Here in New Zealand we had/Have a similar problem, two main parties. For a long time we had a first past the post electoral system where by the party that gains more than half the electorates won the election.
This lead to many elections where the winnig party actually got less votes than the other major party which kind of pissed people off. So after many years we adopted our present system, it's not perfect but has changed the face of politics.
We have 120 electorates, when we vote we cast two votes, one for the person we want to represent our electorate in paliment and the other for the party we want to represent us in paliment. Strange? Yes.
What happens isfor the electorate vote the person with the most votes wins, for the party vote, these are talied up and the percentage of votes a party gets increases the number of seats they get. A party must get at least 5% of the vote to get a seat, or win an electorate seat outright. There are 60 electorates, the other 120 members being decided by the percentage of the party vote.
two elections ago a vote for other than the two eveils was a wasted vote, now I am able to vote for a minor party (and did, they got pased the 5% and we now have a dedecate green voice in parliment).
It's not perfect, but it is better than the previous option where many people like myself did not bother to vote, the two main parties not really being what we wanted. Instead of two parties in parliment we now have betwen 5-7
Alos, our government is a coaliation between two of the parties, the jurry is still out as to weather this is a good thing or not.
How about a new progect to map the path of comets and asteroids in our solar system. It's only a mater of time before something really big hits us, the more time we have to plan for it the better our chances...
The only problem of course is there would be no money in it, I think to many people are more interested in the mighty dollar than what might actually be important.
Forget about freeing Start office. I want to see the Corel guys bite the bullet.
They are going down the tubes, they know it, we know it. Before the money men come in and try to salvage (ie sell off) all they can I would like to see them gpl all thier software
Kind of like a last stand against the enemy, knowing that thier death might allow the battle to be won, for theire fellows to win the day...
Unfortunatley I belive they really don't care about the idea of OpenSource. Rather it's just another advertisement for them, and likely they would rather thier software die with them than give it away!
Most people replying seem to think that we as a species have not been recording our history for long enough to notice evolution happening.
Thats crap, Evolution of the human species only stoped last century. People who could not have survied childhood 50 to 100 years ago are now haveing children or grandchildren with the same genetic problems.
Lesser problems abound also, like those able to breed but not smart enough to realise that thier wage can't support more than a couple of children!
Before we go on fixing the human species we should learn how to manage it, and it's environment.
"Where Wizards Stay Up Late : The Origins of the Internet" is a good read.
It begins in the lat 50's of all places and trackes the internet upto the 90's.
What I found most interesting was the pushing all the early geeks did for the connection of thier Machines and when it finally happened they did not know what to do with it....
On the Monday Morning after the ILOVEYOU gig I sent out an HTML email titled NOONELOVESME. The design being to look like the ILOVEYOU virus. It included a little VBS prog that played a game of connect 4 (Stolen from the M$ web page...)
Despite the media attention of the previous 3 days only one person bothered to Phone me and ask what it was before opeening the e-mail and playing the game!
Acording to MS Word, and it's nifty inovative thesuras (SP?) inovative is like a feature, or a higlight, specilatity is also an option.
I always thought innovation was comming up with some thing new and exciting but it seems I am wrong. This also means that MS new Media player really is innovative, one of it's featuers being the ability to look like an Apple quicktime player...
Also, running a VBscript in an email is highlight of outlook, yet another innovation. But I think the most innovative piece is surely outlooks specialtiy, running third party virus experiments...
And of course if the FBI is investigating you they are just going to hand you a piece of paper telling you that Officer Flintstone is parked in a red ford at the end of the street!
I can just see it now. News papers around the world will report on how a supper rich nice guy is giving it all away - out of a desire to do something for humanity...
Are the current Problems the result or of the package system of the pakager?
I have only experienced RPM's and find upgrades to existing packages can often install in a different directory. In particular when I upgrade from the standard RedHat RPM's to some generated by the software authors (eg E or Gnome) I get bit's of the old version left arround.
The problem is worse if I use a tarball after an RPM. I have compiled, installed then run only get the old RPM version when I was expecting the tarball to install in the same DIR.
