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U.S. Election Day In Progress: What's Been Your Experience?

Today is Election Day in the U.S., and polls are open even in Hawaii now. The current Slashdot poll gives a snapshot of how many readers have voted or plan to vote; more rigorous and wide-based polls are easy to find. If you're taking part in today's election, what have you found? Did you or will you vote electronically, or on paper? How long did you wait to vote? Did you vote weeks ago by mail? How much time did you put into making your choices? It would be helpful if in comments you start the subject of your post with your 2-letter state abbreviation, like this: "TX - About to go get in line to push some buttons."

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  1. OH - small town, went fine by wawannem · · Score: 4, Informative

    Voted first thing this morning... Based on the number of commercials running in Ohio, and the tight margin between the candidates, I've been watching the news online expecting to see some controversy start brewing. Fortunately, I've been disappointed thusfar.

    1. Re:OH - small town, went fine by ackthpt · · Score: 1

      Voted first thing this morning... Based on the number of commercials running in Ohio, and the tight margin between the candidates, I've been watching the news online expecting to see some controversy start brewing. Fortunately, I've been disappointed thusfar.

      For living in a battleground swing state you have my deepest sympathy. It can't have been easy and you probably will feel like punching one candidate or the other (or both) in the face given the chance. Meanwhile, the utter filth and scum who are behind so much advertising have made their fat to live off of until the next presidential election cycle, which starts in about 14 hours.

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    2. Re:OH - small town, went fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MD - Baltimore City - Showed up around 7:50AM, small line in front of me. ID was fine, and machine was an electronic screen with my vote being recorded on a SIM card sort of deal that was handed to an official after I was done. Quick, painless, and controversy free (no defective check-box options).

    3. Re:OH - small town, went fine by darjen · · Score: 1

      I am from Cleveland, and let me tell you I CANNOT WAIT UNTIL THESE DAMN COMMERCIALS ARE OVER. It really is like being slapped in the face everywhere you go. I thought we might have a break after the 2010 mid terms, but I was wrong. The next round for primaries started almost immediately. I'm hoping it won't be as intense, at least for a while. BTW - I am not voting. I think it is a waste of time.

    4. Re:OH - small town, went fine by dkleinsc · · Score: 0

      OH - Cleveland suburb: Went fine, filled out a paper optical scan ballot (good work, former Sec of State Brunner!), and the only guy actually politicking at my polling place was doing so for a county judge that happened to be a friend of his.

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    5. Re:OH - small town, went fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I voted in a Columbus suburb about 8:30 at an elementary school just as the busses arrived. Single precinct, short wait to be verified. 5 voting machines. All went smoothly.

    6. Re:OH - small town, went fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you vote, the ads will stop.

    7. Re:OH - small town, went fine by weszz · · Score: 2

      tell me about it.... we've been in political attack mode for about 3 years now in WI...

      2 years ago we elected a new Governor, who the left hated, so they started talking recalls the day after he was sworn in before he even did anything. Had to wait till he was in office 1 year, then they got the recall started, went through that season, he won his recall easily, then as soon as that was over we were in the presidential stuff already...

      I can't wait until they call who the new president is in about 2-3 months so we can be done for a while...

    8. Re:OH - small town, went fine by HaZardman27 · · Score: 1

      I live in Madison and we've had the president here twice in about a month. It makes getting home after work a terrible experience, since at least one or two major roads have to be shut down. I'm so glad this is almost over!

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    9. Re:OH - small town, went fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I voted in Florida.

      Fear Me.

    10. Re:OH - small town, went fine by thomst · · Score: 1

      Voted absentee a week ago.

      That went fine.

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    11. Re:OH - small town, went fine by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      Wait, a paper ballot in Ohio, Cuyahoga County? In Portage, I was told a paper ballot was not available for me. I wonder if this varied by county or whether my local poll workers (nice ladies) or local board dropped the ball here. Great, now I've got a little digging to do...

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  2. MN- Quick and easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    In and out, kind of how I wish sex was...

    1. Re:MN- Quick and easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In and out, kind of how I wish sex was...

      Or how you dream it is?

    2. Re:MN- Quick and easy by camperdave · · Score: 3, Funny

      In and out, kind of how I wish sex was...

      I'm confused... Do you find yourself getting stuck in the "in" position?

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    3. Re:MN- Quick and easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why, is your wife that ugly?

    4. Re:MN- Quick and easy by negRo_slim · · Score: 2

      Nah, I think he can't get passed the "out" position.

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    5. Re:MN- Quick and easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of the poll workers at the station I visited this morning was a very cute girl. Any ideas how I can work some election day magic of the romantic kind? All that excitement and energy demands a release, damn it!

    6. Re:MN- Quick and easy by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      He pops early. So, less 'in' and more 'on.'

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    7. Re:MN- Quick and easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Arrive in nothing but a trench coat and attempt to vote by pushing her button,

    8. Re:MN- Quick and easy by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

      Nah. His problem was people kept voting no on his propositions.

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    9. Re:MN- Quick and easy by Kittenman · · Score: 1

      In and out, kind of how I wish sex was...

      Once every 4 years?

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  3. GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Cito · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My drivers license expired in 2005, and I never bothered getting it renewed. So I don't have a "valid ID" even though I'm on disability.

    I was turned away not allowed to vote for not having a valid id :)

    I said oh well, not like voting matters anyhow due to electoral college bullshit and went home

    1. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "I said oh well, not like voting matters anyhow due to electoral college bullshit and went home"

      I'm so glad you didn't vote. Uneducated people shouldn't vote.

    2. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      You should have checked the law before going to the polls. According to the GA Secretary of State website, you can vote with an expired driver license: http://www.sos.georgia.gov/gaphotoid/default.htm

      What IDs are acceptable?
      -Any valid state or federal government issued photo ID, including a FREE Voter ID Card issued by your county registrar's office or the Georgia Department of Driver Services (DDS)
      -A Georgia Driver's License, even if expired
      -Valid employee photo ID from any branch, department, agency, or entity of the U.S. Government, Georgia, or any county, municipality, board, authority or other entity of this state
      -Valid U.S. passport ID
      -Valid U.S. military photo ID
      -Valid tribal photo ID

    3. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you bring the expired ID with you? Georgia law says you can vote even with an expired ID. Source:

      http://www.sos.georgia.gov/gaphotoid/default.htm

    4. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you've heard the term "electoral college" used too many times and don't really understand the meaning. Your state's electoral college will vote for your state's popular vote candidate. Your vote matters as part of your state's popular vote.

    5. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I call bullshit:
      http://www.sos.georgia.gov/gaphotoid/default.htm

    6. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I said oh well, not like voting matters anyhow due to my state's decision on how to assign votes in the electoral college bullshit and went home

      FTFY

    7. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by RocketScientist · · Score: 2

      Missouri requires ID, but the types of ID they take are legion. Driver's license (even expired), water, electric, or phone bills (with your name and address), state-issued non-driver ID, CCW ID, property tax receipt. We don't require a photo ID, just some kind of ID, mostly to prove you're voting in the right place. It's pretty fair as far as I know, a good balance between preventing voter fraud and turning people away unjustly.

      State-issued non-drivers photo ID's here are like $8 by the way. Probably about what they cost to produce.

    8. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Nyder · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "I said oh well, not like voting matters anyhow due to electoral college bullshit and went home"

      I'm so glad you didn't vote. Uneducated people shouldn't vote.

      How is that any different then educated people not voting?

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    9. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you did get turned away from the polls, and you did bring a valid form of ID, and if that ID is an expired license and it is a valid form of ID, then you should file your complaint with 1-800-253-3931 or (202) 307-2767. This is the number for the Civil Rights Division’s Voting Section in Washington.

    10. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by raind · · Score: 1

      You "make your mark" doesn't work anymore.

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    11. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I ... can't believe it. Not that I'm doubting you. But that in the 21st century someone who is a US citizen, with a formerly-valid drivers license, was unable to vote is a travesty. That's not good enough?

      I hope they are keeping count of the number of people who wanted to vote but were unable to do so due to identification issues.

      I'll confess, I'm not in the USA, I'm in Canada, but here we usually get a paper registration card by mail with our name and address on it. It is sent to each address based on information that we voluntarily provide to the elections agency by checking a box on our tax return when it gets filed. This forms a list that gets checked as each person in a district votes. If we've recently moved, and therefore the list isn't up-to-date, you can bring some indication that you actually do reside in the location you've claimed. This would be some combination of government-issued ID (of almost any kind -- the list is quite long), plus something like a utility bill that shows your current address. Worst case, if you have none of those, you swear an oath and get your neighbour who does have appropriate ID to swear on the spot that you really are who you say you are and do reside at such-and-such an address. It all gets written down, you vote, and if there is any question about the validity, then it gets sorted out later. Up to and including, of course, the possibility you'll get charged with a crime if you've lied about anything. It's not hard to qualify, and yet voter fraud, while it does exist, seems to be a very very rare occurrence.

      Are other people on slashdot running into this obstacle? How many people aren't even bothering to try to vote because they figure there will be ID problems? What the hell are you people doing down there to your democracy?

    12. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      It's a winner take all system, unless the state has a 1-vote difference, his vote wouldn't have mattered.

    13. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Land of the free*

      * Valid ID required.

    14. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bring your issue to the TV news. I bet they'd love to report on it.

      About me: WA- Already voted, yesterday by mail-in ballot.
      Never received first ballot mailed out. Maybe lost in junk mail?
      Requested new ballots to be sent out.
      Received them I think on Friday.
      Finally decided for whom to vote after some phone calls Monday.
      Every vote does count. One time, I did vote in an a levy/bond measure that lost by one vote, and I'm proud to say, "I voted no." (Withholding more details to protect privacy.)

    15. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 1

      Who says he still 'has' the physical expired license?

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    16. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Cito · · Score: 2

      I did call WCTV channel 6 which is out of Tallahassee, they have received lots of complaints about this from many counties in the deep south near the Florida/Ga border.

      there is supposed to be a news report tonight about it, but they forwarded complaints to the state as well as gave numbers for us to call. I called the state number in Atlanta and filed complaint. I did have my expired ID with me, I also had my medicare card but the lady was a teenage volunteer and was already seemed short of patience and was bitching and moaning at people and long lines. Seems there was no real supervisors in the voting areas to oversee the teenage volunteers running the place.

    17. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by dmini · · Score: 2

      Very different in MD - no ID required, they just ask for name, address and date of birth; if this matches registration - you're in. Almost too lax since all this information can be mined online in many cases.

    18. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by twistedcubic · · Score: 1

      "I said oh well, not like voting matters anyhow due to electoral college bullshit and went home"

      I'm so glad you didn't vote. Uneducated people shouldn't vote.

      No. Everyone should vote. We have the right to vote, and we are not required to vote according to your "superior" position. The beauty of democracy and freedom is you get to vote for whomever, regardless of the reason. I could easily declare Republicans as "uneducated" and hence unfit to vote. But that would be stupid, right?

    19. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Imagine that all modern conveniences no longer exist. The only way you can get from town to town is by horse or on foot. If you want to get from one state to the next it's actually faster to float yourself down the Mississipi and then take a ship around to New York.

      Then there's that whole "confederation of independent states" thing.

      You aren't an American, you are a Georgian or a Pennsylvanian. Your representation at the federal level is really your state's representation at the federal level.

      Most governance happens at the state or local level.

      Plus the small states don't want to be overwhelmed and dominated by the big ones like Texas or California.

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    20. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I said oh well, not like voting matters anyhow due to electoral college bullshit and went home"

      I'm so glad you didn't vote. Uneducated people shouldn't vote.

      How is that any different then educated people not voting?

      Quoted for the irony. Ipso facto, eh?

    21. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by slinches · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Every citizen has the right to vote, but it carries the responsibility of educating yourself on the candidates/propositions. Voting without knowing what you're voting for is foolish. At best it merely deflates the value of an informed voter (random selection) and at worst you can unwittingly sway an election against your interests (likely since many ballot propositions are deceivingly worded).

      Recommending that others should vote, just to "exercise their right" isn't a noble cause and doesn't help produce a more representative government. Instead, get people to learn what's on the ballot and why they should vote, preferably with minimal personal bias.

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    22. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by X0563511 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Having no faith in the system has nothing to do with being educated or not.

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    23. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by jkauzlar · · Score: 3, Informative

      It also weeds out the elderly and other minorities. The voter ID laws are DESIGNED to weed out Obama's constituents. They laws are all in republican controlled states! Also, despite republicans' best efforts, they were unable to find a single case of an illegal immigrant trying to vote.

    24. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Golddess · · Score: 2

      That's fine if it's just one person from the entire eligible-to-vote population that abstains from voting. But what if you count everyone who did not vote because "it won't matter"?

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    25. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Your state's electoral college will vote for your state's popular vote candidate. Your vote matters as part of your state's popular vote."

      No, not really. They SHOULD follow the popular vote, but they don't have to. They can vote however they damn well please.

    26. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poster #41897405.
      When I said ballots in my comment, I meant for me and my dad.

      To Cito:
      Maybe I'm wrong for suggesting this, but don't give up. Can't you go back and request/demand to vote? I don't know if this could end up landing you in jail, but it seems immensely wrong what is happening. (This is why we need absentee/mail-in voting everywhere regardless of situation.)

      Would calling the police for them not letting you vote do anything good, even if you get arrested despite you calling?

    27. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wish we had that in WI... stupid supreme court decided it didn't want to take up the case just yet...

      so all I have to do is know ANYONE's name and address and I COULD vote for them. I don't because it is illegal and not worth the penalty, but I find it funny that the "voter fraud is illegal" billboard had to come down because it was suppressing voters by telling them fraud is illegal, as if they didn't know... maybe we should make murder is illegal ones to stop people from murdering others...

    28. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      What IDs are acceptable?
      -Any valid state or federal government issued photo ID, including a FREE Voter ID Card issued by your county registrar's office or the Georgia Department of Driver Services (DDS)
      -A Georgia Driver's License, even if expired
      -Valid employee photo ID from any branch, department, agency, or entity of the U.S. Government, Georgia, or any county, municipality, board, authority or other entity of this state
      -Valid U.S. passport ID
      -Valid U.S. military photo ID
      -Valid tribal photo ID

      It's interesting that they don't consider an ID card from Georgia Tech to be a state government-issued photo ID.

      The real scandal is how students' voting rights have been trampled in red states this year. I understand why they're trying to suppress student votes, but it's absolutely despicable.

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    29. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by aralin · · Score: 1

      Why would anyone be so stupid and vote if you are an immigrant. Let's assume that you will want to become a citizen as immigrant and one day you do. Now they find out you have voted before you became a citizen. That means you are in for at least 3 consecutive 5 year minimum sentences. Based on the way the citizenship interviews are setup. If I really wanted to risk 15 years in federal prison, I'll go and rob a bank. That is a better way to improve your standard of living than voting could ever be. Risk/reward.

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    30. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The elderly are not a minority! That's one of the major issues we have. A greater proportion of people will collect Social Security & less will pay into it.

    31. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by DriedClexler · · Score: 1

      ... *to the extent* that Obama supporters are people who somehow live their lives without needing an ID for other reasons.

      That's a good thing. Republicans shouldn't want such voters either, and if they appeal to a class of people that doesn't include them, it's to the party's credit.

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    32. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you did what in 2008?

    33. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Kurrel · · Score: 1

      This thread is stupid from the get-go. If there is any issue they bring up, you ask for a provisional ballot and fill that shit out.

      You then have more time to clear up the problem!

    34. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Kurrel · · Score: 1

      Why, then the entire state would be represented by the handful that votes on principle...and since they wouldn't collude to consensus, it would be fairer than the electoral college.

    35. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by yurtinus · · Score: 1

      Because the educated people only vote for Romney or Obama anyway... Oh wait...

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    36. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by danbert8 · · Score: 1

      Those pesky ID requirements for cashing a check, watching a rated R movie, purchasing alcohol, spray paint, super glue, tobacco, or allergy medicine, getting a job, driving, renting a car, staying in a hotel, etc. Those are all in Republican states too right? Who are these people who can get through life without any ID? I mean Ohio has ID laws, but heck you can bring in a paycheck, bill, or bank statement. Anything remotely official looking with your name an address on it is considered ID. Is this really weeding out legitimate Democrat voters?

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    37. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by nanoflower · · Score: 1

      I think it is reasonable that you student ID card doesn't count as valid ID since it doesn't have your state of residence listed. So if you could use your student ID you could be from out of state (and be paying out of state tuition) and vote in the GA election, plus you could vote in your home state. So they don't allow that form of ID to be used to vote.

      I wouldn't be surprised if that is true in all states since they face the same issue with knowing which students are actually considered residents of that state versus being out of state students attending college in the state.

    38. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by sjames · · Score: 1

      They hould havce accepted the expired license. Further, they hould have allowed you to cast a provisional ballot which would give you until Friday to preent a valid ID (somewhere else where they hopefully know the rules).

    39. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by sjames · · Score: 1

      Unless, of course, the number of people who didn't bother based on that reasoning exceeded the margin.

    40. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by sjames · · Score: 1

      The poll worker was wrong, in Georgia, an expired drivers license is explicitly listed as an acceptable form of ID. If the person has no valid ID, they are supposed to be given a provisional ballot to fill out and they then have 2 days to present a valid ID at the county registrar's office to make the ballot official.

    41. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Post again when you figure out that "blockquote" thing.

    42. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is he uneducated? The Electoral college can/has superseded the popular vote four times now in our countries history. All we can do in this pseudo-democracy is do our little popularity contest, and hope our unnamed elector votes in support of us, and not the special interest groups he serves. Funny, too, because last time I checked, a small group of people controlling the religious, economic, and political views of a country was called Fascism...OH WELL! Your comment was bad, and you should feel terrible.

    43. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Elderly aren't Obama's constituents.

    44. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Cito · · Score: 1

      http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/Georgia-Voters-Must-Bring-A-Photo-ID-To-Vote-177270261.html

      This was posted on our local news channel website and just reported on television

      as i posted in another reply I did contact WCTV news and they are doing a report for tonight on it, many people have been turned away for not having valid ID. even though many of us are disabled and unable to drive.

      the people working the voting booths are volunteers from the local highschool with no real oversight on them.

      there are printouts on wall stating valid photo id required to vote.

      channel 6 news wctv claims to be coming to do a report.

      I called 800 number and they are mailing me a ballot, even though it wont matter if someone gets 270 electorals tonight on the tv tally it will pretty much be over, but ill mail in my ballot when I get it.

    45. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Cito · · Score: 1

      even though the new law states expired ID's would be accepted, the moron teens from the highschool aren't abiding by the law and only using valid id's which is why WCTV 6 news got involved and state voter registrar is mailing ballots to those people turned away.

    46. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If there is no mechanism to catch something, it is not shocking that you cannot find an example of it. Consider speeding - suppose the police had never enforced the speed limit, then they could not point to any speeding cases when looking to start taking measures to prevent speeding.

    47. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by theswimmingbird · · Score: 0

      Come to WV. I wasn't ID'ed, even had it out and ready.

    48. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The electoral college disagreed with the popular vote three times in our history.

      Of course the electoral college won.

    49. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Why would anyone be so stupid and vote if you are an immigrant.

      More importantly why would anyone think that in a country where half the citizens themselves couldn't be arsed voting someone else would do it for them?

    50. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So old people and blacks can't get government issued ID's? Why not? I get what you're saying but the argument is weak.

    51. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate your fucking wrongful focus. You are basically saying that lying about your identity is OK, as long as you don't get caught -- and that law enforcement and laws are bad. Well guess what, we have laws here. If you don't like it, move to Somalia.

      You know what also disenfranchises people? The cost of getting a driver license, for poor people looking for work. Coincidentally, there a lot of openings in the trucking industry right now. Instead of doing something productive, like campaigning to make drivers licenses free, you lying political scum have turned the issue into distracting political football. You fucking Democrats don't truly care about helping the poor and downtrodden -- you are just cynically using our plight as a way to seize power.

      Well you can FUCK OFF.

      Not this time, Bud.

    52. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Bryansix · · Score: 1

      That isn't informative. Dead people get caught voting all the time. Who do you think is actually doing the voting?

    53. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Kittenman · · Score: 1

      "I said oh well, not like voting matters anyhow due to electoral college bullshit and went home"

      I'm so glad you didn't vote. Uneducated people shouldn't vote.

      Tut. Currently BBC carries Obama with more Electoral college votes and less 'popular' vote. I think the OP has a point.

      And just because you disagree with him doesn't make him uneducated. (And dammit, answered an AC possible troll... mark you, some folk modded him 'insightful' - should have been 'insulting')

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    54. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      I don't think it matters if the people being voted on are idiots.

      I seriously just heard an interview from a congressional district candidate (she was going to be seated in congress) say that it was good that Ohio was expected to win a senate seat because we need representation in the senate. She was asked if she thoughts on Rob Portman and Sharrod Brown's race. This is someone who is now in government who was glad Ohio elected a senator or two because she thought Ohio didn't have enough senators in the federal government.

      I'm not going to name names, many people from ohio are here and might have heard the same interview. The news caster was sort of stunned but went on as if he didn't hear it.

    55. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Ask? Most area provide a provisional ballot when this happens and if the question is cleared up, it get counted. If not, it doesn't but the opportunity doesn't disappear.

    56. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by chrismcb · · Score: 1

      not like voting matters anyhow due to electoral college bullshit

      Right, because the electoral college also picks your governor, your senator, your congressman, and approves or rejects all of your referendums.

    57. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by chrismcb · · Score: 1

      A valid ID requirement for voting weeds out the illegals ...

      You are supposed to a US Citizen to vote. If you are an illegal, you shouldn't be voting. So what is the issue here?

    58. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Cito · · Score: 1

      well we are back to Bush/Gore situation with Obama/Romney

      CNN/Fox reporting on both their sites and on tv

      Romney got more popular vote by the citizens

      Obama didn't win the popular vote, and only won by the electoral college.

      if we went by who got the most votes, then Romney would be the new president now.

    59. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "weeds out the elderly and other MINORITIES" - that is such buillshit! Just because my father was born in Mexico does not mean he is too stupid to attain a government issued ID. I am so tired of this pandering! You protect things you value - if you value the vote you protect it by required people prove they are who they say they are.

    60. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by MooseMiester · · Score: 1

      The voter ID laws are DESIGNED to weed out Obama's constituents. Oh please I am so tired of this rhetoric. It is absurd as the notion that we don't need ID because there is no fraud. Using this logic, showing ID to buy cigarettes is an attack on the Tobacco Companies, showing ID to drink is an attack on the liquor industry, and showing an ID to fly is an attack on airlines. Simple logic says that it is the people who are cheating who don't want ID.

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    61. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by vandamme · · Score: 1

      Did you walk home??

    62. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Due to not understanding how great the electoral college is and what it prevents.

      For instance if the majority population lives in New England they would be the only states that decide the presidency all the time.

      It prevents Mob Rule.

      Besides you do not live in a democacy you live in a representative republic state under a federal democracy.

    63. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So use your social security card that you have to use to get welfare.

      Third world countries laugh at the thought of no id voting it only allows fraud in the system.

    64. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Cito · · Score: 1

      I was driven home, I'm disabled.

    65. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It also weeds out the elderly and other minorities. The voter ID laws are DESIGNED to weed out Obama's constituents. They laws are all in republican controlled states! Also, despite republicans' best efforts, they were unable to find a single case of an illegal immigrant trying to vote.

      u r completely and totally full of shit. You are irresponsible, uninformed, and generally ignorant in every conceivable way. Probably a racist asshole as well.

    66. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Trep · · Score: 1

      The median age according to the 2010 census is 37.5 years, so by any reasonable definition of "elderly", the elderly are a minority.
      http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-03.pdf (pg5)

    67. Re:GA- not allowed to vote due to id problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The key phrase here is: "I never bothered...."

      Plenty of disabled people are not lazy and apathetic.

  4. NA;DV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"

    "It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."

    "You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"

    "Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."

    "But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"

    "Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in.

    1. Re:NA;DV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I solved that problem. I noticed there was a space for write-in, so of course I voted for myself. We're supposed to chose the best candidate, right? What else could I do?

    2. Re:NA;DV by Zephyn · · Score: 2

      Congratulations. You've found the convergence point of the works of Douglas Adams and David Icke.

    3. Re:NA;DV by MarkGriz · · Score: 1

      TL;DR

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    4. Re:NA;DV by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Seems like the real problem with the planet mentioned by Mr. Prefect is that people aren't running in the election, not that people are voting for the lizards. Or perhaps they are running, but none of the sane people voted in the primaries for them, so they were left with choosing between two lizards when they finally decided to vote.

      In the recent republican primary, I saw one or two decent candidates, one or two that were pretty lousy, and a handful that were shockingly terrible. Why so few people registered for the primaries and voted for Huntsman or Ron Paul, I have no idea. It's not like you had to make an oath to the Tea Party Gods. I suppose some people told themselves it was futile because the media was ignoring them, but that strikes me as mixing up cause and effect. The media wasn't promoting Gingrich, Bachmann, Cain, or Santorum while they were leading the primaries.

      You didn't vote presumably because you saw no differences in the lizards who were running. If you bothered to vote in the primaries, you've done more of your civic duty in my opinion than those who didn't, but even then, you have no preference? This is slashdot, where heated arguments are held about which is better: Windows XP, Vista, 7, or 8. You honestly think there's nothing to distinguish Romney against Obama?

    5. Re:NA;DV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't vote because I'm not an American.

      Incidentally, this allows me to be smug because our lizards are better than your lizards.

    6. Re:NA;DV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its not a coincidence!

  5. DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not a Democrat, so my choices are basically worthless. Why waste time voting when there's no chance of it counting?

    1. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by poity · · Score: 4, Insightful

      maybe get Gary Johnson above 5%? It will change the national discourse even if you don't agree with him 100%.

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    2. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by vlm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can't be bothered to look up referendums and local races, so I can't be bothered to do it for you, but often there's school funding bonds and school boards and stuff like that to vote for where you might have an impact even if, as you say, the presidential portion of the ballot is, for your location, utterly meaningless.

      If it is meaningless, I think you should vote Johnson like I'm going to. You've obviously got nothing to lose. I respect the decision, although disagree, with a friend who's voting for the Green Party candidate. Anybody's better than the D's and the R's so any vote for someone other than D or R is always good vote.

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    3. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      KS here. absolutely agree. Vote Libertarian and try to get them to 5%. They'll get federal funds for the next election and maybe we'd actually have a real 3rd party with actual discussion of the issues for an election.

    4. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by sootman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A teacher (junior high, I think) told me years ago that who your mayor is will have a bigger impact on your life than who your president is. So if anything, read the local stuff and don't worry about the presidential race.

      BTW: Central Florida suburb, voting was at a retirement home, two people in line in front of me. I spent longer walking to and from my car (I parked in the front, not knowing the voting was in the back) than voting. Around 10am. Used the electronic machine because the trees I save in my lifetime will probably have a bigger impact on the world than who wins any particular race. Look, the whole system is a black box. Paper votes can get lost, mishandled, or ignored just as easily as a voting machine can get hacked.

      http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/16/Tampabay/Pinellas_ballot_box_s.shtml

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    5. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Ross Perot got about 20% of the vote in 1992 running largely on deficit reduction and balanced budget. The budget was shortly thereafter balanced for a while and a balanced budget amendment almost passed. But I'd argue you're mixing up cause and effect. Perot changed the national discourse. He got voters caring about it, almost enough to take a quarter of the votes. Gary Johnson has not made voters care enough about ending the wars, or civil liberties, much to my dismay.

      Voters caring about issues impacts percentages, not vice versa.

    6. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by Hatta · · Score: 2

      That's really hard to believe. A mayor can't get us into a war. A mayor can't appoint judges that will fundamentally change the way we interact with the government.

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    7. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A majority fist in the news media would be required to change national discourse. That'll never happen for Johnson.

    8. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 1

      If your mayor can't get you into a war, he isn't trying hard enough.
      Mayor Adam West from Quahog for president!!

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    9. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what "discourse" are you referring to? The continuous regurgitation of soundbites and party talking points that has been happening for the last year? Discourse, hah!

    10. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

      I'd like to see both GJ and Jill Stein get > 5%. I see a lot of support for Gary (and I like Gary), but it'd be great to have a real "progressive" influencing the debate, as well.

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    11. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Anybody's better than the D's and the R's so any vote for someone other than D or R is always good vote.

      Australia tried that in the last election and the parliament got hung. The result then is that the parties attempt to form a coalition with the minorities including the Greens who due to this debacle actually got a seat. In the end one party bent over backwards to pass shitty laws no one wanted all to form coalitions with people who shouldn't have had power in the first place, just to get in power. The most classic lie of them all "We will not have a carbon tax under my government." while whispering in the Greens' ear that they'll introduce a carbon tax to get their seat.

      I hope your system of government works better in close call situations. I'm certainly never going to "throw away" my vote again. The minorities and Greens have proven that when they get power they still make bad policy here.

    12. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by liquidsin · · Score: 1

      mayor quimby got springfield nuked by those dirty french...

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    13. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by sootman · · Score: 1

      I'm talking about your actual day-to-day life. Your local government (state and down) handles sales tax, property tax, how roads get fixed, how money gets spent in your kids' schools, if you get red light cameras in your area, how much money police and fire departments get, etc etc etc. I might have left off an "in general" or "for the most part" in my original post.

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    14. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. DC's mayoral race isn't this year.
      2. If you're not a Democrat, you don't get to decide the mayor, as it's decided in the Democratic primary, and they end up winning with 90% of the vote in the general election.

    15. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by DutchUncle · · Score: 1

      A teacher told me years ago that who your mayor is will have a bigger impact on your life than who your president is.

      Your mayor can't instigate a military draft and ship you off to be shot at for stupid reasons.

    16. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by chrismcb · · Score: 1

      So wait, they ask you if you are a democrat, and if you aren't they toss your vote?
      Too many people say this, if they all voted..

    17. Re:DC - won't vote, doesn't matter by chrismcb · · Score: 1

      I don't live in a city (despite being inside a major metropolitan area) and thus have no mayor you insensitive clod.

  6. FL: early voted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Long ballot, lines moving quickly. Heavy turnout.

  7. My experience... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Waited 15 minutes in line and then voted electronically on a diebold machine with no apparent problems.

    1. Re:My experience... by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Waited 15 minutes in line and then voted electronically on a diebold machine with no apparent problems.

      That's the biggest issue with those machines: Any problems with them aren't apparent.

    2. Re:My experience... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CO - Loveland; voted last week. Filled out my ballot in the comfort of my home (spent an hour or so researching local candidates), dropped the ballot at an early-voting location. Everyone at my lunch table voted early, but I haven't heard any stories about long lines here.

  8. CA - El Segundo - "lines" of two or three people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Hi -

    Punch card ballots, as always. No crowds at all.

    - Tom

  9. VA disenfranchised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    VA - Filed registration 45 days ago, didn't take effect, told yesterday by three election offices to vote where I was previously registered, two hours of driving, turned away, told to file provisional ballot where I live, provisional ballot where I live must be defended.

    Apparently these guys made their money and did their job:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/virginia-voter-fraud-case-expands-to-focus-on-gop-firm/2012/11/02/76285252-24eb-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_story.html

    I've read about this happening to other people but can't believe it happened to me. Understand what voter ID laws are. They are voter fraud laws - they create voter fraud. Can't believe it happened to me.

    1. Re:VA disenfranchised by gman003 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Happened to me as well. I moved a few months ago, went to the DMV to renew my license with the new address and register to vote.

      Never got my new drivers license. Never got a registration card. I checked today, I was never officially registered. I'll be checking my debit card records to see if they took the money for it - if not, I will be contacting a lawyer.

      I will also be filing a complaint at http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/Complaints.html. Might not do much good, but I'll do it anyways.

      (Not that my vote would've mattered much - I was going to vote Libertarian)

    2. Re:VA disenfranchised by jittles · · Score: 2

      When I left California in 2008, I registered absentee for the Nov 2008 election. I never got my ballot in the mail. I contacted my county election officials and they told me it had been mailed and they even had the correct address. I don't know what happened to that ballot, but I never got to vote that year and I was pissed. For all I know they had someone vote for me. But then again, it could have been lost in the USPS too (though I think that is rare these days).

    3. Re:VA disenfranchised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I am surprised by this. I also live in VA and moved 3 weeks ago, I informed the voter registrar's office and they told me I should vote early as they could not get all of the paperwork completed in time. Went to the early voting office, filled out a form and proceeded to vote 2 weeks ago.

      Your experiences are very worrying, I am glad our local (Fredericksburg) can find their rears with both hands, on occasion.

    4. Re:VA disenfranchised by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Happened to some people from work to. He and his wife moved here several years ago. They registered to vote but never received the cards. They went to vote and were turned away.

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    5. Re:VA disenfranchised by volxdragon · · Score: 1

      But then again, it could have been lost in the USPS too (though I think that is rare these days).

      OMG - I just spit my coffee everywhere...that was the funniest thing I read all morning (the being rare part :)

    6. Re:VA disenfranchised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Losing mail does not always involve losing it into a black hole. Most of the times it just gets delivered to a wrong address. I have gotten plenty of letters/packages and even credit cards and driver licenses in my mailbox that were not addressed to me and had wrong (not mine) address. This happened not because of malice but due to human error/incompetence.

    7. Re:VA disenfranchised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi, OP here. You seem to think that my inability to vote due to voter id laws was a partisan issue. It is not a partisan issue. It is a problem with our democracy. I said nothing about my political beliefs or who I intend to vote for.

    8. Re:VA disenfranchised by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Not if it got stuck to some jackass's mail who had BS sticky shit attached to their early holiday cards.

      Happens all the time. People need to leave the outside of the envelope clean and pristine. Put your fluffy shit inside the envelope, kthx.

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    9. Re:VA disenfranchised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That happened to me in 2004. I was pissed.

    10. Re:VA disenfranchised by HungWeiLo · · Score: 1

      I mail hundreds of packages every month via USPS, Fedex, and UPS in more or less equal numbers for each service. Let's just say I haven't had to go deal with the USPS in person in the last 3 years. I can't say the same about Fedex and UPS (UPS is better than Fedex, though, in terms of reliabiility).

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    11. Re:VA disenfranchised by volxdragon · · Score: 1

      I've found packages to be reliable too, but not regular 1st class mail...packages go through a different system than the auto-sorters for 1st class mail.

    12. Re:VA disenfranchised by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      VA - Filed registration 45 days ago, didn't take effect, told yesterday by three election offices to vote where I was previously registered, two hours of driving, turned away, told to file provisional ballot where I live, provisional ballot where I live must be defended.

      Apparently these guys made their money and did their job:
      http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/virginia-voter-fraud-case-expands-to-focus-on-gop-firm/2012/11/02/76285252-24eb-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_story.html

      I've read about this happening to other people but can't believe it happened to me. Understand what voter ID laws are. They are voter fraud laws - they create voter fraud. Can't believe it happened to me.

      This is what worries me. The election is, by most polls, a dead heat. It was bad enough in 2000 with all the jockeying done then and the accusations flying back and forth. But this time around there's been so much interference via both official and unofficial channels that getting a generally-accepted winner in the event of a tie is going to be next to impossible.

    13. Re:VA disenfranchised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And people want the Government to run healthcare...

      Sorry for the obvious political response, but I had to throw in that I'm all for helping people who are poor, but Obamacare is a cure that's worse than the disease. Everyone knows that most bureaucracies are incompetent; the DMV sucks, the Post Office sucks, the VA has it's ups and downs, the TSA sucks; why do people want the Government to run their healthcare too?

      I'll admit I voted for Romney, because as a referendum on Obama's performance and specifically the details of how Obamacare works I would not vote for Obama. I mean, if they can't get a simple voter registrationt hing right, especially for a veteran, how are they going to get healthcare right?

    14. Re:VA disenfranchised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Never got my new drivers license. "
      Sounds like bullshit to me. I have never been to a DMV and not walked out without my license. Why would one not get it on the spot?

