Not really an apt analogy. Capitalism is about mutually beneficial voluntary transactions. Stealing does not fit into that category. Speaking of stealing, that's why avoiding taxes isn't applicable to shoplifting because it would be more akin to keeping a fake wallet in an easily accessible pocket with a few bucks in it for pick pockets where you keep most of your money in your shoe. You are preventing the thieves from taking all your money while giving them enough to think they got away with something.
So if you openly admit it's a double tax since every dollar of profit a company makes gets taxed eventually again, then why shouldn't the corporate tax be zero?
Are you telling me you don't take any deductions or credits? No standard deduction? Do you pay a use tax in your state for all the online purchases you made and did not pay sales tax on? That's not even legal, yet most of us do it to avoid taxes. Every company should avoid paying every dime of taxes they can. It's the only defense we have against government growth short of a revolution.
Even better, apply it to sales instead of income and make it easier as then you can see the direct effect of taxes at every transaction rather than hiding it in several layers of transactions. See http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer
I'd drink the effluent from a waste water treatment plant. It's clean... Cleaner than the water in the river it's being discharged into. In fact, if it weren't for squeamish people like you, we'd save a ton of money chlorinating that effluent and pumping it right back into the drinking water supply, but instead we contaminate it by putting it back in nature and sending it downstream to the next treatment plant that has to spend tons of money just to get all of the nature filtered back out of it.
Actually most animals that are going to extinction aren't allowed to be hunted or raised for food. If we allowed people to hunt or eat pandas maybe they wouldn't be endangered... I mean bison haven't been endangered since they have started being raised on farms. Deer sure aren't hurting either.
What makes you think the whole length of recorded temperature data is long enough to be significant on the scale of climate?
Note, I'm not saying we aren't warming, just saying we haven't been recording data that long.
I'm not a warming denier, I'm a disaster denier. We have more evidence warming is better for life a on the planet than we do for actual warming yet somehow we have a consensus that warming will be a disaster. I quite frankly am enjoying the warming.
If you look at the way the votes go, I would guess only one or two senators will actually vote against this. I know Rand Paul will be at least one. We'll see if he can rally anyone else.
Christians don't see it that way. Jesus ate fish (not sure if there are accounts of him eating other meat) and fish totally doesn't count. Ask any Catholic during lent. Fish is like a get out of jail free card.
Darn it, I have to undo mod points, but it's totally worth it.
Simple, choose another airport or airline. It may inconvenience you, but would you go an extra hour away to another airport if it meant you (or someone you love) wouldn't get a frisking? Also, the law would still apply to private security agencies. It would be illegal for them to touch your genitals without your consent just like it is for everyone but the TSA.
With the TSA, it doesn't matter where you go. The government has a monopoly on force.
I completely agree about CO2, however CO2 is the least harmful emission from volcanoes. Particulate and SO2 are the real bastards that volcanoes spew. In fact, aren't volcanoes usually to blame for cooling, not warming?
Exactly... It would be much cheaper to be able to order a custom car (not one they had to find in stock somewhere) specifically for you over this thing called the internet and then you could either have it shipped to your house or pick it up at the factory. With you being able to buy everything else online, why the hell shouldn't you be able to order a brand new car online?
THIS... So much THIS. In all the debates about climate change, we never talk about the fact that climate will never be constant. It WILL get colder and it WILL get warmer. We need as a species to be able to adapt to both to survive in the long term. In the near term, we are much better adapted to survive on a warmer planet rather than a colder one, so if we believe we are so powerful that we can affect the climate, shouldn't we be trying to make it warmer?
Those pesky ID requirements for cashing a check, watching a rated R movie, purchasing alcohol, spray paint, super glue, tobacco, or allergy medicine, getting a job, driving, renting a car, staying in a hotel, etc. Those are all in Republican states too right? Who are these people who can get through life without any ID? I mean Ohio has ID laws, but heck you can bring in a paycheck, bill, or bank statement. Anything remotely official looking with your name an address on it is considered ID. Is this really weeding out legitimate Democrat voters?
Oh really, so the ideal tax rate is 100% then? The Laffer Curve has not been refuted. The point of maximum revenue may be under dispute. However, the point of maximum revenue may not be the ideal point either.
Unless you believe in the Laffer Curve in which case cutting taxes can RAISE revenue. But regardless of your tax stance, you cannot balance the budget without cuts. AND REAL CUTS, not cuts to proposed increases.
"It's much better to give a helping hand than to kick a lying man."
Too bad you have to kick men to "give" a "helping" hand. If we could just gift people prosperity at no cost to society we'd all be happy and eat candy all day. But here in the real world there is no such thing as a free lunch. Politicians HELP people in need by stealing from people.
First of all, Somalia is NOT libertarian in any way. And if you want an example of a libertarian government, I suggest you look at the United States of American until maybe the mid 1800s.
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Not really an apt analogy. Capitalism is about mutually beneficial voluntary transactions. Stealing does not fit into that category. Speaking of stealing, that's why avoiding taxes isn't applicable to shoplifting because it would be more akin to keeping a fake wallet in an easily accessible pocket with a few bucks in it for pick pockets where you keep most of your money in your shoe. You are preventing the thieves from taking all your money while giving them enough to think they got away with something.
