines setup so you don't need to dig them up to replace them. They just yank them out of the conduit. They have 2 conduits set up, one is full right now, the other is empty (if I recall), so they can string the fiber in it, with no digging up the lines.
Older companies like AT&T have to do more work to redo their fiber lines.
BTW, a post further down the line here there is a post which implies that Lucent makes fiber-optic lines for sale. I know they do optical research, but Corning makes the majority of the optical lines sold. Corning's symbol is GLW for interested investors.
Yep. I think we're in agreement on the major issues. I'm not willing to knee-jerk either. I can see your point about the general./ user who strongly disklikes NDA's, and patents, and then want to know whats wrong with a professor having a right to their work. I don't think I fall in that camp.
I do know that the professor's university, in this case, the Regents of the University of California owns his or her research and obviously then students can't own it (the IP) either, but the professor receives full credit for it.
I do believe that student notes, which are a generally a paraphrase of the lecture, not verbatim, is/are property of the student. If its verbatim...
The notesharing system is very important to the educational system, as you said. I really hope that these new internet notes-archive businesses won't inadvertantly destroy it too. As long as its a general paraphrase, ok, which, leaves all kinds of room for the lawyers to work on whats fair game and whats not.
One thing is for sure: If the Regents were to coming knocking my door to claim my notes from my undergrad career, I'm going to be pretty darn upset.
Please keep in mind the UCLA is a public institution of higher learning, with the goal to educate, not hoard information. The taxpayers and students are paying money to receive an education. They do not sign non-disclosure agreements regarding their notes or the professors lectures. Perhaps, as others have noted on this discussion, that the universities or professors are concerned that they will be embarrassed by the contents of the notes, which may reflect poorly on the professor and the university. These professors already undergo peer-review, and integral part of the university process, so I'm not sure why they should or could be ashamed of their lectures.
Also you made a comments which I would like to directly reply to: You claim that college professors are the most "out of touch" people on the face of the earth. Can you "prove" they're even out of touch--let alone one of the most "out of touch" groups?"
Read through this discussion. You'll find alot of us who have at least 4 years or more of experience dealing with professors. Some people I've spoken directly with feel they're definitely out of touch with their surrounding communities, calling the university a country-club for socialists. Personal political beliefs may impact your beliefs here though.
You also ask:"What law says students can do whatever they want with their notes?"
More likely, a better question would be, which you allude to is, what law or laws prevents them from distributing their notes?
Just to make things ironic I will now post this notice informing all journalists that I must be contacted first to be qouted outside of this Slashdot discussion.
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My wife knows very little about l0pht, only the 3 or 4 sentances I told her about them before the interview started. After the l0pht story finished she commented that ABCnews did a crappy job explaining l0pht's purpose(s) if what I said was true. (and all I said is they're like a lab, that goes down to the hardware store, buys the dead-bolts and locks, and then runs tests on them and publishes the findings.)
I normally don't watch his show, so I normally don't know what he says about most movies.
However I had a great time last night watching him and his co-host (I guess he has a different one each week from some big paper from accross the US). He and his co-host rarely agreed on anything and had opinions as different as night and day. His expressions were great when he disagreed with her, it was hilarious - clown like.
If it was a shipping mix-up, then it wasen't a crime.... so why was the NYPD called in? This UPS crap has happened to me before. They just ask for the box back and then they give you the intended shipment.
Just for you info...
Ebert and his co-host gave bicentenial man two thumbs down. They felt the first hour was good and the last hour was too depressing, as all the humans die off. His co-host was saying they over-emphasized the human death part and forgot the whole part in the middle called life, which made it a rotten movie for children.
I'm sure if you just want to see a neat sci-fi idea its probably ok, but I haven't seen the movie myself though. If you disagree with Ebert and his co-host please don't call me stupid. I'm just the messenger.
We should be able to admit problems with the OS and not be labled a troll, no matter what the OS is.
This is how problems get attention and get fixed, with lots of different solutions coming about from it.
..."Abby something.."
"You mean to tell me I put an ABNORMAL BRAIN in a 7 foot tall monster?!!"
Young frankenstein was wonderful.