    15. Re:VA disenfranchised by Reziac · · Score: 1

      I've heard a number of "absentee ballot never arrived" stories this year, from people I know (not just random voices online). It does make one wonder, when all the other mail seems to arrive just fine...

      Me, I moved and had to reregister, signed up for an absentee ballot at the same time, got it in my POBox, and a few days later dropped it off at the election office... thereby discovered huge lines for "early voting".

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    16. Re:VA disenfranchised by jittles · · Score: 1

      Well I was registered republican't [sic] in California and people are posting on CNN.com how they never got their Republican absentee ballots in Afghanistan. Maybe its a democrap [sic] conspiracy in the blue states? I kid of course, but I have never had anything lost in the USPS that I know of, so I was really irritated. I was even more irritated when California refused to mail me another absentee ballot and told me that I could report to my polling place (2500 miles away) on election day.

    17. Re:VA disenfranchised by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Every one I've heard about has been a Rep-reg'd voter too. Does make a person wonder.

      I don't know if any state does a provisional ballot for citizens presently out of their home state and deprived of their absentee ballot, tho I believe in Idaho you can show up with ID and cast a provisional ballot. In Calif, you can cast a provisional ballot anywhere.

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    18. Re:VA disenfranchised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      .....which is basically a vote for Obama.

  10. MN - Easy line, easy people by bchickens · · Score: 1

    Went pretty smooth out here in minnesota, but I went bright and early!!!

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    1. Re:MN - Easy line, easy people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Waited in line for ~45 minutes in Minneapolis to find out that I was not registered in my new precinct even though I verified it online a week ago. So then I waited an additional 15 minutes in the same-day registration line followed by another 15 minute wait in the line for the privacy booths.

      Everyone seemed to be pleasant.

    2. Re:MN - Easy line, easy people by osu-neko · · Score: 1

      I got to my polling place in Brooklyn Center, MN a bit before 1pm, had virtually no wait -- the "line" had two people ahead of me, took less than a minute for spaces to open up for all three of us.

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  11. UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by 88NoSoup4U88 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    But fuck: I'll take another four years of Obama then...

    1. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Four more years of Obama? That'll be a buttfuck, all right.

    2. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by vlm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      live with him for 4x more years ruining your country.

      LOL I'm not voting for the guy, but the R party really shot themselves in their foot by spending 4.5 years of every village idiot emailing and FB and G+ stuff about, sure, the kenyan marxist muslim hasn't grabbed our guns and sent in the UN troops YET, but I heard next week he's gonna start... and 200 odd weeks of the crying wolf stuff absolutely makes them a laughingstock. I suspect if "O" wins we'll have to suffer thru another 200 weeks of weekly emails about how "O" is gonna open up the UN concentration camps for gun owners starting "next week".

      He's got issues... He's just a lapdog of the 1% banking elite, they say "jump, O" and he says "how high, master?". His R opponent is even worse being a corrupt 1%er himself. So, the devil's tame quisling lapdog, or the devil himself? I'll vote Johnson instead.

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    3. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by AK+Marc · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He's in the UK, Obama does run his country, doesn't he?

    4. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We'll be happy to send him over to you. Enjoy!

    5. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Pope · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes. Obama "ruined" the US. All by himself. Just like magic.

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    6. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That was funny, but on /. you get modded down... it just shows the kool aid flows freely like water flowing into baths from the ancient Roman aquaducts. It's only +5 Funny if the joke is on the -R party or Romney.

    7. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by osu-neko · · Score: 1

      What has he done other than give some pretty speeches and pass what was the Republican health care plan until he decided to support it so they suddenly decided their own plan must be "socialism"...

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    8. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by cayenne8 · · Score: 0

      What has he done other than give some pretty speeches and pass what was the Republican health care plan until he decided to support it so they suddenly decided their own plan must be "socialism"...

      He's run the deficit up almost double as much in 4 years as Bush did in 8 years.

      Quite an accomplishment.

      Didn't Obama say on his first election swing...that if he couldn't bring the deficit down substantially (paraphrasing), that he didn't deserve to be more than a ONE term president?

      Now THAT would be a promise I could get excited about him keeping.

      At this point, hell...I'd vote Charlie Sheen in before I'd cast a vote for Obama....

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    9. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nope. he had help. All of them in DC. Pretty much par for the course, really.

    10. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah yes, the deficit that Republicans didn't give two shits about until they had someone else to blame it on.

    11. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by X0563511 · · Score: 2

      What, as opposed to some other dipshit ruining it for 4 years?

      I'd rather the current dipshit get his full 8 years to try to get anything accomplished rather than yanking the rug out from under and throwing it all in the trash.

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    12. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Goose+In+Orbit · · Score: 1

      Before he was even in office... *rolls eyes*

    13. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I voted Johnson, but only because my state is solid for Obama. I really think we all need to focus on getting the ignorant religious conservatives out of our government, and getting some reality-based people in.

    14. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, the deficit that Republicans didn't give two shits about until they had someone else to blame it on.

      I don't consider myself a republican.

      I'm independent...leaning more right to fiscal conservatism, but leaning left on social policy....and I guess some libertarian in that I want as little govt size and as little govt intrusion into my life as possible.

      Stating that...I'm not happy with the previous republican admins. run up of the deficit budget either, but two wrongs don't make a right.

      And especially not when the 2nd wrong pretty much doubles the first wrong's build up of the deficit.

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    15. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's like saying he ruined a house that was already in flames when Bush handed over the keys to it. Last I checked, the 2008 financial crisis was not created by Obama, and there's little evidence that you're any worse off, given that half the policies to deal with the crisis were already established by Bush when Obama took over. But no, because it finished burning down on his watch, he's the one that ruined it.

    16. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      I'd rather the current dipshit get his full 8 years to try to get anything accomplished rather than yanking the rug out from under and throwing it all in the trash.

      The trouble is, I fear that what the current dipshit (as you put it) is wanting to accomplish is in direct opposition to what is good for the continued health of the USA.

      I think he would like to fundamentally change the US...and has actually started trying to implement this...much of it based on what I read from Saul Alinsky, this quote here from his book Rules for Radicals seems to ring true:

      "There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoyevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and chance the future. ".

      I see his continued push to spend the US into oblivion as part of that possible concerted effort.

      Obama is quite the student of this community organizer philosophy, and the quotes along these lines (and even those praising Mao) from his early choices for his administration seem to confirm this somewhat.

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    17. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by sribe · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I voted Johnson, but only because my state is solid for Obama. I really think we all need to focus on getting the ignorant religious conservatives out of our government, and getting some reality-based people in.

      Yeah, I'm a fiscal conservative, don't like government constantly getting bigger, and so on. I voted a straight Democratic ticket all the way down this time, because I just can't stand these ignorant jackasses that have taken over the "conservative" side of the dialogue. Sigh.

    18. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And he did it by increasing employment.

    19. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The people themselves have ruined the US by not holding those in power responsible for their actions - educated and non-educated alike. Until the people stand up and actively defend the freedoms afforded to them, nothing will change.

    20. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      You mean the approximately 1000 page law that was written by the Democrats in Congress and passed without a single Republican vote? The one that Nancy Pelosi said they would have to pass for us to find out what was in it (which was definitely true since it has so many provisions calling for the Secretary of Health and Human Services to write regulations that we STILL don't know what all was in it)?

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    21. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What, as opposed to some other dipshit ruining it for 4 years?

      I'd rather the current dipshit get his full 8 years to try to get anything accomplished rather than yanking the rug out from under and throwing it all in the trash.

      Yeah, would hate to pull the rug out from under him before he can finish his race to 12 trillion in additional debt. Wouldn't be "fair".

    22. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by X0563511 · · Score: 2

      Obama is quite the student of this community organizer philosophy, and the quotes along these lines (and even those praising Mao) from his early choices for his administration seem to confirm this somewhat.

      I don't see this as a problem. What I do see as a problem: throwing out ideas because they might possibly have something in common with what is thought of as communism. Just because you want a few things, doesn't mean you want the whole package. Outright rejection and killing-with-fire is just proof that the Red Scare never ended.

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    23. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How can Obama "ruined" the US all by himself - remember congress should be liable, all those people bought house at the top
      and expect to go higher. All the bankers that game the system.

      Heck, even you - you didn't buy enough American made product, and expect cheap import stuff.

      so it is YOU that is responsible.

    24. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where were you when everyone on slashdot was whining about how Bush was single-handedly ruining the country?

    25. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by couchslug · · Score: 1

      Bingo. The idea that Demublicans and Repocrats are much different is absurd.

      Example, Obamanist DOJ attacking medicinal cannabis far harder then GOP predecessors.

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    26. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Starting the year before he even got into the office of President. Somehow.

    27. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      Yes. Obama "ruined" the US. All by himself. Just like magic.

      Magic Johnson?

    28. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, your parents ruined you. All by themselves. Just like magic.

      What kind of brain damage makes you think your idiotic statement is a valid criticism of criticism of Obama? I mean, do you even understand how the American political process works? The President is the executive chief,somewhat like a pope, "Pope."

      If you can't understand that, then shut the fuck up. I come to Slashdot for insight, not idiotic drivel from drooling idiots.

    29. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Welcome. I've been over here on the "dark" side since Bush's second run. That the Republicans could promote such a self-absorbed spendrift twit was it for me. Never again a republican vote from me. Palin was just the straw that obliterated the camel's back.

    30. Re:UK - Not pressing any buttons today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you're clearly NOT a fiscal conservative.

  12. Voted by mail by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For me the kicking and screaming and foaming was all over a coupla weeks ago.

    The best of it: Gave me time in the privacy of my own home to leisurely read through the pro and con positions on things, choose local officials, flip coin, etc.

    The worst of it: Didn't stop the junk mail or advertising. :P

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    1. Re:Voted by mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ditto! Mailed in two weeks ago. We're permanent absentee voters.

    2. Re:Voted by mail by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      I was too lazy to vote. There was a 300 page book on how to vote for non-residents. I didn't bother to download it.

    3. Re:Voted by mail by Whomp-Ass · · Score: 1

      OH - Yup, same deal. Actually had the time and patience to figure out who all the folks on the ballot actually were, google them, the lot, and make an informed decision, from my couch.

    4. Re:Voted by mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vote by mail FTW. Voted on a nice weekend day while watching an MLB playoff game and researching the issues. Took me about 9 hours.

  13. NJ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NJ -- Voted at 7am before getting onto the bus to work. EZPZ

  14. i voted 3 times already by alen · · Score: 4, Funny

    i used the provisional ballot at a polling place by my house, then by my kid's day care and at work during lunch

    just to make sure at least one will be counted

    1. Re:i voted 3 times already by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Vote early . . . vote often!"

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    2. Re:i voted 3 times already by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      How's the weather in Chicago?

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    3. Re:i voted 3 times already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vote early, and vote often.

    4. Re:i voted 3 times already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I moderated you "funny", but with the way our votes are getting (mis)counted, it could have been as well "+insightful" mod.

    5. Re:i voted 3 times already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i used the provisional ballot at a polling place by my house, then by my kid's day care and at work during lunch

      just to make sure at least one will be counted

      Congratulations, you've just committed a felony.

    6. Re:i voted 3 times already by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      How's the weather in Chicago?

      Partly cloudy with chance of zombies.

    7. Re:i voted 3 times already by mophab · · Score: 1

      Vote Early and Vote Often!

  15. Almost no line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Go at 10 AM and you beat the morning and lunch rush.

    2. Huge numbers of people have voted early or by mail. That reduces poll turnout.

    Paper or electronic were a choice. I chose paper. I still have no way of verifying my actual votes based on the receipt. Why is that?

    1. Re:Almost no line by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      The receipt can be facilitated by coercers, or by those buying/selling votes.

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    2. Re:Almost no line by WhiteDragon · · Score: 1

      I still have no way of verifying my actual votes based on the receipt. Why is that?

      so your union / boss / abusive spouse / anyone else who would coerce you can't demand you show them your receipt that you voted for their choice.

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  16. IA - Voted on paper. Peaceful. 2 minute wait. by joelwhitehouse · · Score: 1

    No obvious voter fraud here.

  17. AZ - Voted by Mail On OCT 13th. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Same day the ballot arrived in the mail.

  18. KY-Small City by Ben4jammin · · Score: 1

    No line when I went in, very small line forming as I left (less than dozen people) No issues went smoothly.

    1. Re:KY-Small City by ackthpt · · Score: 1

      No line when I went in, very small line forming as I left (less than dozen people)
      No issues, went smoothly.

      FTFY

      No exit pollers lurking about? I used to tell them I voted for myself.

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  19. MA: 06:30 Lines. by jk379 · · Score: 1

    Voting started at 07:00 out by 07:30.

  20. Twin Cities, MN - with Scantron by PaisteUser · · Score: 2

    Everything was orderly and calm at the polling place in our hometown. I was in and out of the polling place in 10 minutes.

    I'm curious to know how many places are using computerized voting machines in the country? MN still uses Scantron machines; it's hard to screw up, and cheap to operate.

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    1. Re:Twin Cities, MN - with Scantron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not voting with a Scantron, but I am voting in Scranton, PA. Computer machine with a touch interface over here.

    2. Re:Twin Cities, MN - with Scantron by PaisteUser · · Score: 1

      Not voting with a Scantron, but I am voting in Scranton, PA.

      I like what you did there.

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    3. Re:Twin Cities, MN - with Scantron by rogueippacket · · Score: 1

      Must be good business for the local paper company.

    4. Re:Twin Cities, MN - with Scantron by PaisteUser · · Score: 1

      Must be good business for the local paper company.

      That, and Scantron is headquartered in MN: http://www.scantron.com/company/locations/

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    5. Re:Twin Cities, MN - with Scantron by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      You calibrate scantrons with filled out forms. If someone fills out the form wrong, your vote goes to the other guy. One of the easiest to cheat

    6. Re:Twin Cities, MN - with Scantron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As another Twin Cities resident, everything was pretty quiet when my wife and I showed up shortly after the doors opened. Despite having registered and voted in the same location two years ago, my wife had for some reason been dropped from the registered voter list. No big deal, though: she filled out a new registration form and had cast her ballot only minutes later.

  21. SC - 1 1/2 hour wait. not too bad by hackula · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Annoyingly long line this morning but no big deal. It's only once every 4 years. Strangely noticed 5 to 1 male turn out, in a largely suburban precinct. Don't know what to make of that yet.

    1. Re:SC - 1 1/2 hour wait. not too bad by Sez+Zero · · Score: 1

      I live in a similar suburban precinct. When I voted on the way to work I noticed it was mostly men in line, but when I worked from home and voted slightly later in the day I noticed it was the opposite-- mostly women.

      My guess: men vote on the way to work, women are smarter and vote when there are fewer crowds.

    2. Re:SC - 1 1/2 hour wait. not too bad by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Men vote on the way to work, and women vote in the middle of the day?

    3. Re:SC - 1 1/2 hour wait. not too bad by MartinSchou · · Score: 5, Insightful

      One and a half hour?!? In a developed country, that has had democracy for more than two hundred years?

      How is this even remotely acceptable in what is supposedly a bastion of democracy?

    4. Re:SC - 1 1/2 hour wait. not too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait times for voting here are very inconsistent. In California, I waited less than three minutes, mainly because there was some confusion with voter records for someone in front of me. As I was voting with a mail-in ballot that I hand-delivered, the entire process took only four minutes or so.

    5. Re:SC - 1 1/2 hour wait. not too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because, apparently, 6 chairs are "enough" -- cardboard borders are just too expensive to have *shock* TWELVE chairs.

    6. Re:SC - 1 1/2 hour wait. not too bad by Hatta · · Score: 2

      Because democracy is an illusion in the US, no one actually cares whether it's efficient or accurate.

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    7. Re:SC - 1 1/2 hour wait. not too bad by steelfood · · Score: 1

      In a developed country, that has had democracy for more than two hundred years

      That doesn't mean what you think it means. See, you think it means the voting process has been perfected. It is as efficient and as accurate as possible. The most popular candidate is always chosen.

      In reality, it means there's the most bureaucracy around the affair. There's the most BS to get through before even being able to vote. Everything, from the polling place to the counting machines to the very process has been buried beneath so much bureaucracy and red tape nothing ends up happening. The votes that get counted are the ones that slipped through, or the ones from people with enough time or clout they can ram it through by force.

      If you want to see how things are done right, don't look this way. Look this way if you want to see how money gets wasted while things are done half-assed.

      Would a corporation do better? No. What needs to happen is a culture shift. And nobody'd like that.

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    8. Re:SC - 1 1/2 hour wait. not too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A democracy is only as good as its people, my friend.

      Sadly, the selfishness of the people has arisen dramatically in the last few decades. People won't donate their precious time to volunteer for things. Self-reliance is also at an all-time low. Few will take responsibility anymore.

      Note that there are stark exceptions to this in every community, but it's dwindling.

    9. Re:SC - 1 1/2 hour wait. not too bad by mark_osmd · · Score: 1

      The deal here in Maryland that makes the voting lines slow is the ballots are getting a bit long. The one here in 2012 had 30 selections to make. I got in line at 3:30pm and was done at 4:13 only because I had pre-filled out a sample ballot all my selections. A lot of people I saw there seem to go in cold and look over the all the ballot language in the booth, taking a lot more time.

    10. Re:SC - 1 1/2 hour wait. not too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm from Australia and I think the longest I've ever had to wait to vote was a few minutes. I can't fathom how people should have to wait at all to vote!

    11. Re:SC - 1 1/2 hour wait. not too bad by GumphMaster · · Score: 1

      I was wondering that myself. I realise that some US ballot papers are issued in book form but surely they gear up to allow for that... well, actually it appears not. Voting in compulsory here, so (nearly) everyone votes, and I have never had to wait more than five minutes in suburban Australian polling places. Our elections occur on a Saturday so the impact on most businesses is low, but can you imagine the impact of losing every worker for a couple of hours on a Tuesday. Have any of the candidates suggested moving election day as a productivity measure?

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    12. Re:SC - 1 1/2 hour wait. not too bad by NamTaf · · Score: 1

      I agree with the parent, that's unacceptable to the level of incompetence.

      Here in Aus, it takes me maybe 5 minutes to get in, vote and get out, if I'm unfortunate and the line is long. I don't think I've ever seen it over 5 or so people. Then again, we use simple paper ballots where you can either select your party and have them allocate your preferences (we vote preferential, not first-past-the-post) or you can explicitly identify each and every preference of every available candidate if you want the Ultimate Democratic Experience (TM). More info here: http://www.aec.gov.au/Voting/How_to_vote/

      The system is good. It's fast if you want that or exhaustive if you want that, it's hard to mess up and it's robust. I like it. There's none of this stupid electronic voting that can be tampered with and there's no wait times from hell that you guys in the US seem to suffer.

      The biggest crime I've noticed with our voting system is that the voting-day sausage sizzle BBQ seems to be disappearing from polling booths. You used to be able to get a free sausage on bread on the way out of the polling booth but I'm seeing less and less of that. It makes getting up hungover on a Saturday that much more difficult.

    13. Re:SC - 1 1/2 hour wait. not too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One and a half hour?!? In a developed country, that has had democracy for more than two hundred years?

      How is this even remotely acceptable in what is supposedly a bastion of democracy?

      It's par for course. The new American national pastime is assuming that we do everything in the best possible way and ignoring the rest of the world. Our stubbornness is increasingly painful. Please do shame us into making eventual improvements.

    14. Re:SC - 1 1/2 hour wait. not too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Possible that the sheer number of different votes that need to be cast (federal state, county, city, judges, more?) could increase the time to vote?

      My last experience down under was that the line was short and I was in and out in about 5 mins after voting for 2 different levels of government.

    15. Re:SC - 1 1/2 hour wait. not too bad by hackula · · Score: 1

      We have the same thing. I usually hit the straight ticket button, then modify a couple. IDK what could really speed it up on election day. My precinct had about 12 voting booths and was only one neighborhood of people. People moved along pretty quick, it is just a lot of people.

  22. IL provisional ballot for the lose. by __aaeihw9960 · · Score: 1

    I forgot to update my polling place when I built a home. So, I got to fill out the sweet provisional ballot.

    1. Re:IL provisional ballot for the lose. by __aaeihw9960 · · Score: 2

      Oh, and it was a really short wait with friendly people. And the lead polling judge even baked cookies for today. God bless small town America.

  23. MI - hour wait but worth it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Waited in line at the polls for around an hour (8am, pre work rush?), but happy that I got to cast my first ballot for the POTUS.

    1. Re:MI - hour wait but worth it. by DG · · Score: 1

      As your neighbor to the south, I REALLY hope you voted NO on Prop 6.

      Matty Moran is defending his economy-strangling monopoly on the border crossing bridge to the death. Prop 6 is (I hope) his last gasp at sabotaging the bridge we are trying to build.

      DG

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    2. Re:MI - hour wait but worth it. by Soulskill · · Score: 1

      Also waited for about an hour. Part of the wait was due to the time (close to the lunch rush), and part of it was due to some sort of senior voting official re-educating one of the not-so-senior voting officials. There was a point of debate over how much quicker it was to have one volunteer dedicated to swiping people's driver's licenses, rather than having the guy on the laptop both swipe and enter data.

      Oh well. We had good old paper ballots, so no exciting footage of mis-calibrated touchscreens.

  24. KY - Not voting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no chance in hell of Kentucky going to Obama (who I would vote for) and since the popular vote means shit I don't see the point in leaving work when I have more pressing issues to address.

    1. Re:KY - Not voting by Andy+Prough · · Score: 2

      Don't listen to pollsters or political analysts - they are well-paid liars. Every year there are surprises. You should vote.

    2. Re:KY - Not voting by Nadaka · · Score: 4, Insightful

      President isn't the only position, local, state and congressional positions matter just as much.

      Get your ass out and vote for the sake of your country!

    3. Re:KY - Not voting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So you don't have any local candidates or local issues to vote on?

    4. Re:KY - Not voting by poity · · Score: 1

      Besides what others have already said about local seats, popular vote for the Presidency means something for 3rd parties. Libertarian party is closer than ever to that goal. Even if you don't agree 100% (and who really does with ANY party?), you have the opportunity to contribute to a change in future debates.

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    5. Re:KY - Not voting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm moving out of Kentucky in April so anything on the ballot would have minimal to no impact. Local elections (city level) are basically fixed in that there is no competition, It's just one person running for the spot.

    6. Re:KY - Not voting by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      it doesn't matter if you move away afterwards. If you vote for what/who you believe is just and good then you contribute to making that place better even if it does not directly benefit you. Vote damn it. It is your civic duty.

    7. Re:KY - Not voting by Kiyyik · · Score: 1

      Well yeah, but there's other people in KY you know. My poor family, for one. I'm the only one who escaped; they're all still stuck there. C'mon, do it for them; don't they have it bad enough already? ;)

  25. TX - not even going to bother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I probably would have voted for R-Money, but he's already got this state on lock

    1. Re:TX - not even going to bother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then why not vote Gary Johnson? Seriously, It can't hurt, and it can only help get him above 5%

  26. Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.sos.georgia.gov/gaphotoid/default.htm

    A Georgia Driver's License, even if expired

    1. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup. Grand parent poster is just spreading FUD.

    2. Re:Really? by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just because he's wrong doesn't mean the poll worker wasn't also wrong. Happens all the time.

    3. Re:Really? by Threni · · Score: 1

      Can't you call the police and get it corrected? You can't seriously expect to be unable to vote because of some fuckwit, can you?

    4. Re:Really? by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 1

      Or it means he threw it away because it has been useless for most of the last seven years.

    5. Re:Really? by OldeTimeGeek · · Score: 1

      It'd be more effective to call the Registrar of Voters (or whatever the agency that handles voting is called) to report it. They can actually do something - the police can't.

    6. Re:Really? by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      Just because he's wrong doesn't mean the poll worker wasn't also wrong. Happens all the time.

      Yeah, but now maybe AC can go back to the polling place with this info and get to vote. If he's not allowed to, he might have a civil suit for disenfranchisement.

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    7. Re:Really? by Obfuscant · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or it means he threw it away because it has been useless for most of the last seven years.

      Useless, other than as ID to allow him to vote. Free country, people get to decide what's important to them for many things, and keeping an expired driver's license around to be able to vote is one of those things.

    8. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most certainly true!

      However, as he clearly has time and internet access (to the extent the OP posted 3min after the article), it's 'shame on him' for not having spent the 30 seconds (if even) checking the law and telling the poll worker.

      And really, given the attitude of the post I wouldn't be surprised if he never actually bothered going to the polls and just assumed that he'd be turned away.

    9. Re:Really? by negRo_slim · · Score: 1

      Just because he's wrong doesn't mean the poll worker wasn't also wrong. Happens all the time.

      Yeah, when I went down (here in Idaho) I had an expired Oregon DL but I have my Idaho college ID. Had to re-register for some reason and because the student ID lacked an address initially I was told I would need some proof of residence. Head poll lady happen to hear and said no that's fine (you sign a residency affidavit every year of school so I'm assuming that's why it worked) but either way I certainly don't attribute any malice or misintent on the part of the original worker. They were all older people and doing the best they could from what I saw.

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    10. Re:Really? by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 1

      So you expect him to hold on to an expired license before the law to require it was even drafted?

      Jesus, you people are dense.

    11. Re:Really? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      You don't need to "show your papers" in a free country.

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    12. Re:Really? by Guru80 · · Score: 1

      In Michigan (not sure about elsewhere) you are allowed to vote even without and I.D. this year and your vote will count if you sign and affidavit.

    13. Re:Really? by astrodoom · · Score: 2

      Except when you need to do something like, I don't know, prove you're a citizen of said country...

    14. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A drivers license in no way proves you're a citizen. The only way to prove that is a birth certificate or passport.

    15. Re:Really? by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Driver's license is not proof of citizenship.

    16. Re:Really? by RabidReindeer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Driver's license is not proof of citizenship.

      No, but it generally works as proof of identity. Around here, it's not enough to be a citizen, you have to be a registered voter. And if you're registered, you have a designated polling place where they have a book with the names of the voters. You use the Driver's License or other photo ID to prove that you match the name. Then they take your signature and check off your name to discourage repeat voting.

    17. Re:Really? by Rhinobird · · Score: 1

      Or write a check...

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    18. Re:Really? by astrodoom · · Score: 1

      That's a fair point, but the driver's license is to show you're the registered voter you say you are. In the U.S.A., registered voter = citizen.

    19. Re:Really? by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Years ago, ID wasn't needed to vote. You'd present yourself as a person on the list and sign. So long as nobody else tried to vote under that name, nobody would know if it was false. If someone else did try to vote under that name, the second person would be challenged and the first person's vote would count (as it wasn't tracable) and they'd have their signature to identify them, if they ever found them.

      Being on the list and asserting you should be on the list was sufficient for most of the history of this country. Both my parents are old enough that their first driver's licenses had no photos (or driving test).

    20. Re:Really? by slinches · · Score: 1

      It is if your state requires proof of citizenship/residency to issue a license.

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    21. Re:Really? by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      I have a valid driver's license. I'm a 5 minute away from a consulate where I can revoke my US citizenship. If I were to do so, I'd no longer be a US citizen, but with a valid US driver's license (well, AK license, as they aren't national). I got it 10+ years ago, so I don't remember if I had to present citizenship proof to get it.

      Also, the expiry of licenses doesn't match visas for those who are residents but not citizens, so a visa/permit can expire and not reflect in a license expiry.

      Plus, can residents even vote? I thought it was a citizen thing only. So a permanent resident with a license could "prove" citizenship with a license that doesn't require citizenship to get?

    22. Re:Really? by khallow · · Score: 1

      I guess he should have gotten a new ID then. Funny how looking out for the things you care about takes some work.

    23. Re:Really? by Bryansix · · Score: 1

      So you expect him to hold on to an expired license before the law to require it was even drafted?

      Jesus, you people are dense.

      Yes, Yes, I do. When I was in college I didn't have a Driver's License. I had to still go to the DMV and get an ID issued from them. If you are not going to go do that when you stop driving then you better hold onto the old license.

    24. Re:Really? by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Actually, there will be a poll worker in charge who is supposed to do that stuff if they cannot point to a rule book and back the position up. The op made it up to stir crap up about the voter ID law.

    25. Re:Really? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      When I was in college and after, I had the plastic version of the Minnesota Learner's permit. A valid form of ID for all purposes except driving without being practicing driving. I used it for many years as my ID. They don't issue you the plastic version until you've carried the paper version for a year. I was a nerd. I rode my bike and the bus everywhere I wanted to go until I got a drivers license when I was 23.

    26. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the peoples republic of maryland they don't ask for id. If you try to show it to them they act offended and tell you to put it away.

  27. MN - voted this morning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The way that all polls should be run.

    a) Got in line to receive a ballot voucher. Last names A-G, then H-R, then S-Z in three separate lines. Identified myself (no photo ID) and signed by my name in the voting register. Received a marked ballot voucher from the poll worker.
    b) Got in the next line to exchange the ballot voucher for a ballot from another poll worker. Scantron-style, fill in the bubble.
    c) Got in the next line to wait for an open poll booth. Marked my ballot (was tempted to write in Lizard People) in secret.
    d) Got in the next line to insert my ballot into the electronic reader. If I had mismarked the ballot it would have been rejected at that time, it would have been marked spoiled, and I would have received a blank ballot with instructions to fill in the bubbles properly.
    e) Got my "I Voted" sticker and went to work.

    The longest step in there was c), which had about ten people in line for a dozen voting booths. I was in and out within twenty minutes and this was with the pre-workday rush.

    The only improvement that I would make would be in c) above, which is where electronic balloting could be worthwhile, with the absolute ironclad requirement that d) above be used. An electronic voting machine is acceptable if and only if it produces a human-readable ballot, which I then verify for accuracy, and then submit into the electronic reader, which will tally the votes and retain the actual ballots for recount purposes.

    Hanging chads? No paper trail? Voter suppression due to ID requirements? None of that here. Same-day registration, too, which is why MN consistently leads the nation in turnout.

  28. CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was no option for Gordon Freeman so i just voted Romney

  29. CA - Voted on paper, in and out. by Crash24 · · Score: 1

    Somewhere in San Joaqin Valley. Started right after the polls opened (0700 PST), there was practically no wait...though I imagine it's going to get much busier after business hours. Decent age cross-section, too.

  30. WA - voted by mail 2 weeks ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Washington state is all vote-by-mail. Works great -- can set aside a few hours to research the issues and make well informed decisions instead of "guessing" based on memory recollection.

    1. Re:WA - voted by mail 2 weeks ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Also did this, I'm not sure of the cost of mailing vs. polling stations, but I have to believe it leads to more informed decisions. Who did I want for county auditor again? Well I saw the Vote Smith sign on the way in, maybe that was it.

    2. Re:WA - voted by mail 2 weeks ago by nonsequitor · · Score: 1

      I voted 2 weeks ago as well. I hear WA is expected to have a voter turnout exceeding 85%. I hope other states adopt this approach, it is certainly the most democratic and fair approach to elections I've seen so far, since every voter has weeks to go through the literature sent about all the candidates. And no one has to skip work to vote, so it doesn't disenfranchise the poor.

      There's still the option of going to an actual polling place, like I did 4 years when voting for president, but I much prefer voting by mail.

  31. OH - Columbus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Voted first thing this morning as well. Went fine. Bigger turnout than I was expecting at that time.

    1. Re:OH - Columbus by ByOhTek · · Score: 2

      Woo-hoo, don't need to change the subject line!

      Voted at 6:30AM. By that point the line was already 5x longer than it had been in the 2008 election, and I was glad to have arrived at 6:00 to the polling center.

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    2. Re:OH - Columbus by GregC63 · · Score: 1

      Same here. Voted in Westerville(Suburb of Columbus) Arrived at 6:00AM at least 100 people already in line. Polls opened a 6:30AM and at that point there had to be at least 300-400 in line. I got though in about 15 minutes and the line was moving very smoothly. Glad I didn't show up any later!

  32. I get the states' rights thing... by brainproxy · · Score: 1

    But maybe an open sourced voting machine run by a non-profit? Maybe a civilian department? Private companies making voting machines doesn't seem like a great idea. And there are always the conspiracy theorists who will use it as a psychological out so they never have to accept a loss. Let them find another out. Like the Illuminati and mind control or something..

    1. Re:I get the states' rights thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But maybe an open sourced voting machine run by a non-profit? Maybe a civilian department?

      Never happen. Open source means hippy liberal. Same with non-profit. The GOP doesn't want them damn dirty hippies stealing the election. That's they're job...

  33. UK - posted weeks ago. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hello to Jason Isaacs

  34. NJ - Postfix Server Still Voting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    My postfix server has been voting all day in NJ.

    1. Re:NJ - Postfix Server Still Voting by WhiteDragon · · Score: 1

      My postfix server has been voting all day in NJ.

      hmm, for some reason, NJ's email voting is suffering major glitches... http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/06/14974588-new-jerseys-email-voting-suffers-major-glitches?lite

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    2. Re:NJ - Postfix Server Still Voting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For whom, though?

  35. FL - Orlando, Long line! by KevinH456 · · Score: 1

    My line in Florida was long as hell. I waited two hours and the line was longer than when I left. My district is tiny, so it seems like everyone came out this morning to vote.

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    1. Re:FL - Orlando, Long line! by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      My line in Florida was long as hell. I waited two hours and the line was longer than when I left. My district is tiny, so it seems like everyone came out this morning to vote.

      Seems to vary with time and place. No waiting when I went in, although apparently the early-to-work crowd got backed up.

      Then again, the local early voting location was overflowing for the past week or 2. Statewide, I think it was supposed to be about 30% early voters, but for all I know it was a lot higher in my neighborhood.

  36. OH - voted in person by tylikcat · · Score: 3, Informative

    Headed out latish in the morning to avoid the lines - things were busy, but not insane. No problems with my somewhat complicated ID. My helpful online guide had not given me all of the right judgeships on the ballot, so I ended up leaving a few blank having no clue as to who these people were. (It could be worse - my labmate had a similar experience, but in his case it cost him a chance to vote against the person who thinks that jihadists are trying to infiltrate textbooks with sharia law.)

    And I forgot about the excellent http://www.judge4yourself.com/ website, which could have helped considerably on my judgeships problems. No, really, if you're in Ohio, check it out.

    Generally painless. I do miss being able to sign up for absentee ballots and stay signed up, rather than having to re-do it every time.

  37. AZ - voted at 10am to avoid the long lines. by bryantthesmith · · Score: 1

    When I got to the polls at around 10 there were only 3 people in line in front of me. I spent 2-3 hours researching the various candidates and propositions on the ballot.

    1. Re:AZ - voted at 10am to avoid the long lines. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ID check was the longest part of the process. Nobody in front of me at 7:30 this morning. I didn't like the ID check, but it was less intimidating than the campaign operatives that tried to stop me as I entered the polling place four years ago.

  38. NC -voted 10/19, paper ballot, no wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No line, several at the voting tables but no one ahead of me.

  39. WA - Mailed in the ballot Sunday by sabinelr · · Score: 1

    The voting results will probably be a done deal before they even open my ballot.

  40. WA - everyone votes by mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We received our ballots on 16 October. We have until today to either drop it off or have it postmarked.

    Interesting captcha: forges

  41. NE-Voted by mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Received my ballot 2 days after requesting it (via mail as well). Simple to fill in with my handy-dandy #2 pencil.

  42. NC - today 11am, no line, 10 marking ballots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Paper ballot, no wait, no hassle.

  43. FL - Couldn't vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I was blocked by Black Panthers on my way into the voting station.

    1. Re:FL - Couldn't vote by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      I call bullshit on this.

      Why did you not call the police, or "stand your ground"?

    2. Re:FL - Couldn't vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are so full of shit. panthers did not block you. scare mongering nazi's goose stepping to fox news blabber heads orders to lie, lie, lie.

    3. Re:FL - Couldn't vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was blocked by white panthers on my way into the voting station.

    4. Re:FL - Couldn't vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was blocked by Black Panthers on my way into the voting station.

      Well you are obviously at the zoo, and not your polling station. Let me guess, you used your new iPhone to get you there?