Perhapse the answer is more standardised install guides like the linux directory structure I have heard about. If tarballs and RPM's, Deb's etc all installed the same package in the same place every time then all we need is a generic interface along the lines of Gnorpm.
Here in New Zealand we had some DNA problems last year. In one case a man was wrongly convicted of a crime (rape of a little girl) despite being in a different city when it happned.
Essentially the jury belived that the DNA test was 100% accurate and that there fore the man, and all the witnesses (all of them) were lying.
I can understand that, when you have a dodgy looking normal Joe charged by the Police force, repectable scientest types stating how accurate the tests are etc etc then poor old Joe is scrwed.
The sad thing was the people doing the DNA tests F%&#D up. Further tests (after a couple of years in jail) proved that this man wasn't the Rapist!
Ok, so they have a lartge database of links. These links point to pages that were online once, and may in fact be on line now.
So! The web has grown. But it's grown like an algee (SP?) across a fish pond. Some of it is usefull (for fish food) but most of it's a waste of space. An example, I have been looking all day for deck plans for the Vasa with out luck.
Plenty of mediteranina cruise liners with deck plans. It's the same for most searches (unless you are looking for porn, good strike rate there)...
1 billion pages, my local library is more offten a better source of information... Usenet is more flames and spam than usefull chatter. The Net is becoming a has been, the golden age has past us allready, sure video and audio streeming seem cool, but I already have a TV and stereo. What I want is a world class library, free and at my fingertips.
It's posible that with all the money they are not making they realise that doom is at hand.
Knowing this, and perhapse being more pissed at Microsoft than we think they are Corel is giving away what little money it has in the hopes that the fight will continue?
Why not, if they do make a come back (with the help of linux) their investments will pay back a lot more than the cost. If they go broke (and assuming the investments are strucured as giveaways, not shares in the startups) then they might have funded the resitance army for years to come....
Fails once every 9 years, hardware only I suspect.
That I could believe, except I am a cynic today. If Intel starts to make boxes that last 9 or 10 years without fail, 4 or 5 years from now they will go broke due to lack of sales. This makes me suggest a decimal place error, maybe 770 hours or about 1 month....
It's like washing machines, when my folks got married they brought a washing machine, it lasted 20 years, they have had 2 more since then... The company that makes them (over here in New Zealand) is many many times more profitable than it was, yet it's product is arguably a worse product despite being cheaper to run and having fancy automatic features.
I havn't checked to story yet (/.ed) but I wonder if the world needs another OS.
Currently we are strugling to get Linux taken seriously (people in the lame NT world think an app runnig on RedHat needs to be ported to Debian!) even though Linux appears to be out selling the Mac, quiet an achievement for something that can be had for free...
So, with Linux approaching real market share, do we want to fragment, not into distros, but free OS'es? I have seen requests to Open the Amiga OS...
In my view Linux need shelp to push on, we need at least 35% share, and no more unless we want to become the mainstream. I like being a well know underdog, thats why I can't programm on windows:o)
Not getting in to the Amiga is the best every debate, I reckon that it was/is the coolest machine ever.
Things like the Guru Meditation. While other computers had ther lx234I chips, the Amiga had Paula and Denise chips. PC's had Very Large intergrated chips, Amiga had Fat chips (Fat Agnus for example).
It was like they were computers built by real people for real people, not machines built by tech heads for accountants!.
Still, Linux could take the coolest crown yet...
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There is a lot of misunderstanding in the Windows World about the different Distros.
In my Place of employment people think Software has to be re-writen for each distro, or at the least re-compiled. They get this idea from industry magazines that mindlessly push the M$ FUD.
I try to point out that it's no worse than software differences between NT and 95 etc, but that at least I can re-compile if I need to...
I read on the Gnome site that they are working on (maybe finished now) a Registry for Gnome.
Do Gnome users need this, Will it open us up to the same problems windows has? Will our software just fail to work after install other software, and will Linux then develope Gnome Worms.
Imagine the evil, an e-mail that changes the Lilo default to boot windoze!
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Here in New Zealand we had/Have a similar problem, two main parties. For a long time we had a first past the post electoral system where by the party that gains more than half the electorates won the election.