So if you openly admit it's a double tax since every dollar of profit a company makes gets taxed eventually again, then why shouldn't the corporate tax be zero?
Are you telling me you don't take any deductions or credits? No standard deduction? Do you pay a use tax in your state for all the online purchases you made and did not pay sales tax on? That's not even legal, yet most of us do it to avoid taxes. Every company should avoid paying every dime of taxes they can. It's the only defense we have against government growth short of a revolution.
Even better, apply it to sales instead of income and make it easier as then you can see the direct effect of taxes at every transaction rather than hiding it in several layers of transactions. See http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer
I'd drink the effluent from a waste water treatment plant. It's clean... Cleaner than the water in the river it's being discharged into. In fact, if it weren't for squeamish people like you, we'd save a ton of money chlorinating that effluent and pumping it right back into the drinking water supply, but instead we contaminate it by putting it back in nature and sending it downstream to the next treatment plant that has to spend tons of money just to get all of the nature filtered back out of it.
Actually most animals that are going to extinction aren't allowed to be hunted or raised for food. If we allowed people to hunt or eat pandas maybe they wouldn't be endangered... I mean bison haven't been endangered since they have started being raised on farms. Deer sure aren't hurting either.
What makes you think the whole length of recorded temperature data is long enough to be significant on the scale of climate?
Note, I'm not saying we aren't warming, just saying we haven't been recording data that long.
I'm not a warming denier, I'm a disaster denier. We have more evidence warming is better for life a on the planet than we do for actual warming yet somehow we have a consensus that warming will be a disaster. I quite frankly am enjoying the warming.
If you look at the way the votes go, I would guess only one or two senators will actually vote against this. I know Rand Paul will be at least one. We'll see if he can rally anyone else.
Does that make you a meta-shill shill? Or a meta-meta-shill?
Christians don't see it that way. Jesus ate fish (not sure if there are accounts of him eating other meat) and fish totally doesn't count. Ask any Catholic during lent. Fish is like a get out of jail free card.
Darn it, I have to undo mod points, but it's totally worth it.
Simple, choose another airport or airline. It may inconvenience you, but would you go an extra hour away to another airport if it meant you (or someone you love) wouldn't get a frisking? Also, the law would still apply to private security agencies. It would be illegal for them to touch your genitals without your consent just like it is for everyone but the TSA.
With the TSA, it doesn't matter where you go. The government has a monopoly on force.
BULLSHIT. Stop, I order you STOP!!!!
Actually Ron Paul at least opposes the TSA for BOTH reasons. He supports going back to letting airports and airlines determine security.
I completely agree about CO2, however CO2 is the least harmful emission from volcanoes. Particulate and SO2 are the real bastards that volcanoes spew. In fact, aren't volcanoes usually to blame for cooling, not warming?
Exactly... It would be much cheaper to be able to order a custom car (not one they had to find in stock somewhere) specifically for you over this thing called the internet and then you could either have it shipped to your house or pick it up at the factory. With you being able to buy everything else online, why the hell shouldn't you be able to order a brand new car online?
THIS... So much THIS. In all the debates about climate change, we never talk about the fact that climate will never be constant. It WILL get colder and it WILL get warmer. We need as a species to be able to adapt to both to survive in the long term. In the near term, we are much better adapted to survive on a warmer planet rather than a colder one, so if we believe we are so powerful that we can affect the climate, shouldn't we be trying to make it warmer?
So you are saying that our projections are horribly inaccurate?
Those pesky ID requirements for cashing a check, watching a rated R movie, purchasing alcohol, spray paint, super glue, tobacco, or allergy medicine, getting a job, driving, renting a car, staying in a hotel, etc. Those are all in Republican states too right? Who are these people who can get through life without any ID? I mean Ohio has ID laws, but heck you can bring in a paycheck, bill, or bank statement. Anything remotely official looking with your name an address on it is considered ID. Is this really weeding out legitimate Democrat voters?
Oh really, so the ideal tax rate is 100% then? The Laffer Curve has not been refuted. The point of maximum revenue may be under dispute. However, the point of maximum revenue may not be the ideal point either.
Unless you believe in the Laffer Curve in which case cutting taxes can RAISE revenue. But regardless of your tax stance, you cannot balance the budget without cuts. AND REAL CUTS, not cuts to proposed increases.
Yes because comparing a big government state to China, Cuba, and North Korea is much worse logic than comparing a libertarian state to Somalia...
"It's much better to give a helping hand than to kick a lying man."
Too bad you have to kick men to "give" a "helping" hand. If we could just gift people prosperity at no cost to society we'd all be happy and eat candy all day. But here in the real world there is no such thing as a free lunch. Politicians HELP people in need by stealing from people.
First of all, Somalia is NOT libertarian in any way. And if you want an example of a libertarian government, I suggest you look at the United States of American until maybe the mid 1800s.
You mean like this place http://goo.gl/maps/5pUhY that is built on a runway? With facilities large enough to house a B52 with room to spare? http://airpigz.com/storage/2010-december/Air_Force_Museum_B-52.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1292113924915
Not to mention Ohio is home to more famous astronauts than any other state. Neil Armstrong, John Glenn, Jim Lovell just to name a few.