  44. NC - Absentee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Worst part was researching candidates. Not because researching sucks but it's hard to find information outside of campaign sites.

  45. CA - voted by mail weeks ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mailed in my ballot several weeks ago.

    1. Re:CA - voted by mail weeks ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did the same. Since it was asked for, I spent about 3 hours reading the various propositions and the legislative analyst's report on them before voting. It didn't stop all the idiots robocalling and asking for me to vote for some dilhole or other. We don't answer the home phone and most callers hang up before 6 rings. But I still had the answering machine full - 14 calls (some were long). 11 were political, 2 were game stop (apparently Halo 4 is out), and 1 was an illegal call from a carpet cleaning company (we are on the do not call list). Each day has seen between 2 and 8 political mailers too. The trash bin will get a relief now that those are done...

  46. Vote early, vote often by whutchis · · Score: 1

    Voted about 7:30 in PA. Short wait - went as smoothly as ever.

    1. Re:Vote early, vote often by FuzzyDustBall · · Score: 1

      Did you show ID or nut up and refuse?

  47. Kansas City, MO by RocketScientist · · Score: 2

    Got there 10 minutes after they opened (6:10am) and was out before 7. Lines were long but moving quickly. Efficient process and good poll workers, who don't get nearly enough credit for what they do. Scantron-style voting machine (paper ballots ftw). The stuff I expected on the ballot (President, senate, congress, governor and associated state executive, state representative, and a ballot measure) along with a couple other ballot measures I wasn't familiar with but I read through and voted on.

    1. Re:Kansas City, MO by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      Also KCMO. Haven't voted yet. I'll probably get there between 5-6PM. Hoping lines won't be too bad.

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    2. Re:Kansas City, MO by Kiyyik · · Score: 1

      South KCMO here. Got to my polling place at 6:30, got out right around 7. We had one of the electronic ones, and everyone else was using the Scantrons. Place was packed! Little church fellowship hall, with both A-L and M-Z lines stretching back and going around on themselves.

    3. Re:Kansas City, MO by crazyprogrammer · · Score: 1

      Also in KCMO. Arrived at 4pm and the line could have moved faster but wasn't too bad. There were three different lines to sign in depending on what the first letter of your last name is. The p through z line was about empty and the h through o line(the one i was in) had about 25 people in it when I got there. There were two electronic voting machines and scantron sheets. I was asked which method I wanted to vote(I assume no one was asked by a poll worker to use one or the other). By the time I left an hour later, the line was out the door.

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  48. IA - no issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Was voter #235 in my ward of ~2,500 people @ 11am. Not sure if that qualifies as high turnout but that seems pretty good considering that the polls close here at 9pm central. Wasn't asked to show an ID, just had to confirm my address and date of birth.

    1. Re:IA - no issues by taiwanjohn · · Score: 1

      I mailed in my absentee ballot for Black Hawk County this afternoon. However, I had to use a FWAB because I never received the ballot I requested a month ago. I waited until the last day for that ballot, and finally went to the local (de-facto) embassy for Plan B.

      Every time I always check the box to continue receiving ballots at my current address, but somehow that never seems to "stick", I always have to proactively request a ballot.

      Frankly, this is a national embarrassment for the USA. Our election process is so fucked up with machines and such. Here in Taiwan (where I live) they have no machines and use only paper ballots. After the polls close, they hand-count the ballots in public view and results are usually complete within 2~3 hours.

      We can do better, folks. We must demand better.

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    2. Re:IA - no issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Black Hawk County has had voting problems in the past. But then again, corruption is very common place there. I wonder if that partially explains why the crime rate is so high and vice versa. But here in Polk, there were no problems.

    3. Re:IA - no issues by taiwanjohn · · Score: 1

      Citation please. I've never heard of voting problems in Black Hawk County, but I'm willing to look at your evidence.

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    4. Re:IA - no issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I retract my previous statement. I was going off of something my father said (he watches governments closely as part of his job). But, when I called him to provide the sources you asked for, he made clear that I misunderstood him. There have not been voting problems in the past, other than the occasional hiccup that happens in any county. What he was talking about was that various groups were targeting (and have historically targeted) Black Hawk County because of its large minority population (almost 3x the Iowa average). I then conflated that with the general issues that the Supervisors and other officials have had with corruption. In fact, my dad says Veeder is doing a pretty good job considering the shenanigans pulled by the various groups.

      Ironically, my CAPTCHA is despots.

  49. WA - Not allowed to push buttons. by chinton · · Score: 1

    I had to color in lines, stuff my ballot into multiple envelops, then drive it to a ballot drop box. Thanks, WA, that is much better than walking to the polling place that used to be a block away.

    1. Re:WA - Not allowed to push buttons. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or pay for a fucking stamp.

      Or, as a local newspaper tested and discovered, drop it in the mail without a stamp and it will get delivered anyway.

      m!

    2. Re:WA - Not allowed to push buttons. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're voting by mail - perhaps you've not noticed but there's a company that collects and delivers that every day.

    3. Re:WA - Not allowed to push buttons. by geekoid · · Score: 1

      More people vote with mail in, so it is better. I'm sorry you had to spend 5 minutes voting in the comfort of your own home, and then drive to a place to drop off you ballot without getting out of your car.

      With the advantage that you can research people running while you are voting.

      It took me about 10 minutes to vote here in Or, and it was that long becasue I want to research some of the local politician a little more. I dropped it off the next time I needed to drive some place.

      You can't let pierce county be a ball and change in progress.

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    4. Re:WA - Not allowed to push buttons. by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Frankly I would have no problem with the ballots not needing a stamp. That would mean the money would come out of a fund, but I bet the rate they could get form the post office would be pretty good.

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    5. Re:WA - Not allowed to push buttons. by Torinaga-Sama · · Score: 1

      Indeed, and then I even got to feel like actually voted cause I took my ballot to the county annex and watched it get stuffed in the box.

      I even got a sticker!

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    6. Re:WA - Not allowed to push buttons. by rwa2 · · Score: 1

      I had to color in lines, stuff my ballot into multiple envelops, then drive it to a ballot drop box. Thanks, WA, that is much better than walking to the polling place that used to be a block away.

      Yes, yes it is. Just moved to WA from MD. This was much more pleasant and easier... it's almost like they want you to vote.

      Back in MD, only on election day would we be able to walk to our polling place at the condominium office before or after work, depending upon what we wanted to be late for.
      The walk was pleasant enough, but might have been difficult for the elderly and disabled.
      Then we got a smartcard and stood in line for half an hour. Then we put the card in some Diebold machine and pawed out some options we had memorized onto the touchscreen. Then we returned the smartcard into a box. My wife (a teacher) never bothered with any of this.

      Last weekend in WA we had a leisurely read through the voter's pamphlet that had statements for and against each measure and candidate, and bubbled in the options together. Then we dropped off our ballots in the box next to the library after returning an overdue book. The line was 1 car.

  50. FL - No problems. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    @10am - The line had 26 people. I was surprised(!) there were so many so late in the morning. I was done and gone in 25 minutes.

    @1:20pm - Passed by the polling place... No waiting.

  51. TX - I bothered anyway by arootbeer · · Score: 1

    North Austin - poll workers were competent and the systems were working well. My polling location had 8 E-slate machines running. I was in and out in about 30 minutes, with the line consistently about 15 people deep. Voting in-precinct: there's a lot more to vote on than just the Presidency.

  52. VA - Hour long wait, record lines by blackanvil · · Score: 1

    Just got back from voting. It was an hour long wait, and according to the poll workers, it was the shortest it had been all day, they had never seen turnout like this before.

    1. Re:VA - Hour long wait, record lines by Joehonkie · · Score: 1

      Same experience here. That's a good thing.

    2. Re:VA - Hour long wait, record lines by yurtinus · · Score: 1

      Good that people are getting out... Bad that most of them are just here to vote against "the other guy"

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  53. LA - New Orleans by cayenne8 · · Score: 2
    LA - Went to my polling place about 8:50am this morning. Small line, about 4 people in front of me.

    Electronic voting, but is not a computer terminal or touch screen. It is a large sheet of paper with candidates and referendum items on it, that allow the buttons for each choice to show through.

    You push the screen to see a 'X' appear by the choices you like, push the OK button, and your done.

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    1. Re:LA - New Orleans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is not a computer terminal or touch screen

      ...

      You push the screen

    2. Re:LA - New Orleans by vandamme · · Score: 1

      "You push the screen to see a 'X' appear by the choices you like,..."

      Sounds like something you could do on teh interwebs...

  54. WI: voted. by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Informative

    > what have you found?

    The usual: three elderly ladies at a table in the town hall, our 100 year old ballot box, a voting both, and an electronic voting machine (a new one: the manufacturer of the $6000 original went out of business and the machine could not be used without their support).

    > Did you or will you vote electronically, or on paper?

    Paper, of course. I could have voted "electronically" but I'm not that stupid.

    > How long did you wait to vote?

    Wait? I suppose if we had delayed until after supper we would have had ten minutes or so to chat with the neighbors.

    > Did you vote weeks ago by mail?

    I don't approve of that other than for extraordinary circumstances where a voter cannot possibly get to the polling place.

    > How much time did you put into making your choices?

    I made my decision long ago.

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    1. Re:WI: voted. by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "I don't approve of that other than for extraordinary circumstances where a voter cannot possibly get to the polling place."
      becasue..why? you don't want more people to vote?

      "I made my decision long ago."
      I'm sure you did.

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    2. Re:WI: voted. by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I wrote:"I don't approve of that other than for extraordinary circumstances where a voter cannot possibly get to the polling place."

      > becasue..why?

      Too many opportunities for fraud. It muddies the transparency of the process.

      > you don't want more people to vote?

      As an end in itself? No. Elections should be on Sundays, precincts should be small, and any precinct where wait time exceeds about ten minutes at any time during the day should be split. People whose only reason for voting by mail is that they can't be arsed to go to a polling place are not likely to be well enough informed to do anything but introduce noise. The parties want unthinking knee-jerk votes. I don't.

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    3. Re:WI: voted. by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      Probably because he would like to be sure that the people who vote care enough to make the effort to get to the polls on election day, which suggests that they care enough to cast an informed vote.

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    4. Re:WI: voted. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's just something about your post. Maybe it's the thick aroma of condescension.

      You seem like a real prick.

      Bet you voted Romney.

    5. Re:WI: voted. by Caspin · · Score: 2

      I'm the opposite. I think we should all vote by mail. I took 2 hours a home with the internet to completely fill out my ballot. I can imagine what knee jerk voting gets you at the polling both. "Well here are the 3 things I thought about ahead of time. And now I'll just vote Blue/Red for the rest of them."

    6. Re:WI: voted. by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      However, it should not be made difficult to get to the polls on election day and it especially important that, as far as practical, it should not be harder for some to vote than for others. Thus, elections should be on Sundays and precincts should be small and numerous. No one should have to wait more than ten minutes to vote and, where feasible, polling places should be within walking distance of everyone (not possible out here).

      On the other hand, the names of the parties should not be on the ballot. If you can't manage to memorize the name of the person you intend to vote for you have no business voting.

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    7. Re:WI: voted. by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, the names of the parties should not be on the ballot.

      That is one of the best new (to me) election reform suggestions I have seen in years.

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    8. Re:WI: voted. by AmongTheBoulders · · Score: 0

      They also asked me if I wanted to vote electronically, or on paper? There was a long moving line behind two electronic voting machines, but no line for using the paper ballot booths. Half of those dozen or so old fashioned voting booths were empty. Saving time by using a paper ballot seemed like the obvious choice to me. Besides I do not trust the security of voting machines and prefer to use a paper ballot for that reason anyway.

      I brought my sample ballot with me, which I had already filled out the day before. So, it did not take me long to copy my choices over from the sample ballot to the real ballot. My real ballot had the little circles that I had to fill in with a pen, just like the sample ballot did.

      Afterwards I had to insert my paper ballot into a machine, which seemed to scan my paper ballot. After two tries it accepted my ballot, and a pollworker handed an "I voted" sticker.

      Driving to and from the polling place, plus the time spent showing my ID and then voting, took about 20 - 30 minutes, all together.

      Ahead of the election, I had received in the mail, a sample ballot and also the Arizona General Election Guide, which has various pro and con arguments for each proposition. In addition, I also received a copy of the Citizens Clean Election Commision pamphlet, in which each candidate gets to make a brief statement about themselves. Both pamphlets were very helpful when making my choices on the sample ballot.

      I do not watch much TV, so I do not recall having not seen any campaign commercials, although I did watch the debates. Besides having also clipped out a few newspaper articles, I asked an almost 90 year old relative, who reads the newspapers much more thoroughly than I do, what she had read about the various candidates and propositions. After all of the above, making my final choices on the sample ballot was not too difficult.

  55. OH - Smooth other than the wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My precinct (the entire state?) ditched the paper sign-in books in favor of two computers. One was being used by 5 poll workers trying to find a single voter and the other was having trouble with a voter trying to cast a provisional ballot. The poll worker said something about the computer having trouble with people on her street. It caused the line to back up to the door. I spent more time waiting to get the card for the voting machine than I did actually voting.

    I overheard someone tell a poll worker the machine was indicating a vote she hadn't cast. She caught it in time to fix it.

    Many of the candidates in my area are running unopposed, including our representative in Congress.

    The people who inevitably gather outside polling places left me completely alone. I didn't get so much as an offer of a sample ballot or a "Vote xxx" from them.

    1. Re:OH - Smooth other than the wait by tylikcat · · Score: 1

      Not the entire state - my Cleveland Heights polling place was using paper sign in books.

      I really hope that issue two passes, and that it means we have more competitive districts and less of this candidates running unopposed or having the lock on certain regions - be nice to have folks working for their votes rather than free to be complete idealogues. I do rather suspect that if we get redistricting being handled in a non-partisan process we'll have at least a chance of getting some centrists in to office.

      (Mind you, I'm not particularly a centrist myself. But our process is pretty broken to a pretty embarrassing extent at this point.)

  56. NE - voted last week by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Early voting for all who want it in this state. All you have to do is request a ballot to be mailed to you, and you either mail it back or use the dropbox at your election office. Needed the time to do research beforehand as there were candidates and issues I wasn't really familiar with. Mostly looked at newspaper endorsements for help on those, but did look in other places as well. I'd say I spent about an hour on it.

    1. Re:NE - voted last week by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I should note also that although this state is more or less a "lock" for Romney, I still voted because I had interest in the senate race and one of the state issues. It's important to cast your vote on those "down-ticket" items even if you think or are sure your vote won't help your preference for president any. This is the system we are stuck with until somebody finally abolishes the electoral college.

  57. KS Early voted 2 weeks ago by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 0

    Thankfully, my lil' county still uses paper ballots & #2 pencils. I did have to show my drivers' license to prove I wasn't one of the billion brown horde flooding up from Mexico. Being Kansas, I wouldn't be surprised it they nightly toss out the early ballots deigned not RED enough.

    Prelude: About 2 months ago, I went into make sure I was still registered even though I had not moved or changed anything. The lady behind the counter found me in the roles and announced "Here you are: DEMOCRAT!" out loud, with the party said even louder, akin to a scene out of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. W.T.F.

    1. Re:KS Early voted 2 weeks ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      KS here. Also voted 2 weeks ago. Faxed in my request, received ballot by mail, filled out in pen and dropped it off at the election office. Easy peasy.

  58. No problems by EzInKy · · Score: 1

    Went in about 11am, showed my ID, signed my name, was given a paper ballot, marked my choices then fed it into the scanner. Took all of about 5 minutes total from entering the building to walking out with my receipt.

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  59. CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    San Mateo, CA: Electronic voting machines that printed out my selections on paper to inspect. The way it SHOULD done.

  60. VA - paper of course by sideslash · · Score: 1

    Having the knowledge that I could probably personally hack electronic voting machines if I studied them a while kind of freaks me out.

    Today everybody presented ID (first time in my experience this was required), and nobody seemed to have a problem. Very friendly, trust-engendering atmosphere. I love living in a rural area.

  61. CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The presidential race is a foregone conculsion out here, largely expected to favor the incumbent -- so the bigger battles have been over various ballot propositions, all of which can probably be best summarized thus:

    Regarding California Statewide Ballot Propositions and all the out of state money attempting to sway our votes -

    You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious."

  62. Voted a week and a half ago by sandytaru · · Score: 1

    Early voting ftw. There was a line at the time, but not a bad one. Afterward I went across the street and had a beer.

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  63. NC - Pretty much no line, no hassle by sirwired · · Score: 1

    There were two paths to the front entrance of my polling place: One involved going through the gauntlet of electioneers, the other right through the door. (Guess which one I chose.)

    Once inside, there were all of two people in line in front of me in the voter look-up line. While most of the voting booths were taken (crazy-long ballot today... lots of judicial and minor statewide positions up for election) there was no wait for one.

    Electronically scanned paper ballot; that's the format that makes the most sense to me. Electronic scanning for efficiency, paper backup for posterity.

  64. CA - Drop off Mail in Ballot by Chees0rz · · Score: 1

    Filled out ballot last night/ this morning. Drove down the street to the local fire station. Skipped the line and put my ballot in a pink bag (matched the envelope color so it Just Made Sense). Drove to work.


    this was around 8:30 am... line was only about 10 people deep.

  65. CA - took ten minutes to vote by levork · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No one in line ahead of me. Filled out paper ballot, fed ballot into Sequoia machine. My ballot was three pages, double sided - over ten propositions to vote on in California! Spent more than a hour doing research on them last night.

    Oh yeah, this is my first election! Newish American citizen - proud to exercise my right to vote :)

    1. Re:CA - took ten minutes to vote by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 2

      Oh yeah, this is my first election! Newish American citizen - proud to exercise my right to vote

      Congrats and thanks for taking the time to both research and vote :)

    2. Re:CA - took ten minutes to vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, he doesn't look Newish...

    3. Re:CA - took ten minutes to vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't care you who you voted for -- congratulations and thanks for voting!

    4. Re:CA - took ten minutes to vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you for understanding the meaning of civic duty.

      Also, congrats on having a slashdot ID that predates your citizenship by what, a decade?

    5. Re:CA - took ten minutes to vote by HebrewToYou · · Score: 1

      Congrats and well done. I had a similar experience in southern California. My polling place was in my building, one floor below me. I went down around 11 AM and was back in my apartment by 11:05 AM. It helped that I had filled my sample ballot out with my researched selections beforehand.

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  66. A lot of trouble by GameboyRMH · · Score: 0, Troll

    Went to polling station, black panthers were blockading the entrance, then the UN blue hats showed up and scared them off, that was nice but then they were watching us right near the booths...kinda makes you feel uncomfortable. On the way out I peeked through a door where I saw a guy with a laptop plugged into a disassembled voting machine, he was hammering away at a CLI and cackling maniacally.

    *trollface*

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  67. s/voter/voting/ by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 1

    You are not the one creating the fraud. The fraud is being thrown at you.

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  68. Nice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i used the provisional ballot at a polling place by my house, then by my kid's day care and at work during lunch

    just to make sure at least one will be counted

    I like a man who knows what he wants and how to get it. Nice.

  69. GA, Forsyth County by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    North end of Atlanta metro area. 90 second wait for my card, no wait for a voting machine, at about 0915. Total of less than ten minutes from getting out of my car to getting back in it. Electronic voting. No paper trail. :(

  70. OH by captainkoloth · · Score: 1

    I got in before the lunch crowd. It went quite smoothly

  71. Why I do not vote by vlm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why I Do Not Vote by Michael S. Rozeff

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/rozeff/rozeff224.html

    I'm voting for Johnson, and I live in a very close swing state, and I truly hope the balance hangs on less votes than the 3rd parties get, but I like Rozeff's article anyway.

    Two choice quotes by Mr Rozeff:

    "I don't believe in representative government under our Constitution. The Constitution has no legitimate authority over me. I have never signed off on it."

    "I do not wish to endorse a system that has produced and continues to produce what I think are pragmatically bad results."

    I particularly like the first quote. Kind of mind expanding. The D and R parties want to use the constitution as toilet paper, other than the R have been beating the drum for almost 5 years that Obama is a Kenyan, and that little clause about prez being native born is sacred, but the rest of the constitution and BoR is just used Charmin so don't worry about it. Yet in the long run, what do I care for or against the constitution, Like Rozeff writes, I never signed the damn thing anyway and if I wrote it, it would look a bit different. So as a thought experiment, say he came from Kenya, what do I care, the cleaning lady at work is an illegal el salvadorian and no one cares much and its not my rule, nor do I much care about that particular rule.

    There's been a couple other good articles along these lines on zerohedge recently, but I didn't save the links. Oh well.

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    1. Re:Why I do not vote by Microlith · · Score: 1

      Rozeff, in abstaining from participating, is part of the problem.

      I particularly like the first quote. Kind of mind expanding.

      It's about as sane as the people who believe they are a Sovereign Person. Just because you didn't sign off on it or disagree with it does not negate its authority.

      The D and R parties want to use the constitution as toilet paper, other than the R have been beating the drum for almost 5 years that Obama is a Kenyan, and that little clause about prez being native born is sacred, but the rest of the constitution and BoR is just used Charmin so don't worry about it.

      The Republicans acting like right hypocrites when it's not their guy in office? Say it ain't so.

      I'm trying to determine if you have a real point here, but am having a hard time doing so.

      So as a thought experiment, say he came from Kenya, what do I care, the cleaning lady at work is an illegal el salvadorian and no one cares much and its not my rule, nor do I much care about that particular rule.

      It's one thing to come and look for a job, it's another to represent a nation. Immigration laws need to be fixed, doesn't mean we should suddenly let people come in from outside to represent us.

    2. Re:Why I do not vote by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Rozeff is an idiot.

      You can not believe it doesn't have authority over you, but you are wrong. It's not m,ind blowing at all, it's a childish simpleton view and nothing more.

      And being US born is critical for many reasons. Maybe you should do constitutional research an actually educate yourself instead of by into some view of the world that sounds like it comes from some 15 year old trying to sound philosophical.

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    3. Re:Why I do not vote by vlm · · Score: 1

      I'm unimpressed with the two replies so far. He's an idiot, he's not sane, it's got authority just because (like a medieval magic scroll, the magic power comes from the ink or something), we shouldn't, he's part of the problem, he's wrong, its critical, for many reasons, he sounds 15 (actually he's an old man, even by my graying standards). No logical arguments against him at all. May as well be trying to recruit me to a religion.

      Rather than 10 lame knee jerk rebuttals, try just one real one. Just a tiny little one?

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    4. Re:Why I do not vote by Hatta · · Score: 1

      The crazy part about the Sovereign Person folks is that they think they can get away with it. An illegitimate government obviously doesn't care about sovereignty, so even if they are right they are going to get crushed.

      As for the legitimacy of the US government, I've never seen a good argument for it, and even if you accept the Constitution as legitimate the US government oversteps its constitutional authority so often that you really can't consider it legitimate on that basis. The only real argument for the legitimacy of the US government is that they have the power to destroy you if you disobey. Only if you accept that "might makes right" can you consider the US government legitimate.

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    5. Re:Why I do not vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mr. Rozeff is an idiot and dishonest.
      That stupid kind of thinking is exactly how 5 guys in robes selected the worst president in American History in 2000.
      Just because an 'independent', clueless, on the fence voter can't tell the difference between real change and a right-wing think tank created talking point like "class warfare" doesn't mean that 'both the parties are the same'. Suggesting both parties are the same simply highlights what a clueless twit 'independents' can be.
      Civics classes are our friend. So are history classes. So are geography classes.

    6. Re:Why I do not vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Politicians acting like right hypocrites when it's not their guy in office? Say it ain't so.

      FTFY

    7. Re:Why I do not vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The Constitution has no legitimate authority over me. I have never signed off on it." AKA Libertardian argument #7 (with minor variation)

      The standard rebuttal is here http://world.std.com/~mhuben/faq.html#contract

      Relevant portion follows.

      The constitution and the laws are our written contracts with the government.

      There are several explicit means by which people make the social contract with government. The commonest is when your parents choose your residency and/or citizenship after your birth. In that case, your parents or guardians are contracting for you, exercising their power of custody. No further explicit action is required on your part to continue the agreement, and you may end it at any time by departing and renouncing your citizenship.

    8. Re:Why I do not vote by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      So far as the constitutional authority goes he is bound to it by virtue of continuing to live under it's protection. Most national societies have a constitution or simliar document that codifies that societies rules. If you don't want to be a part of that simply leave it's area of affect and renounce citizenship from that nation. But if you choose to remain and hence derive direct benefit from participation in that society then you are voluntarily submitting to that societies laws. You may of course work towards changing those laws but it is critical for the function of society that the rule of law be maintained. The idea that any individual can exempt themselves from a law simply by disagreeing with it holds no validity in any social structure that I am aware of excepting the case of a totalitarian who is by definition usually above the local laws.

      The reason everyone else has responded with derision is because the above is usually obvious to everyone but small children that are still trying to figure out how social interactions work.

    9. Re:Why I do not vote by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      The constitution is an opt-out thing, just like the Do Not Call lists. Your continued residence implies acceptance. You don't like it, you emigrate to some place it doesn't apply. Don't let the screen door hit you...

    10. Re:Why I do not vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I don't believe in representative government under our Constitution. The Constitution has no legitimate authority over me. I have never signed off on it."

      Mind expanding, sure. It might be useful to remember you have to deal with other people; the majority of which seem to prefer order to anarchy. Pretending these laws won't have consequences for you will likely end up in disappointment. At least we live in a country where you can say things like that and will generally be ok as long as you pay your taxes.

    11. Re:Why I do not vote by PurplePhase · · Score: 1

      Twits.

      For the constitution to not apply to you, you need to leave the U.S.A. - politically if not physically: at the very least renounce your citizenship openly and formally to appropriate agents of the concerned parties.

      Anything other than that is lying to yourself. Unless, of course, you are formally protesting the U.S. government (and all contained political bodies) and are thereby not being a hypocrit by elicitly taking advantage of the benefits of said nation-state of which you do not wish to be a part.

      Otherwise blow it out your pie hole, uniformed gobstopper.

      8-PP

  72. FL the line was an hour long at polls open by Nadaka · · Score: 1

    polls opened at 7, it took me an hour in line before I could vote.

    There were some shenanigans with an elderly black guy in front of me not being on the register.

    Filled out both ballots (Florida has 11 constitutional amendments and a there were a dozen votes of confidence for local judgeship's.

    There was an electronic voting machine that no one used, cast a paper ballot on election day. Its more likely to get counted that way.

  73. NY - 2 hours long lines by idbedead · · Score: 1

    Few poll workers lots of voters (many who have no idea what they are doing). Long wait to check in and get ballot to feed the machine.

    1. Re:NY - 2 hours long lines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Few poll workers lots of voters (many who have no idea what they are doing). Long wait to check in and get ballot to feed the machine.

      Varies across the state, here outside Buffalo, western NY State, I've never experienced more than a few people in line (for ~40 years now.) NY was among the last to get rid of the nice old lever machines, which gave a reassuring "clunk" when the lever was set. Now have paper ballots--fill in the little circle with pen and feed into a scanner, looks like an older fax machine. Screen says "ballot scanned OK" or similar, a paper trail is in the saved ballots.

  74. Been There, Done That by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    VA - Filed registration 45 days ago, didn't take effect, told yesterday by three election offices to vote where I was previously registered, two hours of driving, turned away, told to file provisional ballot where I live, provisional ballot where I live must be defended.

    Apparently these guys made their money and did their job: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/virginia-voter-fraud-case-expands-to-focus-on-gop-firm/2012/11/02/76285252-24eb-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_story.html

    I've read about this happening to other people but can't believe it happened to me. Understand what voter ID laws are. They are voter fraud laws - they create voter fraud. Can't believe it happened to me.

    In Northern VA myself. Voted thrice in Minnesota and many times in Virginia. Have to say that Virginia requirements are ridiculous for voting and are almost designed to stop people who don't have their shit together from voting. In 2000 on the U of MN campus I was walking around campus on election day and outside they had a big thing setup for me to vote. I had my student ID and driver's license and that was all they needed to register me, take my vote and give me a voter registration ID! They asked if I had a utility bill and I told them I was living in a dorm room on campus. No further questions needed, just had to fill out a form.

    I arrive in September of 2004 in Virginia ... totally different story. After producing my birth certificate and about five other forms of documentation at a Virginia DMV, I get my VA license. A month later I check out what I have to do to vote. Guess what? You have to register 22 days before the election SO I was basically shit outta luck. Good thing I was able to absentee ballot for Minnesota (having recently moved).

    Seriously, I check five or six times each election year that my stuff isn't messed up on the VA voter website because if that stuff isn't accurate down to a T you aren't voting. One of my friends moved across town, showed up to his old precinct with his last residence on his voter ID card and his new residence on his driver's license. Aaaaaaand they wouldn't let him vote. The real kick in the pants was they told him that if he hadn't shown them his driver's license and he could have recited his old address, they would have let him through.

    So my experience today? Showed up at 5:45 am today. Waited until 7:15 am in line to vote. Voted on paper (line was much shorter than the electronic line) and was out. I only saw one advertisement on my way to vote: a portly fellow came in through the doors and removed his jacket to reveal a Romney/Ryan shirt upon the vast real estate of his chest. As he walked by he looked large and in charge. It should be noted he was only the former.

    Can someone tell me why voter registration can't happen at the polls?

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    1. Re:Been There, Done That by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Because it would allow people to wait for "provisional" results before deciding to vote, something the two parties in charge don't want. The excuses are about "fraud" and delays, but the problem with fraud is a red herring.

    2. Re:Been There, Done That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it would allow people to wait for "provisional" results before deciding to vote

      Wait ... what?! Can you explain how this is unwanted by either party?

    3. Re:Been There, Done That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It can in Canada,
      I have done it in multiple elections. Show up with proof of who you are, and that you live in in that district (Drivers licence) and they sign you in and hand you a ballot.

      I have no idea why americans make your elections so complicated. It seems its all done in the name of reducing fraud, but seems to only facilitate it.

    4. Re:Been There, Done That by chill · · Score: 1

      I'm also in Northern Virginia (westerly part), and had no issues.

      My wife finally got around to getting a Virginia DL and register to vote on the drop-dead date of October 15th. We got a phone call a week after wanting to clarify her middle name (on the DL, but not on the voter registration form). Her voter registration card showed up a week after that.

      She voted today without any problems. It was about a 45-minute wait at 7:30 a.m. this morning over in Front Royal area.

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    5. Re:Been There, Done That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound like Ayn Rand -- "people who disagree with my are physically ugly." sheesh. Go peddle your liberal prejudice somewhere else.

    6. Re:Been There, Done That by Mitt+Romney · · Score: 0

      From the Virginia voter registration form, any ONE of the following documents is required to register to vote:

      (1) current and valid photo ID
      (2) current utility bill
      (3) bank statement
      (4) government check
      (5) paycheck
      (6) other government document

      So your utility bill would have been fine.

      The document also states that the Voter ID card itself is adequate identification on election day. So you and everybody else complaining about this is full of shit.

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    7. Re:Been There, Done That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So your utility bill would have been fine.

      Yep, and I had just moved to VA so those utility bills were ... oh, right, non-existent! Oh and if you haven't registered for that address your utility bill will work as long as you have a time machine so you can go back in time 22 days and register to vote at that address. But yeah, just a utility bill, a fluxcapacitor and a fusion powered flying fucking stainless steel DeLorian. That's it. That's all you need. It's that simple when you're in a backwards Southern state.

    8. Re:Been There, Done That by Mitt+Romney · · Score: 0

      There is a legitimate need to make sure people live in the district and vote only once. What the fuck more do you want?

      Don't have a bill yet? Use your lease. Or your deed. Or a college record. Anything. If you have none of these, you're not a resident. And if it's all just too hard to figure out, there's a nice lady at the DMV who will wet nurse you through the whole process of filling out the form.

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    9. Re:Been There, Done That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hi, OP here. I am not full of shit. I moved 18 months before the election; this means it is illegal for me to vote at my old polling place. I cannot vote at my new polling place because I am not registered. I mailed a voter registration form, filled out in full, from my local post office in Reston a full month before the deadline. My registration was not processed. I cannot vote, no matter how many forms of id I show. I can only file a provisional ballot and then show up to defend it.
      Voter ID laws work. They prevent hard working, middle class voters who have lived in Virginia for years, people like me, from voting.
      If you want to talk, I'll be at the Fairfax County election board tomorrow fighting for my provisional ballot.

    10. Re:Been There, Done That by DanTheStone · · Score: 1

      Can someone tell me why voter registration can't happen at the polls?

      It can, you just live in the wrong state. Here in NH you can register at the poll. If you care, start working to change the rules in your state.

    11. Re:Been There, Done That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can someone tell me why voter registration can't happen at the polls?

      Iowa allows people to register to vote at the polls on the day of the election.
      http://sos.iowa.gov/elections/voterinformation/edr.html

    12. Re:Been There, Done That by Rotag_FU · · Score: 1

      In Northern VA myself. Voted thrice in Minnesota and many times in Virginia. Have to say that Virginia requirements are ridiculous for voting and are almost designed to stop people who don't have their shit together from voting. In 2000 on the U of MN campus I was walking around campus on election day and outside they had a big thing setup for me to vote. I had my student ID and driver's license and that was all they needed to register me, take my vote and give me a voter registration ID! They asked if I had a utility bill and I told them I was living in a dorm room on campus. No further questions needed, just had to fill out a form.

      I also lived in MN and am now in Virginia (SW). As you said, voting in MN couldn't be easier. However in VA, getting my initial voter registration was easy through the DMV, but when I moved to another VA city 30 minutes away, I found the process of changing my voter registration to be a huge hassle. While you can get your driver's license changed via an on-line method, you actually have to fill out a paper form and mail it in and wait weeks to change the voter registration. I had to do this twice before it actually took and I was left wondering if I'd actually get my card until about a month ago when it finally arrived in the mail.

      The effort to keep people from voting doesn't just stop there. My ballot consisted of 5 questions. President, congressional races, and 2 state amendments, that's it. In other states I would have at least 10 - 20 items to vote on. It appears that in VA (or at least my part of it), they push the vast majority of the ballot items to the off-cycle elections. I have to suspect that they do this because they know that the voter turn-out is decreased during those elections and presumably making it easier for the groups who do show up for the off-cycle elections to push their agendas.

      One last thing that I found annoying about the VA election process (or that which I experienced), is that the entire thing used a touchscreen interface until the very end. At the end, the screen tells you to push the vote button to lock in your selections. However, the vote button is not on the screen, instead it is a smallish physical button at the very top of the device. Admittedly the button is lit up and vote is written on it, but after going through the entire process via on-screen cues, it was not immediately obvious that I had to push a physical button. Luckily I found it, I wonder how many people thought they had voted, but did not find and press that button.

    13. Re:Been There, Done That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      . Have to say that Virginia requirements are ridiculous for voting and are almost designed to stop people who don't have their shit together from voting.

      Shouldn't all laws try and stop people who don't have their shit together? Oh, sorry, we live in a welfare nation under Barry Obama, the Kenyan Wonder-Muslim.

    14. Re:Been There, Done That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot poster confirms: Minnesota rules

    15. Re:Been There, Done That by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      I don't know. AllI know is that they've worked (together like friends) to block reporting of results before the polls close to prevent "taint" in the voting. I think they like the predictability. The two parties are closely aligned on 90% of the issues, and the focus is always on the 10% that don't agree to distract the voters from the fact that the average voter has a 50% compatibility with the agreed 90% and a 3rd party would be the best choice for almost everyone.

      tl;dr: It's all about the bread and circuses.

    16. Re:Been There, Done That by Solandri · · Score: 1

      Can someone tell me why voter registration can't happen at the polls?

      So someone doesn't go to one poll, registers, votes, goes to another poll, registers, votes, repeat.