If they can create life, can they make bacteria suited to do work for us (even better than the modified bacteria they use now to clean up oil spills)? Like can they make bacteria that fight other negative bacteria?
There is another aspect to consider regarding your rights (as far as US law is concerned) -as alot of people are upset about lost privacy and lost freedom.
If the cameras are monitoring you on private property (say in the parking lot of the grocery store) and they have made an effort to notify the people on the private property (a simple sign) that they're being monitored then your legal rights to privacy are pretty much gone. Its very similar to bank's current set-ups.
If a group wants to monitor the security of their property your rights don't mean much.
This is just something to think about. I'm not saying I support it don't support it. Just wanted to remind you some of our rights disappear on private yet publicly accessed property.
The guy I was talking about isn't the guy the movie is based then if what you're saying is correct.
They guy I was talking about I learned in a psychology (biopsych) course on optics/the eye, which was two years ago, which was before the movie you're talking about. We were learning about how the brain's involvement percieving visual information. Interesting case study.
Lying is bad. FUD is bad. I hate both. I'm not sure where you got the impression that I some how advocate the use of FUD, becasue I DON'T. I was just making a point that FUD can shrink the future user base of Linux, which may not be a good thing.
Good PR showing the good aspects of Linux is a good thing and is not FUD.
Stevie Wonder has a condition called Retinitis_pigmentosa. More info on the condition can be found here.
Its a condition that affects the retina, the back of the eye where the optical nerves lie.
Here's some more info and a picture of an affected retina.
There was a guy who had corneal replacement when he was middle aged. He could see when he was very young, but lost his sight later. So they did the corneal transplant and he could see, but it wasen't all perfect. His depth perception was ALL messed up. At the hospital on the 5th floor or higher he looked out the window and was asked what the distance was. He said "not far" remarking that he thought he could touch the ground with his hand. Soo the brain had to readjust. Eventually this guy (mabye not same guy movie is based off of) got really depressed. He sat in his house and was disgusted with how disorderly and dirty everything was. He had envisioned it all being perfect while being blind. He eventually committed suicide.
I really hope Stevie Wonder's procedure works well and that he regains some sight. Good luck and God bless dude.
Marketing (or FUD) makes a huge difference, even when what the marketing people say is total crap. Talk is cheap but it does sell products, whether you're talking crap about your competitors or your bragging about your own product.
Its true that Linux will continue to improve whether its accepted by PHBs or not, but without good PR less people know about it.
One large software company that I can think of has successfully used FUD several times to beat out other software packages that where far superior. Linux is different than those other companies, as you said, we don't go out of business if we get ignored, but less people reap the benefits out there.
Imagine how much better the computing world would be today if we all used computers with software that didn't stink.
as mentioned in the subject title..
What do you want? A rainbow-colored window?
Heck no! Just seeing that little window picture-thing gives me intestinal cramps.
Did you RTFM grit-pouring-person? It may truly get even better if you follow the details specifically laid out in the FM (the manual).
Thank you for your question. Please drive up to the next window.
...By the way this is supposed to be a stab at humor. Oh and by the way grit-person, have you ever thought about getting counseling?
I like the graphic style for OpenBSD 2.5 much better than the one used for 2.6 (or the other cartoon ones from the past.)
The cartoon look seems to lower its credibility with PHBs and other people you have to deal with.
I want to promote OpenBSD as much a possible, as a 'professionl-like' in quality to new users to BSD or open source software in general.
Just my personal preference. I'm sure a million of you disagree with me (and will violoently tell me), but does anyone out there agree with me?
[humor]Karma Whore!! Thats a new Slashdot term we must remember. Somebody make note of this, because its going to end up in the /. or hacker's dictionary or something like that. /. creates a new term![/humor]
Maybe in future models, it will... plug into an IP port, download posts to your favorite newsgroups, then follow you around reciting the postings using text-to-speech.
/. posts can make me so angry... I'd only end up kicking the crap out of that poor aibo receiting posts.
[humor]
The way how some of the
[/humor]
Using a graphite foundation rather than a concrete foundation (like we use in the West) was a bad idea.
Graphite burns much more readily than concrete, although you can get concrete to burn...
Maybe he means that the term "Open Source" should have been successfully trademarked so someone could enforce some rules about what is really Open Source.