This lead to many elections where the winnig party actually got less votes than the other major party which kind of pissed people off. So after many years we adopted our present system, it's not perfect but has changed the face of politics.
We have 120 electorates, when we vote we cast two votes, one for the person we want to represent our electorate in paliment and the other for the party we want to represent us in paliment. Strange? Yes.
What happens isfor the electorate vote the person with the most votes wins, for the party vote, these are talied up and the percentage of votes a party gets increases the number of seats they get. A party must get at least 5% of the vote to get a seat, or win an electorate seat outright. There are 60 electorates, the other 120 members being decided by the percentage of the party vote.
two elections ago a vote for other than the two eveils was a wasted vote, now I am able to vote for a minor party (and did, they got pased the 5% and we now have a dedecate green voice in parliment).
It's not perfect, but it is better than the previous option where many people like myself did not bother to vote, the two main parties not really being what we wanted. Instead of two parties in parliment we now have betwen 5-7
Alos, our government is a coaliation between two of the parties, the jurry is still out as to weather this is a good thing or not.
How about a new progect to map the path of comets and asteroids in our solar system. It's only a mater of time before something really big hits us, the more time we have to plan for it the better our chances...
The only problem of course is there would be no money in it, I think to many people are more interested in the mighty dollar than what might actually be important.
Forget about freeing Start office. I want to see the Corel guys bite the bullet.
They are going down the tubes, they know it, we know it. Before the money men come in and try to salvage (ie sell off) all they can I would like to see them gpl all thier software
Kind of like a last stand against the enemy, knowing that thier death might allow the battle to be won, for theire fellows to win the day...
Unfortunatley I belive they really don't care about the idea of OpenSource. Rather it's just another advertisement for them, and likely they would rather thier software die with them than give it away!
Not with the post it's self, but...
Most people replying seem to think that we as a species have not been recording our history for long enough to notice evolution happening.
Thats crap, Evolution of the human species only stoped last century. People who could not have survied childhood 50 to 100 years ago are now haveing children or grandchildren with the same genetic problems.
Lesser problems abound also, like those able to breed but not smart enough to realise that thier wage can't support more than a couple of children!
Before we go on fixing the human species we should learn how to manage it, and it's environment.
"Where Wizards Stay Up Late : The Origins of the Internet" is a good read.
It begins in the lat 50's of all places and trackes the internet upto the 90's.
What I found most interesting was the pushing all the early geeks did for the connection of thier Machines and when it finally happened they did not know what to do with it....
Im not, but was surprised.
On the Monday Morning after the ILOVEYOU gig I sent out an HTML email titled NOONELOVESME. The design being to look like the ILOVEYOU virus. It included a little VBS prog that played a game of connect 4 (Stolen from the M$ web page...)
Despite the media attention of the previous 3 days only one person bothered to Phone me and ask what it was before opeening the e-mail and playing the game!
Acording to MS Word, and it's nifty inovative thesuras (SP?) inovative is like a feature, or a higlight, specilatity is also an option.
I always thought innovation was comming up with some thing new and exciting but it seems I am wrong. This also means that MS new Media player really is innovative, one of it's featuers being the ability to look like an Apple quicktime player...
Also, running a VBscript in an email is highlight of outlook, yet another innovation. But I think the most innovative piece is surely outlooks specialtiy, running third party virus experiments...
And of course if the FBI is investigating you they are just going to hand you a piece of paper telling you that Officer Flintstone is parked in a red ford at the end of the street!
I can just see it now. News papers around the world will report on how a supper rich nice guy is giving it all away - out of a desire to do something for humanity...
Are the current Problems the result or of the package system of the pakager?
I have only experienced RPM's and find upgrades to existing packages can often install in a different directory. In particular when I upgrade from the standard RedHat RPM's to some generated by the software authors (eg E or Gnome) I get bit's of the old version left arround.
The problem is worse if I use a tarball after an RPM. I have compiled, installed then run only get the old RPM version when I was expecting the tarball to install in the same DIR.