      Remember, your ballot is not linked to your voter registration. Once your ballot drops into the box, it is anonymous and decoupled from any means to identify whose ballot it is. There's no way to separate out the multiple fraudulent ballots dropped in by someone perpetrating the above scam, so any fraud needs to be stopped before the actual vote. Hence the delay between registration and when you can actually vote. During the delay, they're verifying that yes indeed you are eligible to vote, and are switching your registration from your old voting precinct to your new one.

    17. Re:Been There, Done That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can someone tell me why voter registration can't happen at the polls?

      Probably because you could visit 10 different polling places and register at all of them and vote 10 times. By voting ahead of time, they can ensure that each subsequent registration replaces the previous one and that you're only eligible to vote at that single polling place.

    18. Re:Been There, Done That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have to say that Virginia requirements are ridiculous for voting and are almost designed to stop people who don't have their shit together from voting.

      Sounds like a feature to me, not a bug.

  75. IL - Voted absentee by Shadowhawk · · Score: 1

    Voted a week ago. Simple fill in the oval paper ballot.

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  76. OH - Mentor by drakaan · · Score: 1

    OH - Mentor - Went to the polls about an hour ago. There were 4 polling stations, each of which had a voter doing their thing...nobody waiting in line when I got there. Voted on a touchscreen that recorded a paper copy and gave a review screen to verify choices before you finished (same equipment as 2 years ago, I think). No technical or human problems that I saw. I'm confident that my vote was recorded correctly and could be audited successfully.

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    1. Re:OH - Mentor by whathappenedtomonday · · Score: 3, Interesting

      (same equipment as 2 years ago, I think)

      Not quite, according to salon.com, "uncertified, 'experimental' software patches have been installed on machines in 39 counties of the key swing state."

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    2. Re:OH - Mentor by drakaan · · Score: 1

      I'm fine with it. The hard copy matched what I entered. We all (in Ohio) know we're in for recounts regardless of whether the equipment is ok.

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    3. Re:OH - Mentor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      39 Ohio counties' TABULATION computers had "experimental" software patches installed in the past couple days. Enjoy your paper copy and think about who counts the votes.

    4. Re:OH - Mentor by DeadCatX2 · · Score: 1

      The "experimental" patches weren't applied to voting machines that the people voted on. Instead, they were installed on the central tabulators, one in each of the 39 counties. I dunno about you, but I'm a little concerned about uncertified, experimental software on a machine that counts all the votes for a whole county AND has read/write access to the central database.

      My concern has nothing to do with vote tampering and everything to do with the fact that software usually has bugs. That is what certification is for, to prevent buggy software from being deployed for important things like Presidential elections.

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    5. Re:OH - Mentor by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      That was reviewed and said to be fine by a judge already. The salon article is biased inflammatory BS. You should look for meaningful news elsewhere.

    6. Re:OH - Mentor by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      The software doesn't change the tabulation, it creates a cvs file based from the tabulated results that allows county and state officials easier access to the results. This was already reviewed by a judge and found to be harmless.

    7. Re:OH - Mentor by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      (same equipment as 2 years ago, I think)

      Not quite, according to salon.com, "uncertified, 'experimental' software patches have been installed on machines in 39 counties of the key swing state."

      Not quite? There are 88 counties in Ohio, so you have no idea whether this person used the same machine/software as two years ago. What I used today in Ohio sure looked to be the same as two years ago, right down to the crappy review page at the end. In truth, I have no idea, but you also can't say without more information.

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    8. Re:OH - Mentor by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      I'm fine with it. The hard copy matched what I entered. We all (in Ohio) know we're in for recounts regardless of whether the equipment is ok.

      I'm less worried about a "normal" recount than I am about the apparent margin of victory being well less than the number of provisional ballots cast. We're expecting a ridiculously large number of provisional ballots, which could ultimately prevent the election from being decided by tomorrow or even next week. I suppose if Florida somehow ends up being decided first and goes to Obama this will all be of little consequence.

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  77. OK - Noisy Harpy by AioKits · · Score: 1

    Wasn't terrible. Waited 1hr due to machine not wanting to accept ballots for like 20 minutes. Was in line behind an old, vocal harpy. She was easy to ignore in line, however when it was my turn to vote she got in the booth next to me. Her cell phone rang, she took the call and started an interesting conversation about how "Yeah, we gotta vote the President out! Oh, and for the OK Supreme Justices, we gotta vote them out too, they're all bad..." This went on for a few minutes, many of us around her telling her, "Ma'am, please don't do that." or "Please be quiet ma'am!" She was apparently part of some group here wanting to vote a certain way, no issues with that, but at least show the etiquette to not take the damned phone call in the booth!

    Can someone humor me, but aren't there rules against this kind of behavior as it can be seen as electioneering?

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    1. Re:OK - Noisy Harpy by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      I voted in Oklahoma, too. It was a 30 minute wait for me. I noticed that there were campaign posters on the grounds of the facility where I voted, a public school. I guess I don't know all the rules, maybe they just can't post within X many feet of the polling place, but I thought it was no posting on the grounds period.
      Not sure if the long line was due to more voter turnout or just fewer precincts. I voted in a different place than last election, so they may have consolidated some precincts to save money.

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  78. New jersey Email voting disaster by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

    "state of New Jersey has taken the unprecedented step of allowing displaced voters to cast their votes by e-mail "

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/11/risky-business-new-jersey-to-allow-e-mail-voting-in-storms-wake/

    "Aware of the problems with the official e-mail system, Essex County Clerk Christopher Durkin suggested an alternative option: "Displaced voters can email a request for a ballot at cj_durkin@hotmail.com," according to a post on the Facebook "

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/11/e-voting-chaos-nj-voters-sent-to-officials-personal-hotmail-address/

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  79. ... not allowed to vote due to id problems by ByOhTek · · Score: 0

    Well, I can't drive, doesn't mean I don't bother to get my state ID renewed.

    Your own fault.

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  80. NY-25 - Smooth run in Creationist Church by ZeroSerenity · · Score: 1

    Waltzed in, admired all the terrible science on the walls (including humans with dinosaurs), laughed a bit, got my ballot, filled it out, threw it into the scanning machine and realized it's only 7:12AM (Polls opened at 6AM). So yeah. It was probably the only time I'll ever get to admire (in a sarcastic sense) the nonsense peddled about this sort of thing without being kicked out for blashphemy.

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  81. OR - Dropped off my ballot yesterday by ssyladin · · Score: 2

    I live in Oregon and registered voters were mailed ballots about two weeks ago, along with a nice booklet with candidate-, party-, and interested-party-provided information. I was able to read and research in depth each of the candidates and measures and make an informed decision for each of my choices. Best and easiest ballot experience of my life. I could have mailed it in, but decided to drop it off at the local library instead. No lines, no muss, no fuss, no hanging chads or mis-calibrated touch screens. No pressure to vote quickly.

    1. Re:OR - Dropped off my ballot yesterday by __aagmrb7289 · · Score: 2

      OR as well - I mailed my vote over a week ago, and then had to take my ROOMMATE'S ballot in today to drop it off, 'cause she's too lazy to vote in a reasonable amount of time ;). Took about 15 minutes to get through the line in my car.

  82. IN - Indianapolis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Went before lunch. No line or wait. The polling place was almost full, but the polling workers were working efficiently. Had to show my drivers license. Paper ballot with electronic scanning and all the while there was a bell being rung off and on that signified first time voters I think. I had received a notice that the polling place location had changed in the mail last week, and there has been good news coverage to that affect as well - yes there is value to watching local evening news on network stations, OTA signals FTW.

    1. Re:IN - Indianapolis by Motard · · Score: 1

      I like this paper scanning system. We have the benefits of electronic voting with the auditability of paper.

    2. Re:IN - Indianapolis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had pure electronic, not a touch screen though there were buttons on the side. The process was quick, I was in line for 5min waiting for a booth.

  83. Columbus, OH Voter by SirLurksAlot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was in and out in about 20 minutes, so my experience was fairly quick. There was a Somali lady in front of me who might have had a more interesting time of it however. I made some small talk with her, and she told me it was her first time voting, as she had just married her husband, an American. I asked her if this was the "F - K" line and she nervously told me that yes it was, but kept repeating "This is the line, be careful, be careful!" as though they wouldn't let me vote if I accidentally got in the wrong line. She was both proud and afraid of the whole process. The interesting bit of this is that when her time came there was some activity, and I made out that she couldn't read the ballot, and wanted to know if her husband (who was also in line) could read it for her. I didn't hear the rest though, as it was quickly my turn at the polling station.

    I haven't had a chance to look up the pertinent law regarding whether someone else is allowed to read the ballot or not, but I would imagine this same scenario has played out many times over (This isn't an argument for or against ballots in multiple languages, just an account of a polling incident).

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    1. Re:Columbus, OH Voter by MozeeToby · · Score: 1

      I haven't had a chance to look up the pertinent law regarding whether someone else is allowed to read the ballot or not, but I would imagine this same scenario has played out many times over

      Literacy and sight are not requirements for voting. I don't think her husband can read the ballot for her (as he could pressure her or lie mislead her into voting the way he thinks she should, not as outlandish as you might expect) but someone at the polling station should have assisted her.

    2. Re:Columbus, OH Voter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With such a substantial Somali population, I am surprised Franklin County doesn't have alternative language ballots for them! (Although to become a citizen, they are supposed to be functional in English - and a ballot is just selecting a from a list of names)

      If I remember the Voter Rights Act of 1975, there are some a few specific minority languages that must be provided ballots if a substantial portion of the populace speaks that language. Obviously Native American languages, Alaskan Native languages, Spanish, and, I believe, East Asian languages. Offering a ballot in Arabic, although not required by Federal law, just seems sensible here because a large number of recent immigrants to Columbus can speak it and read it.

      It wouldn't be that expensive to do. Almost certainly, a bipartisan committee of bilingual volunteers could be selected to translate it. It's not as if the computers need an expensive font installed. (Why making that a law in 1975 was actually a pretty expensive unfunded mandate...but there's this thing called unicode now)

      I concur voting was pretty good this morning in town. (Upper Arlington myself. It was me and a bunch of housewives at 9) In and out in 30 minutes.

    3. Re:Columbus, OH Voter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ohio is the state where the secretary of state put in place the policy that completed voter registration forms would be refused unless they had been printed on a special rare cardstock. That secretary of state nearly ended up in jail for contempt of court because he refused to show up to the court challege of the legality of his policy.

      Now you expect these fixers to print ballots in Somali?

    4. Re:Columbus, OH Voter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are not. An election clerk needs to assist them.

      Husbands have a funny way of 'influencing' their wives votes otherwise.

    5. Re:Columbus, OH Voter by Solandri · · Score: 1

      In many countries with low literacy rates, they simply add a picture of the candidates next to their names.

  84. Northern VA: dual options by opentunings · · Score: 1

    Northern VA (at least) has both computerized machines and paper color-the-dots ballots. I did paper: I like having an audit trail of my vote. 150 or so people in front of me at 5:45 AM: was done and driving away at 6:15 (still AM).

    1. Re:Northern VA: dual options by David_W · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the thing that surprised me is how many people were standing in line to use one of the three touchscreen boxes. There were about six spots to record your paper ballot, and only half of those were taken when I sat down to fill mine out...

      Took me 30 minutes, including travel, at 2:30. Being able to work from home and vote in the afternoon is the best.

  85. Not voting, i'm not crazy. by Nyder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd vote, but then I heard that a definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over and hoping for a different outcome each time.

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    1. Re:Not voting, i'm not crazy. by MarkGriz · · Score: 1

      Well, there is a different outcome at most every 8 years, sometimes more often than that.

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    2. Re:Not voting, i'm not crazy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here. I'm voting in the local elections, but not the nationals. It's an act of protest. By taking part in the presidential election, I would be lending my approval to the process. Not going to do it this time.

    3. Re:Not voting, i'm not crazy. by mtrachtenberg · · Score: 1

      I'd vote, but then I heard that a definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over and hoping for a different outcome each time.

      So how is that not voting working out for you? Are you getting better winners?

    4. Re:Not voting, i'm not crazy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't vote. Let the special interests make your decisions for you. They have up to this point in your life.

    5. Re:Not voting, i'm not crazy. by curiousJan · · Score: 1

      I'd vote, but then I heard that a definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over and hoping for a different outcome each time.

      Okay, so let's get this straight ... you'll not be offering up anything resembling criticism or opinions of a political nature in the next 4 years. GREAT!

      Thanks for playing; people like you are part of the reason this system doesn't work as well as it could.

      FTFY

    6. Re:Not voting, i'm not crazy. by khallow · · Score: 1

      We are getting better whiners.

    7. Re:Not voting, i'm not crazy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not interested in your political opinions just because you voted. And I'm not going to ignore somebody's interesting ideas just because they didn't.

    8. Re:Not voting, i'm not crazy. by theswimmingbird · · Score: 0

      "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten."

    9. Re:Not voting, i'm not crazy. by inu_maru · · Score: 1

      >> I'd vote, but then I heard that a definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over and hoping for a different outcome each time.

      Nah, that's just QA...

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  86. Voting Machine Altering Votes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This video of a voter machine altering votes is making its rounds on social media.

    "My wife and I went to the voting booths this morning before work. There were 4 older ladies running the show and 3 voting booths that are similar to a science fair project in how they fold up. They had an oval VOTE logo on top center and a cartridge slot on the left that the volunteers used to start your ballot.

    I initially selected Obama but Romney was highlighted. I assumed it was being picky so I deselected Romney and tried Obama again, this time more carefully, and still got Romney. Being a software developer, I immediately went into troubleshoot mode. I first thought the calibration was off and tried selecting Jill Stein to actually highlight Obama. Nope. Jill Stein was selected just fine. Next I deselected her and started at the top of Romney's name and started tapping very closely together to find the 'active areas'. From the top of Romney's button down to the bottom of the black checkbox beside Obama's name was all active for Romney. From the bottom of that same checkbox to the bottom of the Obama button (basically a small white sliver) is what let me choose Obama. Stein's button was fine. All other buttons worked fine."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdpGd74DrBM&feature=player_embedded

    1. Re:Voting Machine Altering Votes by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

      I watched the video. It appears to be the same machine and software we are using here in SC, and the machine I was using did not alter any of my selections.

    2. Re:Voting Machine Altering Votes by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      I watched the video. It appears to be the same machine and software we are using here in SC, and the machine I was using did not alter any of my selections.

      ... and? That somehow refutes the video evidence?

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    3. Re:Voting Machine Altering Votes by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

      Did I say it refuted the video evidence?

    4. Re:Voting Machine Altering Votes by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Did I say it refuted the video evidence?

      That appeared to be the premise of your statement; otherwise, if that wasn't the point you were trying to make, why post anything at all? Boasting?

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  87. ID - Voted early on 10/27 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Waited in line for about 30 minutes for early voting on a Saturday.

  88. DE - just fine, mostly by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

    In and out, no problems. But the elderly lady who was there to assist me(?) was crowding me outside of the booth - just stepped inside my personal space while she was prepping/resetting the booth. It was kind of weird.

    Also the fact that they would stop and applaud random voters as they left the booth was really strange.

    1. Re:DE - just fine, mostly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In and out, no problems. But the elderly lady who was there to assist me(?) was crowding me outside of the booth - just stepped inside my personal space while she was prepping/resetting the booth. It was kind of weird.

      Also the fact that they would stop and applaud random voters as they left the booth was really strange.

      Yes, that is weird. You're supposed to get a cookie, a cup of juice and a place to rest for a minute, aren't you?

  89. Apparently, jovial idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently, jovial idiot is a poll worker job description.

  90. IA - a week ago by Newander · · Score: 1

    I went to the courthouse over lunch a week ago wrote my drivers license number on a form and got out in about 10 minutes. It took so long because the lady at the desk had to get my form from the back room.

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  91. FL - Not bad by The+Dancing+Panda · · Score: 1

    In Melbourne, FL (small city). Was in and out in 45 minutes, and everyone was friendly. Had a bunch of City Councilmen to vote on that I hadn't read into (and some I had). No other issues, really. I'm hoping I didn't misunderstand some of the statutes I had to vote on, but read into them twice over last night and this morning.

    1. Re:FL - Not bad by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      In Melbourne, FL (small city). Was in and out in 45 minutes, and everyone was friendly. Had a bunch of City Councilmen to vote on that I hadn't read into (and some I had). No other issues, really. I'm hoping I didn't misunderstand some of the statutes I had to vote on, but read into them twice over last night and this morning.

      The Florida constitutional amendments weren't really that hard to understand as long as you got someone to translate all the high-minded language into the intended effect. They all wanted to do one of the following.

      1. Remove another revenue source from the already tight tax rolls.
      2. Give religious groups another way to push their agenda and/or slurp up goodies from the public trough
      3. Allow politicians to meddle in places that historically were protected from political meddling.

      None of the amendments were from non-partisan or popular demand, they were all crafted by the State Legislature. Which at the moment is dominated by a single political party. You can probably guess which one by what the amendments call for.

  92. MA - no lines by drwho · · Score: 1

    In spite of what is being reported in the media, there were no lines. However, I didn't get an ' I voted' pin :(. The election machines were rinky-dink. paper? How primitive!

    1. Re:MA - no lines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lucky for you then! I voted in Somerville this morning and stood in line (outside) for an hour before voting. Uneventful, just really busy this morning.

  93. WA- 100% vote by mail by DrData99 · · Score: 1

    Voted weeks ago.

  94. NM 5 minutes and a paper ballot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I early voted last week. I had an option of going to any of the polling locations. Showed up, gave my name and year of birth, and was asked to verify my address and sign on a little machine to confirm. My ballot was printed on a laser printer, took it to a little booth, filled in the ovals. Once done, took the ballot to another room with four scanning machines. I put the ballot in a scanning machine myself (any orientation!), waited for the number to increment, then picked up my "I Voted Today" sticker and headed home. Five minutes total, no hassles, and there's a written record of my vote. My only complaint? The voting booths were obviously meant for standing in front of some sort of machine, so sitting in a chair and filling in the ovals was a bit awkward.

    New Mexico has its issues, but we seem to have this voting thing worked out.

    1. Re:NM 5 minutes and a paper ballot by Gary · · Score: 1

      Same experience. I'm not sure if it's state wide, but being able to vote at any polling place is fantastic. I have to give major props to the Bernalillo County clerk she's done a hell of a job.

  95. Lakewood CO by danlip · · Score: 1

    Voted at 9 am, no line, paper ballot, polling place was about 0.1 miles from my house.

  96. TX - no photo id, paper ballot by Sez+Zero · · Score: 1

    The Texas photo ID law has been a big deal lately, but I voted just fine with just my paper voter ID card, as always.

    I was asked, "Do you prefer a paper or electronic ballot?"
    "Which is faster?"
    "Well, you see there's a line for the two electronic voting machines, but I can give you a paper ballot right now".

    I had filled out my paper ballot and was out of there before the first person in the electronic line got to a machine. The paper ballot scanner showed 156 votes, about 9 AM this morning, so you can tell this is a pretty small town.

    1. Re:TX - no photo id, paper ballot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (Also TX.) There were signs on the door of our polling place (elementary school auditorium) indicating that the photo-ID law was not active. I voted with my voter ID card, my stepdaughter brought her SS card instead which confused the poll worker but also had her drivers license which cleared it up.

      Paper ballots only. No line at midday. Ballot scanner showed 368 votes which is half to two-thirds of typical turnout in this precinct.

      Lots of judicial races, several with only one candidate. Stepdaughter forgot the back side of the ballot and thus didn't get to vote for bond issues.

  97. OH - small town by mdarksbane · · Score: 2

    Went around lunch time. No one in front of us in line. Talked to our neighbors who were volunteering about new babies and hunting while my wife voted. We would have been in and out in five minutes if we didn't feel like socializing.

    I love voting in this district. It always just seems like a nice way to be social and get to know the community. Really too bad they don't put in enough polling stations in urban areas to get that same feeling. Feels like there ought to be a couple machines in every subdivision or big apartment building.

  98. MS - voted at 7am when polls opened - easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spent a few hours researching local, state, and national candidates. Lines were moderate but were moving steadily. Electronic voting machines were self-explanatory.

  99. SC: 2 Hours In Line by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

    It took me about 2 hours to get through all the lines and cast my vote in our heavily-Democratic city.

    Other than a few disruptions from misbehaved children, things were mostly smooth.

  100. Been great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been telling all the frustrated democrats that if the lines are too long or you forgot your ID. Vote tomorrow. The lines will be much shorter and they won't even need to see your ID.

  101. MD - Gary Johnson by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's hopless here, but I'm voting for Gary Johnson anyway. I just want to see a black mark on the paper, a margin that says "OBAMA WINS!!" with barely over a third of the nation behind him. Maybe one day we'll see stats that make people think: maybe these two assholes aren't our only option. Maybe one day we'll stop worshipping the constitution, burn it, and become 50 separate countries with our own currency and economic robustness, and let Europe take over the one-big-currency-one-big-problem market. Maybe we'll burn it and rewrite it with a parliament so if 10% of us vote for Libertarians or Greens or Nazis then we have to fill in 10% of the Senate and House with Libertarians or Greens or Nazis. Maybe we can get a pluralist presidency where if you don't have 50% we eliminate all until the combined votes bring the lowest to above the second place, and then try again until it's 1 on 1.

    Our constitution dictates a system of government which creates a system by which we believe we only have two options (look how old the Republicans and Democrats are). The only way is to rewrite it. Then the people can chose.

    1. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm all for AV systems but do you honestly think that most of the American states could possibly survive as independent nations? It's easially imagninable for something like a hurricane to cause more damage to a state like RI than its entire GDP could cover. The union is one of necessity. If you're going to propose breaking it up we would have to unify a lot of the tiny states or it just wouldn't work. Regardless, the idea of an independent Alabama with weapons of mass destruction terrifies me.

    2. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Our constitution dictates a system of government which creates a system by which we believe we only have two options (look how old the Republicans and Democrats are).

      No, it doesn't.

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    3. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      A system of government which creates. Our constitution dictates that the plurality wins. That means if you have 25% of the vote and there's 25 other players with 4% of the vote each, YOU WIN even though 75% of the country hates you. That means that if we stay homogeneously distributed, the country cannot reflect political power: unless all the libertarians move to their own state, they won't get any representation in government.

      Because of this, a two-majority system is inevitably created. Once there's more support for two parties than the third parties, the third parties are no longer reflected. We have one or two independents by luck, yet Gary Johnson (Libertarian) has over 5% of the popular vote in this country NOW and we won't get any Libertarian party seats. By rights there should be 5 senate seats for the Libertarian, maybe 1-2 for the Greens (did that woman get enough votes to hit 1%?), and the rest Democrat/Republican to represent the country. Or some such thing.

      Further, many people won't vote for a third party because a third party cannot WIN. That means polling representation is incorrect. People won't vote for a Libertarian, a Green, or a Socialist because these people don't win elections and so they would be "throwing their vote away." They happen to be right: If 20% of the vote goes in one direction for the President, for the local governor, for the house, the senate, etc, in EVERY SINGLE ELECTION across the country, someone else wins. A lot of Democrats are elected to the house and senate with 60%-80% of the vote, with 20%-40% going to the Republicans. The opposite happens as well. It could line up; often the balance is shifted such that it no longer represents the actual distribution of political views of the population, and in some occasions the balance of power (i.e. the majority vote or lack thereof) is shifted.

      Incorrect representation. Our political system guarantees that significant minority parties will have difficulty gaining traction even with sizable support, and that a scattered but large will-of-the-people will simply disappear and fail representation. This makes third parties uninteresting to most, solidifying us on a two-party system without codifying it in law.

    4. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Maybe one day we'll see stats that make people think: maybe these two assholes aren't our only option. Maybe one day we'll stop worshipping the constitution, burn it, and become 50 separate countries with our own currency and economic robustness

      What advantage would dissolving the union have?

      Also, if there was less state-autonomy, the two party system would take a giant hit. A 60% majority in a state can use that power to allocate it's electoral votes in mass, as opposed to proportionally (as well as gerrymander to keep a 75% majority in the legislature and in the US House.) So the other 40% of the votes go to their party.

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    5. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      That's all fair and well, but it doesn't change the fact that the statement you made to which I originally responded was factually incorrect. If it weren't, we'd still be voting for Whigs and Federalists.

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    6. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by Kiyyik · · Score: 1

      Maybe one day we'll stop worshipping the constitution, burn it, and become 50 separate countries with our own currency and economic robustness

      Tried that already. Called the Articles of Confederation. It didn't go well.

    7. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by el+jocko+del+oeste · · Score: 1

      The Constitution doesn't explicity require that there be only two parties. But the mechanisms that are explicitly required will almost inevitably lead to a two party system. The founding fathers failed to achieve their objective on that.

    8. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Dissolving the union would make us not behave like the Roman Empire, the French Empire, the USSR, or the European Union--that is, an administrative and economic disaster.

      Our multi-level government is a complicated, expensive mess. Our monolithic currency ensures that a good, well-functioning economy in one state is disadvantaged by another big state failing hard (i.e. California). Basically we have the same problem as Europe: if Greece falls, the Euro loses value, which will push Italy and Spain over the edge, which will further distort the value of the Euro, which will crash the economies of all the wealthy and successful states of the EU.

      As a single, monolithic government, we're faced with such overreach as illegal marijuana everywhere--the states that legalize it get raided periodically by the Federal Government--or socialized healthcare, socialized retirement (we could discuss the economics of retirement all day; it's not a simple topic), mass curtailing of basic human rights (TSA, PATRIOT, etc), and so on. If you don't like Obamacare, you can't just move to Vermont or Wisconsin. If you don't like gay marriage, you could get the Federal Government to pass a law legally not recognizing it--if the conservative center of the country becomes active enough for 2 years, they could throw up new Senators and Representatives and have a federal ban on adoption without a recognized opposite-sex marriage in good IRS standing ("Healthy Family Act", proscribing a functional actual family for raising children if you want to adopt--an actual family has a mother AND a father), and any gay couples trying to adopt could be fined, they could be jailed for filing an unrecognized union as "married" with the federal IRS, etc, and you couldn't just move to California where they're faggot-friendly because the Big Government doesn't like faggots and will find you and put you in pound-my-faggot-ass prison to preserve the sanctity of God's pure earth. Texas did it; we had a Texan President that tried to pass a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage; what if a Texas senator convinced the union to implement a constitutional law against gay buttfucking, carrying prison time?

      The same thing is wrong with big continental or whole-world governments that's wrong with super-monopolies.

    9. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      This is what I'm talking about. I didn't sentence you to death, but I did exile you to a desert where water is only present once every hundred years.

      This is why a parliament is better. Represent based on the political party leanings of the people. Still wrong, but allows routine vast political shifts.

    10. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the Federal Government declared war because it's a tyrannical empire.

    11. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      You keep saying things like "If you don't like Obamacare, you can't just move to Vermont". You seem to ignore that you could move to Canada, or Germany, or whatever. I posit that the only reason moving from one state to another seems so easy is because of the centralized government.

      Fact is, states are far more likely to vary in economic fortune, than be continuously a drag on the country... in the 80's Texas needed a lot of help from the federal government, and now they give back.

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    12. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Actually back in the day you had to have a passport to move from state to state. There was a federal government, but they didn't surmise that you should be able to enter Virginia just because you were in Maryland.

      Variation is the problem. Texas didn't get any help from the Federal Government in the 80s; they got money from taxpayers in various states. Instead of a few tens of millions of people in Texas having a bad time, hundreds of millions of people in the US had a bad time. What will the modern day US do if California goes bankrupt? Karl Marx had an idea about that... if you bring down an economy hard enough, it's unlivable; the only way to 'save' it is to move to total communism. Well if California goes bankrupt, the US Federal Government can't help much, but probably will try anyway; the strain on the US economy will collapse it, and then what? We all get to live in an economic disaster like the Great Depression (it could get worse, but GD was pretty bad) or we can demand the Federal Government fix it--which is done by instating communism.

      We're coupled together like that. So is Europe.

      Also if you move to Germany you get Germancare. If you move to Canada you get Canadacare. The US was one of the last places with a private healthcare system that's not a third world country, and instead of fixing the brokenness that makes certain people [liberals] mistakenly believe that private healthcare simply doesn't work (rather than holding to a belief that healthcare is simply an 'essential service' that the state should provide--a philosophical point that's neither technically correct nor incorrect), the US got insurance regulations to hobble poor people into the broken healthcare system.

      The US. All of it. Not several states, not one or two, not all but one hold-out. All of it. They got it wrong and they got it wrong across the whole god damn country; at least if all 50 states implemented healthcare systems they'd have the opportunity to do different things, and if one sucked you could move to the next state or that state could rewrite its healthcare laws. Or you could move to Germany or Canada or whatever. Or you could move to whatever US state has all the people who want simple private healthcare flocking to it, and wait for the public healthcare law to be repealed.

      The US is too big to be one empire.

    13. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Texas didn't get any help from the Federal Government in the 80s; they got money from taxpayers in various states. Instead of a few tens of millions of people in Texas having a bad time, hundreds of millions of people in the US had a bad time

      Of course Texas got help from the federal government. And of course the same amount of pain was spread among 100 million people instead of 10 million. So each person suffered 1/10 as much. (Actually, due to feedback loops, the total pain also lessened.) That seems like a good thing.

      And of course, Texas, which recovered from help with the aid of the federal government is now going to help New Jersey, just like it once helped New Orleans.

      Variations do to random chance are bad for everyone. Esp. business. Hence the trillion dollar industry of ameliorating chance, via insurance, derivatives, etc.

      Karl Marx had an idea about that... if you bring down an economy hard enough, it's unlivable; the only way to 'save' it is to move to total communism

      Do you honestly think that there is a communist plot? Or that it would still harkin back to 100+ year old tactics.

      Well if California goes bankrupt, the US Federal Government can't help much, but probably will try anyway; the strain on the US economy will collapse it, and then what?

      Well, the total California debt is half of what they pay annually in income taxes to the US government. Just income taxes. So, you know, it's something where the feds could absorb the debt and still have a net positive after three years.

      We're coupled together like that. So is Europe.

      Europe isn't coupled like we are. When Texas had trouble in the 80's, everyone pitched in, and the crisis was halted before it spread. When Greece had trouble, there was no shared European sacrifice. That pain then spread to other countries. Even Spain, which was running surpluses up until Greece started fucking up, got into trouble.

      Also if you move to Germany you get Germancare. If you move to Canada you get Canadacare. The US was one of the last places with a private healthcare system that's not a third world country

      So, two questions: Isn't that a sign that we might be doing it wrong. Second, all you're doing is pushing the problem down one level. What happens once the 50th state passes a healthcare law you don't like: counties should be independent!

      Also, leaving aside the very real economic analysis that shows health care is pretty much a textbook case of a free-market failure (see also, utilities), it's still private. You're just forced to participate. You still get to choose blue cross, or kasier or whatever.

      All of it. They got it wrong and they got it wrong across the whole god damn country; at least if all 50 states implemented healthcare systems they'd have the opportunity to do different things, and if one sucked you could move to the next state or that state could rewrite its healthcare laws.

      But, they are doing exactly what you want. Mass. pioneered a program. It looked good, so it got promoted up to a national one. But the national mandate has a strong state-by-state process. Vermont thought they could improve on it with a single-payer system, so they're doing that.

      I'm hardpressed to say that the national elements of the law (people must pay towards healthcare, and as a result cannot be denied healthcare... due diligence is required upfront instead of retroactively, etc.) are in any way in dispute or location specific.

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    14. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Do you honestly think that there is a communist plot? Or that it would still harkin back to 100+ year old tactics.

      Well, that's one way to look at it. There are other ways to look at it, but they essentially mean the same thing minus intent. Think like FDR's reaction to The Great Depression, or Obama's reaction to the collapse of the banks and auto industry. Government money, government plans, government driving the economy--that's socialism leading into communism. In this case one or both of two things happened: A) the government lacked desire to move into communism, and so didn't advance control; and/or B) it wasn't bad enough to justify a move into deeper government economic control. But the two options were "severe hardship and natural recovery" or "lessened hardship and government control", with the lessened hardship likely prolonged and spread out and the government control possibly term-limited (term-limiting was itself an option--could have just gone straight to full-blown socialism).

      Well, the total California debt is half of what they pay annually in income taxes to the US government. Just income taxes. So, you know, it's something where the feds could absorb the debt and still have a net positive after three years.

      That statement is a huge logical disconnection that doesn't make sense. You gave zero numbers but a logical statement with no substantiation; I'll make up numbers to show that statement could indeed be false. Let's say that California pays, oh, $300 billion in income taxes and is $150 billion in debt. Now let's say California is in debt because they're running in the red (well, that's how you get into debt). California imports both power and water. They need to run state unemployment. They need to run education. Maintain highways. State administration. All that tallies up to slightly over, say, $50bn; but then California takes 15% in taxes and that's slightly less than $50Bn.

      Cali goes bankrupt because they can't pay down $150Bn. The state is bankrupt: it can't take loans. It can't afford to pay unemployment, import power, something. Things are cut, bigger rolling black-outs. The Federal Government takes $1,000Bn in taxes, now $850Bn--that's like 15%, that's big since they spend $1,200Bn every year and now they're racking up debt FAST. But of course since unemployment in Cali isn't being paid, the Fed takes less in taxes. Damage to business interests in California slow business activity--the costs add up, the businesses pay less in taxes by taking less income and taking bigger deductions. That means even less income. Inter-state commerce is affected, so businesses in nearby states and far-off states that trade with California have more minor issues. Shipping becomes a problem. California hasn't fallen off the face of the earth, but things have become difficult.

      Oops. Logic.

      So, two questions: Isn't that a sign that we might be doing it wrong.

      Every civilized, educated person also knows that fire is required for light. Does that mean Edison was doing it wrong?

      I could start listing fallacies but it's a compound. Basic one is false dilemma: you're assuming either socialized healthcare or privatized healthcare is "correct" or "better," but really it's in implementation.

      Second, all you're doing is pushing the problem down one level. What happens once the 50th state passes a healthcare law you don't like: counties should be independent!

      But we have 50 healthcare systems where one is better than another, and the states can more easily adjust their healthcare systems to eliminate and avoid deficiencies and to utilize better strategies as they experiment to correct their problems or recognize useful implementations in the other states. Imagine the US--all of it, the Federal government--acting like France right after the French Revolution. It'd be insane.

      Als

    15. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      You gave zero numbers but a logical statement with no substantiation; I'll make up numbers to show that statement could indeed be false. ...Oops. Logic.

      I didn't bother to read your made up numbers. Cause I wasn't making a magic fairy tale hypothetical world argument. I wasn't basing things on logic... I used real numbers and math

      Current Cali debt < 700b. Current Cali income taxes > 375b. Current Cali budget from feds < 100b. It's simple math. You projected a lot of things, but the truth is that California's entire state budget could come from the federal government , the federal government could assume all of California's debt, and still turn a profit after a decade... even ignoring state income tax

      Every civilized, educated person also knows that fire is required for light. Does that mean Edison was doing it wrong?

      Hey, I'm fine with someone saying conventional wisdom is wrong. But you have the direction confused. Everyone started with a system like ours. Then, slowly, one by one, they converted over to the system.

      Also, people weren't crazy wrong. Extreme heat was required. Edison discovered that a proper filament being heated, and in an oxygen-free environment, could provide light without catching fire. It was a brilliant evolution of thought. Much like moving to a state-run health care system.

      Basic one is false dilemma: you're assuming either socialized healthcare or privatized healthcare is "correct" or "better," but really it's in implementation.

      I'm assuming that the implementation of a socialized healthcare system is better than the implementation of a privatized healthcare system, because, all other things being equal, it is.

      Just like I'm assuming that the implementation of a retirement plan of diversified assets is better than the implementation of a retirement plan of buying tons of lottery tickets. And I do that in spite of the fact that the lottery ticket implementation could be better. Could be way better.

      I don't expect an implementation of private health care to be better. It meets tons of definitions for market failure: uninformed consumers, inability to shop around, inelastic demand... in fact, healthcare and insurance are two of the three textbook examples of market breakdown (the other being utilities).