You hit the nail right on the head.
This is exactly politicians need to stay out of the final decisions on this case, because they're out for money, from the companies, and popularity points from the morons who've never read a single line from the Judge's findings of fact. They're not concerned with justice. Leave final justice decisions to government's justice branch. Leave the executive branch out. Mind your own business Gore.
I agree with you on the part about the Russians needing us, and we needing them in WWII. Millions of Russians died as you said defending their homelands. Most of our soldiers died on foreign land. I know quite abit about the battles in Russia. I distinctly remember learning about the loudspeakers the Russians set up in one area which repeated endless every minute or so the phrase "Another German is dead" because the Germans we're faring poorly in the miserable conditions. My knowledge of history may be more complete than some others, but I really have trouble beleiving that the average person over the age of 25 doesn't know much about WWII history. I hope I'm not wrong, but I'm try to be optimistic. Then again, some guy in my high-school (which taugh Russian history) couldn't find the Pacific Ocean on the map, after living in California his whole life.
Anyways, O'reilly's comparason between Microsoft and WWII can certainly stir up some emotions can't it. Comparing it to a battle is appropriate, but when you attach it to a specific war which changed so many lives, it seems a little too much. Still I think we need to be "on guard" against Microsoft, as the Internet is going to be so important to the future.
So who's Russia? In a typically American* view of history, O'Reilly ignores that.
Typical? Is that why cold war hungover ours heads? Because we ignored them and their history? Is that why it was a requirement at my high-school to study Russian/Soviet history and politics?
I don't think there is a "typical" American anyways. Not anymore.
Qwest has their fiber-optic lines setup so you don't need to dig them up to replace them. They just yank them out of the conduit. They have 2 conduits set up, one is full right now, the other is empty (if I recall), so they can string the fiber in it, with no digging up the lines.
Older companies like AT&T have to do more work to redo their fiber lines.
BTW, a post further down the line here there is a post which implies that Lucent makes fiber-optic lines for sale. I know they do optical research, but Corning makes the majority of the optical lines sold. Corning's symbol is GLW for interested investors.
Yep. I think we're in agreement on the major issues. I'm not willing to knee-jerk either. ./ user who strongly disklikes NDA's, and patents, and then want to know whats wrong with a professor having a right to their work. I don't think I fall in that camp.
I can see your point about the general
I do know that the professor's university, in this case, the Regents of the University of California owns his or her research and obviously then students can't own it (the IP) either, but the professor receives full credit for it.
I do believe that student notes, which are a generally a paraphrase of the lecture, not verbatim, is/are property of the student. If its verbatim...
The notesharing system is very important to the educational system, as you said. I really hope that these new internet notes-archive businesses won't inadvertantly destroy it too. As long as its a general paraphrase, ok, which, leaves all kinds of room for the lawyers to work on whats fair game and whats not.
One thing is for sure: If the Regents were to coming knocking my door to claim my notes from my undergrad career, I'm going to be pretty darn upset.
Please keep in mind the UCLA is a public institution of higher learning, with the goal to educate, not hoard information.
The taxpayers and students are paying money to receive an education. They do not sign non-disclosure agreements regarding their notes or the professors lectures. Perhaps, as others have noted on this discussion, that the universities or professors are concerned that they will be embarrassed by the contents of the notes, which may reflect poorly on the professor and the university. These professors already undergo peer-review, and integral part of the university process, so I'm not sure why they should or could be ashamed of their lectures.
Also you made a comments which I would like to directly reply to:
You claim that college professors are the most "out of touch" people on the face of the earth. Can you "prove" they're even out of touch--let alone one of the most "out of touch" groups?"
Read through this discussion. You'll find alot of us who have at least 4 years or more of experience dealing with professors. Some people I've spoken directly with feel they're definitely out of touch with their surrounding communities, calling the university a country-club for socialists. Personal political beliefs may impact your beliefs here though.
You also ask:"What law says students can do whatever they want with their notes?"
More likely, a better question would be, which you allude to is, what law or laws prevents them from distributing their notes?
Just to make things ironic I will now post this notice informing all journalists that I must be contacted first to be qouted outside of this Slashdot discussion.