Perhapse the answer is more standardised install guides like the linux directory structure I have heard about. If tarballs and RPM's, Deb's etc all installed the same package in the same place every time then all we need is a generic interface along the lines of Gnorpm.
Here in New Zealand we had some DNA problems last year. In one case a man was wrongly convicted of a crime (rape of a little girl) despite being in a different city when it happned.
Essentially the jury belived that the DNA test was 100% accurate and that there fore the man, and all the witnesses (all of them) were lying.
I can understand that, when you have a dodgy looking normal Joe charged by the Police force, repectable scientest types stating how accurate the tests are etc etc then poor old Joe is scrwed.
The sad thing was the people doing the DNA tests F%&#D up. Further tests (after a couple of years in jail) proved that this man wasn't the Rapist!
Ok, so they have a lartge database of links. These links point to pages that were online once, and may in fact be on line now.
So! The web has grown. But it's grown like an algee (SP?) across a fish pond. Some of it is usefull (for fish food) but most of it's a waste of space. An example, I have been looking all day for deck plans for the Vasa with out luck.
Plenty of mediteranina cruise liners with deck plans. It's the same for most searches (unless you are looking for porn, good strike rate there)...
1 billion pages, my local library is more offten a better source of information... Usenet is more flames and spam than usefull chatter. The Net is becoming a has been, the golden age has past us allready, sure video and audio streeming seem cool, but I already have a TV and stereo. What I want is a world class library, free and at my fingertips.
It's posible that with all the money they are not making they realise that doom is at hand.
Knowing this, and perhapse being more pissed at Microsoft than we think they are Corel is giving away what little money it has in the hopes that the fight will continue?
Why not, if they do make a come back (with the help of linux) their investments will pay back a lot more than the cost. If they go broke (and assuming the investments are strucured as giveaways, not shares in the startups) then they might have funded the resitance army for years to come....
Fails once every 9 years, hardware only I suspect.
That I could believe, except I am a cynic today. If Intel starts to make boxes that last 9 or 10 years without fail, 4 or 5 years from now they will go broke due to lack of sales. This makes me suggest a decimal place error, maybe 770 hours or about 1 month....
It's like washing machines, when my folks got married they brought a washing machine, it lasted 20 years, they have had 2 more since then... The company that makes them (over here in New Zealand) is many many times more profitable than it was, yet it's product is arguably a worse product despite being cheaper to run and having fancy automatic features.
I havn't checked to story yet (/.ed) but I wonder if the world needs another OS.
:o)
Currently we are strugling to get Linux taken seriously (people in the lame NT world think an app runnig on RedHat needs to be ported to Debian!) even though Linux appears to be out selling the Mac, quiet an achievement for something that can be had for free...
So, with Linux approaching real market share, do we want to fragment, not into distros, but free OS'es? I have seen requests to Open the Amiga OS...
In my view Linux need shelp to push on, we need at least 35% share, and no more unless we want to become the mainstream. I like being a well know underdog, thats why I can't programm on windows
Not getting in to the Amiga is the best every debate, I reckon that it was/is the coolest machine ever.
Things like the Guru Meditation. While other computers had ther lx234I chips, the Amiga had Paula and Denise chips. PC's had Very Large intergrated chips, Amiga had Fat chips (Fat Agnus for example).
It was like they were computers built by real people for real people, not machines built by tech heads for accountants!.
Still, Linux could take the coolest crown yet...
Try these dates, 1-11-1999, 3-11-1999, 3-3-1997
Any one see a pattern here or is it just me.
There is a lot of misunderstanding in the Windows World about the different Distros.
In my Place of employment people think Software has to be re-writen for each distro, or at the least re-compiled. They get this idea from industry magazines that mindlessly push the M$ FUD.
I try to point out that it's no worse than software differences between NT and 95 etc, but that at least I can re-compile if I need to...
I read on the Gnome site that they are working on (maybe finished now) a Registry for Gnome.
Do Gnome users need this, Will it open us up to the same problems windows has? Will our software just fail to work after install other software, and will Linux then develope Gnome Worms.
Imagine the evil, an e-mail that changes the Lilo default to boot windoze!