      But we have 50 healthcare systems where one is better than another, and the states can more easily adjust their healthcare systems to eliminate and avoid deficiencies and to utilize better strategies as they experiment to correct their problems or recognize useful implementations in the other states.

      But that's the case under the new federal regulations. It just sets some ground rules (which you don't seem offended by, because you ignored them when I brought them up), and some goals. Each state is encouraged to "do whatever" to meet those goals.

      The bigger complaint I've heard is that, since the states don't want to innovate, they are all paying to implement the same infrastructure as opposed to sharing.

      Which as I said is an example of poor implementation. The state is forcing me to buy things from robber barons who now are going to try to convince the state they need to overcharge people while the state spends money making a valiant effort to stop the robber barons from overcharging people too much.

      Yup, I'd prefer a single-payer system too. Oh wait, I can just move to Vermont where there are no insurance companies and there is single-payer.

      Exactly what I want is for the states to be allowed to opt-out of the whole thing entirely, and to not be prevented from going their own direction with their own plans.

      They cannot opt out. They have to reach certain goals, and are given some limitations. But they have a ton of freedom.

      Frankly, I'm kinda pissed they didn't just put a single-payer system into place... let people pay for whatever they want on the side, and be done with it.

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    16. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Everyone started with a system like ours. Then, slowly, one by one, they converted over to the system.

      Everyone started as godless shitbags banging rocks together in the street, but then they found religion. Some of them (a lot of them) found religion like Judaism or Islam, where we stone people to death or behead them for minor things. Alcohol wasn't islam-illegal until some time in the 1400s.

      Progress: we now execute people for consuming whiskey. This is better.

      Also, people weren't crazy wrong. Extreme heat was required. Edison discovered that a proper filament being heated, and in an oxygen-free environment, could provide light without catching fire. It was a brilliant evolution of thought. Much like moving to a state-run health care system.

      False, we have a lot of cool lights. I have a nightlight that emits a glowing green light but no heat. LEDs emit less heat. CFLs vaporize mercury still; CRTs used phosphorus and electron beams, which involved no actual fire.

      Energy was required and the lowest state of energy tends to be heat--typically when something absorbs light, movement, etc, the energy is converted to heat--so all loss makes things warm. That is not the same thing as fire.

      You false-equivalate the progression to electric lights with the progression to a state-run healthcare system as both being advancements. It's doubly-wrong since gas lighting is better than electric lighting in some ways--particularly health (sleep cycle) and particularly for the production of warmth in the winter as a bi-product--and since gas lighting can be made safe just as electric lighting can.

      I'm assuming that the implementation of a socialized healthcare system is better than the implementation of a privatized healthcare system, because, all other things being equal, it is.

      It is impossible for all other things to be equal by definition. Obamacare is a chain of insurance regulation laws and other such shit, which relies substantially on a privatized healthcare system but gives guarantees that everyone will be covered--that means the robber barons have an easier time overcharging and nice, shiny, friendly rules to maximize their abuse of. As you fix these problems, you extend more government control out until you completely eliminate any resemblance of the two systems. And it could end up very wrong.

      But that's the case under the new federal regulations. It just sets some ground rules (which you don't seem offended by, because you ignored them when I brought them up), and some goals. Each state is encouraged to "do whatever" to meet those goals.

      Then in my state "Whatever" equates to "do nothing" and we rely on the same system, nobody uninsured pays the mandatory penalty for not carrying insurance, insurance companies running in Maryland don't have to follow the Federal regulations, and healthcare providers are similarly unaffected.

      They cannot opt out.

      Then they can't do whatever.

    17. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Progress: we now execute people for consuming whiskey. This is better.

      Stupid pedantic point, but it is better than the original state when people were killed just cause. But, in case you didn't notice, only one western country tried outlawing alcohol, and it lasted like 15 years. Then it was undone because it was a stupid idea.

      And notice how stonings, etc. don't happen anymore in western countries. In fact, you brought that up just because it's shocking and we don't do it anymore.

      It went: Stone Everyone->Stone people over little things->Stone people over alcohol->Stone no-one

      False, we have a lot of cool lights.

      Yeah, but Edison didn't. I'm not saying that people weren't wrong about fire, I'm saying Edison didn't prove them wrong.

      But it still holds that people were saying "fire makes light", and later discovered "non-fire makes light". Totally different concept. Non-market forces work better. Everyone else noticed this. Maybe a revolutionary way of using market forces would work. So... what would that revolutionary way be?

      And seriously, you just seem to move the goal-posts around like crazy. You say you need laboratories of democracy; fine. All you need to do is provide health care for all - poor and those with preexisting conditions. You can go single-payer. You can have private companies compete.

      But there is no way you can have people with pre-existing conditions able to sign up if they can just sign up when they get sick without making insurance a meaningless concept. I mean, the market failure there is self-apparent... people with pre-existing conditions drive up the cost of insurance, which drives up the price, which drives out the people getting the least benefit- the healthiest, which drives up the per-person cost, which drives up the per-person price...

      It's why buying insurance in bulk is such a good deal.

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    18. Re:MD - Gary Johnson by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Stupid pedantic point, but it is better than the original state when people were killed just cause. But, in case you didn't notice, only one western country tried outlawing alcohol, and it lasted like 15 years. Then it was undone because it was a stupid idea.

      You just can't admit that people doing something new doesn't make the new thing better or the old thing worse, can you?

      And notice how stonings, etc. don't happen anymore in western countries. In fact, you brought that up just because it's shocking and we don't do it anymore.

      It went: Stone Everyone->Stone people over little things->Stone people over alcohol->Stone no-one

      That's because a large portion of the planet has moved onto decapitation. It's also, more importantly, not true. Even the crucifiction thing in Egypt was just an elaborate hoax; stoning is the modern method.

      Yeah, but Edison didn't. I'm not saying that people weren't wrong about fire, I'm saying Edison didn't prove them wrong.

      Moving goalpost.

      Maybe a revolutionary way of using market forces would work. So... what would that revolutionary way be?

      You've been arguing that this simply isn't the case, rather than asking the important question. I'll give an answer after a quick non-sequitur...

      And seriously, you just seem to move the goal-posts around like crazy.

      Nah, I'm just disorganized. Argumentation is about sounding smart by looking organized and being well-spoken; I've never been organized.and I elucidate poorly.

      Anyway to answer the above, I've been bouncing crap around in my head but haven't found an opportune time to just dump this: scropion vaccine. In Mexico, $250 at pharmacy. In the US, $3750 to the distributor, $3950 to the hospital, and $35,000 per dose to the patient. $50,000/year HIV maintenance drugs are like $200/year in Africa for the same exact shit from the same company. Open heart surgery--supplies, electricity, equipment, salaries--costs about $5000, but the bill is closer to a quarter million.

      Some regulations are needed. Some regulations are very bad and wrong. In the US we tend to get the regulations that increase barrier to entry and destroy small business, while either slightly irritating or outright helping large, hostile businesses. Republicans scream regulation is bad, Democrats scream regulation is good, nobody wants to talk about what KIND of regulation. Obamacare is one kind and, in fact, you and I have both agreed that it's the wrong kind--the dispute is simply over WHY it's the wrong kind.

      All you need to do is provide health care for all - poor and those with preexisting conditions. You can go single-payer. You can have private companies compete.

      Pre-existing conditions creates the problem that we have to assume the pre-existing conditions in the risk pool, making healthcare much more expensive--insurance is about risk balance, and really lopping off the low hanging fruit. It's not about wealth redistribution. This becomes an issue even when you publicly fund everyone's insurance--the poor people in the system increase the risk, so premiums must increase to compensate. Sec, I'll get to that.

      The reason poor people increase risk--and this is important, so pay attention and save forming counter-arguments for a second read-through--is because they get sick more. Poor people are culturally different; they're our neighbors, our sons and daughters, all that jazz, but they're different. They're poor, and a poor life requires different behaviors to survive. Rich and middle class people are EXTREMELY extracted; the middle class and the rich think the poor are all thieves and criminals--plenty are-

  102. OH - On the states Rep/Dem border by lbmouse · · Score: 1

    People are crazier than a bag of snakes. Guy tried to run me off the road I'm assuming because of my bumper sticker.

    1. Re:OH - On the states Rep/Dem border by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      That's why you don't put political advertisements or statements on your car. It's like a psycho magnet.

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    2. Re:OH - On the states Rep/Dem border by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's why you don't put political advertisements or statements on your car. It's like a psycho magnet.

      Generally agreed.. the only sticker on my vehicle aside from the EFF is Heckler and Koch.

    3. Re:OH - On the states Rep/Dem border by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Yea, I've got my FSF sticker but that's it. The antennas and such should fill the same space your H&K sticker does.

      (all black car with antennas all over it? hmm yea, lets not mess with that one)

      Bonus if I'm wearing my HT and speakermic when I get in/out.

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  103. NJ -- elections always run smooth by jbolden · · Score: 1

    NJ they have lots of polling places. Sample ballots are mailed out a week or two ahead of time. The voter lists are well maintained and the machines work well.

    1. Re:NJ -- elections always run smooth by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

      It wasn't as smooth for me in NJ as it normally is. My polling place was changed because Sandy knocked out the power at the usual place. Fortunately I checked the town website and knew about the change before going to vote.

      The actual voting process was smooth as usual. No real line, in and out in 15 minutes.

      Places that have long lines are seriously broken. 4 hours on line? I call shenanigans on that.

  104. Re:FU - This isn't MF Twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ERROR: your state has not been recognized. Your vote will be assigned to the other candidate:)

  105. MI, IN, IL 3 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OK, So only the part about voting three times in IL is the truth...

  106. Good! Stay home you good for nothing 47%'er! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    ... I'm on disability.

    I said oh well, not like voting matters anyhow due to electoral college bullshit and went home

    You free loading losers have no business voting! Why you're the cause of our deficit - you and those pink Cadilack driving welfare mothers!

    Thankfully, were all educated really good here in georiga! and were gonna have Romney elected!

    Vote Republican and save America from that socialist Muslim!

    1. Re:Good! Stay home you good for nothing 47%'er! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vote Republican and save America from that socialist Muslim!

      Spoken like a true white trash idiot.

      By the way, I am white and I am ashamed at the existence
      of scum like you.

    2. Re:Good! Stay home you good for nothing 47%'er! by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      I hope you know he was being facetious.

      90% of the people i see claiming Obama is a Muslim are democrats trying to make fun of people identifying with the tea party with little success. In fact, if it wasn't for most of the democrats keeping this alive, it would have likely died a long time ago.

  107. OH suburbs - waited 45 minutes by dejaffa · · Score: 2

    OH suburbs - waited 45 minutes early this morning to vote on a hybrid machine (electronic UI, writes on a paper tape that I could see).

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  108. TX - Fort Worth by bobthesungeek76036 · · Score: 1

    Voted during early voting (first day). Lines were long but it moved quickly. First time I ever used an electronic ballet. I'm all for technology but I prefer the old-fashion way...

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  109. CA is boring by k6mfw · · Score: 1

    Unlike FL where it's action and adventure (news is hopping with stories of long lines, impatient people). Unlike here in California it's like stopping at AM/PM to get gas and coffee. I stopped at polling place this morning to cast my ballot (voted for Jill Stein to increase third party attention since ***all*** CA delegates already allocated to Obama). I must say polling place had lots of people to help and they set up signs from main road to actual poll station to help voters find it.

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    1. Re:CA is boring by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      forgot to add, I waited a few minutes behind two people, overall it was quick. Person in front had to complete form for provisional ballot. A fair number of cars but found parking in front of poll station. I had my voter info booklet with me (name and address label), showed it to clerk to make it easy for her to see my name in writing then look it up in register which I signed my name and wrote address. Ballot was paper which you draw a thin line using a black or blue pin. Fast and easy, no need to have electricity for a voting machine. No chads! Dang, ain't like them other states with all kinds of weird stuff for people to bitch about.

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    2. Re:CA is boring by homer_ca · · Score: 1

      Same here. Biked to polling place at lunchtime (80 deg!). Two people in line. Super fast and easy. No competitive races for offices. Ballot props are where the action is.

  110. NJ - early morning, all smooth by NoahsMyBro · · Score: 1

    I'm in what I'd call an upper-middle-class suburb in Northern NJ.

    Our area suffered multi-day power outages and some downed trees from Sandy, but minimal rain, no flooding, and other than gas lines things are getting back to normal.

    I arrived at my polling place around 8:45am or so. There were 2 voting machines available for my precinct. One other designated for voters from a different precinct, but located in the same room.

    Both machines were occupied when I arrived, and there was 1 other voter in front of me in line.

    I waited about 5 minutes, during which time one other person lined up behind me. I voted, I left.

    Regarding the machines - they were AVC Advantage machines - electronic, but I don't think they are digital/computerized/black-box systems (I hope not, at any rate). Found a .pdf describing them here: http://www.verifiedvoting.org/wp-content/uploads/downloads/AVCAdvantage.pdf

  111. MA - Incredibly smooth. by aseth · · Score: 1

    As usual. Walk up, tell them my name and address. It gets crossed off and a paper ballot is handed to me. I fill in some dots with a marker, then stick it into a machine that reads it and I get a shiny "I voted today" sticker as they mark me off in a second set of books.

    It took at most five minutes. I have no idea how other states can mess such a simple process up so badly.

    1. Re:MA - Incredibly smooth. by geekoid · · Score: 1

      It's easy to mess it up when you don't want it to work in certain areas anyways.

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    2. Re:MA - Incredibly smooth. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      About the same here, only I didn't get a sticker. I didn't think about it, so they may have had some if I looked.

  112. WA - Voted, maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mailed in my ballot weeks ago. Who knows if it'll be counted, I certainly never will. Did get a call from some robo-caller scam claiming I needed to throw away my ballot and wait for a replacement. Gotta wonder how many people are waiting for their replacement ballot that'll never come.

    Oh, and my SO got a card from Moveon.org trying to use guilt to get her to vote ("You vote less often than your neighbors!"). It had the opposite effect.

  113. PA - longest lines I've ever seen by chromaexcursion · · Score: 1

    I got to the poles when they opened at 7 AM, and had to wait in line 25 minutes. I drive past 2 other polling places on the way to work. The parking lots were full and cars were parked in the fields near the buildings.

    1. Re:PA - longest lines I've ever seen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here in Central PA, but the lots were _almost_ full.

  114. Re:Funny business across the country by Microlith · · Score: 1

    Pretty selective in your links. Next time make sure your bias isn't so obvious.

  115. MI -- fine, but slow. Lengthy ballots in Michigan by clintp · · Score: 1

    Long, complicated ballot in Michigan this year with lots of asinine state constitutional amendments. This made for about a 45 minute wait in line to even get a ballot. I figured out my choices the weekend before and put the options on my phone to read in the booth; even then, filling the real ballot out correctly still took about 5 minutes.

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  116. NH - Paper ballot - busy but efficient - no lines by Mysticeti · · Score: 1

    Voted this morning... Lots of people, parking lot nearly full, many booths taken, but no hassles (presented my ID) or lines.

  117. UK - Posted my ballot weeks ago. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was blissful and relaxing. Filling it out while sat on toilet probably helped as well. Sorry to hear about your mediaeval voting-on-Tuesday rituals. One of the few benefits of being an ex-pat or Oregonian. PS. Hello to Jason Isaacs.

  118. AZ - lucky you by Titoxd · · Score: 1

    I went to the polls at about the same time, and had to spend one hour waiting in line...

  119. AZ - Voted two weeks ago by mail. by johnnybogosity · · Score: 1

    As for races that I expect will be close and that i'm going to be watching closely this evening: The Ohio Presidential race. No Republican has ever won the White House without winning the Buckeye State. The Indiana Senate race between Democrat Joe Donnelly and extremist Tea Party Republican Richard Mourdock. Why? Mourdock beat longtime moderate GOP Senator Dick Lugar in the primary. We have important negotiations coming up on Capitol Hill right after the election. If Obama wins, he'll need some Republicans to vote for a compromise on the fiscal cliff issues. There are a handful who just maybe, under the right circumstances, might do so. But if Mourdock wins -- no way. No Republican will compromise, because they will all fear being Mourdocked. Or Lugared, whichever you prefer to call it. And last but not least -- Marriage equality on the ballot if four states -- Minnesota, Maine, Washington and Maryland. How these races play out will be the canary in the coal mine for whether-or-not we're going to have a Congress that becomes more moderate or more divisive.

    1. Re:AZ - Voted two weeks ago by mail. by ender8282 · · Score: 1
    2. Re:AZ - Voted two weeks ago by mail. by johnnybogosity · · Score: 1

      I'll repeat: No Republican has ever won the White House without winning the Buckeye State. And congrats to Indiana Senate candidate Democrat Joe Donnelly. I pray that you will be the key to a more moderate Congress. And holy shit -- marriage equality is winning in Maine, Maryland and Washington (3 out of 4 ain't bad). I'm in tears... the U.S. constitutional protections guaranteed by the 14th amendment of equal protection for all Americans are now closer to reality, and especially for LGBT Americans -- and the beacon of liberty shines bright. As bright as I can ever remember it shining. Amen

  120. Voted a week ago by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    using Oregon's mail in ballots.
    Every state should do it this way.

    Research everyone I could. Even looked through church rooster to see if any people running for board comes up from a church known for shoving their stupid into the government

    As someone who has studied corporate history, and economic history, the presidential vote as easy. Obama.

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    1. Re:Voted a week ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When did the church get into the poultry business? And was it translucent, one do you have x-ray vision?

    2. Re:Voted a week ago by HungWeiLo · · Score: 1

      Having lived in my voting age primarily in OR and WA, it's like going to the zoo and viewing exotic animals every time I see people lining up at the polls on TV.

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    3. Re:Voted a week ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "As someone who has studied corporate history"

      Of course the fascist vote would be for Obama..

    4. Re:Voted a week ago by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Oregon has an initiative on the ballot to legalize recreational Cannabis. I hope you voted to be on the right side of history, and end the atrocity that is the war on drug users.

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    5. Re:Voted a week ago by siphonophore · · Score: 1

      you forgot to add the snark tag

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    6. Re:Voted a week ago by riverat1 · · Score: 1

      Well, in Oregon, since the post mark doesn't count you get lineups of cars on election night at the drop off points. I've seen lines over 1/4 mile long to do that before.

      BTW, are you related to the guy who had a restaurant in Portland called Hung Far Lo?

    7. Re:Voted a week ago by HungWeiLo · · Score: 1

      I actually know the family in person, but I've never step food in that grease pit (both the old one and the new one).

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    8. Re:Voted a week ago by riverat1 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I only went there once.

  121. MD - No Problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Went at lunch, no line, no ID requirement, all went smoothly. And tasty treats at the bake sale!

    1. Re:MD - No Problems by scorp1us · · Score: 1

      There is a first-time voter ID requirement. But I'm guessing you didn't vote for the first time today.

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  122. Re:KS Early voted early by DickBreath · · Score: 1

    KS same here. Voted early, but not two weeks ago. Avoid the rush. Avoid the lines. My county uses paper ballots with either pencils or ink to fill in the bubbles like in grade school. Electronically counted. I had to give driver's license number and other info on application for early voting, but not actually show license.

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  123. VA voted first thing by jfb2252 · · Score: 1

    Given the change to standard time it was easy to be at the polling place half an hour before it opened. I was seventh in line. When the poll opened there were about fifty in line. I had checked that everything was OK with my March 2012 registration change in early September so I didn't have any trouble, unlike the earlier commenters. Why the legislature thinks reciting a name and address out loud is a fraud deterrent I'll never know.

  124. IL - Voted when polls opened by Limburgher · · Score: 1

    My wife and I were less than 10th in line, voted paper ballot, no issues. Polling place got moved for the 2nd time in the past 5 years, a bit of confusion for some people there.

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  125. CA - Electronic voting in Orange County by Daetrin · · Score: 1

    Got to the polling place about 7:30. There was a line of about 1-2 dozen people in front of me. They had about 10 electronic voting booths set up, but three of them were having issues so had been closed.

    The line moved fairly slow, took maybe 20ish minutes to get my turn? I'm not sure if the people ahead of me were actually having trouble figuring out how to work the machines or if they just hadn't thought much about the election and were reading through all the propositions and making their final decisions right then.

    The voting machines themselves are pretty nice. No touch-screen, there's a dial that moves a cursor between options, and a button to press to select the option that's currently selected (plus a few more buttons for things like going forward and backwards a page, etc.) When you're done selecting everything it has a summary page showing your choices and asks you to confirm, then it prints a paper ballot behind a sheet of glass and asks you to confirm each page of that paper ballot, while showing it alongside the electronic one.

    All in all it seemed a simple, efficient, and reasonably secure method for handling things. I of course had already researched the issues i cared about, and was not daunted by fancy spinney wheels and push button technology, and was in and out of the booth in a couple minutes.

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  126. Vermin Supreme by udachny · · Score: 1

    So did anybody cast a vote for Vermin Supreme? After all, if he wins you'll be guaranteed to have good teeth and a pony and you'll be safe in case zombies attack.

  127. Chicago Ward by RoccamOccam · · Score: 1
  128. FL - Just outside of Orlando, Short line! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (I'm actually just outside of Orlando, off of I-4.)

    My wife was driving to a meeting this morning and called as she passed the voting location to let me know that it was jammed. When she came back we went together at about 12:30 and there was no wait at all. I just walked in, they verified our IDs, and we voted.

    I was undecided on my pick for president until driving to the voting location. We used paper fill-in-the-bubble ballots like are used for standardized tests, which were fed into a machine. Nothing was amiss as far as I could tell. Just far too many state constitutional amendments to read.

  129. SW MO - No Worries by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

    Showed up at 7:50, back on my way to work by 8:05. We use the opti-scan machines here (kind of like a Scantron), which I like as they're difficult to tamper with.

    Was a bit confused when the lady at the polling station took my ID then asked me to recite my name and address... never had that happen before. I assume had my address not matched (I don't see the point in spending $20 on a new ID every time I move), I'd have caught some shit like I did last time*.



    2008 election, the crotchety old bitch at the polling station tried to prevent me from voting because I was wearing this t-shirt. Fortunately, I had my shit together and know my rights.

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  130. Re:Funny business across the country by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Next time, post your own.

  131. VA - Similar problem with disenfranchisement. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I requested forms for registration numerous times. They never arrived. Eventually got some printed and submitted months ago. Never took effect. Voted where I was previously registered (still had my old license).

  132. CA - One minor thing by spitzak · · Score: 1

    In West Los Angeles. Three districts voting in same building, for some reason my line was short but the others long. They use the ink-dot paper ballot. I voted very quickly because I already marked the booklet with my votes and they line up and are easy to copy to the real ballot. If you are paranoid, check the number of one of the black dots after you remove the ballot from the machine to see if it is one of the numbers you voted for, to make sure the ballot was mounted in the machine correctly. It is then inserted into a reader that checks for correct marks (no over votes) and into the box. I have been told this machine is not doing the counting, just checking, and the ballots are machine-scanned for counting later.

    Only interesting thing was that a woman in front of me was ejected for wearing an Obama t-shirt. However I think she turned it inside-out and was back in right behind me and I'm pretty certain allowed to vote.

  133. UT - quick, paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    no waiting. paper only for me due to Diebold machines. voting even though mine probably does not count under the Electoral College system. we need popular election so EVERY vote counts!

  134. GA - Voted! by Laebshade · · Score: 1

    I spent more time (7 minutes) driving than voting, and I was in and out in less than 5 minutes. There was no one waiting to use the voting machines (Diebold), and only one voter was there (lunch time).

  135. NC - No hassle here either by StatureOfLiberty · · Score: 1

    Charlotte, NC. My polling place usually runs like clockwork. Today was no exception. Poll workers are great. Even had chairs in the hallway leading to the voting machines so people could sit while they waited for the poll to open.

    I arrived 25 minutes before the poll opened. I was about the 40th person in line. The poll opened exactly on time. In 15 minutes I was out.

    The line had backed up while I was voting. Looked to be about an hour wait.

    We have LCD touch screens and a human readable printed paper entry is logged every time you touch a button. The system seems to work pretty well.

    I have been keeping up with the campaigns. I research every person I vote for. But, I always find myself holding my nose when I pull the trigger. However, a good friend of mine was running for a judge seat. That one was an easy choice.

  136. KS - Almost didn't bother. by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    I live in a decent-sized rather left-leaning city in a conservative state. Voting for me requires getting up "early" since I normally get up and go straight to work out of town, and don't get off until after polls close.

    I almost decided to just sleep another 15 minutes and forget about voting. With the electoral college system my vote literally doesn't count for the Presidency. No matter how me or anyone else in my home tome votes our electoral college votes will be going to Romney. Since I no longer watch TV or read the newspaper I'm not current on any of the minor/local office candidates beyond their stupid cards and flyers that end up in my mailbox (which I don't read really). The actual people in office don't seem to have any real effect on my own life. They will all do an equally bad job, just in different ways.

    I guess I don't see any point in playing along with this game anymore. The leadership has risen to a level of nobility politics where they can have their intrigues and it makes no difference to me, except when it comes to starting wars and setting taxes.

    1. Re:KS - Almost didn't bother. by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      No matter how me or anyone else in my home tome votes...

      Bah. That should be "home town".
      Was to the right of the correct keys and transposed the letters at the same time. -__-'

  137. VA - Small Town by chill · · Score: 1

    Voted first thing this morning as well. Went fine. Bigger turnout than I was expecting at that time.

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  138. Re:Funny business across the country by geekoid · · Score: 1

    Yeah, those sound legit~

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  139. An Uninformed Opinion is Worse Than No Opinion. by nukeade · · Score: 1

    WA - Voted by mail a week ago. Spent two hours thoughtfully reading over the platform and considering the credentials of every candidate from Federal down to Local before making the choices that I could objectively justify.

  140. NV - Glad it's OVER! by yurtinus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My god, commercial breaks were so overwhelmingly political and retardedly negative. During Jeapordy the other day, every commercial except one was an actress supporting Romney (gee, wonder who they're pandering to...). The one exception was for the senate race - a race I deliberately avoided both main candidates specifically because they are both putting out so many negative campaign ads. Poor characters all around.

    God I hate elections. The one bright side is the place I voted early at had no line and friendly staff!

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    1. Re:NV - Glad it's OVER! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't people have a DVR? I can't remember the last time I watched a commercial.

    2. Re:NV - Glad it's OVER! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "During Jeapordy the other day..."

      "...gee, wonder who they're pandering to..."

      Um, you? :-)

    3. Re:NV - Glad it's OVER! by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Get a TiVo, you won't see any of these commercials!

    4. Re:NV - Glad it's OVER! by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      I've been watching CNN a lot and the "I used to live in a Socialist country" ads by Some Rich Businessman (I didn't care enough to memorize his name) were so annoying I'd mute the TV and then forget to unmute it for 3 or 4 commercials afterwards. (The basic gist of Rich Businessman's message: "Don't tax the rich or we all descend into madness, madness I say! Trust me because I'm a Rich Guy.")

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    5. Re:NV - Glad it's OVER! by yurtinus · · Score: 1

      Nah, my girlfriend... I only watch it for the commercials which sucked this year!

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    6. Re:NV - Glad it's OVER! by yurtinus · · Score: 1

      I would, if I watched enough TV to justify it. Plus, it's more fun to complain about commercials than fast forward through them...

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  141. MI - Went at 7:30, got out at around 9. by Banichi · · Score: 1

    Three precincts voting in a small 1 basketball court sized gym. Three lines, one precinct each.
    The "greeter" who let the people in line outside know what was what and how the lines inside worked was amazing. Answered everyone's questions and did a fantastic job, really knew his stuff.
    Lines for my precinct were crazy long, they stopped letting people in periodically, since there wasn't anywhere for the line to lengthen to.
    An hour or so in line.
    Except for one incident (mine of course) with the Ballot distributor table, everything was very professional.
    They mis-numbered the ballot before mine as my number, so there was a 10 minute holdup while that got sorted out.
    Other than that, everything went swimmingly.

    Though the two white-collar-shirt layabouts in the back (one male, one female), not doing anything but chatting and sipping coffee for the entire time I was there was a bit off-putting. They could have been a big help straightening out lines and actually doing something other than watching. Maybe they were observers? I'd like to know what poll's they were at, see if mine was one of them.

    1. Re:MI - Went at 7:30, got out at around 9. by clintp · · Score: 1

      Likely they were observers. My wife has worked the elections for the Clerk's office and as a poll observer (not at the same election). Really, there's not much they can do but sit and watch and stay out of the way.

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  142. NC - Voted early by FriendlyStatistician · · Score: 1

    Just moved to NC this year, and one of the things I love is how easy they make it to vote early, no excuse needed--including registering at the time you vote. It took me all of ten minutes to register and vote.

    Also, we use a very clean optical-scan ballot, so less confusion, no touch-screen calibration issues, and a paper trail. I was really very pleased.

  143. Re:CO-Voted by mail by Eleint · · Score: 1

    Same here, voted about a week and a half ago. Pros: don't have to stand in long lines, Cons: Don't get a little sticker saying I voted. I was also debating telling my boss that I got a notice that my mail in ballot got lost or something and taking the two hours given by CO state law to go "vote" (aka sitting at home for a few hours).

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  144. MD - voted early by Convector · · Score: 2

    I voted on 28 Oct before Sandy came through. It was cold and blustery and took over three hours. I think this is the first Presidential election MD has had early voting for, and massively underestimated the turnout. The line wrapped around the parking lot. Folks were generally very nice about waving incomers to available parking spaces and holding places in line for people to run in to use the facilities, pop over to the 7-11 to get coffee, or retrieve additional outerwear from their vehicles.

    I was at one of five early voting stations in Anne Arundel County, and they had a total of ten voting machines available for it. Judging by the rate at which people left (about one per minute), I estimate that it took an average of ten minutes to cast a ballot. There were a lot of ballot questions and such on there, but I got the impression that many voters hadn't bothered to read them before showing up. Why stand in line to vote if you haven't made up your mind yet? Poll workers were constantly walking down the line offering sample ballots for people to read and never got any takers.

    1. Re:MD - voted early by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I voted in Baltimore City today, and in addition to the ballot questions (and, let's face it, everyone has seen the debate on 6 and 7 and maybe 4, but not the others), there were a ton of bond issues that I didn't know about until I got there, which took some extra time.

  145. VA - 2 Hour long line.... by Vesuvias · · Score: 1

    Paper of course. By the end I just wanted to know which candidate would allow me vote in a reasonable amount of time for the next election. Worst voting experience I have ever had.

  146. WA - All mail-in vote by cps42 · · Score: 2

    Voted last week by mail. Now want to create an app that disables all television, radio, political advertising and replaces it with soothing music and pictures of puppies and kittens as soon as King County has acknowledged receiving my vote.

    1. Re:WA - All mail-in vote by jd.schmidt · · Score: 1

      VBM FTW! Seriously, it is the best and you should demand it in your state. Especially if you have to wait 45+ min. Gives me a chance to sit in front of my computer and look up each and every item in detail as I am voting, and afterwards I am done! Properly done it can be every bit as reliable as in person systems, though election day still *should* be a holiday.

    2. Re:WA - All mail-in vote by vandamme · · Score: 1

      Sorry, the political ads will now be replaced by Christmas gift ads.

  147. VA - medium coastal city by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

    Tried at 11AM. Loooong line.
    Going back at 4 to stay for the duration.

    1. Re:VA - medium coastal city by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      Ahhh..much better. 10 minutes in line. Fill in the dots for the Scantron.

  148. AZ - Phx metro (Gilbert) - 25-30 minute wait by bjdevil66 · · Score: 1

    From (south) Gilbert, AZ. Give yourself a little time.

    It was surprisingly heavy around 830AM local time. There were 2 lines out the door; 25-30 mins to get ballot in hand. Conservative district; Mostly GOP candidates at the state level on the ballot. Only president, US senate (Flake v. Cordona) and a couple of propositions (sales tax, "top two" general election vs. 2 party system) really mattered.

    (This doesn't apply across the Phx metro area. A coworker said that their voting place in north Phoenix (generally a more moderate area) had only a minute or so of a wait time (no long lines).

  149. WA yes on 502, mailed it in by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

    Forgot to put it in the security sleeve, being an odd ball most likely tossed as a non-vote.

  150. Easy Peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Had no issue voting. Voted at 10:00 AM CDT with no wait. Voted on scanable paper ballot.

  151. OH - Canton - 20 mins by jupiterssj4 · · Score: 2

    Waited 20 mins in line at 7:20AM. Name was on roll with correct address, I had correct address on new drivers license. Comment next to my name on roll said "VNC returned - Vote provisional" so I had to cast a paper provisional ballot. I filled out voter registration change of address when I moved in early September, waited and waited for local board of elections to respond, they finally did near the beginning of October. I signed the postcard and returned it the next day so I thought I would be in there. Apparently not. Provisional ballot only had president, state senators, local government positions and two state issues. No local issues listed as I guess they can't have you voting for local issues if you they can't prove where you live. Overall bad experience, never had to cast a provisional ballot before in any election. They did have four electronic UI machines that verify by printing onto paper but I couldn't use them.

  152. Re:FU - This isn't MF Twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've noticed by your recent comments that you're an unpleasant malcontent. Consider a new hobby or just cheer up. Being so negative all the time is bad for your health.

  153. TX - Houston by Antipater · · Score: 5, Funny

    Voting went fine, but they ran out of "I voted!" stickers! How could this happen?? How else can I vent my smug satisfaction at having exercised my same-freedom-everyone-else-also-has?

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    1. Re:TX - Houston by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      TX - Houston: Voted between morning and lunch time. I was the only one placing my vote. BTW, I do not like the jog wheel interface.

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    2. Re:TX - Houston by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I keep thinking it's a touch screen every time, then I realize I have to use that bloody wheel...

    3. Re:TX - Houston by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At my place too! I could only get the "I voted!" sticker the first two times! None for third, fourth, and fifth!

    4. Re:TX - Houston by Ghostworks · · Score: 2

      Voting went fine, but they ran out of "I voted!" stickers! How could this happen?? How else can I vent my smug satisfaction at having exercised my same-freedom-everyone-else-also-has?

      Maybe next time you'll vote early and get one of the plentiful "I Voted Early" stickers (with 200% more smugness).

      TX - Austin

    5. Re:TX - Houston by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2

      It's important to keep this in perspective. On my way to voting I heard something on the radio that sums it up best:

      Everybody have fun tonight, everybody Wang Chung tonight.

    6. Re:TX - Houston by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't get an "I voted!" sticker either. So I just walked around with my dick hanging out for a while. After about 10 minutes, I'd had enough attention, so I put it away and went on with my day.

    7. Re:TX - Houston by akpoff · · Score: 1

      I voted in Houston as well. I hate the jog wheel as well but mostly because it's attached to an all electronic system. There's no paper ballot. The screen *showed* my selections but I have no idea what it sent to the server.

      What's wrong with the paper ballot and electronic tabulator?

    8. Re:TX - Houston by pspahn · · Score: 1

      I know they seem lame and those of us who have been voting awhile consider them "smug", I remember when I voted on my 18th birthday and when I came back to school after lunch and had the sticker, it was kind of a cool thing.

      If they exist so that young people can feel a little cooler about voting, I'm all for it.

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  154. MN- good turnout early by cunamara · · Score: 1

    My wife went to vote at 7:30 and had a 45 minute wait. I went at 8:45 and had a 15 minute wait. Minnesota typically has high voter turnout (and paper ballots that can be recounted) and the pattern I saw today seemed about on par with the past 5 presidential elections. Vote as if your country depends on it... because it does.

  155. In other words the system worked by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

    You have to register 22 days before the election SO I was basically shit outta luck. Good thing I was able to absentee ballot for Minnesota (having recently moved).

    In other words you were prevented from voting twice by a reasonable waiting period. Did you ever think WHY there is a waiting period?

    Thank you Virginia.

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    1. Re:In other words the system worked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You have to register 22 days before the election SO I was basically shit outta luck. Good thing I was able to absentee ballot for Minnesota (having recently moved).

      In other words you were prevented from voting twice by a reasonable waiting period. Did you ever think WHY there is a waiting period?

      Thank you Virginia.

      Why don't you explain why some states have a 22 day waiting period while other states can magically allow voting day of without prior registration? Are some states just more competent than others? Or have some states decided that people who don't move around have a narrower world view and are more likely to vote Republican and that's why they want the "reasonable waiting period" to be as long as possible? What year is this? If you have a valid state license (though this should not be a requirement) why can't you register on the same day you vote? They can swipe my ID at a bar to see if I'm old enough to drink but they can't at a voting booth? What the hell man?

  156. Re:CO-Voted by mail by ackthpt · · Score: 1

    Same here, voted about a week and a half ago. Pros: don't have to stand in long lines, Cons: Don't get a little sticker saying I voted. I was also debating telling my boss that I got a notice that my mail in ballot got lost or something and taking the two hours given by CO state law to go "vote" (aka sitting at home for a few hours).

    Hey, how you voted isn't your boss's business, you could have slept in or gone to get that Halo game thingy, your time to reflect upon how you voted perhaps.

    No sticker for me, either. I think they should put one in the envelope. Have not stood in line to vote in about 6 years after having a near altercation with a volunteer at a polling place - she left her station and the sign indicated I just run the sheet through the scanner (apparently wasn't for ME to do but for HER as she was all official and stuff) so I left her with the ballot she pulled from my hands, saying "Please yourself!" and registered for mail-in. Best way to do these and apparently we're growing in numbers. :)

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  157. IL - Voted early. by snooz_crash · · Score: 1

    No lines. Voted on Scantron. Election judge handed me a judges sheet which was already voided. Got another sheet and had no problems.

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  158. ME - no lines, very fast, no issues by Fookin · · Score: 1

    Just got back from voting about 10 minutes ago. We still use paper ballots in the Portland, ME area and things went very smoothly. A couple of little old ladies looking up names, handing out ballots and keeping an eye on people submitting ballots into the scanner.

  159. WA - by mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Votes a few days ago, well I dropped my ballot in its dual envelopes into the mailbox then.

    I had 32 issues to vote on, so I don't understand how people could take the time to vote in a booth.

  160. VA - 1 hour wait @11am, people polite, all good. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    The weather was here, wish you were beautiful.

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  161. CO - no lines, but steady stream of people by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I dropped off a paper ballot this morning at my local polling place, pretty much no lines but a very constant stream of people coming to drop off ballots

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  162. Poe's law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, conservatives have been doing dirty stuff like this quite a bit, so I can't really tell if you're joking or not.

  163. AZ, I voted for Jeff Flake by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 1

    And let the rest of the ballot empty. For those who don't know, Jeff Flake vehemently opposed SOPA, and is the biggest opposition to earmarks.

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  164. TX - won't vote, don't believe in democracy. by jdavidb · · Score: 1

    I'm an anarcho-capitalist, and I don't consent to this system. I've heard most of the arguments for it, and I don't agree. You haven't persuaded me, and I don't consent. It's fine with me if the rest of you live under whatever system you like, but I don't think you should be allowed to get your way at the expense of the rest of us.

    Anyway, when the other guys wins, don't complain to me for the next four years, all right? You agreed to live under this crazy majority rule system. I did not.

    1. Re:TX - won't vote, don't believe in democracy. by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      It's fine with me if the rest of you live under whatever system you like, but I don't think you should be allowed to get your way at the expense of the rest of us.

      Then why don't you get off our land? I mean, the owners of the land you are currently on decided to join the United States. Property was deed out, but some rights were retained.

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    2. Re:TX - won't vote, don't believe in democracy. by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      Didn't agree to it? Leave.

      or lobby to change it.

      It's up to you. Don't complain when your point of view isn't respected.

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    3. Re:TX - won't vote, don't believe in democracy. by Beyond_GoodandEvil · · Score: 1

      I'm an anarcho-capitalist, and I don't consent to this system.
      You misspelled whiny douche. As mentioned previously, you can leave any time you want.

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    4. Re:TX - won't vote, don't believe in democracy. by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      I'm an anarcho-capitalist, and I don't consent to this system. I've heard most of the arguments for it, and I don't agree. You haven't persuaded me, and I don't consent. It's fine with me if the rest of you live under whatever system you like, but I don't think you should be allowed to get your way at the expense of the rest of us.

      Anyway, when the other guys wins, don't complain to me for the next four years, all right? You agreed to live under this crazy majority rule system. I did not.

      You may dissent with the current system, but you have also agreed to live under it, unless you do not have the means to leave the country or stage an armed revolution.

      I get this from my kids all the time... they seem to think that saying they don't want to eat their broccoli means they can have chocolate cake for dinner. That's not how life works -- if they want chocolate cake, they're going to have to go live elsewhere or somehow convince me to agree with them. Stomping their feet and shouting that "it's not fair" doesn't do a thing to change our house from a Broccoli house to a Chocolate Cake house.

      If you think that not agreeing with the way things are currently run somehow exempts you from participation, you're just deluding yourself. Refusing to vote is just as much a part of the system as casting a ballot. If you don't like it that way, move to Australia -- there, what you're doing would be illegal. If you disagree with elections altogether, go invade Sealand or take over some small African country.

      Just ask the ostriches... sticking your head in the sand won't protect you from anything; it just lowers your stress until it's too late to act.

    5. Re:TX - won't vote, don't believe in democracy. by jdavidb · · Score: 1

      It is my land. I paid for it and bought it from its owner. The government does not own our land any more than it owns our bodies. It doesn't own any of our property. But it does lay claim to all of the above, and that is stealing.

      What would be right would be for your government to get off of my land. I'll make you a deal: you guys stay off my land, and I'll stay out of your lives, won't make you pay for any wars I believe in, won't make you support my church financially, won't stop you from using drugs if you choose, will stay out of your womb (if applicable), etc.

    6. Re:TX - won't vote, don't believe in democracy. by jdavidb · · Score: 1

      I am lobbying to change it. I am appealing to you, and every other member of the public, to stop forcing your will on me. In exchange, I will not force my will on you. I won't force you to support wars you do not believe in, won't force you to abstain from drugs unless you believe in abstaining from them, won't force religion or any other belief on you, won't prohibit you from marrying anyone you choose of any gender (so long as they consent), etc.

      Leave? Why should I leave? This spot is mine. Not yours. That's my whole point.

    7. Re:TX - won't vote, don't believe in democracy. by jdavidb · · Score: 1

      I don't agree that my presence within a boundary drawn by other people constitutes consent. I'm in a spot that your government claims, but the claim is not legitimate and does not rest on any legitimate principle that makes it "theirs" and not "mine." I don't consent. I agree with you as far as raising children, but your analogy fails because I am not in your house. I am in my house. You and I did not partner together to buy two houses and form an association where we each have some say in what goes on in each other's houses.

      Refusing to vote is just as much a part of the system as casting a ballot

      I'm glad to hear that. Then my decision ought to be praised, as well as my efforts to persuade others to also withdraw their consent.

      it just lowers your stress

      I wish. If you think being blue in a red state, or red in a blue state is hard, try being the guy who doesn't raise his hand at the office when the VP says "So, who voted today?"

      until it's too late to act.

      It essentially already is. But there's some faint hope if we can get a critical mass of people to believe in everybody having the freedom to withdraw consent, and nobody having the right to force others to say pledges, fund wars they don't believe in, adhere to religious principles they don't believe in, etc.

    8. Re:TX - won't vote, don't believe in democracy. by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      It is my land. I paid for it and bought it from its owner.

      Read your deed. And the state laws that automatically applied limitations to your land. Likely you don't have mineral rights, certainly your 49rights terminate at some depth and some height. There are a priori governmental rights to repurchase your land in the case of eminent domain.

      The government does not own our land any more than it owns our bodies. It doesn't own any of our property

      That hardly seems like a tenable statement. While I would contend that the government certainly can limit your rights in both cases, your property was acquired from someone, who.... chain of ownership later... acquired it from the government who acquired it via right of conquest from some other group.

      Hence, retained rights.

      I'll make you a deal: you guys stay off my land, and I'll stay out of your lives

      If it was 100% your land, sure. But, again, retained rights. And one of the rights you did not acquire with your land was the right to secede. Now, if you wanna go form a new government somewhere else, and bring some M-16s and create your own country, I wish you luck. (Note, if you try to do so on the land you currently inhabit, you're trying to appropriate by force property rights currently belonging to my government, and I will care.)

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    9. Re:TX - won't vote, don't believe in democracy. by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      I want fire departments, I want infrastructure and I think we're better off together than we are alone.

      Enough of us agree that this is what the law is.

      If you don't like the laws we pass, go elsewhere. We are collectivist. It is not a dirty word. Work with other people. It's refreshing. Anarcho capitalism is the running definition of the Dunning Kruger effect.

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    10. Re:TX - won't vote, don't believe in democracy. by jdavidb · · Score: 1

      I want fire departments, I want infrastructure

      Great, but I think there's another way to get those, and I don't consent to you building them at my expense.

      I think we're better off together than we are alone.

      To me there's nothing different between that and a religious belief. You think you know what's best for me, and you believe you are justified in forcing it on me. I think that's every bit as immoral as making me attend or support a government-linked church.

      If you don't like the laws we pass, go elsewhere

      No, please abandon your illegitimate claim over my life, body, and property. Just because you think you know what's right for me doesn't give you the right to make me cooperate.

    11. Re:TX - won't vote, don't believe in democracy. by jdavidb · · Score: 1

      chain of ownership later... acquired it from the government who acquired it via right of conquest from some other group.

      Conquest is immoral and doesn't provide any legitimate claim. I hope you stand with me in opposing it.

      one of the rights you did not acquire with your land was the right to secede

      That's an inalienable right, actually.

      you're trying to appropriate by force property rights currently belonging to my government, and I will care

      You are a tyrant.

    12. Re:TX - won't vote, don't believe in democracy. by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Conquest is immoral and doesn't provide any legitimate claim. I hope you stand with me in opposing it.

      Umm... okay then, you have no legitimate claim to your land. Please return it to the Mexican family we stole it from. Seriously, how else do you explain the "initial acquisition" of Locke's philosophy.

      That's an inalienable right

      Abandoning your citizenship? Sure. But certainly I can sell you some but not all rights to land? I mean, utility right-of-ways, or whatnot. How is that different from saying, this land does not have the right to secede.

      You are a tyrant.

      Not really. If you try to steal, I'll oppose it. Or would you be a tyrant if I came into your house, I started sleeping in your living room and you wanted to kick me out.

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    13. Re:TX - won't vote, don't believe in democracy. by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      I don't agree that my presence within a boundary drawn by other people constitutes consent. I'm in a spot that your government claims, but the claim is not legitimate and does not rest on any legitimate principle that makes it "theirs" and not "mine." I don't consent. I agree with you as far as raising children, but your analogy fails because I am not in your house. I am in my house. You and I did not partner together to buy two houses and form an association where we each have some say in what goes on in each other's houses.

      I understand that you don't agree, but the people with the biggest guns and largest mob do agree -- which means you really don't have a choice unless you can convince enough other powerful people to side with you -- this is pretty much Marxist ideology in a nutshell.

      As far as "your government" goes -- there's no way I'd submit myself to that government, which is why I don't. I try to avoid setting foot on soil claimed by the US as much as possible. You, however, are making use of public services provided by that collective federal/state/municipal government, are under the protection of that government (military/police/fire/ambulance), and are a consumer of goods subsidized by that government. It doesn't really matter that you don't want to be -- unless you outright reject it all and call your plot of land a sovereign nation and stand up to the other government that lays claim to the land, you're part of the current situation. You say you're in your house, but then you are fine with someone else paying your utility bill, doing maintenance, and generally cleaning up your messes -- and you're OK dealing with everyone else living in that same house who sees things differently than you. This house is not your plot of land, it's your community.

      Refusing to vote is just as much a part of the system as casting a ballot

      I'm glad to hear that. Then my decision ought to be praised, as well as my efforts to persuade others to also withdraw their consent.

      None of this is going to be praised by people who disagree with you. If you refuse to play the game, those invested in it aren't going to take their ball and go home, they're going to keep on playing and leave you out of it -- and try to pressure you to re-join the game as they "know" they're right.

      Maybe another kid analogy: You want to play hopscotch on the hopscotch pad at school, so you get there early and start playing. Then, a group of bigger guys decide they want to play some street hockey, so they set up some nets on either side of your hopscotch pad, and start playing, ignoring your protests that you were there first.

      Are you right? sure -- but it's not going to make them all stop playing hockey.

      Remember: if everyone agreed with your mindset, North America would still be populated by aboriginal peoples with only a light population of those from other parts of the world. Governments are bullies, and get their own way because they can. They also bring stability and a measure of wealth that smaller groups of individuals could not achieve on their own.

      it just lowers your stress

      I wish. If you think being blue in a red state, or red in a blue state is hard, try being the guy who doesn't raise his hand at the office when the VP says "So, who voted today?"

      Bingo -- you're working in a government-supported office. Your VP, and presumably your co-workers all subscribe to said government, although they disagree with how it should be run. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

      until it's too late to act.

      It essentially already is. But there's some faint hope if we can get a critical mass of people to believe in everybody having the freedom to withdraw consent, and nobody having the right to force others to say pledges, fund wars they don't believe in, adhere to rel

  165. AZ - Provisional Ballot by MarioMax · · Score: 1

    Being stupid, I misplaced my mail-in ballot, so I couldn't mail it in. When I arrived at the polling place, I was carded (per state law) without issue, and told to get a provisional ballot. After the election official did some minor paperwork, I was handed my provisional ballot.

    I recorded my votes, and placed it in the provisional envelope, dropped it off in the provisional box, and left.

    I got home, found my mail-in ballot, and subsequently marked it such that it cannot be used as a ballot (doing so is a felony, after all).

    All said, I had a harder time actually getting to the polling place than actually voting, as the location was an odd location just off the Loop 101.

    1. Re:AZ - Provisional Ballot by MarioMax · · Score: 1

      I got home, found my mail-in ballot, and subsequently marked it such that it cannot be used as a ballot (doing so is a felony, after all).

      Typo:
      Marked it as such that it cannot be used again as a ballot, as voting twice is a felony.

    2. Re:AZ - Provisional Ballot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had to get a provisional ballot, too, but that's because I turned eighteen today and all of my prior registration applications were denied. I wish that the online registration and Secretary of State websites would have said something...

  166. UT - No problems by dwillden · · Score: 1

    A bit slow at first, until the workers streamlined their check-in process then the line zipped along. Electronic voting machines but they create a paper record that you review before casting the finalized ballot. Went at 10:30 was done by 11:30. I did have to choose which form of photo ID I wanted to use, Military ID, Passport (card), Concealed weapons permit, drivers license. All of which are in my wallet. Oh and the polling place was just a block away so I walked.

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    1. Re:UT - No problems by ichthus · · Score: 1

      Same story here -- except for the military ID. Everything went smooth and, thanks to Mia Love, I was able to vote straight (R) ticket this time.

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  167. IL - No waiting. In and out in 5 minutes. by KendyForTheState · · Score: 1

    That's all, folks!

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  168. forgot to add by bjdevil66 · · Score: 1

    Type of voting: Paper. Voted w/black pens on large, cardstock ballot (scantron style). Electronic reader scanned the ballot. Smooth process, knowledgeable volunteers.

    Research Time: President - WAY too much time. Watched all three presidential debates and a couple of the GOP primary debates...

    Research Time: Other issues - Yesterday I spent an hour researching the propositions on the ballot before deciding on them. Earlier this month I skimmed the paper booklet's campaign statements on my district and chose candidates for local offices (sheriff, state legislators, other commissioners, judges, etc.).

    NOTE: No Black Panthers stalking my polling place with clubs.

    1. Re:forgot to add by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 1

      I voted Flake. The guy opposed SOPA and is very anti-earmark.

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  169. CO - Denver suburb by khallow · · Score: 1

    No drama and no line. It was a paper ballot with ovals to fill in. Voted for Romney and against a US Representative that had voted for Obamacare. I also voted for Prop 64, some sort of pro-marijuana thing. It probably won't go anywhere simply because federal drug law supercedes state law. Having ground my ax, I strolled into a nice, sunny day.

  170. PA - uneventful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PA voter here -- I gave my name, signed, and was in-and-out. Despite the hassle over our (soon to take effect) voter ID law, I was not asked once to provide any identification.

    Now that I've typed that, I think that sounds just as scary as some of the stories where people needed mountains of documentation to register.

  171. WHO THE FUCK CARES! by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 0
    Either way the corporations win. That's the way it goes in the fascist/totalitarian/terrorist states.

    "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." (Josef Stalin)

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  172. TX - fastest ever by darronb · · Score: 1

    My small city at 8:15am had no line. The only way my voting could have gone faster is if the lady had the signature book open on the correct page already (5 seconds to switch), and if the lady at the door hadn't asked me my last name (another 5 seconds) to decide which empty line I should stand in.

  173. How is this relevant to /.? by realsilly · · Score: 0

    Is this topic really necessary on /.?

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    1. Re:How is this relevant to /.? by sideslash · · Score: 1

      Short answer: yes, it was necessary in the fullest Slashdot tradition, but thus far incomplete until you posted your complaint. Now all is well.

    2. Re:How is this relevant to /.? by bradorsomething · · Score: 1

      Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of these complaints...

  174. Re:Funny business across the country by Coolhand2120 · · Score: 1

    So I'm guessing that you're objecting to the fact that apparently only Democrats are up to shenanigans today. If you can find some links that show Republicans up to shenanigans by all means post them. This is what I found. I did not ignore any links of Republicans up to funny business, I simply didn't see any. You calling me biased because you don't like me reporting what Democrats are actually doing speaks volumes of your own bias.

  175. IN - No line, no choices by asylumx · · Score: 1

    I'm a Michigander just moved to Indiana but jeez am I disappointed with the options on the ballot. More than half the races were a republican candidate running completely unopposed, and most of the ones where there were two parties the only choices were D & R. When I was in Michigan, I voted Libertarian for most of the minor races, but here there aren't any. How disappointing!

  176. Re:Funny business across the country by Coolhand2120 · · Score: 1

    Can you be specific on what seems illegitimate about the stories? They seem pretty well documented. Just because you don't like that sort of thing being reported about the party you obviously support, doesn't mean it didn't happen. So please, enlighten me.

  177. SD - Doesn't matter, but voted anyway. by Remus+Shepherd · · Score: 1

    I'm an east coast liberal transplanted into the deep red state of South Dakota. So my vote doesn't matter one bit, but I cast it anyway. There was no line; it's a small town and we have nice weather today.

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  178. Re:Voting only works if really unique by asylumx · · Score: 2

    Wow, this democracy must have been hell back before cameras were invented, eh?

  179. FL -- Broward County -- Took a while by shipofgold · · Score: 1

    Waited in line outside an elementary school for 1.5 hours. Everybody was civil and no electioneering to be seen. We had a 7 page optical ballot (use black pen to fill in the little ovals), which is scanned as you are leaving. There were 12 amendments to the Florida constitution which were all very wordy, and which all seem to be special interest or religious in nature.

    I noticed that they had put the output of the "zero'ing" on the wall for those to inspect that the optical readers had been set to zero. We had to show a picture ID to vote, which everybody had.

    I was number 225 for the day who voted...the precinct captain told me that they normally only get 200-250 for the whole day....I was there at 11AM.

     

  180. CA-paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used paper ballots (4: national elections, local elections, local measures, and state propositions). I went in around 10am and waited ~20 minutes to get checked in, many waited longer. Voting took me ~30 minutes, because despite having read up on many of the state propositions and local measures in advance, I still needed to finish deciding on the candidates for school board, rent board, city council, etc.

  181. Very Small Town - No Waiting by sgage · · Score: 1

    I live in a very small town in NH. I went in to the Meeting House to vote around 10:00. I waited zero time to vote. Jim at the checking-in list said "hi Steve" as I walked in, checked me off the list, and handed me a ballot. I went into the cheesy aluminum booth with vinyl curtain, made my X-es with a number 2 pencil, came out and handed my ballot to John, who, as he has every year for the past 20 years I've lived here, solemnly placed it through the slot into the old oaken box. Godz only know how long that old oaken box has been in use! On my way out, I had a fresh-baked cookie and chatted with some of my fellow citizens before leaving.

    Everything isn't perfect about small town life, and it's not for everyone. But it works for me...

    1. Re:Very Small Town - No Waiting by ichthus · · Score: 1

      Nice. Of all the states on the East coast, NH, the freest state would be my first choice in which to live. I've never been there, but will definitely have to pass through (at the very least) on the way to a Niagara Falls visit, or something.

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  182. Re:Voting only works if really unique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Voter fraud is very rare in the US; Election fraud is a different matter. If you listen to media designed to lie to wingnuts, you might have a delusion that all kinds of voter fraud is happening, when it's not.

  183. Re:Voting only works if really unique by jedidiah · · Score: 1

    You don't need to force people to "show their papers" to avoid the problem of voting multiple times. One man one vote is easy enough to enforce even without Gestapo tactics.

    On the other hand, actual voter participation has been historically a much bigger problem.

    Partisans that game the system by intimidating voters and reducing participation should be ashamed. Unfortunately it is not so.

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  184. Re:OH - Why always swinging? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

    Voted first thing this morning as well. Went fine. Bigger turnout than I was expecting at that time.

    I'm curious...why is OH pretty much always a swing state?!?!

    I mean, I can understand a state changing slowly over years from one side to the other with population change/growth, but it seems with most states, the population grows more homogenous over time.

    why do a very few states, like OH, seem to never 'come together' one way or the other politically? What keeps them from doing what most states seem to naturally do, which is to move to predominately one side or the other?

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  185. VT - Paper ballot, maybe not anonymous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here in Vt one registers at the town clerk's office. Being on a boundary I was sent from the closest town to the next one; clerk's office in a house with no sign outside (locals just know about this). Upon seeing my address the clerk remarked that she was friends with my landlord. I got registered and had a paper arrive in the mail a few days later confirming it - my wife registered at the same time but did not get the confirmation paper. We also picked up ballots at this time.

    I researched candidates carefully and filled out the paper ballot. It's a "blacken the oval", heavy-paper type, appears machine-countable. This (for early voting which we opted for) then goes in an inner envelope with a form on it, to be filled in with name and a statement to sign and date. There's a warning that the vote won't be counted unless this form is filled out and signed. This then goes in an outer envelope which is plain. The sealed env then goes back to the clerk and into a box - well, spouse took it there and handed it to the clerk but didn't see it go in the box.

    Is any of this suspicious? Why aren't the envelopes the other way round, the identifiable form on the outside and the anonymous one inside? Then they could verify the form and put the ballots anonymously in a box. In the worst case scenario, corrupt clerks could just ditch votes from people they think are likely to vote contrary to the ideology of the clerk or whoever is really in charge. On the other hand it's incomparably better than electronic if honestly administered. Just hoping for the best here (I'm cynical about the presidential race but thought some of the state races could make a difference).

  186. OR - voted at a pub by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oregon is vote-by-mail. Received ballot and pamphlet three weeks ago. Filled it out at leisure over beer at a brew pub, dropped it off at the elections office on the way home.

  187. CA - No wait, paper "fill in the bubble" ballot by kalislashdot · · Score: 1

    Went into local polling place (a local church/private school) about 1 hour after polls opened. No wait, gave name and address, signed book, given paper ballot and marker. Filled in the bubbles that are well spaced apart and dropped in ballot box which had tie straps holding it shut. My county never hopped on the electronic machine craze and I am glad, the large sheet and optical scanner works very well, at least for a sighted person. I was in and out in 10 minutes.

  188. Re:GO THE FUCK AWAY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why don't you take your own advice and not read shit you don't care about? Cry some more eurotard.

  189. F.U.D. by westlake · · Score: 2

    I don't have a "valid ID" even though I'm on disability.

    Receives disability benefits but carries no valid photo ID?

    No Georgia EBT card?

    Required for "Food Stamps" and other services.

    No Veterans Identification Card?

    What IDs are acceptable?

    Any valid state or federal government issued photo ID, including a FREE Voter ID Card issued by your county registrar's office or the Georgia Department of Driver Services (DDS)

    A Georgia Driver's License, even if expired

    Valid employee photo ID from any branch, department, agency, or entity of the U.S. Government, Georgia, or any county, municipality, board, authority or other entity of this state.

    Valid U.S. passport ID

    Valid U.S. military photo ID

    Valid tribal photo ID

    Georgia Voter Identification Requirements

    1. Re:F.U.D. by Cito · · Score: 2

      They have teenagers running the voting areas, highschool volunteers from the local highschool and they are idiots.

      I called WCTV channel 6 news out of Tallahassee and they also have got reports and are sending a news van out. I've done a phone in interview about a 30 sec clip and called some 1800 number i was given.

      there is going to be absentee ballot sent out but the votes wont count for today's main count but will be tallied later as part of the absentee ballots that come in late along with overseas citizens, soldiers, etc.

      so they are mailing me a ballot to mail back in, but I dont see why I would be turned away at the booth my drivers id was expired in 2005 but I had a medicare card they refused to take, I don't get EBT, but I am on medicare. I also had a social security card but the kid kept saying VALID PICTURE ID! and they had some printouts pasted on the wall of the voting areas stating "VALID PICTURE ID REQUIRED" so they are morons.

      a ton of people got turned away according to WCTV 6 out of Tallahassee for southern GA.
      but it's now reported and we are getting mailed out ballots, its just out vote won't count as the main tally shown tonight on tv. ours will be counted as late mail in's along with overseas citizens and such according to the phone call. But at least ill have it mailed in, but it really wont matter if one of them get 270 electorals then there is no need to count the late ballots anyhow is there?

      so proof that some votes don't mean squat, course usually I never get involved with politics and never vote, this is my 3rd time voting in my entire life. I didn't think an expired id would be a problem since I'm disabled anyhow and dont drive.

  190. Mr Sulu reporting in by biodata · · Score: 1

    George Takei passed on a link to this interesting video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdpGd74DrBM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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  191. NY - 1 1/2 hours this Morning by Hangtime · · Score: 1

    NYC: They moved our election point so we ended up going to the wrong polling place. When we got to the correct polling place and standing in line for 20 mins, we found out our election district changed. Another 20 mins in line and we got our ballots finally for the correct election district. It sucks, but its your duty to vote.

  192. Re:MN - (small town) voted this morning by sensei+moreh · · Score: 1

    Only two lines here; A-L and M-Z. Three people in front of me at 9:15. Voter number 355 at my precinct (the electronic reader shows the number of ballots inserted). Last election at about the same time I was number 55.

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  193. AZ: I don't think my voted will be counted by idioto · · Score: 0

    I went to the polling place with my voter ID card and driver's license. Was on the list for the polls, but since they supposedly sent me an absentee ballot which I did not request, I was put on a provisional ballot. Had to wait an hour to actually cast a vote. Got a receipt from the polling guy who was handling provisionals. Took it back and read it later. Turns out it needed my signature, and the one of the poll worker. He didn't handle the provisional ballot correctly, and I am extremely pissed off. I shouldn't have had to cast a provisional ballot in the first place, and the polling worker did not handle the ballot properly. I am going to go back there and raise some hell later.

  194. FL - Deerfield Beach waiting game. by JoshDM · · Score: 1

    Coconut Creek.

    - Park on grass near school.
    - Line wrapped a quarter of the way around the building from the entrance at 9:20 AM.
    - Nice shade from trees, so the umbrella I brought was not necessary.
    - Noticed one Republican and one Democrat and one Teacher hand out flyers for themselves occasionally to the line, which is a NO-NO.
    - Outside wait was not bad, maybe 20 minutes; chatted with folks, didn't really discuss which way I was voting.
    - Saw two neighbors exit building at different times; gave one a fist bump.
    - Got inside and showed Driver's License.
    - Turn off phones.
    - Gave License to lady to swipe; she found my record, directed me to wait in another line for my district (9).
    - Had to wait 10 minutes for papers because (1) man in front of me couldn't figure out what he wanted from life (2) when I got to the desk, they had run out of privacy folders and had run to the machine in the back to retrieve more. Pollsters complained that there were not enough privacy folders. Honestly, you can't read the page from 3 feet away to see where I marked the circle, so I didn't care.
    - While waiting, noticed training papers on how to fill in the circle; had George Washington vs. Abraham Lincoln as candidates.
    - Saw another neighbor on LONG line with filled out papers waiting to put them into the feeder machine.
    - Got papers, but had to find my own privacy booth; found one without help from pollsters on second aisle.
    - Found a Democrat blue book someone left in the privacy booth; used it to answer one question, otherwise filled out the rest. Marked the wrong candidate with "Bob" nickname, so both candidates with "Bob" nicknames got my vote. Propose ban on nicknames.
    - Finished up after locating all YES/NO circles for all 10 amendments.
    - Got in line with filled out papers. Neighbor on line was 12 in front of me. That means this is a slow line.
    - Waited in line.
    - Started up chatter with others in line, made jokes about how I pretended to be a completely different person on a survey the prior day (true experience).
    - Waited in line.
    - Found out one person's husband is too lazy to vote today, but would have voted for the other candidate anyway, so glad he stayed home.
    - Waited in line.
    - Approached by child of ANOTHER neighbor who is 60% up the line; chatted for a bit, waved hi and gave the double thumbs-up.
    - Waited in line and chatted with nearby people. Discussed another survey earlier in year where I was asked who I'd vote for between Rick Scott and a ham sandwich (true experience).
    - Waited in line.
    - Neighbor gets near front of line; I loudly call child over to me. When she arrives, I loudly ask her to see if her mom would let me cut in front of her. Entire line laughs. Nice to ease up the tense crowd.
    - Waited in line.
    - Waited in line.
    - Get near the front; see one machine for district 9 and one for district 14. Process is, feed one paper in. Wait 10 seconds. Repeat. 5 papers per person. If you screw up, wait for 20 seconds worth of uninterruptible beeps from machine.
    - Watch as 2 people screw it up with beeps, but eventually feed in.
    - Fed in my papers correctly.
    - Get my sticker.
    - Leave.
    - Run into friends in exterior line; line now stretches 1/2 way around building; I warn them about interior line.
    - Get into the car and leave.
    - 2 machines to process all these people. Conclude voting Rick Scott out of office as soon as possible is the next course of action.

  195. TX - Voted with no problems by AdamStarks · · Score: 1

    I had to wait in line for a good 45 minutes, and voted without issue. We used electronic machines, but the input was buttons and a click wheel rather than touch.

    One guy ran into trouble, since he had just moved to a different county and wasn't in their system. He still had a lease on an apartment, so he was planning on trying to edge his way into a booth by responding to "Have you moved recently" with "I have an apartment across the street".

  196. Forgot to add, TOTAL TIME: 1 hour, 20 minutes. by JoshDM · · Score: 1

    Slashdot needs an edit feature.

    1. Re:Forgot to add, TOTAL TIME: 1 hour, 20 minutes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      tl;dr version:

      Wrote too much crap, forgot the important point.

    2. Re:Forgot to add, TOTAL TIME: 1 hour, 20 minutes. by JoshDM · · Score: 1

      0 score for this guy? I'd mod you up +1 funny.

  197. MN-Presidential wasn't why I voted by Mr.+Shotgun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Went and registered and voted in about 20 minutes. New to the area so had to bring a utility bill. Actually wasn't really concerned about the presidential elections as voting against a stupid amendment that was on the ballot. Minnesota is most likely going Obama but the votes on that amendment are too close to ignore. I have friends and family that are homosexual and I damn sure am not gonna sit on the couch while people try to take their rights away. Granted the stupid law already does that (and I voted against those jerks too) but I do not want it made that much more difficult to get it repealed by making it an amendment.

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    1. Re:MN-Presidential wasn't why I voted by EricWright · · Score: 1

      Good luck. Our Republican state legislature figured out a way to get our anti-gay-rights amendment on the ballot during the primaries which a) have notoriously low voter turnout and b) didn't have a Democratic race for president, further limiting the liberal vote. It probably didn't make a huge difference in the end, but it shows the lengths conservatives will go to in order to shove their morals down everyone else's throats.

  198. CT - Anticlimax by c0d3g33k · · Score: 1

    After enduring 18 months of campaign torture, I spend 18 seconds with a sharpie, get my sticker and it's over.

  199. NC - Last week: 20 minutes to register and vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Durham, NC

  200. WA - Gary Johnson by Fjandr · · Score: 1

    Voted days ago by mail.
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    Otherwise, I tend to agree with you.

  201. NY - Brooklyn by rabidkumquat · · Score: 2

    Voting went fine, but they ran out of "I voted!" stickers! How could this happen?? How else can I vent my smug satisfaction at having exercised my same-freedom-everyone-else-also-has?

    Here in NYC they don't even bother offering "I voted!" stickers. The smug satisfaction is just presumed on everyone's part.

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  202. NC - Scantron subsidies are alive and well. by Demoknight · · Score: 1

    NC - Good to know Scantron is getting subsidized

  203. Voter fraud is very real, and happening now by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

    If you don't think there is voter fraud you are not paying attention..

    How is it not voter fraud when you go to your polling place and someone has already voted for you?

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  204. MD - roughly one hour wait, disorganized judges by Vary+Krishna · · Score: 1

    Got in line around 9:20 and was out the door a little before 10:30. Judges were cheerful, friendly, enthusiastic and not even remotely on task. By the time I got to the front of the line the main bottleneck was the table where you gave your name and got your card, not the machines themselves; those judges had far too much downtime, imo, as voters were slowly brought over from a line halfway across the gym by a very sweet, very distractable lady. Little old lady who was trying to look up my name had some difficulty with her machine and needed help to get it working again, which left me standing at her station for a few minutes waiting for the problem to be resolved. By the time I got to the machines, the judges there had wandered off and I had to seek one out to escort me to one.

    Was a bit of a fuss at one point with some lady demanding to see a 'head judge,' who of course was nowhere to be found, and a few judges talking about how there were 'a lot of problems today,' but I was still too far back in the line to get any idea what the issue was. So not my most frustrating voting experience ever, but not exactly a walk in the park, either. The judges could have used either a little more leadership or a lot more training.

  205. IL - far western Chicago 'burb. by Walter+White · · Score: 1

    I walked in about 1/2 hour after the polls opened, signed my name and got a paper ballot. I filled it in after agonizing over a couple referenda, had it scanned and was on my way in no more than ten minutes.

    Bonus: Someone brought in a bowl of candy, no doubt left over from Halloween.

    Once I got home I posed the question on my buddies Facebook wall "Do you know how easy it is for someone who ever lived in Indiana to return and vote?" (He favors the other presidential candidate. :D )

  206. FL -- Small town -- scanned paper -- no waiting by TigerPlish · · Score: 2

    Dice has been rolled, waiting to see result.

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    The "Civilized World" jumped the shark ca. 1973.
  207. CA - Paper ballot, no line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    California: we had a 2 page, double sided paper ballot. Been doing research on the various props and measures. Had my choices written down on a separate piece of paper which I took with me to the polling place, (a local elementary school). Did not listen to debates - they're just the products of speech writers and Hollywood. I prefer to watch who the candidates surround themselves with.

    I haven't missed a single election since Nixon signed the bill into law, granting 18 year olds the right to vote.

  208. LA (Baton Rouge) - voted at 8AM by jitterman · · Score: 1

    Good turnout at my location, but moving steadily - only waited about 10~15 minutes. Racially, very diverse. Asian, white, black, and Hispanic from what I could see. People were polite.

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  209. MD - voted early on Friday by Benanov · · Score: 1

    Short line, less than 15 minutes and only one dude holding a sign outside my polling place. Voted around 20:00, I guess.

    Was able to laugh and happily ignore the last 5 days of attack ads, mailings, people begging on social media to vote one way or the other...it was nice. Very nice. I'd do it again.

  210. SC - Fixed Power for Voter Registration Computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    7:00AM - 40 minute wait in a very rural precinct. I normally show up at the polls at 7:00AM, when they open, and I'm usually in the single digits on the list where you sign you name. I was in the 30s and had to wait 40 minutes today. Also, the computer they were using to verify voter registration nearly ran out of power because they forgot to turn on the power strip. Fortunately, I found the problem and turned it on for them so the computer wouldn't go down. They had a night light plugged into one of the voting machines to verify that they were receiving power.

    To their defense, that power strip did not have a light to indicate that it was switched on, and the switch was on the edge and very hard to see. The poor little old ladies working the poll were in a panic when the computer told them that its battery was about to die and it was going to shut the computer down.

    We use voting machines in most precincts in SC. I don't trust the voting machines. No funny business in the polling place, though. The ladies are very careful not to say anything that could be interpreted as pushing one candidate or party over another.

    They also handed out information about the new Voter ID law, that goes into effect in January, 2013. The law has some weaknesses that could prevent it from being effective, but we can leave that discussion for after the election since the law has no impact on the current election.

  211. Re:OH - Why always swinging? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why do a very few states, like OH, seem to never 'come together' one way or the other politically? What keeps them from doing what most states seem to naturally do, which is to move to predominately one side or the other?

    No sure, to be honest. But if you look at the county breakdown during elections, it's often the major metropolis counties voting Democrat and the rural counties leaning Republican. In 2000 and 2004, Bush took Ohio largely because Cincinnati went that way. Obama took 2008 because Cincinnati went Dem. There were a couple other counties as well around Lake Erie, but there tends to be a pretty big divide between the the major cities and the surrounding areas.

    It's freaking annoying living in a swing state though -- every commercial is political, and my mailbox has been filled with campaign shit every day for months.

  212. No. Everyone has a right and duty to be involved. by jensend · · Score: 1

    I'm so glad you didn't vote. Uneducated people shouldn't vote.

    You know, every time I hear this, from people on both sides of the political spectrum, the very clear subtext is "... and anybody who disagrees with me is uneducated."

    In my state, we've had so much single-party dominance that a lot of elections are really determined in caucus and convention meetings, without even a primary. It's unbelievable how many people I hear saying this is a good thing because it keeps "uneducated" people from deciding elections. When confronted with poll data that shows that their choices, along with the state legislature's, often aren't at all representative of the public, they just say "well, they just don't know any better." It takes tremendous arrogance to think you should control the political system because you're one of the "educated elite" while your neighbors' voices should count for nothing.

    I agree that people need to do more to become informed rather than going to the polls and hitting the "straight-party ticket" button without even knowing the names of who they've just voted for. I don't agree with Cito's view of the EC, and I think his apparent apathy about state and local issues, though common, amounts to a shirking of civic responsibility.

    But that doesn't mean I think it's good that he become totally disengaged from the process of political dialogue and participation, and it doesn't mean that you or anyone is right to dismiss his views or the importance of his participation.

  213. Voted in FL the Saturday before last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I made sure to get in on the first early day possible so that I'd have plenty of time to deal with issues as they came up.

    I didn't think there'd be much of a turnout...but the line disagreed with me. I think half of the people there were senior citizens. There was also a group of three people going back and forth in the line just small talking with everyone. It was otherwise uneventful, and of course at any given moment there was one or two people who seemed to get lost going from one table to the next because it was so crowded...but they were pointed to the right directions without incident.

  214. You Insensitive Clod, I live in Oregon! by Penguinisto · · Score: 2

    Oregon does all the voting through the mail.

    It would be kinda boring to tell the tale, but okay: I sat in the living room, filled it out while Adult Swim played on TV, then I stuffed it in an envelope. Dropped it off at the post office on my way to work 2 weeks ago.

    'course, this whole vote-by-mail thing does destroy a good excuse to take half the day off from work. :(

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  215. Re:Voting only works if really unique by astrodoom · · Score: 2

    You don't need to force people to "show their papers" to avoid the problem of voting multiple times. One man one vote is easy enough to enforce even without Gestapo tactics.

    How?

  216. Fl. voter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I voted by mail several weeks ago as I was warned that the polling places would be jammed deliberately. In southern Florida they could not have tried harder to keep people from voting. The right wing is doing its best to steal this election. People waited in lines for early voting yesterday for nine hours only to be turned away. God help us if Obama does not win. I think big trouble would follow.

  217. WI - longer than normal... by weszz · · Score: 1

    Went in at right about 7am, normally I've been around #60-70 in my district, this time the line was out the door of the small church and I was #100. Was very sad I wasn't asked to prove who I was other than I knew a name and and address off the top of my head.

    Person in front of me was talking about his past experience being a poll watcher for Walker's recall vote... They see buses of people pull up and get off, they start asking people names and addresses to verify, a second bus pulls up, someone from the first group goes out and talks to them, the second bus loads up again and goes somewhere else to vote where there aren't poll watchers... I'm not sure how other states do it, but in WI, you can't just pick a random polling place. you go to the district you live in... This is why we need Voter ID so badly...

    1. Re:WI - longer than normal... by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 2

      Was very sad I wasn't asked to prove who I was other than I knew a name and and address off the top of my head.

      Security is for important things, like Facebook accounts; not unimportant things, like selecting the President of the US.

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      How can we continue to believe in a just universe and freedom to eat crackers if we have no ale?
    2. Re:WI - longer than normal... by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Went in at right about 7am, normally I've been around #60-70 in my district, this time the line was out the door of the small church and I was #100. Was very sad I wasn't asked to prove who I was other than I knew a name and and address off the top of my head.

      But wait, people keep protesting the Voter ID laws. (I think it's TRUE that (1) there seems to be virtually no voter fraud, and (2) some of the pro-Voter ID law people appear to be for the laws for prejudicial reasons⦠I still think one should have to show ID to vote. EVERYONE should.)

  218. Voted in VA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I went to the polling place here in Virginia around 8:30 this morning. I stood in line for just under an hour. I estimate that there were over 200 people in line waiting to vote. I've been voting in the same precinct since 1974 and have never before been in a line longer than 20 people. At the end of my hour in line waiting to vote, the line was just as long as it had been when I queued up. I drove past the place a couple hours later and the line was even longer. I don't know what this says about the outcome of this election. But it certainly looks like this election has gotten the attention of a lot of people.

  219. Re:Funny business across the country by EricWright · · Score: 1

    If you can find some links that show Republicans up to shenanigans by all means post them.

    I'm too bored to do much digging, but I read this one about an hour ago. http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/technolog/dont-pass-it-voting-booth-hoax-spreads-facebook-1C6884772. That said, maybe it isn't being perpetrated by R ... maybe a D is behind it in an effort to make it look like an R.

    In either case, there's lots of shenanigans going on by both major parties. Don't act so surprised.

  220. OH - Cuyahoga County, Went OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Walked in, gave the people at the desk my ID, they handed me 3 pieces of paper. Waited in line for 15 minutes, sat down at a booth and filled out my answers.

    Waited in another line to scan the papers in. The first one scanned in fine. The second one I tried to scan in and it said "operator error", I waited a second, tried again and it worked. The third paper scanned in without issue, and I walked away.

    Wasn't given a receipt or anything, or even an "I Voted" sticker.

    I Voted for Mitt Romney.
     

  221. Re:No. Everyone has a right and duty to be involve by IceNinjaNine · · Score: 1

    You know, every time I hear this, from people on both sides of the political spectrum, the very clear subtext is "... and anybody who disagrees with me is uneducated."

    .. and is, in fact, a poophead.

  222. absentee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In my state, we can vote via absentee ballot just by asking. I'd never done it before, but a friend has been voting that way for years so I tried it. We also now have a voter ID law, which I think is ridiculous so as a form of protest, from now on it's absentee for me.

  223. OR : Vote By Mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I Voted last week. Oregon is Vote by Mail.

  224. TX: Dallas - I won't vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I live in Texas which is a great state filled with just too many dumbasses who will vote republican/christian even if if they came right out and said they were going to give all the money to the rich and worship satan. I think Jon Stewart got it correct when he said this midwest area should be known as Dumbfuckistan.

    I can't wait until the next election when Texas will probably be a swing state!

    1. Re:TX: Dallas - I won't vote by irenaeous · · Score: 1

      What is curious is that Romney's Mormon religion which is monolatrous and technically has Satan as Jesus's spiritual brother must count as very close to Satan worship in any fundamentalist Christian theology. That and lowering taxes on the rich... well there you have it.

  225. Re:OH - Why always swinging? by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

    why do a very few states, like OH, seem to never 'come together' one way or the other politically? What keeps them from doing what most states seem to naturally do, which is to move to predominately one side or the other?

    It probably has to do with the amount of interstate activity between OH and the states around it; Ohio is really a mix of north, south, east and west, complete with the political ideologies predominant there. Since it has major cities but also bedroom communities specifically interstate commuting communities, you end up with fairly active and strong rep and dem contingents living side by side in the same state.

    You can see this to some degree in other nearby states like WV as well -- due to the north part being significantly different from the south. PA, on the other hand, tends to be more homogeneous, due to population density distribution and the fact that most people commute IN to PA, not out.

  226. Absentee ballot fraud by dtmancom · · Score: 1

    Voted first thing. The woman in front of me in line was told she already voted by absentee ballot, she said she had never even applied for one. I didn't see how that turned out.

    Now I hear that sort of thing is happening a lot.

  227. Low level hostility, always by Bugler412 · · Score: 1

    I live in a very hard core Democrat dominated district, with a strong concentration of union labor types. Different party registrations and independents go into different lines at the polling place, I've been registered independent for my entire life. But in my district, if you are registered republican or independent, you always get the evil eye from the poll workers and bystanders as if you're some sort of interloper. Not to mention having to self identify party affiliation (or lack thereof) to the poll workers and those others that can see the lines forming. Always uncomfortable, but I still do it. Today was no exception.

  228. MA - Boston Area by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Surprisingly long lines, more than 25 minutes. That being said the line moved steady, albeit slow, pace, but people were generally in good spirits.

  229. IL - BFE by curiousJan · · Score: 1

    And to provide input to the topic: Moved cities but not county a few months ago, hadn't updated DL yet. Drove to old town, no wait, fill-in-the-bubble paper ballot, attendant not allowed to touch my ballot I had to feed it into the scanner myself, received my "I Voted" sticker and off I went back to work.

  230. MD - Voted October 28 by tadas · · Score: 1

    In Montgomery County. It took 2 hours on Sunday afternoon. Electronic voting machines. It took me about 3 minutes to cast my vote, even though I'd prepped with a sample ballot, as there were 7 referendum items and 2 county questions, in addition to the candidates.

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  231. WA - Everyone already voted by Eightbitgnosis · · Score: 1

    Almost everyone in Washington votes by mail

  232. WA - Mail in Ballot (like all Washingtonians) by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

    Received my ballot in the mail about a month ago. Filled it out while reading the numerous newspaper endorsements online and our State's online voter's guide with all the Pro/Con arguments.

    I dropped it in our outgoing letter box the next day... realized seconds later that I had forgot to put a stamp on it and ran up to our office, grabbed a post-in note and asked if the mail man could bring it up when he came.

    A couple hours later the mailman stopped by the office, I popped a stamp on it and off he went.

    A week or two later I checked in to our ballot tracker http://info.kingcounty.gov/elections/ballottracker.aspx and saw that it was received and processed. No uncertainty if I'll be counted.

    Washington State has its shit together. The only thing I could improve upon the system would be to have the ballot be a bulk-mailer and not require a stamp.

  233. IN - The land of the supreme court case by mordred99 · · Score: 1

    Indiana - land of supreme court tested voter ID act. I will stop by the polls at 4:30 and usually am out in less than 10 minutes, voting on a the same electronic machine that has been there for 15 years. Cheap and reliable and we usually have our complete county count by 7:30 on election night (polls close at 6:00). My son is there now (and texting me) and like 15 people are there but high school kids just got out of school.

  234. CA - Mail Voted by milbournosphere · · Score: 1

    Had to pay for a stamp, and didn't get a sticker.

  235. FL - 3 1/2 hour line at 7:45am by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Orlando. Line was 3 1/2 hours long by 7:45. There was confusion as they merged two precinct voting areas into the same area, a clubhouse of an apartment complex. Dumb ghetto ladies running the show compounded the problem; a turf battle of sorts played out in front of us. There was also lots of rain this morning but people were cool enough to share umbrellas and joke around and generally have a pleasant time under the circumstances. So much for that divided country nonsense that the media narrative says.

    I felt like my polling station was a pretty even racial cross-section: about 1/3 white, 1/3 black, and 1/3 hispanic. Maybe slightly more men than women.

    Used a paper ballot that was read electronically. I made my mind up prior to 2008; the last four years just reinforced my beliefs. Hopefully this time I'm on the winning side.

    Best election jokes from my 3 1/2 hour wait:
    1) "Damn, this iPhone line gets longer every year."
    2) "Where's the bathroom, because I have to vote yes on 2, if ya know what I mean?"
    3) "How is it that we can't streamline an election but I can order a pizza online and have it at my door in 30 minutes?"
    4) "What's the over-under on our cellphone batteries dying before we get a chance to vote?"
    5) (*after hearing an election official needing some red electrical tape to mark a queue line for the ballot feeder computer*) "There's something ironic about the government using red tape for this."
    6) "Can we get Apple to create voting machines that won't crash? Put them in all-white, naturally, with a nice retina screen, and call them the iLections? How hasn't anyone thought of this yet? Oh...Steve Jobs is dead and they're too busy suing Samsung...right."

  236. PA - fraud alert by tomhath · · Score: 1

    Here in PA I just walked in, told them my name, and voted. No ID required (Democrats squashed that requirement). I noticed a couple of my relatives who haven't lived around here for years are still registered to vote but didn't try returning later and claiming to be them.

    I've seen reports of a video "proving" that the electronic machines are rigged so you can't pick Obama. The video is the only thing fraudulent. It shows the guy's finger touching the screen trying to pick Obama but the selection says on Romney; then he touches Stein and the selection skips across Obama and stops on Stein. What the video doesn't show is the trackball that controls your selection that the guy is obviously moving with his other hand off camera; the machines are NOT touchscreen.

  237. Re:CO-Voted by mail by oxdas · · Score: 2

    I also voted by mail in CO. There was a "I voted" sticker attached to my mail-in ballot. I wonder if it comes down to which county you live in.

  238. OH - voted by mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got a ballot by mail a month ago, and mailed it in a couple of weeks back. I always vote by mail, any more, because 1) there are so many issues and judgeships (especially) in Ohio, and it's very helpful to have the ballot in front of me to consider, and 2) this is Ohio.

    It isn't that I think voting by mail is so much more reliable than electronic machines, really. I put my ballot in the mail and beyond that I have to take it on faith that it even reaches the board of elections, let alone gets counted. (I've hand-delivered my ballot in the past, but since I voted for Jill Stein it's more of a symbolic act that anything, and I didn't feel like it was worth the trip downtown to the BoE just for that.) But I read stories about the lines, and I've been a poll worker personally; I know precisely what hopeless chaos prevails at even an ordinary polling place on election day.

    From my perspective, the states handling their entire elections by mail have the right idea.

  239. WA - The Best by Aerosiecki · · Score: 1

    Voted today in Washington state. Well, "today" is a misleading word.

    I got my ballot weeks ago, spent about 12 full hours doing research with the provided ~100pg guide and an additional ~200 google searches. Carefully considered each vote, filled in the ovals (or abstained where appropriate), sealed her up, and dropped her off at a dropbox today.

    I wish more states worked this way. I shudder to think the number of folks in walk-up-and-vote states that go on a whim, punch the name of a person they've seen on a commercial, and never give it another thought.

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    Cherish. Live. Dream.
  240. VT: My experience by moeinvt · · Score: 1

    Got up about 5:30, took a shower, shaved, made coffee, ate breakfast. Got to the polls shortly after 7:00 AM when they opened. Voted in absolutely meaningless Presidential, Congressional and Senatorial election. Took about 40 minutes, including the wait, and the time I had to spend driving out of my way to get to the polls.

    Got delayed by unusually heavy traffic, both because of the polls and because I'm usually on the roads much earlier.

    Thank $deity this will be over soon and we can eradicate people's hopes of any positive change through the electoral process.

  241. IL: voted this morning by seven+of+five · · Score: 1

    Chicago. Rummaged through the bill pile to find our new voter ID cards had different ward and precinct numbers. Same polling place - a restaurant down the block. Friendly staff. A LOT of judges on the ballot and a couple referenda (?) I hadn't heard about for teacher's pensions and limiting corporate political contributions. Voted on a paper ballot using a marking pen to fill in arrows.

  242. NY, zero people ahead of me by slothman32 · · Score: 1

    Like usual there were few people here.
    It seems odd for me to hear 100's of people when there are none in my station.

    I, except for a seniority aspect, didn't vote R or D, I did write myself in for one position as I was better than the RorD-only people available.

    I used scanned-paper but luckily not Diebold/whatever.
    I still liked the lever machines.

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    Why don't you guys have friends or journals?
  243. NY (Long Island) -No Issue by ios+and+web+coder · · Score: 1

    My voting district is small. No issues at all. They have a new system, where you fill in scan cards (up until just a few years ago, they used the wonderful 1950s-"Crank Machines").

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    "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong."

    -H. L. Mencken

  244. Veteran for America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    CT-
    Voted about 9 this morning.

    Hoping we can send Zomney back under his rock QUICKLY today, and move on with getting this country back together.
    "W" wrecked it in 8 years and it will take a lot longer to get it back to where it was.... but Obama is off to a good start.

    I try not to think about how many MORE american jobs would be outsourced if Romney manages to fool enough people to win.
    I lived in Massachusetts while he was running the state and can tell you he did no favors to the people who elected him to that office either.

  245. TX: Dallas - I VOTED (and so should you) by bit+trollent · · Score: 1

    I can't wait until the next election when Texas will probably be a swing state!

    Not if you don't vote, dumbass.

    Seriously.. you are right that Texas is filled with abject morons.

    However, if you don't vote, don't count yourself as one of the smart people.

    By the way, as a real city, Dallas has several Democratic house seats and close local elections. By not voting, you let the retards (or should I say other retards) win.

    I live in Dallas and I Voted for Barack Obama, Democrats, and Greens in that order.

    There is still time!!

    VOTE!!!

  246. Re:OH - Why always swinging? by irenaeous · · Score: 2

    Because Ohio is split between north and south much like the rest of the eastern US with the north more liberal and democrat and the south more conservative and republican. The division crosses economic and cultural lines. In southern Ohio you will find lots of people with southern or hillbilly accents while northern Ohio has typical mid-western accents. The southern areas are "bible belt", northern areas not so much. The southern economy is agricultural, rural and resource based (coal), the northern is old industrial (auto & steel). Here's an article on it: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/11/05/3901108/5-ohios-analyzed-in-swing-state.html. It's a serendipitous mirroring of the red state/ blue state division of the whole USA. That is why it doesn't come together.

  247. Re:Voting only works if really unique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No one does not go to vote because they think there will be "ID problems". It never comes up with anyone I talk to.

    That's because none of the people you talk to are poor, elderly, or minorities, and probably represent less than 1% of the population of your city or town.

  248. VA - 40 minutes in the off-times by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    Patient crowd, 40 minutes of serpentine line through the cafeteria tables. Not really a get off and get right back in line kind of thing, but it was fun, though. I might get back in line for one more ride before the park closes for the night, but only if I can find the funnel cake stand first.

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    Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
  249. CA - Voted on my way home... by Nolook · · Score: 1

    I work overnights, so it was easy to vote on the way home after work. No real line to speak of. I already knew all the decisions I would make.

    I stated my last name and then pointed it out to the poll worker because a lot of people just have problems with my uncommon last name. She had lost her pen, so I signed with mine and then gave her my pen. The next poll worker asked if I lived on while I signed. I said "Yes, Ma'am." She then read out my full street address as a statement (not a question), which I found just a bit odd, but not overly so. The third poll worker said there were new rules, and I was supposed to bring sandwiches for everyone. He still handed me my ballot, though.

    Ballots are marked with an inkspot marker, very simple to use. Insert the ballot into the "booklet" and start turning pages. Options are always on the left side only, right-hand page stays blank. Only valid spots are exposed on the ballot, so there is very little margin for error, unless you somehow don't put the paper in all the way and slip both tabs into the alignment holes.

    When done, I folded ballot in half as I was shown. Gave it to the poll worker, who tore off my "receipt" and had me unfold and slide my ballot into the reader. He looked at a display I couldn't see and said I had the "right score" and handed me my "I Voted" sticker.

    No ID required. I got a slight reprimand the first time I ever voted in California years ago when I walked in with my ID already out and tried to hand it to the poll worker. She threw her hands up as if I was trying to hand her a rattlesnake. I had been in the military for all my previous votes, so showing ID was second nature. It still feels weird not showing ID, even though I know who I am.

    All told, it took ~five minutes from exiting the car to driving off.

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    "Cries and screams are music to my ears." - Soundwave
  250. Write-in, baby! by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    How many times do you get to vote for yourself for president, anyway? Take your chance!

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    Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
  251. WA: Whole state is by mail by mschuyler · · Score: 1

    Voted weeks ago. There is a county web site where you can verify your ballot was received. No buttons. No electronics. No chads. It's a blue state, so a waste, but hopefully makes a difference for some of the local races.

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    How about a moderation of -1 pedantic.
  252. Re:Funny business across the country by Microlith · · Score: 2

    So I'm guessing that you're objecting to the fact that apparently only Democrats are up to shenanigans today.

    Oh of course, only Democrats would do bad things. Republicans are right and good and would never dare fuck with the vote to win. Oh wait.

    I did not ignore any links of Republicans up to funny business, I simply didn't see any.

    Republicans have been up to funny business in state legislatures across the country deliberately making it harder for people to vote under the guise of "preventing vote fraud," despite the fact that the only people caught recently were Republicans. That you think they aren't up to any funny business means you're blind to the legislative bullshit they've been pulling across the country to fuck over the citizens of their states and this country.

    You calling me biased because you don't like me reporting what Democrats are actually doing speaks volumes of your own bias.

    Given you cite a number of articles on aggressively "conservative" web sites, I suspect that you refuse to look outside your tiny world.

  253. Why not tax political spending? by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    Why not implement a 20% federal and 10% local tax on all election spending? After all, the politicos are always trying to squeeze money out of us. Seems like the voters win 2 ways. First, more money into government coffers that didn't make a pit stop in my wallet. Second, fewer @$@!*%^ misleading ads and mailers.

    As for voting, like I have for the past 15 years or so, I mailed the turkey in a couple weeks back.

    Love watching the bozos with their surge in last minute spending when I, and almost everyone I know, has already mailed it in.

  254. Re:Voting only works if really unique by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

    Actually, it sort of was.

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  255. Voting is different states by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read that each state has its own database to keep track of who has already voted to keep people from voting more than once.

    How does the system keep people from voting in multiple states?
    This is especially worrying since some states have early voting. A person could easily vote all over the place.

  256. GA Here Too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What kind of bothered me is that I used my drivers license. They scanned it which brought my information on their screen. Then they put in a programmable card while my informations was up. Handed me the card that I'd take to the machine.

    It would be simple to link my ID to the card they inserted to the machine I voted on with the results. I'm not sure they're capturning this data but voting is supposed to be secret. They way I was enterd it would have been really easy to track my voting preferences.

  257. HI - Aiea (Honolulu suburb) Easy by relaxinparadise · · Score: 1

    No wait. Greeted kindly and informed on procedure. Was given choice between paper ballot or machine. Accepted a paper one and filled in the boxes. Submitted into ballot box. Was thanked for voting and left. I sympathize for voters having problems. I am grateful to have it so nice.

  258. Re:Voting only works if really unique by RabidReindeer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You don't need to force people to "show their papers" to avoid the problem of voting multiple times. One man one vote is easy enough to enforce even without Gestapo tactics.

    How?

    One way that's popular in less-developed areas is to simply apply an indelible dye to the voter's hand. Since it takes a few days for the dye to wear off and the election is only for a single day, it makes it pretty hard for someone to attempt to vote more than once. Providing that the election officials are honest, anyway.

  259. Re:Voting only works if really unique by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

    Partisans that game the system by intimidating voters and reducing participation should be ashamed. Unfortunately it is not so.

    That's no way to talk about our state Governors!

  260. Eldavojohn, voting like a mad man!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Voted thrice in Minnesota and many times in Virginia.

    Eldavojohn, you da' man!!! That gives a new meaning to "vote early, vote often" what with the airplane trip and TSA gropping between trips to the polls in two different states!!! As long as you're voting for my candidate, keep up the good work.

  261. OH - Scantron, no issues by GlennC · · Score: 1

    The polling place was moved across the street, from a local church to the Public Safety building (combined police and fire station).

    I was directed to the correct line for my precinct (there were two), got my ballot on two large Scantron sheets, which I had to fill out both sides (lots of issues to vote on.)

    It took about half an hour at 8 AM. My wife just voted, and the line was shorter in late afternoon.

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    Go on, citizen, stamp the vote card. R or D, your choice.
  262. MA-no waiting by omission9 · · Score: 1

    I went to the polling place with two other people. They were the only two people in front of me in line. ;)
    Smooth process. Ballot was 1 long 2-sided sheet.
    I asked a friend that lives in NC and was told that long lines in other states are likely due to 10+ page ballots combined with large turnouts.

  263. TX, Mixed bag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Voted this morning at 8:15 after waiting one hour.

    The Good:
    -The whole process was orderly and organized
    -My voter registration worked fine, and no one mistakenly asked for ID
    -Electronic voting machine seemed to work just fine- no touch screen, let me easily select my choices, and the confirmation screen even matched my selections. So I assume my vote went through correctly.

    The Bad:
    -Voting was delayed by about 30 minutes due to (they claimed) a problem with the computer systems used to check the voter registrations. That had me putting my tinfoil hat on right after I got there, but things seemed to go smoothly after that.

    The Ugly:
    -Despite my local county and city websites not mentioning anything about them, there were 4 ballot measures on the ballot, so I walked in cold on those issues. Left them blank.

    It should be noted that I just moved to the state this summer. The registration process was pretty painless. I only voted on the national positions since I don't know enough about the state and local politicians/issues to have an educated opinion on them.

  264. Re:Voting only works if really unique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Purple dye on the finger that doesn't wash off for days -- 3rd world countries solved that problem.

  265. Re:SC - Fixed Power for Voter Registration Compute by querist · · Score: 1

    This was my post - I don't know why it came up as AC.

  266. MI - Rediculiously Long Wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Vienna Township, MI redrew our precincts this year due to the census. They claim that the number of people in each Precinct is roughly equal.

    Waited in line 2 hours (1 - 3pm) to vote in Precinct 1 ... Lines for Precincts 2-4 were ghost towns. Sad part is some of the people in line were saying it was even worse this morning, when the line was out the building and half way down the block. Workers said it had been like this all day.

    Guy in front of me spent 15 minutes refusing to show his ID ... not because he didn't have one; just because he didn't like the fact they were swiping it into a computer.

    Paper ballots ... Two pages long (front and back) ... only electronic voting machine in site was reserved for the handicap.

    Had to wait in line another 15 minutes to put the ballot into the scanning machine before leaving.

    Its never been this bad before; either the township redrew the precincts all screwy or there's a lot of people wanting a change.

  267. Pittsburgh, PA: Nothing fancy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Voted today in a car dealership. There were two precincts or districts or what have you in one place with only a small sign (concealed by the lines) indicating the correct line in which to stand. Luckily we got in the correct line. I was asked for an ID, even though I apparently don't have to show one.

    Did my first electronic voting as IL (former residence) did paper ballots the last time I voted. I touched one senator and it selected the other one, but it was not terribly difficult to correct. (My buddy said I needed Homer's dialing wand.)

    The one thing that stood out to me was the political advertisement on the windows of the dealership. In IL you couldn't have any campaigning within a certain distance from the voting booths. Here, there were signs taped to the windows of the room (again, a car dealership showroom, voted next to a CRV I think).

    Overall, I'm glad to be done with it.

  268. HI - Kona - choice of paper or electronic by gkndivebum · · Score: 1

    No waiting - choice of paper or electronic. Most people opting for paper (as I did). Process was pretty painless;
    in addition to the federal election there are some choices for local stuff: state senator and representative, trustees
    for the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, county mayor and prosecuting attorney; some proposed state constitutional
    amendments and several Hawaii County charter amendments.

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  269. CA: mail-in ballot by Matt · · Score: 1

    I sent in a mail-in / absentee ballot, which was much like filling out a Scan-Tron form for a test in school. Choosing which circles to fill in was a bit tricky though. (Fill in #92 to vote yes on Proposition 33; fill in #97 to vote no on Proposition 34; etc.) I triple-checked everything.

    An interesting bit was I got a call from a 'bot at the Los Angeles County Registrar's office Sunday. It more or less said "If you've already mailed in your ballot, disregard this message. If you haven't mailed in your ballot, it's too late. Drop it off at a polling place."

    Also on the radio this morning it said that 51% of voters in CA are mail-in for this election.

  270. VT - Voted (on scanable paper ballot) last week. by NothingWasAvailable · · Score: 1

    That is all.

  271. Didn't vote? Don't complain ... by NothingWasAvailable · · Score: 1

    ... about how the country is run unless you (1) aren't a US citizen or (2) belong to a class of US citizens that are otherwise not permitted to vote (such as you're reading Slashdot on the computer in your prison library).

    If they tell you your ID is wrong/invalid/inadequate, ask for a provisional ballot.

  272. Re:OH - Why always swinging? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Probably because a reasonably sized portion of the state is made up of pragmatic working class moderates. Just because a candidate is liberal or conservative doesn't mean they're equidistant from the middle.

  273. SC - Charleston, 20 minuites in line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SC - Charleston 20 minute wait
    Took longer to drive to polling place from work than to wait in line.
    Did not even bother going in the morning as the daily rush hour drive from polling location would have added two hours to my drive to work.
    No concern on voter ID law as IDs not required until January 2013.
    Don't vote D or R for offices by rote, normally review candidates on their own merits or lack thereof.

    Absolutely disgusted by R shenanigans this year on having opponents excluded from races on technicality. It was either R or write-in for all local races as they had all D candidates disqualified for not submitting a paper copy of a form with the application they were told they could (and did) submit online. If you didn't have deep pockets for ads and signs, who (in the normal non-slashdot crowd) would know to vote for you?

    1. Re:SC - Charleston, 20 minuites in line by hackula · · Score: 1

      OP here. I was actually in Charleston as well. I had no idea that was the cause of the lack of diversity on the ballot. It really was striking looking down the ballot and seeing nothing but (R) and (Write in).

  274. NJ disenfranchised by Bigby · · Score: 1

    I was disenfranchised in NJ. And not because of Hurricane Sandy.

    I am in Jersey City. One of the place where power is still out from the storm. I go into the voting area, which has had power for a while. My name isn't on their thing. I told them I moved to NJ from OH in April and got my license and voter registration changed in May. They are like "yea, they aren't that fast in NJ". 6 months?!

    So I did a provisional ballot. I interpret it as a "your vote won't count" ballot. The thing wouldn't even seal shut. So now my vote isn't anonymous and it can easily be tampered with.

    And I need to reiterate. This has NOTHING to do with Sandy. This is normal operations.

  275. Re:TX - Voted EARLY with no problems by scumdamn · · Score: 1

    Voting early is awesome in Texas and especially Travis county. We really want people to vote around here. You can vote in any of the locations for weeks ahead of the election.

  276. KS - I voted today! by JasoninKS · · Score: 1

    Voted mid-morning today. Had a decent line. There were 2 lines actually. The first was for the blasted voter ID crud. (sorry, but fraud is not really an issue) It was the slowest line by far and easily backed up. The second line was for electronic voting. If you didn't mind doing a paper ballot you could skip the second line as there was no waiting to do paper.

  277. BC -- Can't vote, Can't donate, Can call People by darkonc · · Score: 1
    I'm Canadian, and I live in Canada (A few miles from the border). I obviously can't vote, and can't donate to either side, but I can take the time to call people and encourage them to vote -- and I'm going to do that. I've got unlimited US long distance, I might as well make use of it.

    You might ask why a Canadian cares about the US election -- well what Washington does hase a real effect on what happens in Canada. As former Prime Minister Trudeau once said ... It's like sleeping with an 800lb gorilla. When the US sneezes, Canada gets a cold. I've also got friends and relatives in the US who'll be negatively affected if the Republicans get in and go forward with their promises to big business and the super wealthy.

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  278. NM - no wait, scanned paper by twrayinma · · Score: 1

    "Fill in the bubble completely" then fed into a scanner.

    Double-sided legal sized paper.

  279. GA - not allowed to vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GA, not allowed to vote

  280. UK: literally don't give the smallest shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they're all the same

  281. GA - Atlanta suburbs, Diebold machines, minor wait by tguyton · · Score: 1

    My polling place was packed when I passed by on the way to work with cars lined up in the street trying to get in around 8:20. Came back just after 3 this afternoon and it wasn't so bad - waited about 30-35 minutes in line. Two massage therapists in front of me were having an animated discussion about how the human body is not very well-adapted to walking upright on two legs.
    Ballot itself was very short, much shorter than the off-cycle one earlier this year. Besides the presidential candidates, there were maybe 4-5 various local positions. I wrote in the names of my kitties for a couple where the jackasses were running uncontested.
    The polling place itself was pretty calm - it's a city community center. There were no signs, ads, or propaganda outside the building. To get from work to my polling place, I actually passed a church that serves as another polling place, which was littered with campaign ads.
    Overall a fairly uneventful experience, although I'd much prefer it that way. I was a little irked that Gary Johnson made the ballot but Jill Stein was just a write-in, but so it goes.

  282. Re:Voting only works if really unique by immaterial · · Score: 2

    You've seriously never seen photos of people in low-tech, war-torn areas proudly holding up their inked finger to show they voted?

    But all this is beside the point. In-person voter fraud is so incredibly rare it isn't worth worrying about, much less disenfranchising tens or hundreds of thousands of people.

  283. MA - Belmont by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Went at 7:30 with my son (it's his first time voting). Line was out the door; it moved slowly but consistently and we were done within 40 minutes.

    While we were voting, the Mittster 3000/Willard and his wife were voting about 1/2 mile away. The Secret Service cleared the building while they voted under cameras from local TV and reopened it after they left. There were some embarrassingly awkward hugs as he said goodbye to his wife, son, and grandchildren. No warmth at all.

    Saw my first "Mitt for Prez" sign in town this week; I don't get over to his side of town very often. I don't expect that he'll carry this town in the election (and he's lived here since '71). He didn't carry it in his Senatorial or Gubernatorial campaigns and, in fact, lost his own precinct (mostly $1-4M homes) when he ran against Ted Kennedy. (The town is populated by Harvard, MIT, and Boston/Cambridge high tech company employees; very affluent and very liberal.)

    I just hope that the rest of the nation takes the lead from those of us who have had to deal with this twit in the past. Obama may have some weaknesses but Willard will be a disaster and we'll have to listen to him talk down to us for four years about how we don't deserve him.

  284. TX - electronic, moderate wait, confusion abounds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've moved a couple of times in the last 6 years and even though I'd swear Texas has a "motor-voter" registration deal and my driver's license was current as of the general election in 2010, the voter registration people still had my previous address on file, so it's fill out a statement of residency and get on with the vote. There was a long line for the electronic voting machines (probably about 20 people in front of me) and there hasn't been a paper ballot option in Austin for ages. Alas, the poor woman who moved recently and failed to bring any form of ID (I thought Texas was a no ID state was her quote - it's a no photo ID state at present) spent a long time chatting with the registration folks and the voter hotline only to eventually be told to get some ID (almost anything is acceptable in Austin including utility bills [cool I can vote in the precincts where I've got rental properties], bank statements, etc.)

  285. NV - Sample ballots? by yurtinus · · Score: 1

    We get sample ballots mailed mailed to us out here that have all of the candidates on them as well as any regional or state ballot questions (similar to the California propositions we hear so much about but way *way* less ridiculous). Most people research before hand and just bring their sample ballots in with them. Is this not the case in other areas?

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  286. WA: Drop-off point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WA: Received ballot in mail, filled it out on my own time, then drove out and dropped it off at a designated point (with a couple pollsters and a cop sitting around to watch for trouble). No line.

    I could have dropped it off anytime in the preceding week, or I could have put a stamp on it and mailed it, too.

  287. MD- 1 hour wait + interesting observation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got to the polls in Baltimore at about 7:15 and ended up with an hour wait. Voting itself was easy on an electronic machine (which I don't mind, but apparently some people do).

    I did find it interesting that all the machines are daisy-chained together for power. The one on the end was plugged into the wall, with each successive one plugged into it's neighbor. I don't know how the machines are designed, but a single point of (power) failure seemed like a bad idea...

  288. CA: voted, machines down. by greywire · · Score: 1

    Out of some 10 or so electronic voting machines, 6 were not working.

    So much for technology.

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    -- Senior Software Engineer, Attorney appearance services, locallawyerapp.com.
  289. OH - Early voting worked for me. by kervaw · · Score: 1

    Voted almost 2 weeks ago, early voting center nearby, easy in, easy out, maybe 10 minutes but I took the time to read the issue items on the ballot.

  290. ok if "both" parties help? Re:Columbus, OH Voter by Fubari · · Score: 1

    In Chicago this morning I saw an election judge chastising a volunteer (I'm assuming they're all volunteers) who was answering a voter's questions on ballot organization or maybe interpretation (r.e. the lady in your post). The judge was pretty worked up about the volunteer helping the voter in isolation (e.g. solo, with no other volunteers present); she went went on for a few minutes about needing to have both a Democrat + Republican assist at the same time if any voter needed help with their ballot.
    I was amused. It made me wonder how things would work out if (when?) a 3rd party crosses that 5% mark, will they need 3 "assistants" to make sure things are neutral?
    I was also amused after the judge shushed the volunteer back to sit down at the table the voter was asking the judge questions.
    Seriously though, the volunteers - are trying hard; I am grateful they put in the hard work that they do. It has to get old managing a polling station after a few hours.

  291. HAHAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm NOT voting (Ever) until there is something worth actually voting for. None of any of your votes makes any difference at all.... none. My friend and his uncle or buddy or whatever.. were all talking last night how they were going all republican and Romney needs/should win. These are average, low income americans (no college education)... basically religiously voting for Romney(a corporate shill, imho). I was like why would you even consider him? WTF do you think he is going to do that will help you in any way?

    Complete silence.... then I hear them all start trying to argue with me about how Obama is spending more money than any other president ever, and all this debt we have is all his his fault. Sadly I gave up trying to debate with them that the VAST majority of that debt falls squarely into Bush jr's lap (Repub btw). Obama was just unlucky enough to become POTUS and have all this shit dumped into his lap from his predecessor. They all seemed to have conveniently forgotten that this TRILLION+ dollar "war" we're still in (yes there are still troops over in iraq and a lot more over in afghanistan now) was Bushes doing. And the whole wallstreet shitstorm was coming a long time ago. Hell I think there were economists that predicted that this would happen like 10-20 years ago, but no one listened.

    anyways my point, if there is one is that everyone in congress, the senate, ..etc ALL need to have their asses fired. They bicker and throw tantrums back and forth instead of trying to find some sort of middle ground while working with WHOEVER is president. Obama had a lot of good ideas, many were ideas from normal people that sent them in... but nooooo, nothing got passed because of all this childish behavior of whos side "wins" or can gather more power and influence.

    That whole thing about having to have insurance soon or you get fined..... yeah wouldn't have happened if they had worked together instead of fighting the president... we could all have full healthcare coverage... but no. Go ahead and look at anything the president has wanted to put forward and see what happens when it goes to the floor for a vote and the end result that comes from that........ > bunch of morons geez. We could have had full coverage and paid less in taxes than we pay right now for our health insurance premiums. /facepalm

    the whitehouse site used to have a page where people could enter topics and others could vote for them. the top ones were like:

    legalize/decriminalize Cannabis for adults and regulate like alcohol was like 3-4 of the top 10 things people voted they wanted on the site.

    Reinstate peoples rights. repeal the patriot act and all that other nonsense like warrantless wiretapping... which is completely illegal yet courts and everyone else in government said fuck you we're going to do it.

    First world quality healthcare... seriously. We're what? 40th place or something in healthcare? 3rd world countries have better quality of care than we do here (unless you have millions laying around) What do all the top 10 countries on that list have that we don't? national/social/whatever healthcare. They don't have to worry about going into massive debt and bankruptcy because they had to visit the ER or see some specialist. If you are sick and need care you got it, but if you are in America.got cancer or anything else serious and no health insurance oh boy? fuck you and die.. is pretty much what america seems to think. That is just disgusting. Yet we had a president who tried to give us this great thing and got shot down.

    Romney did it for his state... why can't we all have it if we want it? hmm? I can probably guarantee you if Romney were to win we would never see something like that even come to light.

    The only reason I can see to vote for Romney is if you are Big Business. us wee little folk are just going to be screwed.

    In the meantime we can all watch as our RIGHTS are slowly worn and stripped away..... doesn't matte

  292. UT (Burbs) — 1.5 hour wait at 7:00 AM by aussersterne · · Score: 1

    First time voting in Utah since moving here from NY.

    The poll workers here are all 95 years old and very, very slow. They had 12 machines at my polling place but struggled to keep one of them peopled. Very little diversity—all white, all over 40, mostly Mormon (the discussion up and down the line was jovial, but completely about church, and they all knew each other—brother so-and-so and sister so-and-so and a couple of Mormon bishops were going up and down the line shaking hands and "ministering" to the crowd, I suppose).

    To be expected, I guess.

    I tried to early vote, but when I showed last week at opening time and saw a line stretching out the building and was told it was a four hour wait, I decided to try my luck on election day instead.

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  293. AZ - Voted a couple weeks ago via mail by Tarlus · · Score: 1

    And I gotta say, that is the way to do it. Give yourself time to fully understand the ballot and all of the candidates/propositions involved. Take the time to do the research and know exactly what it is you're about to vote for.

    Also, you don't have to stand in line on election day and have to rack your brains trying to remember what your votes were going to be.

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  294. IL: chicago, 15 minutes by Fubari · · Score: 1

    I forgot this part - 11am, short line. Paper ballot + scanner machine. Worked fine.
    too many Judges though (e.g. why even "vote" if there's only one person seeking the position?)

  295. MI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I voted @ 4:30 PM. There were only 3 people in line ahead of me. I was #428 in a very small township in MI. All went well.

  296. MI - filling out the ballot was ridiculous for me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Michigan, the ballot was VERY long! What made it even worse in my voting precinct was the pens we had to use. The ballot was a paper one (at least they got that right) but the poll workers provided (and insisted that we use them) fine point pens. The pens were the same ones you can get at any store. The ballot was the "fill in the oval completly" type. A felt tip pen would have done the job nicely but it took a lot of time filling in that damn oval using a fine tip pen. (Clueless poll workers!)

  297. Re:OH - Akron - 5 mins by doesnothingwell · · Score: 1

    Moved my polling place for the third time in 25 years. I voted for issue 2 to maybe get gerrymandering under a little less partisan control. Poll workers didn't notice expired drivers license, had backup id for an adjacent precinct.

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  298. Screwed in Idaho by SumterLiving · · Score: 0

    Got my fill in the bubble ballot. The damn lady on the left and old guy on the right wouldn't let me copy. I think I failed. I'll try again around 7pm to see if I can bring up my scores. Oromney should ace this test in Idaho at least.

  299. OR - Did this last week. Yay vote by mail. by xski · · Score: 1

    No lines, just a nice walk to the mailbox. Even took the dog with me, try that at a polling station.

  300. Re:OH - Why always swinging? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Demagogue much? How you got voted +3 I don't know but your sweeping generalizations are so grossly inaccurate that it makes my jaw drop. If you bothered to read the article you linked to you would see that it doesn't match your prejudices and poorly constructed generalizations.

  301. NH - Manchester by Wow8agger · · Score: 1

    Went in with the wife around 10am - took us probably 5 minutes to get our ballots. We use paper ballots, and all the machines were up and working. A pretty painless experience all around.

  302. Re:GO THE FUCK AWAY by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 1

    Now now, respect his opinion even if you do disagree with it.
    I am dutch and I am very interested in what happens, especially since it will influence the rest of the world as well and because it might give Jon Stewart and Colbert some great jokes which I will enjoy very much :)
    Latest poll who people in the Netherlands would vote for this week was over 90% for Obama, that was funny to read as well :)

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  303. Gullible cretins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You aren't 'voting', because YOUR VOTE DOESN'T COUNT, because the whole thing is a fraud. The voting machines are even more useful for fraudsters than the ridiculous paper ballot system.

    There is only ONE method that's fraud proof, and most of you are too stupid to even understand how it works, or read up about it, let alone suggest your country uses it - the Robinson Method of Voting:

    http://www.paul-robinson.us/index.php/2008/10/25/the_robinson_method_a_really_simple_way_?blog=5

    Still, it's only your entire future at stake, why bother? I'm sure there's something interesting on T.V. to watch instead.

  304. IL - Chicago, Rogers Park - No serious issues by Suffering+Bastard · · Score: 1

    Voting at 3pm went quite smoothly. Very little waiting. However, a couple of the older staff helpers seemed to be easily confused. I was handed the wrong ballot sheets and they forgot to write in the ward/precinct numbers. The gentleman after me also was given the wrong sheet. The woman at the table seemed genuinely flustered. Thankfully, by the time I had finished voting there were sharper, more competent people supervising the event.

    Still voting with a pen and not a computer. I dig it.

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  305. GA - no line took 5 minutes max by sjames · · Score: 1

    Got a new registration card months ago (without even asking). Pulled up a sample ballot in advance to mull over the choices. Polling place about 1 mile away.

  306. Voted by Email by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I downloaded (from email), printed, filled-out, scanned, and emailed my ballot to my county election officials.

    I'm active-duty military, located far from my legal residence and precinct.

  307. TX - Lake Jackson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    50 miles South of Houston. Population about 27,000. Voted about 10:00AM. No line. Just walked up and voted. Plenty of stickers available.

  308. Lol by lightknight · · Score: 1

    I was surprised to find the voting process to have taken a practical turn. Paper and pens, to my delight. Would only have been made easier had they provided sharpies instead of ballpoint pens.

    Even so, someone requested another ballot, having filled one not to their liking / the instructions.

    To this end, I found the process favourable. A job well done.

    Now if only in four years we can improve the slate of candidates, we might be onto something.

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  309. What counts is *who* counts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So said our old friend Joe Stalin.

    "You know, comrades," says Stalin, "that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how."

    (source)

    :-P

  310. KS - voted on diebold touchscreen machine by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

    Polling place, a nearby church's reception hall, not crowded, short wait. The 6 election officials, one young kid and 5 elderly people, seemed mostly well trained. The worst were the elderly ladies checking me in. They were hard of hearing and had difficulty locating my name on alphabetized list, even with me pointing it out. The workers directing the voters to machines and showing them how to operate them were competent.

    On the other hand, Diebold machines seem quirky and needlessly difficult to use. The confirmation page required scrolling to see everything, but existence of scrollbar wasn't immediately obvious. It was on the left side of the display, and used non-standard icons and "programmer art" color scheme. Saving the completed ballot to the smart card was very slow, wasn't sure I pushed the "cast vote" -- or whatever its name was -- or not. No indication of status, very subtle change in button appearance when pushed vs. not pushed. About 90 seconds later it ejected the smart card as the poll worker told me it would and gave me the "all done" screen. I guess it worked. Designers badly need to read Norman's "Design of Everyday Things".

    Stopped by a polling place in Missouri, too (not to vote again, on and errand). Also in a church. Lines were long but moved along. Voters voted on paper, unless they wanted to use the one electronic machine at the place. Volunteers from the church had a table out of the way where they gave cookies and coffee to the waiting voters. Things seemed to be running smoothly.

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  311. KY, no wait at all, 200 year old ballot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just voted in Louisville (pop 1.2 million) at 4:30pm, and did not wait at all.

    The only problem is I got a 200 year old ballot, I think. I'm sure it would have been important in 1812 to add a section to the state constitution about hunting and fishing rights, but surely in 2012 no one would be so stupid to think it warranted that level of concern.

    Also, I don't know who I voted for president. Since, thanks to the electoral college, my vote doesn't count at all, I picked one of the 3 non-Dem/Rep parties, but it wasn't the Green Party. It was either Independent or whatever the 5th party was, I can't remember.

  312. IL - Nothing to write home about by wirehead_rick · · Score: 1

    Only one other voter voting. I guess everyone know Obama will win his home state so low turnout.

    All I had to do is sign. They compared my signature with one on file. No ID required.

    Only voted for president and against every govt. program. Most local positions had only one candidate running (WTF?) so they didn't need my vote anyways.

    Yawn. Nothing to report from Ill Annoy . . .

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  313. MD - Diebold HackuVote by im_mac · · Score: 1

    20 minutes in line, where I could see about half of the voting machines screens in use. I couldn't quite tell what people were voting, but if I had better eyesight I probably could have. Maryland is still using the hackable, no paper trail Diebold Accuvote touchscreen machines.

  314. Re:Funny business across the country by Coolhand2120 · · Score: 1

    Republicans have been up to funny business in state legislatures across the country deliberately making it harder for people to vote... ...despite the fact that the only people caught recently were Republicans...

    Citation needed.

    Given you cite a number of articles on aggressively "conservative" web sites, I suspect that you refuse to look outside your tiny world.

    The Google news aggregator is my tiny world?

  315. VA - Smooth sailing by Onuma · · Score: 1

    I'm in a suburban district of Fairfax County, VA. Voted at a local elementary school, where there was practically no line at all - maybe a total of 40 voters between currently selecting and waiting in line to select. Showed official gov't issued picture ID, the volunteers verified my address and full name, etc. No problem whatsoever.

    I did most of my research regarding the Presidential election, so I failed to do my share of homework for local/state issues -- I considered the roughly $150 million within the bonds section and was split somewhere in the middle of that spending. I'm fairly conservative, but I also understand the need to spend money on roadways and infrastructure -- especially in a busy area like DC/MD/VA.

    I also elected to use the paper AccuTron ballot, rather than the digital one. It was just a faster approach, and I felt like I could take more time to read over the options and make a less-impulsive selection.

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  316. 666 comments? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF! Does this mean Mittens has won?

  317. AL - Repealing Jim Crow finally? by niado · · Score: 1

    So, here in AL we have to, yet again, try to repeal some lingering Jim Crow content from our ridiculously long constitution. A similar measure failed in 2004, since people here seem to feel that guaranteeing children an education is significantly worse than making sure they are segregated by race.

  318. CA: Lock on Ballot Box Missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Presidential Election some 40 yearst ago I noticed Ballot Box was not locked and raised some hell till lock was attached.
    Same thing happened today. No lock. No excuse. No awareness of procedures. I got a thumbs up from many waiting to vote.

  319. FL - "No questions asked" absentee ballot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hillsborough County, Florida has a setup where any registered voter in the county can request an absentee ballot, no questions asked (no requirement to be physically absent from county on election day). Ballot received by mail a few weeks before election, completed at leisure, returned by mail last week (return postage pre-paid). Easy! Brilliant! Not all areas of Florida are as backward as the media seems to portray.

  320. America's voting system is a disgrace... by sasha328 · · Score: 1

    There was an article on CNN about the US voting system. http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/05/opinion/frum-election-chaos/index.html

    Pretty sad to be honest. We take voting system for granted here (Australia), it is run pretty smoothly, and even though it is paper ballots still, the results are known within hours unless it is pretty close. I have never heard of vote disputes. Usually recounts when the result is too close but that's about it.

  321. va -wrote in Ron Paul by MickLinux · · Score: 1

    I did vote Ron Paul in the Primaries, too. But to quote Mit before Iowa [and after Nevada four years before], 'the leadership won't permit Ron Paul to win'. Ten states of vote fraud later, I'd say he's right. But as the media likes to point out and the government seems to concur, vote fraud in the primary isn't actionable since the primary is a private issue. Nice coup for stalin.

    Anyhow as a Virginia conservative I did the best I could do: I zeroed my Republican vote.

    AND I ran into the Republican state PartY chairman and told him so.

    Great day voting, if there ever was one.

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  322. Why is it so hard - Aussie Perspective by mathew42 · · Score: 1

    I'm amazed at the voting process in USA.

    Here in Australia, you register to vote when (or even before) you turn 18. Postal votes are available for a couple of weeks prior to the election and most reasonable excuses will work. If you vote on election day you can turn up to any of several polling booths in your electorate. If you are in a different city or state you can submit an absentee vote. Very simple paper based process which is consistent across the entire country.

    Have a read of Votes are in and our plodding way of having a say wins in a landslide which gives an Australian perspective on the US election system. In any other country in the world, I'm convinced the USA system would be roundly criticised.

  323. Voted by nsaspook · · Score: 1

    Oregon: Voted 3 weeks ago by mail. Drank a beer while marking up local issues on the ballot in the man cave.

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  324. NY - small city, went fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am not voting; I have enough time vested in this nightmare generating and posting reports from an offline system via sneakernet. I can't see waiting in line just to tally the remaining votes in a few hours.

  325. OR- 100% vote by mail by inKubus · · Score: 1

    Me too. Had my ballot at my desk at home with my voter booklet will all candidates, measures, statements of support and rejection by both sides and took an hour (while drinking a beer) to read and understand each measure and then vote my desired outcome. Did not blindly vote for a given party, gender, or last name type. Tried to remove incumbents who have been in too long, but kept people who were trying to make a difference but hadn't had time yet ;)

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  326. TX - (Austin) mostly smooth by timothy · · Score: 1

    November in Texas can be delightful, or it can feel like a hot summer day in many places norther. Today was hot -- and I waited close to an hour to vote, most of that outside on some baking concrete, waiting to get inside the polling place. 8 polling machines were set up in the nearby library, in the same room as my neighborhood association meets, in fact. (NOTE: today was merely warm, or perhaps barely warm, by Texas standards. July or August it would be dangerous to stand that long outside without shade.) Someone came around giving out water -- good idea; wish I had a nearby lemonade stand.

    The elderly ladies running one part of the process (the third station below) had some technical trouble; a young guy with hip hair and clothes was helping them -- I assume he was there in official capacity ;)

    Showed voter ID card (no Photo ID requirement in Texas) at one station, got a two-part sticker printed; one part of this sticker, with bar code, was taken at the next station and placed on a sheet of paper along with other voter's stickers (for a logbook of some kind for later scanning, I guess?), and signature goes next to it. At station three, the 2d part of that two-part sticker was taken (not sure it's fate -- that part had my name on it and a few codes I didn't try hard enough to figure out or remember), and in exchange, I got a small printed ticket with a code. There was a pointless verification step in here, in which one part of that ticket is compared (by the voter) with one part of the sticker for which it's being swapped ("Yep, they both say 'R-25.' Does it matter that one has the hyphen and one does not?" Answer: "No. As long as the're the same."). The verification was easy, but since I'm not sure what's being compared, sort of silly. (But Hey, it's voting! Silly makes people feel right at home!)

    The final station of the cross, the machines themselves. I completely forgot to check what brand of machines were being used. They used a jogwheel for selecting choices; to start the process, the code from the small printed ticket was entered, by using the jogwheel to select each digit in turn and then hit a (hardware, not touchscreen) "enter" button. I believe that the controls on the machine were, from left to right:

    Submit ballot / Previous / Next / Enter / [jogwheel]

    There was no paper trail, but there was a confirmation step at the end; it was not especially user friendly, but it does exist, and it doesn't look like I voted for Buchanan. Having one machine both ask you for choices and "verify" them on screen doesn't feel especially rigorous, but Oh well. If there are shenanigans in how votes are transmitted *from that machine,* I'd have no idea. But at least as an interface, I have no real complaints about it except I am not sure how I could have entered a write-in choice for any office. (Since I did not have a write-in demand -- I just chose to leave the unopposed without my specific endorsement -- I didn't pursue it. The instructions mentioned that write-ins could be done via the jogwheel, but I am not sure how it would have been initiated for a particular office / race.)

    I'm not sure how many states have "Straight Ticket" as an option; I do know that Texas has it. This is the first step, actually: You can select (R), (D), or (L) as a straight ticket (possibly (G) as well, but I don't think any others have enough offices covered with a candidate for that to make sense ... (C) might, too, for that matter.) I don't think there should be a straight-ticket option, actually, but it exists and I used it. However, it's not as bad as I used to think; you still must page through the various offices, and you can modify the straight-ticketness of your actual ballot by piecemeal changing the selected vote for any of them you want. (That is, you could select, say, straight-ticket (R) and then go through and change each and every vote to (D), (L), or whatever. But if you do select a straight ticket, your favored party's candidate is pre-selected by default

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  327. CO - Voted Two Weeks Ago By Mail by Greyfox · · Score: 1

    Had to go buy stamps.

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  328. Hooray! by Greyfox · · Score: 1

    That just gives MY vote more weight. This year... I think I'll vote to mess with Texas! Ha ha! Just try to stop me!

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  329. Re:FIRST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OH YEAH AFTER 8 YEARS!!!!

    Six hundred posts (and counting) later, after eight years, I don't think anyone's failed as hard at FP as you just did.

    What a difference less-than-one-minute makes. Condolences, sir, but thanks for the laugh.

  330. SC voter, Belvedere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got to the voting spot (the local library) this morning around 7 something. It was sprinkling slightly and the line was just barely past the overhang in the rain. The line ran a bit slow because the 2 of 6 voting machines (touch screen) were broken already. The demographics surrounding me suggested Romney was going to have a fight on his hands to carry my town. Most other Republican races, not so much. Whoever setup the voting machines kept almost all the Ds off the ballot. There was a "vote republican" button that entered an R for every position and a "vote democrat" button that filled in 2-3 candidates. The poll workers did their best to not be a bottle-neck. From all the D campaign signs I've seen around here, most of those races were NOT Rs running unopposed. Next time I'll be wary enough to bring in a list, so I can write opposition candidates in. Frankly, I didn't expect this sort of nonsense in SC. I thought we voted so consistently R that it wasn't deemed necessary to cheat here. There was no intimidation. Everyone at the voting spot was professional. Whoever was behind the "funny business" was probably not there.

  331. AL - I voted absentee by reboot246 · · Score: 1

    I'm constantly traveling on my job, so I mailed my ballot a couple of weeks ago. I've voted absentee since 1976. Nowadays you have to put a copy of some kind of ID inside when you mail it, but that's no problem.

    We desperately need photo ID in all states. What's the big problem? Your state would probably give you one if you couldn't afford one.

    Other than absentee voting, the only kind of voting I trust is marking your vote on paper that is then scanned by an optical scanner. Fast vote totals and a paper backup copy in case of disputes.

  332. MA: Metrowest by mcmonkey · · Score: 1

    In and out quick, about 4 people in line in front of me for my precinct.

    On the drive over some economist on the radio was estimating the lost wages of voting based on an average wait time of 1 hour.

    My entire voting time, with driving there and back in the evening rush hour, was about 40 minutes.

    Paper ballots, fill in the oval by felt pen.

    1. Re:MA: Metrowest by mcmonkey · · Score: 1

      Oh, and no ID check. Actually, the woman checking me out was my neighborhood. She laughed at me when I said my name, "I know you!" I said I wasn't sure if we needed to follow protocol ;)

  333. Re:Funny business across the country by joocemann · · Score: 1

    Reddit has a wonderful array of articles citing Republican attacks on democracy.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/

  334. voting process seemed fine, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The ballot watcher modded it -1 and now the vote counter can't see it.

  335. Pinckney, MI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Easy voting. The ballot was paper. The wait was about 10-20 seconds. Our voting precinct is a very small city, so didn't expect long lines. My wife and I voted around 3pm. Only thing I noticed is what my mother-in-law (same precinct) kept telling me: all our local offices are held by republicans.

  336. A joke? Could you perhaps find a more biased and by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wingnutty site?

  337. NC - Durham by nothingtodo · · Score: 1

    Went to vote after work at an elementary school's replica of a one room skoolhouse. Line was short although the classroom was crowded. Only 3 people out front handing out leaflets of which I do not know what they were about. Signed in, cast my votes on the paper ballot, and then fed it into the machine. I was number 1026. Easy peasy.

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  338. OH - Vote Denied by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I changed my residency about 7 years ago. Four years ago to be an Ohio resident (I've lived here about 10, but originally it was as a student). Four years ago, I was able to vote a provisional ballet after being denied in the morning and coming back after work with the postcard to prove I had confirmation of registering to vote.

    Three years ago I bought a house and moved. They claimed I never registered to vote in Ohio. Yet, I have postcards from my previous three address showing how I registered to vote at that address, and I had a fourth showing where three years ago when I bought my house I updated my information. All addresses were within Franklin county, yet they insist I have never registered to vote in OH. Thus they denied me a vote. I'm so frustrated its not even funny.

    Just don't tell my four year-old son; I think he will kill me if Romney wins and he finds out I didn't vote for Obama. Every time PBS goes to commercial he starts a rant about Romney.

  339. Palm Beach county, FL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I so love my district! Every time I've gone to vote the past several elections, there are several people inside in the process of voting, and there are 5 - 10 open voting stations; no waiting! I voted this evening after work, paper ballot and scanner, no problems, no issues.

  340. WI by gabrieltss · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Voted about 7pm. I didn't vote for ANY democrats of republicans. Voted for libertarians if available. If only democrat and/or republican as choices I used the "write in" and put in things like "Bozo the clown" "Mr. Ed" etc.. No I didn't wast my vote - I'm one of the 46%!.

    46 percent of Americans want a third party
    http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/12/poll-46-percent-of-americans-want-a-third-party/

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  341. Also OH - easy by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

    I voted around 5:00 PM in my town, which is about 45 minutes from Cleveland. No line whatsoever, even at what is traditionally a peak time. Friends elsewhere in Portage County and Lake County said there were no lines for them in the morning.

    The Diebold touchscreen machine I used appeared to accept my choices properly, and printed correctly. However, when I reviewed my selections before finalizing and printing, it probably took me a tense 30 seconds or so to find the scroll bar on the LEFT side of the review page, and the whole thing was a dense, jumbled mess to read. The glare on the screen also made things unnecessarily difficult. In 2008 I requested and was given a paper ballot, though these were not available this time around. At least these machines print a paper record as a backup (which was VERY hard to read through a little magnifier window and didn't scroll up as far as it looked like it should have), and I hope these are not simply thrown away this time, as they were in some Ohio precincts in 2000. The Diebold machine = piece of over priced crap, but probably worked.

    Gonna be a long night, I'm afraid...

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  342. DE - In and out in 5 minutes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Delaware. Stopped by the polling place, a local middle school, on the way to work. No real line. Just showed them ID, went behind a curtain, punched a few buttons and was on my way.

  343. WA - It cost me money... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...well, the cost of a stamp anyway. Washington is an all mail-in ballot state but it's not postage pre-paid. :( Our state does send out a full voters guide though so you can educate yourself pretty decently if you want to. They send different versions to different regions and despite forgetting a county position in my version, I think they did well covering the issues & candidates.

    The conflated reports of voter fraud and the new ID requirements are just covers for organized disenfranchisement campaigns. If voter fraud truly did occur, it seems to me a mail-in ballot state would be more susceptible than in-person poll stations but I've never heard a peep from the voter fraud evangelists in that regard.

    1. Re:WA - It cost me money... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are boxes stationed around the state that you can drop your ballot off at (without postage), though honestly the stamp will cost you less than the gas to drive there and back...

  344. Re:OH - Why always swinging? by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

    I'm curious...why is OH pretty much always a swing state?!?!

    In general terms, Ohio is sort of a microcosm of the country as a whole. It has sizable urban and rural populations, people depend both on agriculture and manufacturing, it has significant ethnic and racial minorities, and it is historically a hotly-contested state. Couple that with the fact that the polls have been very close and the expectation that voting results for Ohio will come in very late, and you've naturally got a lot of eyes on the Buckeye state.

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  345. Re:OH - Why always swinging? by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

    Don't be ridiculous. You're right about the variety of people who depend on a wide range of industries for their income, but you've missed something: we seem to have plenty of hillbillies in the North, too!

    More seriously, it is about urban/rural more than North/South, as no one in Ohio would say Columbus is part of Northern Ohio, and there are rural counties even in Cleveland's region - Ashtabula, Trumbull, Wayne, Ashland, etc.

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  346. Lost vote? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We voted in Texas a week ago with plastic electronic voting machines, so we do not know if our votes were counted or intentionally mis-counted for Hussein. We would not intentionally vote against US of A, against US Constitution, for Sharia law. for elimination of citizen protections in out Bill of Rights, or any other evil measures, for larger government, but we don't know if our votes were tallied properly or tallied for evil.
    We do know we fear God, we want US of A to continue as protector of all humanity. We do know Hussein will make a third world of us if elected again & the 3 children we support in Ethiopia, Tanzania & India will soon be starving in 5th world countries.
    Obama is evil Muslim, a worshiper of Satan, even if you & he believe the obvious lie.

  347. Is this was the "F - K" line? by brad3378 · · Score: 1

    I can't be the only person who incorrectly read that.

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  348. PA - basic touch screen by WhiteDragon · · Score: 1

    I live in rural PA. I voted about 15 minutes before the polls closed, at 7:45 pm. There was no line, I did have to show ID, because I was a first time voter, and the ballot was on a pretty standard touch screen with smart card. The only unusal thing I noticed was a slight UI delay flipping "pages" of the ballot.

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  349. CA - no waiting, slight confusion by neminem · · Score: 1

    Walked to my polling place (a small National Guard facility), as it was totally walking distance, and I knew its parking lot was nowhere near big enough to support all the cars that were going to be parking there (or trying to). Got in, tried to check in, they said they didn't have any record of it. Apparently that's because they split my polling center's region in half geographically, put half the region in one binder and half in another, put one binder on one table and the other on another table on the other side of the room, and then didn't put up any signs mentioning that, and I picked the wrong table. Go them.

    Apparently they also didn't really split it quite in half, because once I checked in, there was a long line for a ballot desk on that side of the room, and several empty desks on the other one. So I just walked to the other side of the room, filled my ballot, then walked back and turned it in. Not the best organized, but still, I didn't have to wait much.

    They did seem to have some kind of electronic ballot-reader this year, though, that I think was new? You still used a circle-marking pen to fill in circles on ballot paper that you slid into a physical ballot, but when you were done, you fed it into a machine, instead of just dropping it in a box.

  350. election ny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i live in istanbul. i stayed up 24 hours switching from huffington to npr to al qaeda to nbc to ny times to wnyc to bbc to keep up with the count and the boring talking heads, and the most boring were huntington. sent in my ballot a month ago. worked for democrats abroad and americans abroad for obama.

    1. Re:election ny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      voting overseas i can't vote for local elections

  351. MA--Quick and easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Paper ballot, felt pen, one pager. Simple and easy.

  352. TX - No Waiting, but No Meaning by jman.org · · Score: 1

    In Texas, our electronic voting machines do not require a paper trail, so there's no way to verify who really won.

    While Governor and Federal Representative have been pretty much blue up until about 30 years ago, our Federal Senators have often been red.

    This time around the Democratic Senatorial contender lost to a Tea Party candidate (the incumbent Republican retired), taking around 41% of the vote.

    In Travis county, seat of the Texas government and Austin, any registered voter can now go to any polling place. Instead of the usual grade school, I chose the closest polling place, city hall of a small town of 500 surrounded by Austin's south side.

    Walking in, there was no line, though all six booths were occupied. By the time I finished checking in, one booth was available. The entire ballot was around a half-dozen screens.

    Except for the lack of an audit trail, that's how easy voting should be everywhere in this country.

    Oh, not being a member of the Electoral College, I knew my vote for President would not truly matter. So, being pretty sure the state would go red, I felt obliged to enter a write-in for my favorite candidate, "Popular Vote".

  353. Voted! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Though I'm a Veteran, military retired, disabled, Agent Orange plagued, and had to leave my very destructive Havanese (with seperation anxiety) at home, I went to the polls, parked, stood in line for 1.25 hours, voted, and came back home, to find that my little 11 pound doggy knows how to tear open a steel lined door front door...

    Now, i find that nobody whom I wanted to now lead the country, state, county, and my city even got into office, and that the same old horrid scoundrels who know how to "play" the system, bribe the voters, get votes from illegals through empty promises and empty threats, are more empowered than ever!

    Arrrrrrrggggghhhhh!!!

    No wonder the huge headache, as if I got drunk! Sleep, and then, must order another 880 rounds of ammo... I know there will be taxageddon, Zombie nation, or somesuch...

  354. CA decidedly old school by nobaloney · · Score: 1

    Riverside, Calif, went yesterday about 10:15 am.

    got paper ballot and black pen; had to draw lines between two sides of an arrow; one thin line for each vote. The stuck the whole thing into a slot on an old fashined plastic ballot box.

    Almost no one there. No one ahead of me. Only two others came in before I left. This section of Riverside is a College community (UCR); maybe students not from China were voting absentee ballots for their home, maybe high vote-by-mail turnout here, but it seemed like much less people lhere than in prior years.

  355. Re:Voting only works if really unique by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

    easy the person checking ids has a stack of forms with sheets of stickers (these have name and address info) as each person comes in you state your name and then the person finds YOUR sticker slaps that on the form (tosses that on the stack of used/signed forms) then sends you to the table where the person handing out the ballots gives you yours. No Sticker = Not Registered = No Vote

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  356. America - home of the slave, land of the fee. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a farce, two bloodthirsty war mongering "candidates" both SElected by Goldman Sachs & J P Morgan beforehand, both completely insane psychopaths, both morons, both Bilderberg attendees with almost identical policies on economy, foreign policy, central banking and central planning, run through provenly fraudulent electronic voting system. Sheesh. America, you have sunk so low... Maybe Ron Paul was your last chance to grow some.

  357. Does anyone know what just happened? by Wind_Sailor · · Score: 1

    Only in a true democracy or with black box voting can
    the destruction of humanity be put on the ballot and pass by popular vote.
    Prop 37
    52% voter turn-out 46.9% yes - 53.1% no

    http://solari.com/blog/jeffrey-m-smith-on-genetic-roulette/

  358. Electronic Voting Machines = EASY TO RIG ELECTIONS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4aKOhbbK9E

    Not that you would have gotten any difference between Robama and Obomney.

  359. Welcome to mediocrity ,,,,, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which way to the handouts line? Can all those folks in Ohio speak Chinese ?

  360. Re:OH - Why always swinging? by irenaeous · · Score: 1

    This thread is dead I know and I have only now went back to see any replies. I have a couple critics, one which thinks what I said is ridiculous and the other said it was grossly inaccurate to the point of making their jaw drop. First, I want to give them their due. Yes, hillbillies are all over the state. There is an old joke that says that Akron is the capitol of West Virginia. And, it is true that I have over-generalized. The included article was intended to give more information to those who wanted more details.

    However, I would suggest that the county map election results for Ohio have vindicated quite strongly that my generalization -- even if it is a bit too general -- is fundamentally accurate. 15 of the 88 counties in Ohio went for Obama. Of the 15, only four were in central or south Ohio. Three of those are the more urban cities of Columbus, Dayton and Cincinnati -- but only the core cities. The other 11 are all bunched up along the northern border of the state next to Lake Erie.

    You can see the map for yourself here.

  361. SC: No problems. Had to show ID. by jep305 · · Score: 1

    Small town South Carolina. Voted in a Catholic church. Was asked for ID. I am not bothered by needing to show ID to vote, so I did not make a fuss, and don't know what would have happened had I done so. There was no line at all. I went straight in, showed my ID, verbally verified my current address, and was taken to a voting booth. Voting was done electronically on a touch screen. The instructions were clear and easy to follow.

    Straight-party options (which I don't believe should be allowed) and options for individual candidates were offered.

    I was offered an "I Voted" sticker, which I declined.

    Everyone was polite and friendly, but serious. There was no police or military presence at all (which probably won't surprise > 90% of American voters, but might be hard for some to believe.) I never felt even slightly annoyed, pressured, or intimidated by anyone during the process of arriving, entering, voting, or leaving.

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